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Luke Skywalker STILL NOT BUFFED!!!

I really don't like going on an angry rant here, but I'm so disappointed that Luke Skywalker still hasn't gotten any changes in the latest patch! The notes pretty much say how his ability descriptions were fixed and that's it. I tried him out in a match on GA and his abilities still feel absolutely worthless! None of Luke's abilities match those of other lightsaber heroes like Rey, Yoda, Darth Vader, Darth Maul, & Kylo Ren. I'll even take a fragile Han Solo over Luke right now because I don't feel like I'm able to contribute enough with him. It took a few months for Iden to get some changes that made her much better than before, so why isn't the same applying for Luke's abilities right now. Seriously! Luke is in a dire need of a buff for his abilities. Right now none of his abilities can destroy a specialist besides the rush. That is incredibly weak! Fix Luke now!

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  • TMF
    149 posts Member
    Honestly, Luke feels clunky and I just don't understand this. I know he is supposed to be hit and run but he is so clunky that it's hard to even do that. He needs to deal more damage with his rush and needs to keep momentum with the rush (the last saber swing at the end ruins it). It would be nice if they were to minorly buff force push damage. The repulse is absolutely unacceptable though. Repulse is useless in a sense, it had bad detection, such a slow animation, and it deals little damage. At least if DICE were to address these issues it would be nice.
    -TMFgun3r
  • If DICE really wants Luke to be a hit and run hero, I'm really not seeing it. So inferior from the last game as his abilities were strong in Battlefront (2015) with the exception of the heavy strike.
    TMF wrote: »
    Honestly, Luke feels clunky and I just don't understand this. I know he is supposed to be hit and run but he is so clunky that it's hard to even do that. He needs to deal more damage with his rush and needs to keep momentum with the rush (the last saber swing at the end ruins it). It would be nice if they were to minorly buff force push damage. The repulse is absolutely unacceptable though. Repulse is useless in a sense, it had bad detection, such a slow animation, and it deals little damage. At least if DICE were to address these issues it would be nice.

  • ryanjk
    471 posts Member
    They aren't fixing crap, and yoda will forever have gimpy jump and crap mechanics as well
  • ryanjk wrote: »
    They aren't fixing ****, and yoda will forever have gimpy jump and **** mechanics as well

    That ability to cancel status effects is nice though
  • Clone201
    3489 posts Member
    He runs faster than maul and regens faster than maul, but that's the only advantage he has.

    Luke wasn't buffed in the way we want him to be buffed. His health wasn't the issue, it was the lack of good damage output. How could the hero designer possibly missed this?
    Man! Could this game get any more broken?
  • Devlin21
    8293 posts Member
    Clone201 wrote: »
    He runs faster than maul and regens faster than maul, but that's the only advantage he has.

    Luke wasn't buffed in the way we want him to be buffed. His health wasn't the issue, it was the lack of good damage output. How could the hero designer possibly missed this?

    He also got -50 on regen.
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  • TMF
    149 posts Member
    What they did to Luke or lack thereof is honestly sad.
    -TMFgun3r
  • AbyssWatch3r
    4382 posts Member
    edited April 2018
    Clone201 wrote: »
    He runs faster than maul and regens faster than maul, but that's the only advantage he has.

    Luke wasn't buffed in the way we want him to be buffed. His health wasn't the issue, it was the lack of good damage output. How could the hero designer possibly missed this?

    The dudes clueless, his twitter followers are telling him Boba's finally in a good state, and he even agree's? What? I just want to know if he even plays the game he balances. Or just looks at a data sheet all day.
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  • They need to drop the whole hit and run concept for Luke, it just doesn't work. He should be more of a damage dealer like Rey, but more focused on force power damage, compared to Rey who is focused on saber damage. Yoda meanwhile should be turned into the hit and run hero since he can't block sabers, give him increased movement speed, increased jump height, increased dodge distance, increased timing window for taking no damage when dodging, increased health regen, and a shorter health regen delay.
  • I agree, in my mind Luke should be the best strongest hero on the light side. He needs some buffing. I didn't get to play the first Battlefront, so not sure how he played. Im not a big fan of repulse, wouldn't mind seeing it replaced with a light side version of Furious Resilience, I think that would help him. That or some sort of toughen up like ability.
  • Devlin21
    8293 posts Member
    Clone201 wrote: »
    He runs faster than maul and regens faster than maul, but that's the only advantage he has.

    Luke wasn't buffed in the way we want him to be buffed. His health wasn't the issue, it was the lack of good damage output. How could the hero designer possibly missed this?

    The dues clueless, his twitter followers are telling him Boba's finally in a good state, and he even agree's? What? I just want to know if he even plays the game he balances. Or just looks at a data sheet all day.
    Clone201 wrote: »
    He runs faster than maul and regens faster than maul, but that's the only advantage he has.

    Luke wasn't buffed in the way we want him to be buffed. His health wasn't the issue, it was the lack of good damage output. How could the hero designer possibly missed this?

    The dues clueless, his twitter followers are telling him Boba's finally in a good state, and he even agree's? What? I just want to know if he even plays the game he balances. Or just looks at a data sheet all day.
    Clone201 wrote: »
    He runs faster than maul and regens faster than maul, but that's the only advantage he has.

    Luke wasn't buffed in the way we want him to be buffed. His health wasn't the issue, it was the lack of good damage output. How could the hero designer possibly missed this?

    The dues clueless, his twitter followers are telling him Boba's finally in a good state, and he even agree's? What? I just want to know if he even plays the game he balances. Or just looks at a data sheet all day.

    He said that idens stun was working as intended when it was broken.
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  • Khronikos
    136 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    Honestly, after playing Luke more, he is actually really helpful to teams with all of his stuns. I am not sure how much he should be buffed at this point. He sword is very decent, his star cards are fine, and overall I feel like people are kind of exaggerating about how bad he is now. The new star card fixes have definitely evened out the field a bit.

    I know some are unhappy with Luke, but right now he can be extremely conducive to winning on certain maps with the Light Side. If you have him knocking over people into Chewie's assault and Rey's sword mixed with maybe Han you can really start running through people fast.

    I think matchmaking needs to improve so people realize Luke is not useless as is. He is actually fairly powerful and fast. It would be sad to see him turn into another boring tank like some people here want. Tanks are scrub bait.

    Also, no one can take anyone seriously that says Repulse is worthless. Paired with its damage card, it is absolutely necessary to knock people around so your teammates can assault them.

    This is why I do not trust random forum talk. After the last update it is very apparent good Hero teams can win games quite easily if they work together.

    I'm not sure how anyone could come to the conclusion that Repulse is worthless. It's literally one of the best moves in the game IMHO.

    Now his charge is meh. They could work on that a bit I guess, but I haven't tried it much. It doesn't make as much sense with his character IMO.
  • Devlin21
    8293 posts Member
    Khronikos wrote: »
    Honestly, after playing Luke more, he is actually really helpful to teams with all of his stuns. I am not sure how much he should be buffed at this point. He sword is very decent, his star cards are fine, and overall I feel like people are kind of exaggerating about how bad he is now. The new star card fixes have definitely evened out the field a bit.

    I know some are unhappy with Luke, but right now he can be extremely conducive to winning on certain maps with the Light Side. If you have him knocking over people into Chewie's assault and Rey's sword mixed with maybe Han you can really start running through people fast.

    I think matchmaking needs to improve so people realize Luke is not useless as is. He is actually fairly powerful and fast. It would be sad to see him turn into another boring tank like some people here want. Tanks are scrub bait.

    Also, no one can take anyone seriously that says Repulse is worthless. Paired with its damage card, it is absolutely necessary to knock people around so your teammates can assault them.

    This is why I do not trust random forum talk. After the last update it is very apparent good Hero teams can win games quite easily if they work together.

    I'm not sure how anyone could come to the conclusion that Repulse is worthless. It's literally one of the best moves in the game IMHO.

    Now his charge is meh. They could work on that a bit I guess, but I haven't tried it much. It doesn't make as much sense with his character IMO.

    Try him in ga or against vader and you wont be saying the same thing.
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  • Clone201
    3489 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    We're looking at the fact that every other force user hero in this game performs better than Skywalker, whether it'd be damage, ability damage, or overall reliability (or whatever).

    Even Yoda's two abilities do more damage than Luke's three abilities combined + he has a health buff. Objectively better than Luke in at least Galactic Assault.

    Rey is objectively better no matter what with her unblockable damage, insane stun, and wall hack ability.

    Darth Maul is faster, his Spin Attack auto-deflects bullets in front of him (in which Luke doesn't atm), and all three of his abilities do more damage than Luke Skywalker combined. Also combined with his faster swing speed and ranged abilities make him powerful.

    Although Kylo Ren doesn't have a heal card suited for GA, he even does better than Skywalker in HvVs with the right abilities and teamwork aspect with those abilities. Being frozen for 5 seconds and targeted by his Frenzy as a blaster hero are much more dangerous than simply being displaced by Luke's abilities.

    And you know about Darth Vader. He's stronger, does more damage with lightsaber + abilities, slightly more health, and has much higher overall damage resistance which is easy to use and is not that much time-limited compared to Luke's Rush Immunity.

    All of these of what I mentioned, is why Luke needs a MAJOR buff. Those who think he's near perfect I assume hadn't compared him to others. He needs to be in the middle-ground of the others. Right now, that's nowhere near the case. People can still play Luke Skywalker well, yes, but that doesn't mean he doesn't need a buff and that he is in fact weaker than almost everyone else (if not, everyone else).
    Man! Could this game get any more broken?
  • AbyssWatch3r
    4382 posts Member
    Khronikos wrote: »
    Honestly, after playing Luke more, he is actually really helpful to teams with all of his stuns. I am not sure how much he should be buffed at this point. He sword is very decent, his star cards are fine, and overall I feel like people are kind of exaggerating about how bad he is now. The new star card fixes have definitely evened out the field a bit.

    I know some are unhappy with Luke, but right now he can be extremely conducive to winning on certain maps with the Light Side. If you have him knocking over people into Chewie's assault and Rey's sword mixed with maybe Han you can really start running through people fast.

    I think matchmaking needs to improve so people realize Luke is not useless as is. He is actually fairly powerful and fast. It would be sad to see him turn into another boring tank like some people here want. Tanks are scrub bait.

    Also, no one can take anyone seriously that says Repulse is worthless. Paired with its damage card, it is absolutely necessary to knock people around so your teammates can assault them.

    This is why I do not trust random forum talk. After the last update it is very apparent good Hero teams can win games quite easily if they work together.

    I'm not sure how anyone could come to the conclusion that Repulse is worthless. It's literally one of the best moves in the game IMHO.

    Now his charge is meh. They could work on that a bit I guess, but I haven't tried it much. It doesn't make as much sense with his character IMO.

    The force is not strong with the one. You are dead wrong my friend. Something tells me you wouldn't last one minute with luke on the front lines.
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  • Luke is not unusable, however, he is not all powerful right now. I’m sorry, but if you compare him to Rey and Yoda, he feels absolutely inferior with his weaker abilities.
    Khronikos wrote: »
    Honestly, after playing Luke more, he is actually really helpful to teams with all of his stuns. I am not sure how much he should be buffed at this point. He sword is very decent, his star cards are fine, and overall I feel like people are kind of exaggerating about how bad he is now. The new star card fixes have definitely evened out the field a bit.

    I know some are unhappy with Luke, but right now he can be extremely conducive to winning on certain maps with the Light Side. If you have him knocking over people into Chewie's assault and Rey's sword mixed with maybe Han you can really start running through people fast.

    I think matchmaking needs to improve so people realize Luke is not useless as is. He is actually fairly powerful and fast. It would be sad to see him turn into another boring tank like some people here want. Tanks are scrub bait.

    Also, no one can take anyone seriously that says Repulse is worthless. Paired with its damage card, it is absolutely necessary to knock people around so your teammates can assault them.

    This is why I do not trust random forum talk. After the last update it is very apparent good Hero teams can win games quite easily if they work together.

    I'm not sure how anyone could come to the conclusion that Repulse is worthless. It's literally one of the best moves in the game IMHO.

    Now his charge is meh. They could work on that a bit I guess, but I haven't tried it much. It doesn't make as much sense with his character IMO.

  • Khronikos
    136 posts Member
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.
  • Batman20
    1336 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    I think hes actually great in HvV I've had tons of success with him in that mode. When all his abilities work as they should he's pretty effective there. It's just GA in my eyes where he is a lot weaker. So yeah a buff would be nice
  • Clone201
    3489 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    He needs to be viable in Galactic Assault from our eyes more so. I can see that he does mildly well in HvV, and that's not bad at all, but it's also not too good either because of what I mentioned before of Luke's minuscule damage alone compared to anyone else of his current nature.

    And plus, all he needs is a Force Repulse damage buff, better Saber Rush reliability, and back to at least 250 max regen health, to make him near-perfect, officially balanced hero.
    Man! Could this game get any more broken?
  • Devlin21
    8293 posts Member
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    Nerf rey, vader and palpatine again, i uninstall this game.
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  • JediJulius
    281 posts Member
    Luke feels fun to use at times, but he really needs adjustments to smoothness and damage output.

    Core mechanics: Base Saber damage increased to 110 per hit (I think it was at 100 last I saw). This makes it at least average among saber users.
    - Saber attack speed increased by 2.5% (he is on the slightly slower end).

    Saber Dash: Increase damage to 110 in line with normal attack.
    - Slightly increase animation speed (~5%).
    - Increase momentum retained by the end of the attack (think more like Maul, though maybe not quite as much).

    Force Push: Allow it to be used anywhere in Luke's jump arc (right now he can only use it going up).

    Repulse: Increase base damage to 100.
    - Increase base radius by 1 meter.
    - Increase animation speed by 10%.
    - Improve hit consistency.

    These would make Luke have better damage and flow to a lot of his abilities. Repulse would still be a little weird, but it'd probably feel a little more usable with the speed and effectiveness buffs.
  • AbyssWatch3r
    4382 posts Member
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    What the... dude, have you gone off of the deep end here. We're not even mentioning HvV here. This is strictly GA we're talking about, and the fact of the matter is: He sucks big time. Han solo is honestly more effective sitting in the back and pop shotting. Luke the kind of Hero other Infantry have no problem rushing down with a shot gun. He can't fight at all more than one trooper at a time without taking massive damage. His in-game description is false advertising, he's supposed to be Hit and run and agile enough to escape un scathed in most situations. Not possible against troopers with guns, maybe against a slow vader.


    He needs massive buffs big time. I hope this isn't lost on you, but something tells me you probably suck as him as well in GA. Highest kill streak ever was probably 15 kills. Sorry, but thats worthless.
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  • thorzhammers
    239 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    I guess, bottom line... besides force push, I don't care for Luke's abilities overall. I agree with many others here that Rush is clunky, just not very effective. And Repulse, while yes it can cause some damage... it's also a bit clunky and flat out awkward looking and moreover it's something we've never seen Luke do in any movies. I Know it's not going to be changed, but, does anyone remember KOTORs lightsaber force jump attack, where the character could leap a football field away and unleash a serious light saber attack on the way down. At least we've actually seen Luke do bigtime flips in the movies. That would have went along nicely with Dices concept of Luke being a hit and run artist.
    I'm sure we're not going to see abilities change, that would be a lot of programming.

    In all reality, the easiest buff would be increasing Lukes max health and saber damage , this would balance him with the other lightsaber heroes.
  • Khronikos
    136 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    What the... dude, have you gone off of the deep end here. We're not even mentioning HvV here. This is strictly GA we're talking about, and the fact of the matter is: He sucks big time. Han solo is honestly more effective sitting in the back and pop shotting. Luke the kind of Hero other Infantry have no problem rushing down with a shot gun. He can't fight at all more than one trooper at a time without taking massive damage. His in-game description is false advertising, he's supposed to be Hit and run and agile enough to escape un scathed in most situations. Not possible against troopers with guns, maybe against a slow vader.


    He needs massive buffs big time. I hope this isn't lost on you, but something tells me you probably suck as him as well in GA. Highest kill streak ever was probably 15 kills. Sorry, but thats worthless.

    I don't play as him in GA since the mode does not suit his abilities. People really should not be going on regular kill streaks of 20+ as that means something is probably broken or the matchmaking is bad. You can rip up HvV as Luke at times though. It just depends on your team. And his abilities are great for crowd control to escape. Hardly any hero or villain gets 15+ kill streaks but the broken ones in EVEN matches lol. Against good players you never last that long.

    And no he does not need major buffs. Stop crying. As if this fanbase will stop crying. It's like dealing with a bunch of children when it comes to everything.

    Guyz I want Luke buffed until I get a 90 kill streak! Only then will it be fair. OKAY SON.
  • Devlin21
    8293 posts Member
    Khronikos wrote: »
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    What the... dude, have you gone off of the deep end here. We're not even mentioning HvV here. This is strictly GA we're talking about, and the fact of the matter is: He sucks big time. Han solo is honestly more effective sitting in the back and pop shotting. Luke the kind of Hero other Infantry have no problem rushing down with a shot gun. He can't fight at all more than one trooper at a time without taking massive damage. His in-game description is false advertising, he's supposed to be Hit and run and agile enough to escape un scathed in most situations. Not possible against troopers with guns, maybe against a slow vader.


    He needs massive buffs big time. I hope this isn't lost on you, but something tells me you probably suck as him as well in GA. Highest kill streak ever was probably 15 kills. Sorry, but thats worthless.

    I don't play as him in GA since the mode does not suit his abilities. People really should not be going on regular kill streaks of 20+ as that means something is probably broken or the matchmaking is bad. You can rip up HvV as Luke at times though. It just depends on your team. And his abilities are great for crowd control to escape. Hardly any hero or villain gets 15+ kill streaks but the broken ones in EVEN matches lol. Against good players you never last that long.

    And no he does not need major buffs. Stop crying. As if this fanbase will stop crying. It's like dealing with a bunch of children when it comes to everything.

    Guyz I want Luke buffed until I get a 90 kill streak! Only then will it be fair. OKAY SON.

    Lol.
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  • JediJulius
    281 posts Member
    Khronikos wrote: »
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    What the... dude, have you gone off of the deep end here. We're not even mentioning HvV here. This is strictly GA we're talking about, and the fact of the matter is: He sucks big time. Han solo is honestly more effective sitting in the back and pop shotting. Luke the kind of Hero other Infantry have no problem rushing down with a shot gun. He can't fight at all more than one trooper at a time without taking massive damage. His in-game description is false advertising, he's supposed to be Hit and run and agile enough to escape un scathed in most situations. Not possible against troopers with guns, maybe against a slow vader.


    He needs massive buffs big time. I hope this isn't lost on you, but something tells me you probably suck as him as well in GA. Highest kill streak ever was probably 15 kills. Sorry, but thats worthless.

    I don't play as him in GA since the mode does not suit his abilities. People really should not be going on regular kill streaks of 20+ as that means something is probably broken or the matchmaking is bad. You can rip up HvV as Luke at times though. It just depends on your team. And his abilities are great for crowd control to escape. Hardly any hero or villain gets 15+ kill streaks but the broken ones in EVEN matches lol. Against good players you never last that long.

    And no he does not need major buffs. Stop crying. As if this fanbase will stop crying. It's like dealing with a bunch of children when it comes to everything.

    Guyz I want Luke buffed until I get a 90 kill streak! Only then will it be fair. OKAY SON.

    Luke might not need huge buffs, but Repulse still hits like a wet noodle and is sometimes inconsistent, his Dash could use a slight boost to its smoothness, and his lightsaber strikes are among, if not the weakest in the game at 100 damage. When Maul's Saber Throw was broken, with 2 abilities he was still often more effective at his job than Luke with all 3. And I'm not interesting in escaping, I'm interesting in fighting as a Hero. Luke, a close range hero, has 2 abilities that push foes out of range, but no strong ranged throw or self stamina/health buff or block breaking ability. Yeah I can still do ok as Luke in HvV, but against competant Dark Side players who actually understand how to block Luke fares poorly and has no self-buffs to help him survive, only blockable pushes and a pretty stiff dash. Rey gets better Saber damage, TWO abilities that ignore blocking, wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina, and all for only having very slightly less speed than Luke (though her saber strikes are also slightly faster as well).
  • EpicTrev
    97 posts Member
    Khronikos wrote: »
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    What the... dude, have you gone off of the deep end here. We're not even mentioning HvV here. This is strictly GA we're talking about, and the fact of the matter is: He sucks big time. Han solo is honestly more effective sitting in the back and pop shotting. Luke the kind of Hero other Infantry have no problem rushing down with a shot gun. He can't fight at all more than one trooper at a time without taking massive damage. His in-game description is false advertising, he's supposed to be Hit and run and agile enough to escape un scathed in most situations. Not possible against troopers with guns, maybe against a slow vader.


    He needs massive buffs big time. I hope this isn't lost on you, but something tells me you probably suck as him as well in GA. Highest kill streak ever was probably 15 kills. Sorry, but thats worthless.

    I don't play as him in GA since the mode does not suit his abilities. People really should not be going on regular kill streaks of 20+ as that means something is probably broken or the matchmaking is bad. You can rip up HvV as Luke at times though. It just depends on your team. And his abilities are great for crowd control to escape. Hardly any hero or villain gets 15+ kill streaks but the broken ones in EVEN matches lol. Against good players you never last that long.

    And no he does not need major buffs. Stop crying. As if this fanbase will stop crying. It's like dealing with a bunch of children when it comes to everything.

    Guyz I want Luke buffed until I get a 90 kill streak! Only then will it be fair. OKAY SON.

    I can get 20+ streaks pretty normally against average and good teams with all most heroes. Only ones that I have difficulty with are Luke, Boba Fett, and Kylo. Especially, Luke. How can you say he doesn't need a major buff? His description now of being an agile hit and run hero is laughable. If this was the 2015 SWBF Luke there would be no buff threads excluding that terrible heavy strike.
  • Clone201
    3489 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    Khronikos wrote: »
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    What the... dude, have you gone off of the deep end here. We're not even mentioning HvV here. This is strictly GA we're talking about, and the fact of the matter is: He sucks big time. Han solo is honestly more effective sitting in the back and pop shotting. Luke the kind of Hero other Infantry have no problem rushing down with a shot gun. He can't fight at all more than one trooper at a time without taking massive damage. His in-game description is false advertising, he's supposed to be Hit and run and agile enough to escape un scathed in most situations. Not possible against troopers with guns, maybe against a slow vader.


    He needs massive buffs big time. I hope this isn't lost on you, but something tells me you probably suck as him as well in GA. Highest kill streak ever was probably 15 kills. Sorry, but thats worthless.

    I don't play as him in GA since the mode does not suit his abilities. People really should not be going on regular kill streaks of 20+ as that means something is probably broken or the matchmaking is bad. You can rip up HvV as Luke at times though. It just depends on your team. And his abilities are great for crowd control to escape. Hardly any hero or villain gets 15+ kill streaks but the broken ones in EVEN matches lol. Against good players you never last that long.

    And no he does not need major buffs. Stop crying. As if this fanbase will stop crying. It's like dealing with a bunch of children when it comes to everything.

    Guyz I want Luke buffed until I get a 90 kill streak! Only then will it be fair. OKAY SON.

    Ok, so you like Luke still being objectively worse than everyone else, when he is the GREATEST JEDI OF ALL TIME in the Star Wars franchise, as mentioned multiple times by @Landeaux2? Not to say hat he is supposed to do best than anyone else, it's a video game after all.

    Alright...

    Maybe ''major'' wasn't the right word to use, or the word that should of supported the fact that Luke needs a buff, but I assure that he needs a buff. There are many users on here, including myself all throughout the forums who explained why he needs it and why he is weak enough to have it.
    Man! Could this game get any more broken?
  • Devlin21
    8293 posts Member
    Clone201 wrote: »
    Khronikos wrote: »
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    What the... dude, have you gone off of the deep end here. We're not even mentioning HvV here. This is strictly GA we're talking about, and the fact of the matter is: He sucks big time. Han solo is honestly more effective sitting in the back and pop shotting. Luke the kind of Hero other Infantry have no problem rushing down with a shot gun. He can't fight at all more than one trooper at a time without taking massive damage. His in-game description is false advertising, he's supposed to be Hit and run and agile enough to escape un scathed in most situations. Not possible against troopers with guns, maybe against a slow vader.


    He needs massive buffs big time. I hope this isn't lost on you, but something tells me you probably suck as him as well in GA. Highest kill streak ever was probably 15 kills. Sorry, but thats worthless.

    I don't play as him in GA since the mode does not suit his abilities. People really should not be going on regular kill streaks of 20+ as that means something is probably broken or the matchmaking is bad. You can rip up HvV as Luke at times though. It just depends on your team. And his abilities are great for crowd control to escape. Hardly any hero or villain gets 15+ kill streaks but the broken ones in EVEN matches lol. Against good players you never last that long.

    And no he does not need major buffs. Stop crying. As if this fanbase will stop crying. It's like dealing with a bunch of children when it comes to everything.

    Guyz I want Luke buffed until I get a 90 kill streak! Only then will it be fair. OKAY SON.

    Ok, so you like Luke still being objectively worse than everyone else, when he is the GREATEST JEDI OF ALL TIME in the Star Wars franchise, as mentioned multiple times by @Landeaux2? Not to say hat he is supposed to do best than anyone else, it's a video game after all.

    Alright...

    Maybe ''major'' wasn't the right word to use, or the word that should of supported the fact that Luke needs a buff, but I assure that he needs a buff. There are many users on here, including myself all throughout the forums who explained why he needs it and why he is weak enough to have it.

    Major buff needed.
    Damage increased. Repulse changed. Rush reworked. Etc
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  • AbyssWatch3r
    4382 posts Member
    Khronikos wrote: »
    Khronikos wrote: »
    First of all a good loadout with Luke in HvV and he can be devastating on certain maps. He can throw the enemy team all over the place. As long as your teammates are doing their job he is actually quite good in many circumstances in that mode.

    As for GA he is less viable because he is no longer trying to hit larger targets most of the time. Luke excels with a skilled player that can bounce enemy heroes around.

    He does not deserve nor does he need a large buff. He could use some tweaks for sure, but nothing crazy or anything.

    Yes, Vader is easy mode. Kylo actually has some really good abilities when you work with your teammates. Out of all the saber guys I agree Luke is probably the hardest to use.

    I didn't say he needed no tweaks, I said he does not need any major new elements added to his stable. He is fine as is with a few tweaks maybe to Star Cards or 25 health or something.

    Like I said a proper Luke in HvV can be pretty devastating with good teammates. But you absolutely need good teammates. Luke is not easy mode Vader. Vader probably needs to be toned down by 25 health or something.

    Rey of course is just beast mode and another super easy character to use just like Vader. I'm not sure how the community feels about nerfing these two.

    What the... dude, have you gone off of the deep end here. We're not even mentioning HvV here. This is strictly GA we're talking about, and the fact of the matter is: He sucks big time. Han solo is honestly more effective sitting in the back and pop shotting. Luke the kind of Hero other Infantry have no problem rushing down with a shot gun. He can't fight at all more than one trooper at a time without taking massive damage. His in-game description is false advertising, he's supposed to be Hit and run and agile enough to escape un scathed in most situations. Not possible against troopers with guns, maybe against a slow vader.


    He needs massive buffs big time. I hope this isn't lost on you, but something tells me you probably suck as him as well in GA. Highest kill streak ever was probably 15 kills. Sorry, but thats worthless.

    I don't play as him in GA since the mode does not suit his abilities. People really should not be going on regular kill streaks of 20+ as that means something is probably broken or the matchmaking is bad. You can rip up HvV as Luke at times though. It just depends on your team. And his abilities are great for crowd control to escape. Hardly any hero or villain gets 15+ kill streaks but the broken ones in EVEN matches lol. Against good players you never last that long.

    And no he does not need major buffs. Stop crying. As if this fanbase will stop crying. It's like dealing with a bunch of children when it comes to everything.

    Guyz I want Luke buffed until I get a 90 kill streak! Only then will it be fair. OKAY SON.

    Woah, bad. And I mean, really, really, really bad. If you think luke should top out at 20 kills, while everyone else like the emperor get over a 100 easily, and you call that balanced. Then you need help getting good. Like really? 20 kills is nothing man, it's worthless. Thats like a run of the mill suicide run on maul. On Luke you gotta really try to even get that high. That's not balanced or fair. Luke in the last game was how he should be now. Maybe minus the one shot abilities.
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  • Devlin21
    8293 posts Member
    :s
    No luke buff or boba buff.
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  • Clone201
    3489 posts Member
    :s
    No luke buff or boba buff.

    Next patch?!? When it is it? Am I missin' something? Did the hero designer screw up again?!?
    Man! Could this game get any more broken?
  • Devlin21
    8293 posts Member
    Clone201 wrote: »
    :s
    No luke buff or boba buff.

    Next patch?!? When it is it? Am I missin' something? Did the hero designer screw up again?!?

    Just have that feeling. Although with solo season coming, boba could be buffed if hes in it the movie.

    These are hotfix type buffs needed.
    @F8RGE lied to us. :'( Luke didn't get any buffs. Just a description change.
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