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Seems like he is the hardest model for them to create and animate, do you think he's ready to go yet?
I assume Obi Wan is, If they are both ready then I would prefer them to just release them in a patch instead of waiting for more clone wars maps.

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  • I'm sure by now their both done.
  • BrushedBrass2
    540 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    I just have a bad feeing that he isn't done yet, the whole "skeletal frame" thing... I know they did droids but their animations and models aren't anything near as complicated as the General.
  • I just have a bad feeing that he isn't done yet, the whole "skeletal frame" thing... I know they did droids but their animations and models aren't anything near as complicated as the General.

    But they datamined his model in the game early on and it looked pretty dang good to me just needed polished up. And that was 3 months ago.
  • Ahsoka_Tano
    7341 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    He will come with the utapau map.

    Actually, I am sure it will be Coruscant. Space map + several ground maps.
    For General Ahsoka Tano!
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  • Dennis and team have been using grievous since November. We haven't proven ourselves worthy
  • BrushedBrass2
    540 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    I just have a bad feeing that he isn't done yet, the whole "skeletal frame" thing... I know they did droids but their animations and models aren't anything near as complicated as the General.
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    I know dude, I'm completely naive about all this but I assume making the model is one thing but making that kind of thing look convincing with movements and animations is something else. I guess I'm just overly pessimistic, I've been hurt too much :smiley:
  • EvazanJr wrote: »
    Well they aren’t releasing in “seasons” so they wouldn’t have anything against releasing them separately.

    Yes, people keep banging on about "Season 2" as if EA/DICE had actually said anything about there being seasons, which as far as I can see anywhere, they never have. My impression at launch and subsequently was that they would just gradually emit small updates and additions over time, rather than in big chunks - and indeed that has been the case so far.
  • mastery0ta wrote: »
    Dennis and team have been using grievous since November. We haven't proven ourselves worthy

    "We're working on him. It will take some time"
    *Forces himself to not laugh.

    He knows something we don't general. I see it in his eyes
  • mastery0ta wrote: »
    Dennis and team have been using grievous since November. We haven't proven ourselves worthy

    "We're working on him. It will take some time"
    *Forces himself to not laugh.

    Dennis said this? If so, when did he say this?
  • Devlin21
    8323 posts Member
    He will come with the utapau map.

    Actually, I am sure it will be Coruscant. Space map + several ground maps.

    So far 4 maps we know about.


    Heres the source, it got deleted, but theres more info in the comments.
    And heroes

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  • Devastator21823 if those are the upcoming heroes then I will be VERY pleased as I also wanted Count Dooku, Krennic and Jango!
  • Anoh wrote: »
    I just have a bad feeing that he isn't done yet, the whole "skeletal frame" thing... I know they did droids but their animations and models aren't anything near as complicated as the General.
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    Perfection. And this was digged up mooonths back. He and Kenobi are defo ready to commence the attack.

    It's beautiful! *face melts off like in raiders*
  • I heard someone say that they were somehow able to use the same model used for the CGI version in ROTS, no idea if that is true?
  • mastery0ta wrote: »
    Dennis and team have been using grievous since November. We haven't proven ourselves worthy

    "We're working on him. It will take some time"
    *Forces himself to not laugh.

    Dennis said this? If so, when did he say this?

    I'm being sarcastic :wink:
    We need a Tier System for the Heroes. It would justify the "op-ness" of Vader over Han and Chewbacca. It would cost much more to unlock Vader, and would require you to save a lot more than for other heroes and vehicles, but it would be rewarding in the end...

    "It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
  • Anoh
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    I heard someone say that they were somehow able to use the same model used for the CGI version in ROTS, no idea if that is true?

    I think they built him from scratch, the clones and droids too. They were able to import most of the OT stuff though
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  • YODA100
    1067 posts Member
    Anoh wrote: »
    I just have a bad feeing that he isn't done yet, the whole "skeletal frame" thing... I know they did droids but their animations and models aren't anything near as complicated as the General.
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    Perfection. And this was digged up mooonths back. He and Kenobi are defo ready to commence the attack.

    They only have his head done. 2 more months until everything is fully complete on Grevious. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
  • None of us know ANYTHING about future Heroes and you're already being pessimistic....just because that's what you do with everything??
  • Kavian
    319 posts Member
    EvazanJr wrote: »
    Well they aren’t releasing in “seasons” so they wouldn’t have anything against releasing them separately.

    Yes, people keep banging on about "Season 2" as if EA/DICE had actually said anything about there being seasons, which as far as I can see anywhere, they never have. My impression at launch and subsequently was that they would just gradually emit small updates and additions over time, rather than in big chunks - and indeed that has been the case so far.

    they explicitly have tho...
  • Kavian
    319 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    None of us know ANYTHING about future Heroes and you're already being pessimistic....just because that's what you do with everything??

    Maybe if we look at the time it took them to literally put the existing jump troopers in a capture the flag game mode with lower rocket cooldowns we can perhaps establish that they take unnecessary amounts of time to implement small and simple modes/patches, so we might assume something as immensely complex as grievous won't be coming out too soon.
  • Dash
    11567 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    The only hard part to develop/correctly code and add to the game would be "Fatal Fan" the Light saber spin he uses for Offensive Damage/Defensive Deflection. That would be the only speed bump. Well including his "Scorpion-Crawl" dash movement, where he gets on all fours and shuffles quickly momentarily.

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  • Dash
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    edited March 2018
    Keep in mind guys, Yoda in Alpha was able to jump off acrobatically interacting with his nearest direct environment. Walls/anything he was next to.

    But that was abandoned due to being too hard to get right and glitchy.

    Think of this, Yoda in Attack of the Clones vs Dooku, that kind of acrobatic. If it can’t be done, it won’t be put in. They will try though. Guaranteed.

    The devs revisit everything when they have time for improvements/upgrades. As for Grievous I have no doubt he will be delivered in a Phenomenal way.
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  • Shinjuku
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    edited March 2018
    Seems like he is the hardest model for them to create and animate, do you think he's ready to go yet?
    I assume Obi Wan is, If they are both ready then I would prefer them to just release them in a patch instead of waiting for more clone wars maps.

    I think they're probably still contouring his face and flat ironing his wig, I don't think they're done with his eyebrows yet though cus y'know it's gotta be on fleek n shid. he's probably wondering if his @$$ still looks fat in that cape of his for the grand entrance
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  • BrushedBrass2
    540 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    Keep in mind guys, Yoda in Alpha was able to jump off acrobatically interacting with his nearest direct environment. Walls/anything he was next to.

    But that was abandoned due to being too hard to get right and glitchy.



    Oh that would have been amazing!!
  • Dash
    11567 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    Keep in mind guys, Yoda in Alpha was able to jump off acrobatically interacting with his nearest direct environment. Walls/anything he was next to.

    But that was abandoned due to being too hard to get right and glitchy.



    Oh that would have been amazing!!

    It would be if working right. Picture this though, instead of fluid acrobatics, he’d rag doll into the environment and get stuck like some heroes do between tight spaces and glitch out being stuck lol.

    Some day maybe. One can dream for Attack of the Clones Yoda acrobatics. :(
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  • Keep in mind guys, Yoda in Alpha was able to jump off acrobatically interacting with his nearest direct environment. Walls/anything he was next to.

    But that was abandoned due to being too hard to get right and glitchy.



    Oh that would have been amazing!!

    It would be if working right. Picture this though, instead of fluid acrobatics, he’d rag doll into the environment and get stuck like some heroes do between tight spaces and glitch out being stuck lol.

    Some day maybe. One can dream for Attack if the Clones Yoda acrobatics. :(

    Lol good call to drop it then.
  • Dash
    11567 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    Keep in mind guys, Yoda in Alpha was able to jump off acrobatically interacting with his nearest direct environment. Walls/anything he was next to.

    But that was abandoned due to being too hard to get right and glitchy.



    Oh that would have been amazing!!

    It would be if working right. Picture this though, instead of fluid acrobatics, he’d rag doll into the environment and get stuck like some heroes do between tight spaces and glitch out being stuck lol.

    Some day maybe. One can dream for Attack if the Clones Yoda acrobatics. :(

    Lol good call to drop it then.

    Yeah most definitely the right call.

    That’s why sometimes when people make a thread saying “I want this Hero to do this (insert ability or action), I’ll hop in and say “Can’t be done or can be done and why”.

    I’m 100% about Game Balance and features for improvement, but not at the cost of functionality.

    Which is why most the testers from Alpha Especially Understand those statements. It’s not about “Oh don’t be a party pooper”, it’s about some of us Knowing it wouldn’t turn out right from experiencing similar things via testing.

    For example, in Open Beta, when all the pre-order guys joined in, NO ONE had a Clue how much improvement was made from Alpha to that Stage in Closed Beta all the way to Open Beta. Leaps and Bounds dude.

    And in Alpha it was the Wild West. Everything crazy and weird and not working 100%. But hey, the game kept improving each phase/wave.

    Did you know that originally the Rocket Trooper was second to NONE Reinforcements wise?

    Or that the Specialist was Beyond Assault Class utility wise?

    How bout Darth Maul, he has been Perfection since Creation. A testament to his creators. Kudos to those dudes. They know who they are.

    My point is, if something’s not there, there’s 2 reasons:

    Couldn’t be done because it never worked right and caused More harm than good.

    Or there was simply too much already there and adding the move/ability/feature made no sense and caused imbalance.

    Truth dude, truth.

    Sorry for the long reply lol.
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  • It is reassuring to know how much care they put into and that they have good ideas, even if they can't be implemented.
  • Dash
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    edited March 2018
    It is reassuring to know how much care they put into and that they have good ideas, even if they can't be implemented.

    Dice/Devs Always care about what they create. And Passionately so.

    Remember when you built your first gaming Rig? That feeling you had knowing YOU created something?

    Imagine how devs feel creating an entire world with creatures from NOTHING.

    It’s like having a child and your proud of it and love it.
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  • Would be interesting if a clone wars season is already in the vault and they're working on SOLO..release that first for summer play and then clone wars for Fall. I'm down with Grievous, but gotta do Obi Wan too.
    Let's all remember that Luke's hand didn't clank to the stone when he vanished....Everything organic disappears as a force ghost. The in-organic stays...


  • Dash
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    edited March 2018
    I’ll use Mace.

    If a hail marry pass goes in for a touchdown, then one day I can play with my Real fav Jedi, Plo Kloon.

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  • Seems like he is the hardest model for them to create and animate, do you think he's ready to go yet?
    I assume Obi Wan is, If they are both ready then I would prefer them to just release them in a patch instead of waiting for more clone wars maps.

    ILM described creating he skeleton model and the animations of general Grevious as the biggest challenge they had ever faced so it's by no means easy, but I'm sure they have a working model. Whether he's fully done being animated and having all the kinks and bugs worked out is likely the big question left.

    There's a reason GG didn't move at all in the old BFs like he moved in RotS, and even with all the advances in technology Im sure they're going to need to sacrifice a certain level of accuracy for practicality if he's ever to make it into the game.
  • Devlin21
    8323 posts Member
    I’ll use Mace.

    If a hail marry pass goes in for a touchdown, then one day I can play with my Real fav Jedi, Plo Kloon.

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    Look him up, Dudes a Beast with abilities and saber combat.

    I'll be expecting plo koon now.

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  • Dash
    11567 posts Member
    I’ll use Mace.

    If a hail marry pass goes in for a touchdown, then one day I can play with my Real fav Jedi, Plo Kloon.

    aasb2sotjc67.jpeg
    Look him up, Dudes a Beast with abilities and saber combat.

    I'll be expecting plo koon now.

    He’s got the smallest chance to be honest lol. Lore wise he’s important. Movie wise he was punked the way he was killed off :(.
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  • Kavian wrote: »
    EvazanJr wrote: »
    Well they aren’t releasing in “seasons” so they wouldn’t have anything against releasing them separately.

    Yes, people keep banging on about "Season 2" as if EA/DICE had actually said anything about there being seasons, which as far as I can see anywhere, they never have. My impression at launch and subsequently was that they would just gradually emit small updates and additions over time, rather than in big chunks - and indeed that has been the case so far.

    they explicitly have tho...

    Where? Source, please?
  • I’ll use Mace.

    If a hail marry pass goes in for a touchdown, then one day I can play with my Real fav Jedi, Plo Kloon.

    aasb2sotjc67.jpeg
    Look him up, Dudes a Beast with abilities and saber combat.

    I'll be expecting plo koon now.

    He’s got the smallest chance to be honest lol. Lore wise he’s important. Movie wise he was punked the way he was killed off :(.

    If they go with clone wars content he could very likely be included, as he's one of the most used Jedi in the show short of the three main characters, two of which we'd likely get before they dipped into the show as they are also the main characters from the films.

    Master Plo is awesome, he can even survive in the vacuum of space, which according to many fans is impossible in the StarWars universe :tongue:

    And to be fair, no Jedi killed during order 66 that we saw on film put up a fight, except that one kid who got killed outside of the temple in front of Bail.
  • Dash
    11567 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    I’ll use Mace.

    If a hail marry pass goes in for a touchdown, then one day I can play with my Real fav Jedi, Plo Kloon.

    aasb2sotjc67.jpeg
    Look him up, Dudes a Beast with abilities and saber combat.

    I'll be expecting plo koon now.

    He’s got the smallest chance to be honest lol. Lore wise he’s important. Movie wise he was punked the way he was killed off :(.

    If they go with clone wars content he could very likely be included, as he's one of the most used Jedi in the show short of the three main characters, two of which we'd likely get before they dipped into the show as they are also the main characters from the films.

    Master Plo is awesome, he can even survive in the vacuum of space, which according to many fans is impossible in the StarWars universe :tongue:

    And to be fair, no Jedi killed during order 66 that we saw on film put up a fight, except that one kid who got killed outside of the temple in front of Bail.

    @Octavious_Wrex , I’ll say this, if you guys make an uproar about Plo Kloon, THAT would be the “Hail marry pass” I was referring to in my previous comments. :wink: I’d jump right on board and support it.

    But it would have to be Loud & Powerful.

    I’m talking Post after Post, Page after Page, on a weekly basis “Kind of Loud”.

    If anyone besides you and me understands what he’s about, what he can do, and what he can bring to this game, then I don’t doubt we could cause a ruckus in Plo’s Honor. :blush:

    People truly underestimate the power of the forums/their power on the forums when it comes to the devs who read it.

    And this goes for any requests really. Just ask. Tag them and ask.

    Off to bed peeps. Night!
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  • Kavian wrote: »
    EvazanJr wrote: »
    Well they aren’t releasing in “seasons” so they wouldn’t have anything against releasing them separately.

    Yes, people keep banging on about "Season 2" as if EA/DICE had actually said anything about there being seasons, which as far as I can see anywhere, they never have. My impression at launch and subsequently was that they would just gradually emit small updates and additions over time, rather than in big chunks - and indeed that has been the case so far.

    they explicitly have tho...

    Where? Source, please?

    Still waiting...
  • DrX2345
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    @Voter_Colonel I can't remember exactly what it was you wanted a source for, but it was something about Seasons right? It's been confirmed by Dennis on Twitter and I think Reddit that while they will try to get a decent stream of content out to us with at least one drop every month, these are not 'Seasons', they're simply content updates. Seasons will be only for movie releases and the biggest content drops. For example, I imagine in April we'll probably get a little in-game content, like a map or two, or even Obi-Wan and Grievous (unlikely IMO) as well as customisation. That might be a little optimistic, idk. But a Solo season is all but guaranteed, given the nature of Disney, they'll probably demand that they make some Solo content and have an event around it, then they'll be more able to listen to the wishes of the community and do what they want to, not what Disney wants them to do. I think now that progression is out we should get more content more regularly, at least, Dennis has said he wants it to be that way.
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  • I just have a bad feeing that he isn't done yet, the whole "skeletal frame" thing... I know they did droids but their animations and models aren't anything near as complicated as the General.

    I think people overplay how difficult it is
  • Devlin21
    8323 posts Member
    Grievous IS 100% coming, just to clarify. They said they are working on him.

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    Yes they are.
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