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Cross era heroes - will we ever see the end of it?

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TheStalker88
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edited March 2018
Now that the game is moving in the right direction with progression, the game will be more enjoyable. Still, with cross era heroes, the game feels like an SW arcade mashup from a mobile app. I'm more or a purist so cross era of any kind is an immersion breaker. Yeah, creating and releasing enough heroes for each era is a problem but will it ever be resolved and will we ever have era specific modes?

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  • Doubt it.
    Unfortunately the unbalance it would create would cause bigger issues. They would have to really change up map designs to counter this. I just don't see that happening.
  • TheStalker88
    6084 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    The game really would have to be 3 times bigger for that to happen. Well if devs readded heroes and maps from battlefront 15, that would help alot, especially content from dlcs. Now with the next season hopefully being from CW era, we will have a couple more maps and heroes to add to CW era. The sequel era could be added on later as era specific as long as the PT and OT are added first. Leave ST as cross era only and let it stay that way for as long as it wants to.
  • No end.

    Maybe selective game modes for it.
    Along with First Person View Only Modes.

    But No, Cross Eras will not be “Removed”.

    I like it personally, gives a larger pool to pull from in fights.

    Yes! If they ever add Anakin, I'd love to see him fight Vader. If done right, the banter between them would be amazing.
  • Devlin21
    8302 posts Member
    Maybe if they add new modes. But other than that, no. They already made the compromise by making out of era heroes cost more BP. They are here to stay, and that's a good thing. You can't restrict peoples choices just because you find it immersion breaking.

    Didn't realize there could be immersion in a video game.
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  • Maybe if they add new modes. But other than that, no. They already made the compromise by making out of era heroes cost more BP. They are here to stay, and that's a good thing. You can't restrict peoples choices just because you find it immersion breaking.

    Didn't realize there could be immersion in a video game.

    This game is 95% percent correct with it's Immersion. It's not an RPG, you can't expect 100%. Got to factor in player choice and gameplay balance.
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    Have a good day peeps! Another Lovely weekend working for me :(

    Same here. Although I enjoy a quiet office on the weekends. Very peaceful.
  • Dash
    11476 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    He would say “You chose the wrong Path”

    Vader would say “You chose Love over Power”

    I’m calling it now.

    Mace Windu
    Obi Wan
    Anakin

    Dooku
    Jango
    Grievous

    Within the next 7-9 months. I’m calling it!

    Young Han, Lando, Chewie Skins , Old Master Luke skin, Droid Legs Maul skin.

    Droidekas and Magna guards reinforcements

    Inner atmosphere SFA maps

    I’m calling it!!! :sunglasses:

    Or maybe I just know :wink:

    Have a good day peeps! Another Lovely weekend working for me :(

    Same here. Although I enjoy a quiet office on the weekends. Very peaceful.

    Mine isn’t quiet though. It’s all Dungeons and Dragons and Saber Fights on breaks. :lol:

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  • gzcnr
    290 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    No end.

    Maybe selective game modes for it.
    Along with First Person View Only Modes.

    But No, Cross Eras will not be “Removed”.

    I like it personally, gives a larger pool to pull from in fights.

    Thats just a s*upid argument. Cross-side heroes will give even more larger pool? And Darth Vader leading Rebels would look less silly than Rey leading clones. Cross era vehicles will give larger pool, too. MTTs invading Hoth is like Finn defendin Hoth..

    Jesus. Cross era hero thing is just s*upid and lazy. It is a thing because there are not enough heroes modelled for each era to maintain balance. I am 30 years old, playing Star Wars games for nearly 20 years, I have never seen such a s*upid thing till EA and mobile games.
    You can't restrict peoples choices just because you find it immersion breaking.

    OMG Yes they can. They already do restrict peoples choices. You cant choose Vader if you are playing Rebels, Resistance or Clones.
  • Dash
    11476 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    gzcnr wrote: »
    No end.

    Maybe selective game modes for it.
    Along with First Person View Only Modes.

    But No, Cross Eras will not be “Removed”.

    I like it personally, gives a larger pool to pull from in fights.

    Thats just a s*upid argument. Cross-side heroes will give even more larger pool? And Darth Vader leading Rebels would look less silly than Rey leading clones. Cross era vehicles will give larger pool, too. MTTs invading Hoth is like Finn defendin Hoth..

    Jesus. Cross era hero thing is just s*upid and lazy. It is a thing because there are not enough heroes modelled for each era to maintain balance. I am 30 years old, playing Star Wars games for nearly 20 years, I have never seen such a s*upid thing till EA and mobile games.

    I wasn’t arguing or making an argument.

    I stated that within this game’s “Realm”, Balance > Lore. That’s all I was saying....

    It’s a game built around “what if’s”, of course it’s not going to be 100% canonical.

    Balance in this game > Lore from movies.
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  • I really really like cross era heroes.

    Worst Thing to happen: Rey and Finn vs Kylo and Phasma.
  • bfloo
    14035 posts Member
    Since we're apparently not going to be seeing rainbow legions I'm a bit more hopeful that they'll remove cross era

    If they sell different clone legion skins we will be :(
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  • Since the swrebels final it could be canon :wink: :wink:. Time travel is a thing now :smiley:
  • Since the swrebels final it could be canon :wink: :wink:. Time travel is a thing now :smiley:

    Yeah, I mean, you can honestly pull Maul from TPM when he was about to get cut in half and transport him to SKB and say can you kill these Rebels?
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  • DWB1873
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    How about the 3 or 4 (*) of you who seem to want this so much and keep mentioning it, form a group and play games together where you decide you can’t pick non-era heroes, leaving the rest of us to just get on with playing the game?

    (*) okay, it’s probably more - maybe 10.
  • Loyaavod
    310 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    Most people like cross era. Multiplayer must be fun with many choices. In call of duty wwtwo you can play with black female german soldier, in uncharted you can have 3 nathan drakes per match etc. If you don't like cross era heroes or weapons in multiplayer you can always play arcade.
  • Since we're apparently not going to be seeing rainbow legions I'm a bit more hopeful that they'll remove cross era

    It's good to know at least a bit of immersion will still remain.
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  • TheStalker88
    6084 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    Yeah having era specific modes and heroes will not be easy and most likely won't happen. Devs also have to create new content for seasons and we all know how long and painful it is for them to get them done. Its nice to wish and dream though
  • No end.

    Maybe selective game modes for it.
    Along with First Person View Only Modes.

    But No, Cross Eras will not be “Removed”.

    I like it personally, gives a larger pool to pull from in fights.

    Yes! If they ever add Anakin, I'd love to see him fight Vader. If done right, the banter between them would be amazing.

    The dialogue could be as though the good in Anakin is fighting to regain control over the evil of Vader inside his mind. Anakin bringing up all the evil he's done, like with Padme and the Jedi Temple and Vader pointing out all of his failures, like his mother and the Tusken Raiders.
  • Alex64
    5620 posts Member
    Every skin will be able to use on every map.
  • Yeah why not?
  • Enjoy using only yoda and chewie to fight maul, palps, and bossk.

    Or only kylo ren and phasma to fight 6/8 of the heroes.

    Easy to fix. Max numbers of heroes avaliable in Galactic Assault should be 2, not 4 as now in the last phase.
  • DarthCapa2 wrote: »
    Honestly the cross era heroes is the biggest thing that I dislike in this game. And I can't understand how a star wars fan can accept or enjoy this, especially in Galactic Assault. Cross era heroes should be a thing in heroes vs villains or other modes, but not in the main modes like Galactic Assault. Just a bad decision from the beginning.

    Yeah for me it's a big immersion breaker especially the ST heroes. Rey is very OP and Kylo is well just Vader on crack.
  • t3hBar0n
    5000 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    With the change to how heroes are leveled up, it is even less likely they will be use restricted going forward. Telling a player they cant use their one or 2 favorite heroes they invested time leveling up and developing skill with because it is the wrong era map would be a PR mess.
  • Ah cross era. That's a name I haven't heard since, oh before the game was born ;) now with the new skins, I expect things to get much wilder. Got chased all around mos eisley last night, with Luke clearly about to have a heat stroke in hoth gear. Can't wait for slave Leia on starkiller base
  • It's a game, meant to put us in scenarios we couldn't have in the movies. The droids winning on Naboo, Yoda encountering Vader, Maul returning to fight for the empire. Having non standardized Trooper and Hero customizations. Reflecting the movies wasn't really the objective, and would just make for a boring game to be frank.

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  • t3hBar0n
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    It's a game, meant to put us in scenarios we couldn't have in the movies. The droids winning on Naboo, Yoda encountering Vader, Maul returning to fight for the empire. Having non standardized Trooper and Hero customizations. Reflecting the movies wasn't really the objective, and would just make for a boring game to be frank.

    Exactly. I love Luke's Hoth skin on Tatooine and Jakku... he needs the goggles to keep sand out of his eyes!
  • Cad_Bane
    6252 posts Member
    No end.

    Maybe selective game modes for it.
    Along with First Person View Only Modes.

    But No, Cross Eras will not be “Removed”.

    I like it personally, gives a larger pool to pull from in fights.

    Yes! If they ever add Anakin, I'd love to see him fight Vader. If done right, the banter between them would be amazing.

    Agreed.
  • I don't care about it in ga because I don't enjoy the mode but I won't stand for it in conquest.
  • OP, I hope you get a mode that addresses this issue for you but the majority of modes should all cross-era. That's my opinion and hope.
  • TheStalker88
    6084 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    This game is more a machine now than man, twisted by cross era content...
  • 1. I’m pretty sure DICE said cross era will go away once enough heroes are added.
    2. It’s more fun. Don’t let immersion be the only factor in what affects this game. This is Battlefront, not an RPG.
  • Lonnisity
    1941 posts Member
    Enjoy using only yoda and chewie to fight maul, palps, and bossk.

    Or only kylo ren and phasma to fight 6/8 of the heroes.

    This. Enjoy the ruined balance
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  • Danxoln
    2473 posts Member
    Dennis has said multiple times that cross era will end once they have enough heroes for each era
  • Devlin21
    8302 posts Member
    There will never be enough heroes for st villians.
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  • t3hBar0n wrote: »
    Techkiddz wrote: »
    1. I’m pretty sure DICE said cross era will go away once enough heroes are added.
    2. It’s more fun. Don’t let immersion be the only factor in what affects this game. This is Battlefront, not an RPG.

    I have never seen this stated by DICE.

    Pretty sure it was said during Beta.
  • t3hBar0n
    5000 posts Member
    Danxoln wrote: »
    Dennis has said multiple times that cross era will end once they have enough heroes for each era

    Source please.
  • Techkiddz
    649 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    Not trying to sound salty or anything, but I just have to say it.

    I noticed people are liking Stalker’s incorrect statement over facts. If you’re going to let opinion favor over the truth then you’re another problem, just saying. Unless you’re a kid, then...shoo.
    Kids know nothing.
  • t3hBar0n
    5000 posts Member
    Techkiddz wrote: »
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    Techkiddz wrote: »
    1. I’m pretty sure DICE said cross era will go away once enough heroes are added.
    2. It’s more fun. Don’t let immersion be the only factor in what affects this game. This is Battlefront, not an RPG.

    I have never seen this stated by DICE.

    Pretty sure it was said during Beta.

    If I remeber correctly the statement was basically that the reason cross era was implemented initially was because of the imbalance of heroes... you cannot use this statement to logically infer that "once we have a balance of heroes cross era will be reverted" unless that was explicitly stated.
  • TheStalker88
    6084 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    Dennis did say something like this but when and where and how explicitly? We need exact proof.
  • t3hBar0n wrote: »
    Techkiddz wrote: »
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    Techkiddz wrote: »
    1. I’m pretty sure DICE said cross era will go away once enough heroes are added.
    2. It’s more fun. Don’t let immersion be the only factor in what affects this game. This is Battlefront, not an RPG.

    I have never seen this stated by DICE.

    Pretty sure it was said during Beta.

    If I remeber correctly the statement was basically that the reason cross era was implemented initially was because of the imbalance of heroes... you cannot use this statement to logically infer that "once we have a balance of heroes cross era will be reverted" unless that was explicitly stated.

    Do you understand what they meant by that? Hell yeah there’d be an imbalance, there was only 1 sequel villain/hero at launch! Also I’m sticking with my previous statements.
  • Dennis did say something like this but when and where and how explicitly? We need exact proof.

    I can’t remember when exactly but you can look up Battlefront Updates videos around beta time, he covered a lot at that time.
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