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Do you think that Infinity war will beat The force awakens?

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  • Raylol
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    Psybernaut wrote: »
    I enjoy a good Marvel movie but I don't consider myself a fan, herein lies the problem with Infinity War. It feels like if I haven't seen all the films that lead up to it then I won't really know what's going on and I suspect many other movie goers feel the same.
    I haven't seen Civil War (because Captain America is meh), Doctor Strange (because I'm lazy) and Homecoming (because Spiderman films are bad) and I have no idea who Thanos is. The 'road to Infinity War' film lists and hype lead me to believe that it would be pointless for me to see it unless I've seen all the others and I suspect many other non-fans will feel the same way.
    I'm sure it'll do fine but I don't think it'll blow everything out of the water like some people think.

    Civil war it's more an Avengers movie than a Captain america's.
  • DarthJ
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    Raylol wrote: »
    Psybernaut wrote: »
    I enjoy a good Marvel movie but I don't consider myself a fan, herein lies the problem with Infinity War. It feels like if I haven't seen all the films that lead up to it then I won't really know what's going on and I suspect many other movie goers feel the same.
    I haven't seen Civil War (because Captain America is meh), Doctor Strange (because I'm lazy) and Homecoming (because Spiderman films are bad) and I have no idea who Thanos is. The 'road to Infinity War' film lists and hype lead me to believe that it would be pointless for me to see it unless I've seen all the others and I suspect many other non-fans will feel the same way.
    I'm sure it'll do fine but I don't think it'll blow everything out of the water like some people think.

    Civil war it's more an Avengers movie than a Captain america's.

    Yes, plus Cap's trilogy has been the strongest for me of the Marvel movies so far, generally speaking. Other than Guardians.
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  • rollind24
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    I’m putting money down in canto bight that it does pass TFA. Just based on pre ticket sales and the amount of hype I personally see the kids have for this over Star Wars. It’s not taking anything away from Star Wars if it does but this movie is going to be huge, you can forget what previous marvel movies did. I may be wrong that’s why I’m only betting one quarter portion.

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  • Don't even bother with Civil War. Easily one of the worst MCU films.
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  • Raylol
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    edited April 2018
    rollind24 wrote: »
    I’m putting money down in canto **** that it does pass TFA. Just based on pre ticket sales and the amount of hype I personally see the kids have for this over Star Wars. It’s not taking anything away from Star Wars if it does but this movie is going to be huge, you can forget what previous marvel movies did. I may be wrong that’s why I’m only betting one quarter portion.

    https://movieweb.com/avengers-infinity-war-box-office-tracking-biggest-all-time/

    I'm a Star wars fanboy, but really fanboy I literally say to my friends that it won't even come close to TFA but inside of me I know it will :/ (surpass)
  • TheScape
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    Psybernaut wrote: »
    I enjoy a good Marvel movie but I don't consider myself a fan, herein lies the problem with Infinity War. It feels like if I haven't seen all the films that lead up to it then I won't really know what's going on and I suspect many other movie goers feel the same.
    I haven't seen Civil War (because Captain America is meh), Doctor Strange (because I'm lazy) and Homecoming (because Spiderman films are bad) and I have no idea who Thanos is. The 'road to Infinity War' film lists and hype lead me to believe that it would be pointless for me to see it unless I've seen all the others and I suspect many other non-fans will feel the same way.
    I'm sure it'll do fine but I don't think it'll blow everything out of the water like some people think.

    Actually, from these 3 films you haven't seen there is no mention of Thanos. Civil War is related due to the effect it is actually an Avengers movie, Doctor Strange has one of the infinity stones in it and Spiderman is pretty much standalone in terms of the overarching Thanos plot (and it is one of the best Spiderman movies in my opinion). The movies that laid most of the "available" Thanos backstory are Avengers 1 (the invasion is caused by him), Guardians of the Galaxy (where he is more or less central to the plot) and Avengers 2 (where you see Thor's visions). The rest of the movies basically have character development and some of them introduce the remaining stones. Thor: Ragnarok is also related since it kind of continues the plot about Thor's visions.

    From the trailers, it feels like Marvel will try to recap all the necessary info while reintroducing Thanos and explaining his real purpose. The main draw for non fans should be seeing how all the heros come together. So, it should still be enjoyable if you are not a fan.
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  • Yeah .it will crush the force awakens..usa sales will be close, but overseas sales, where starwars not as popular, will be significantly higher for Avengers
  • Batman20
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    I say maybe theres a lot of marvel fans and a lot of hype for this film that it will make a ton of money. Plus this film is much bigger than any other avengers film with all the heroes and the fact that it's been built up for 10years. And every other avengers film made well over a billion and this will defiantly make more than the previous 2.
  • Relikk
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    With every new Marvel movie I become less and less interested in them. The quality dips with each new movie and I'm bored with them at this stage. Definitely won't be watching Infinity War in the cinema.
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  • I expect Infinity War to make 1.6 Billion to 2.1 Billion at the Box Office.
  • Raylol
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    The force awakens won on opening.
  • rollind24
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    edited April 2018
    Raylol wrote: »
    Tough to say. Are there more comic fans than SW fans? That is debatable. I'm finding that box office gross means less and less these days. A movie can make hundreds of millions and still be a terrible film. Most blockbusters are built around the waiting and anticipation (an established fan base certainly helps), which is why TFA's success was so astronomical. As I understand it, this Infinity movie has been a long awaited film by comic fans, so maybe it has a chance?

    It's not about the comics fans, literally in the schools, at least here in Mexico everyones talks about it, literally more than the half of my facebook posts are of Infinity war.

    My stepdaughters and there friends were hyped for this movie. Marvels built something that surpasses “comic book fans”
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  • Raylol wrote: »
    Lord_Oz wrote: »
    No. No comic book movie has yet to eclipse $700 million domestic, nor $1 billion overseas. TFA is the 3rd highest grossing film of all time worldwide because it had been a decade since a Star Wars movie was released and we had the return of the OT Big 3. Infinity War may not even break the first Avenger's "comic book movie" record of $1.5 billion worldwide.

    I kinda think you're understimating Avengers.

    I somewhere read that Infinity war pre-tickets sold more than the las 7 Marvels films together.

    Also the trailers views are huge.

    Plus the plot seems really amazing and probably people will go see it more than once, I'm a huge star wars fans, even more than marvel, but TFA wasn't 'epic' it was nice

    So trailer veiws means what? My wife showed me the trailer that doesn't mean we will see it.
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  • The Last Jedi, yes; The Force Awakens, no.
  • Dash
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  • Raylol
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    The Last Jedi, yes; The Force Awakens, no.

    It seems it has potential even to destroy titanic, but we don't know, time will tell.
  • It beat The Force Awakens’ opening box office record, it deserves to beat the overall box office of TFA as well.
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  • Beat how?

    Quality wise, that's very subjective.

    Revenue wise, I think that's mostly due to hype and fandom reception, which barely translates to quality in my opinion.
  • Meh I might stream it. **** Disney
  • danilojbg wrote: »
    Beat how?

    Quality wise, that's very subjective.

    Revenue wise, I think that's mostly due to hype and fandom reception, which barely translates to quality in my opinion.

    Pretty sure he means sales. And hype/fandom reception is the biggest factor in regards to TFA being the third highest grossing movie ever, so I think that applies to both films. It’s already beat TFA in first weekend sales so we’ll see if it can keep up the pace long enough to win out against IW.
  • Great movie, totally beat TFA and the other one both in revenue and dare I say actual enjoyability :wink:

    Just shows if you have a vision ( nope not him) and stick by it and have the courage to do something slightly different as in starting with iron man 2008, a super hero not widely known by non comic readers, then you can reap the rewards both financially and from the paying public who it seems from my readings, talkings and youtbubings, have enjoyed the marvel ride to get to this point 10 years later.

    Yes The last Jedi made a ton of money ( who would of thunk it eh) and the critics loved it too for some strange reason ( insert free premiers and access :wink: ) but its definitely A split decision on whether it’s a good, fun movie or even a good SW movie... It’s not btw :smiley: :wink:

    Get rid of Kennedy and her social political agenders and get someone with far reaching vision on what to do with Star Wars. Christ there’s a million interesting stories they could do that doesn’t involved the main story lines or characters and they can even do what marvel does and take elements from the expanded universe stories and make them there own.

    Anyway, rambling.

    Use the Marvel magic and sprinkle it on the Star Wars universe. All I want is to enjoy my Star Wars movies. Doesn’t have to be heavy or have the Marvel humour that can get tiresome, but I haven’t seen a Marvel movie yet that I haven’t enjoyed, with some coming out of left field that I enjoyed more than I thought such as Guardians my current number 1 and Ant man.

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  • Blazur
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    Infinity War was downright amazing. If it does end up beating TFA then it deserves it.
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  • The real question is, who cares how much money it makes? Unless you work for the studio or on the movie in some way, why do people care? Anyway Disney is happy either way.

    There are tons of amazing movies that make less money in theaters than horrible “blockbuster” hits
  • Blazur wrote: »
    Infinity War was downright amazing. If it does end up beating TFA then it deserves it.

    It’s showed DC how you can make a movie darkish with humour and give an ensemble cast good screen time and to actually care about them.

    That said, they did great with Christian Bale, and Christopher Reeve will always be Superman, so not sure what’s gone wrong.
  • rollind24
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    edited April 2018
    Blazur wrote: »
    Infinity War was downright amazing. If it does end up beating TFA then it deserves it.

    It’s showed DC how you can make a movie darkish with humour and give an ensemble cast good screen time and to actually care about them.

    That said, they did great with Christian Bale, and Christopher Reeve will always be Superman, so not sure what’s gone wrong.

    Seems it was to rushed what they were doing to catch up wih MCU, only one solo film before bringing 3 together in BvS and then Justice League. Zack Snyder’s style didn’t quite catch on with general audiences either. They should have gone with someone else after BvS. Aqua man coming out in November.

    I didn’t think Justice League was that bad and might be the 2nd best of the current DC movies behind Wonder Woman. Unfortunately they kept screwing up before that with BvS and Suicide Squad and no one cared about it.
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  • OGPOTUS wrote: »
    danilojbg wrote: »
    Beat how?

    Quality wise, that's very subjective.

    Revenue wise, I think that's mostly due to hype and fandom reception, which barely translates to quality in my opinion.

    Pretty sure he means sales. And hype/fandom reception is the biggest factor in regards to TFA being the third highest grossing movie ever, so I think that applies to both films. It’s already beat TFA in first weekend sales so we’ll see if it can keep up the pace long enough to win out against IW.

    I agree with you.

    My point is that, ultimately, which movie performs best in terms of revenue may end up being irrelevant outside the business side of the thing.

    Of course, I'd get concerned if some lame formula has commercial success, for the sake of future material. But outside of that, we end up liking what we like (as obvious as it sounds) and not what others like.

    To be honest, I can understand the concern for that competition among people running those business, but I never got why fandom would care about such thing. That's not a sport, where one has to lose for the other to win. Let us enjoy both.
  • danilojbg wrote: »
    OGPOTUS wrote: »
    danilojbg wrote: »
    Beat how?

    Quality wise, that's very subjective.

    Revenue wise, I think that's mostly due to hype and fandom reception, which barely translates to quality in my opinion.

    Pretty sure he means sales. And hype/fandom reception is the biggest factor in regards to TFA being the third highest grossing movie ever, so I think that applies to both films. It’s already beat TFA in first weekend sales so we’ll see if it can keep up the pace long enough to win out against IW.

    I agree with you.

    My point is that, ultimately, which movie performs best in terms of revenue may end up being irrelevant outside the business side of the thing.

    Of course, I'd get concerned if some lame formula has commercial success, for the sake of future material. But outside of that, we end up liking what we like (as obvious as it sounds) and not what others like.

    To be honest, I can understand the concern for that competition among people running those business, but I never got why fandom would care about such thing. That's not a sport, where one has to lose for the other to win. Let us enjoy both.

    Well if you like and care about the continued success of a franchise, dwindling sales is usually a bad sign for the future. If it’s making money you can rest assured you will keep getting more of it. I think that’s why fans care about it.
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  • The real question is, who cares how much money it makes? Unless you work for the studio or on the movie in some way, why do people care? Anyway Disney is happy either way.

    There are tons of amazing movies that make less money in theaters than horrible “blockbuster” hits

    I agree to an extent as A Night at the Roxburys was an amazing cinema experience that made nothing :wink: , however I care that marvel movies make money, otherwise they will stop making them or stop taking a chance on super hero movies with people the non comic public have never heard of such as Guardians or Panther.

    I want my Silver Surfer, Galactus and X-MEN vs Star Trek movie and we won’t get them if people don’t spend moolah to see these blockbusters ( would also give up one of my nuts for Dredd vs Death or the cursed earth but wrong forum :smiley: )
  • Dash
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    The real question is, who cares how much money it makes? Unless you work for the studio or on the movie in some way, why do people care? Anyway Disney is happy either way.

    There are tons of amazing movies that make less money in theaters than horrible “blockbuster” hits

    I agree to an extent as A Night at the Roxburys was an amazing cinema experience that made nothing :wink: , however I care that marvel movies make money, otherwise they will stop making them or stop taking a chance on super hero movies with people the non comic public have never heard of such as Guardians or Panther.

    I want my Silver Surfer, Galactus and X-MEN vs Star Trek movie and we won’t get them if people don’t spend moolah to see these blockbusters ( would also give up one of my nuts for Dredd vs Death or the cursed earth but wrong forum :smiley: )

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  • rollind24 wrote: »
    danilojbg wrote: »
    OGPOTUS wrote: »
    danilojbg wrote: »
    Beat how?

    Quality wise, that's very subjective.

    Revenue wise, I think that's mostly due to hype and fandom reception, which barely translates to quality in my opinion.

    Pretty sure he means sales. And hype/fandom reception is the biggest factor in regards to TFA being the third highest grossing movie ever, so I think that applies to both films. It’s already beat TFA in first weekend sales so we’ll see if it can keep up the pace long enough to win out against IW.

    I agree with you.

    My point is that, ultimately, which movie performs best in terms of revenue may end up being irrelevant outside the business side of the thing.

    Of course, I'd get concerned if some lame formula has commercial success, for the sake of future material. But outside of that, we end up liking what we like (as obvious as it sounds) and not what others like.

    To be honest, I can understand the concern for that competition among people running those business, but I never got why fandom would care about such thing. That's not a sport, where one has to lose for the other to win. Let us enjoy both.

    Well if you like and care about the continued success of a franchise, dwindling sales is usually a bad sign for the future. If it’s making money you can rest assured you will keep getting more of it. I think that’s why fans care about it.

    That's makes sense. But I don't think TFA being overcome by other movie would change the perception that it was very succesful at the time. A movie doesn't have to necessarily win a sales competition to be succesful. After a certain sales threshold (which may vary from movie to movie) everyone wins.
  • rollind24 wrote: »
    Blazur wrote: »
    Infinity War was downright amazing. If it does end up beating TFA then it deserves it.

    It’s showed DC how you can make a movie darkish with humour and give an ensemble cast good screen time and to actually care about them.

    That said, they did great with Christian Bale, and Christopher Reeve will always be Superman, so not sure what’s gone wrong.

    Seems it was to rushed what they were doing to catch up wih MCU, only one solo film before bringing 3 together in BvS and then Justice League. Zack Snyder’s style didn’t quite catch on with general audiences either. They should have gone with someone else after BvS. Aqua man coming out in November.

    I didn’t think Justice League was that bad and might be the 2nd best of the current DC movies behind Wonder Woman. Unfortunately they kept screwing up before that with BvS and Suicide Squad and no one cared about it.

    Yep, you can safely say Zack has helped to make the DC universe movies a laughing stock.

    Aquaman, up there with the Solo movie no one was asking for :smiley: :wink:

    Loved 300 though.
  • danilojbg wrote: »
    rollind24 wrote: »
    danilojbg wrote: »
    OGPOTUS wrote: »
    danilojbg wrote: »
    Beat how?

    Quality wise, that's very subjective.

    Revenue wise, I think that's mostly due to hype and fandom reception, which barely translates to quality in my opinion.

    Pretty sure he means sales. And hype/fandom reception is the biggest factor in regards to TFA being the third highest grossing movie ever, so I think that applies to both films. It’s already beat TFA in first weekend sales so we’ll see if it can keep up the pace long enough to win out against IW.

    I agree with you.

    My point is that, ultimately, which movie performs best in terms of revenue may end up being irrelevant outside the business side of the thing.

    Of course, I'd get concerned if some lame formula has commercial success, for the sake of future material. But outside of that, we end up liking what we like (as obvious as it sounds) and not what others like.

    To be honest, I can understand the concern for that competition among people running those business, but I never got why fandom would care about such thing. That's not a sport, where one has to lose for the other to win. Let us enjoy both.

    Well if you like and care about the continued success of a franchise, dwindling sales is usually a bad sign for the future. If it’s making money you can rest assured you will keep getting more of it. I think that’s why fans care about it.

    That's makes sense. But I don't think TFA being overcome by other movie would change the perception that it was very succesful at the time. A movie doesn't have to necessarily win a sales competition to be succesful. After a certain sales threshold (which may vary from movie to movie) everyone wins.

    Oh no doubt, I love both franchises. TFA is still a force to be reckoned with regardless if Infinity Wars makes more and Infinity War is still a great movie if it doesn’t pass it. Still pretty amazing if Infinity War does pass it, Marvels building a behemoth franchise quickly.
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  • The real question is, who cares how much money it makes? Unless you work for the studio or on the movie in some way, why do people care? Anyway Disney is happy either way.

    There are tons of amazing movies that make less money in theaters than horrible “blockbuster” hits

    I agree to an extent as A Night at the Roxburys was an amazing cinema experience that made nothing :wink: , however I care that marvel movies make money, otherwise they will stop making them or stop taking a chance on super hero movies with people the non comic public have never heard of such as Guardians or Panther.

    I want my Silver Surfer, Galactus and X-MEN vs Star Trek movie and we won’t get them if people don’t spend moolah to see these blockbusters ( would also give up one of my nuts for Dredd vs Death or the cursed earth but wrong forum :smiley: )

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    Hey wow this thread doesn't belong here lol

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  • JMaster
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    I actually really hope Infinity War beats Titanic and Avatar, if only to knock down James Cameron's massive ego : )
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  • How is Infinity War? Did they glaze it over for casuals or is it full on detailed and legit?
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  • rollind24
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    univurshul wrote: »
    How is Infinity War? Did they glaze it over for casuals or is it full on detailed and legit?

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  • Trooper8059
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    edited April 2018
    univurshul wrote: »
    How is Infinity War? Did they glaze it over for casuals or is it full on detailed and legit?

    I'd say it fits a fine line between. People who have never read the comics or never seen a majority of the films will almost certainly be lost.
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  • RENEGADEPETIE
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    edited April 2018
    It already is , Infinity War is now the highest grossing opening weekend film both domestically ( U S ) and Worldwide , I saw the numbers today . $250 Million in the U S and $630 Million World Wide.... its well on the way to crushing all records

    EDIT : I will definitely go see this movie, I waited for both new Star Wars movies to come to On Demand because of mixed reviews. All the reviews I've seen for Infinity War were good.... I dont do movies to much cause I cant stand being around crowds of people
  • Infinity war gonna crush force awakens..Star Wars not popular in China, like elsewhere, that is why Force Awakens not catch a few of the other high grossing films..i think infinity wars beats, globally, force awakens by 20 to 25 %.
  • univurshul wrote: »
    How is Infinity War? Did they glaze it over for casuals or is it full on detailed and legit?

    I'd say it fits a fine line between. People who have never read the comics or never seen a majority of the films will almost certainly be lost.

    TBH, if you’ve just decided out of the blue that you want to watch a marvel movie and this is it, then you definitely are not going to have a scoobie as to what’s going on. It’s technically Avengers 3 so seeing 1 and 2 should really be a given even though Guardians and Thor are technically needed too.

    I thing most people going to see this already have invested some time in the marvel universe and even though there’s plenty of recapping in it sometimes in different movies, you will be lost if you haven’t seen or read what’s going on.

    Don’t go see Harry Potter deathly hollows without seeing the other 6 (7)? Cannot remember. “This return of the Jedi lark, whose this Duke”.

    Still with all that said, I have to explain a few things to the family, give context, talk about the comics but ultimately explain the endings which I alway have to do especially the end credits scenes. That’s not a good thing in this and most marvel movies.

    Why do people still walk out at the end :smiley:
  • Batman20
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    Well it beat its opening and has a good chance of beating tfa overall as there's enough marvel fans to make it happen
  • bfloo
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    univurshul wrote: »
    How is Infinity War? Did they glaze it over for casuals or is it full on detailed and legit?

    I'd say it fits a fine line between. People who have never read the comics or never seen a majority of the films will almost certainly be lost.

    I'm not into comics, and missed a bunch of movies and didn't know who a bunch of them were.

    I didn't really get into it and wasn't impressed with Thanos and his minions.

    There were good battle scenes towards the end, but I'd mostly lost interest by the time they got to them.

    I think people more into MCU will enjoy it, casual fans not so much.
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