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It's gotten so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase, I sometimes wonder If want to be a Star Wars fan anymore. It's come to that. It's reached that point. Despite loving Star Wars for years, I don't think I want to be part of a community with toxic people.

Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. These **** say that Disney is ruining Star Wars. On the contrary, these horrible example of fans are ruining SW for me.

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  • FreakyCrawdad
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    edited May 16
    Sometimes you gotta just let it all go.

    If I took even 10% of the rage here or Toxicity seriously, even the “Doom & Gloom”, I’d be Super Depressed.

    Regardless of everything, Everyone here is a Fan dude. I guaranty it. Even the trolls.

    We’re just different people. We react differently. That’s not gonna change.

    But trust me, I feel ya man. I GET You. :blush:

    Try not to let it eat away at you. It ain’t worth it.

    Just my 2 cents.

    @Dash_Gaming is someone you should listen to. The guy gives out great advice. Do not let other people's opinions bring you down. Form your own opinion and let that guide your love of Star Wars. Just calm down, and listen to Dash. We love Star Wars as much as you do. Just think about all of the hate as someone expressing their opinion and that it does not have to affect you. The best thing to do is just get off of the sites, and unfollow the people, that cause negativity and sadness. That is the best thing to do, and it is what I do when I am in a relationship where all I get is hate and negativity from someone.
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  • HansTheBest
    993 posts Member
    edited May 16
    I don't feel like the SW community is toxic. It's way better than most that I've participated in. That's one of the reasons I spend (way) more time on these forums than I do playing the actual game. BTW, if you've interpreted any of my sarcasm as saltiness - I'm sorry. I tend to saying things playfully that could probably be offensive. When I feel like someone is genuinely disrespecting or mocking people, you may have noticed that I'll kick em in the butt though.
  • Dash
    9618 posts Member
    edited May 16
    EvazanJr wrote: »
    SW fans suck yes.

    But so do all other fans.

    Speaking of which, have you SEEN the Animosity at a “Trekkers” convention!? Bruh, I had a Vader watch. Just a watch, and I had DROVES of haters lecturing me about “Disrespect”. I was there with my cousin who’s a Massive Star Trek Fan. I was his chaperone lol! :lol:
    Sometimes you gotta just let it all go.

    If I took even 10% of the rage here or Toxicity seriously, even the “Doom & Gloom”, I’d be Super Depressed.

    Regardless of everything, Everyone here is a Fan dude. I guaranty it. Even the trolls.

    We’re just different people. We react differently. That’s not gonna change.

    But trust me, I feel ya man. I GET You. :blush:

    Try not to let it eat away at you. It ain’t worth it.

    Just my 2 cents.

    @Dash_Gaming is someone you should listen to. The guy gives out great advice. Do not let other people's opinions bring you down. Form your own opinion and let that guide your love of Star Wars. Just calm down, and listen to Dash. We love Star Wars as much as you do. Just think about all of the hate as someone expressing their opinion and that it does not have to affect you. The best thing to do is just get off of the sites, and unfollow the people, that cause negativity and sadness. That is the best thing to do, and it is what I do when I am in a relationship where all I get is hate and negativity from someone.

    Thanks for the kind words dude.

    In all honesty, Everyone’s entitled to their Opinions. That’s a Fact. Plain and Simple. No way around that whatsoever.

    People will Love, Hate, Troll, And so on. They got a Reason for it, and for Darn sure they have a Right to Express their feelings/reasoning.

    #Truth
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  • EvazanJr wrote: »
    SW fans suck yes.

    But so do all other fans.

    Speaking of which, have you SEEN the Animosity at a “Trekkers” convention!? Bruh, I had a Vader watch. Just a watch, and I had DROVES of haters lecturing me about “Disrespect”. I was there with my cousin who’s a Massive Star Trek Fan. I was his chaperone lol! :lol:
    Sometimes you gotta just let it all go.

    If I took even 10% of the rage here or Toxicity seriously, even the “Doom & Gloom”, I’d be Super Depressed.

    Regardless of everything, Everyone here is a Fan dude. I guaranty it. Even the trolls.

    We’re just different people. We react differently. That’s not gonna change.

    But trust me, I feel ya man. I GET You. :blush:

    Try not to let it eat away at you. It ain’t worth it.

    Just my 2 cents.

    @Dash_Gaming is someone you should listen to. The guy gives out great advice. Do not let other people's opinions bring you down. Form your own opinion and let that guide your love of Star Wars. Just calm down, and listen to Dash. We love Star Wars as much as you do. Just think about all of the hate as someone expressing their opinion and that it does not have to affect you. The best thing to do is just get off of the sites, and unfollow the people, that cause negativity and sadness. That is the best thing to do, and it is what I do when I am in a relationship where all I get is hate and negativity from someone.

    Thanks for the kind words dude.

    In all honesty, Everyone’s entitled to their Opinions. That’s a Fact. Plain and Simple. No way around that whatsoever.

    People will Love, Hate, Troll, And so on. They got a Reason for it, and for Darn sure they have a Right to Express their feelings/reasoning.

    #Truth

    I guess that was a lesson learned.
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  • The new movies were aweful imo im 50-50 on even seeing Han Solo but to each their own. You can't say Disney isn't using a marketing strategy to net as much money as possible by turning star wars into a melting pot, trying to being pleasing to as many people as possible.
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  • Sometimes you gotta just let it all go.

    If I took even 10% of the rage here or Toxicity seriously, even the “Doom & Gloom”, I’d be Super Depressed.

    Regardless of everything, Everyone here is a Fan dude. I guaranty it. Even the trolls.

    We’re just different people. We react differently. That’s not gonna change.

    But trust me, I feel ya man. I GET You. :blush:

    Try not to let it eat away at you. It ain’t worth it.

    Just my 2 cents.

    This. And to add to that.

    Don't let those people influence you and your love for Star Wars. It is an amazing thing with amazing people. Of course there will be some pretty bad and rude people but it is like that with anything else. You are yourself and no matter how toxic they can be that doesn't change you personally.

    But as Dash touched on. We are all fans. No matter how toxic some can be. We all think differently. We all react differently. And we all have different opinions and emotions. But one thing we can all relate to is that we all love Star Wars. We are all like a big family. And just like any family there is agreeing and there is disagreeing. And because of it we are better off.

    May the Force be with you <3
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  • The new movies were aweful imo im 50-50 on even seeing Han Solo but to each their own. You can't say Disney isn't using a marketing strategy to net as much money as possible by turning star wars into a melting pot, trying to being pleasing to as many people as possible.

    Not trying to insult you, Tony. I am going to use you as an example.
    To the OP. Tony does not like the new movies, but that is okay because it is his opinion. You do not have to listen to it, just like you do not have to listen to mine. I liked the new movies, but that is just my opinion, and if you so choose, you do not have to listen.
    What I am saying is that you should form your own opinion based on what you think.
    "It's true. All of it. The Dark Side. The Jedi. They're real". -Han Solo
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    On Yoda's Flying Chair: The floating chair has a little area in between the hovering part and his cushion that allows him to go whenever he wants. That is why Mace always looks like he just smelled something bad.
  • Skowsa
    237 posts Member
    The new movies were aweful imo im 50-50 on even seeing Han Solo but to each their own. You can't say Disney isn't using a marketing strategy to net as much money as possible by turning star wars into a melting pot, trying to being pleasing to as many people as possible.

    That’s funny because I thought the newer movies were excellent. I was too young for ANH or ESB in theatres but I saw RotJ in the theatres when it was first released. Loved it. I saw all the refinished OT in theatres when they were re-released. Loved them.

    I saw PM in the theatre and hated it. Hated it so much that I didn’t bother with AotC until it hit DVD. Loved it. Seen the rest on opening night and not been disappointed again.

    I can watch PM without wanting to throw something but that has taken time.

    I have read nearly every Star Wars novel ever and many of the comics. All this to say that I am not new to Star Wars, but.... I honestly think that The Last Jedi is probably my favourite movie. I went in there not wanting to see some things (and I didn’t see them) and wanting to see some things (and I saw them). Perfect? No. But very very good.
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  • The new movies were aweful imo im 50-50 on even seeing Han Solo but to each their own. You can't say Disney isn't using a marketing strategy to net as much money as possible by turning star wars into a melting pot, trying to being pleasing to as many people as possible.

    Not trying to insult you, Tony. I am going to use you as an example.
    To the OP. Tony does not like the new movies, but that is okay because it is his opinion. You do not have to listen to it, just like you do not have to listen to mine. I liked the new movies, but that is just my opinion, and if you so choose, you do not have to listen.
    What I am saying is that you should form your own opinion based on what you think.

    Well me not liking the new sw movies is my opinion. Idc what ya'll like lol
    Skowsa wrote: »
    The new movies were aweful imo im 50-50 on even seeing Han Solo but to each their own. You can't say Disney isn't using a marketing strategy to net as much money as possible by turning star wars into a melting pot, trying to being pleasing to as many people as possible.

    That’s funny because I thought the newer movies were excellent. I was too young for ANH or ESB in theatres but I saw RotJ in the theatres when it was first released. Loved it. I saw all the refinished OT in theatres when they were re-released. Loved them.

    I saw PM in the theatre and hated it. Hated it so much that I didn’t bother with AotC until it hit DVD. Loved it. Seen the rest on opening night and not been disappointed again.

    I can watch PM without wanting to throw something but that has taken time.

    I have read nearly every Star Wars novel ever and many of the comics. All this to say that I am not new to Star Wars, but.... I honestly think that The Last Jedi is probably my favourite movie. I went in there not wanting to see some things (and I didn’t see them) and wanting to see some things (and I saw them). Perfect? No. But very very good.

    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.
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  • The new movies were aweful imo im 50-50 on even seeing Han Solo but to each their own. You can't say Disney isn't using a marketing strategy to net as much money as possible by turning star wars into a melting pot, trying to being pleasing to as many people as possible.

    Not trying to insult you, Tony. I am going to use you as an example.
    To the OP. Tony does not like the new movies, but that is okay because it is his opinion. You do not have to listen to it, just like you do not have to listen to mine. I liked the new movies, but that is just my opinion, and if you so choose, you do not have to listen.
    What I am saying is that you should form your own opinion based on what you think.

    Well me not liking the new sw movies is my opinion. Idc what ya'll like lol
    Skowsa wrote: »
    The new movies were aweful imo im 50-50 on even seeing Han Solo but to each their own. You can't say Disney isn't using a marketing strategy to net as much money as possible by turning star wars into a melting pot, trying to being pleasing to as many people as possible.

    That’s funny because I thought the newer movies were excellent. I was too young for ANH or ESB in theatres but I saw RotJ in the theatres when it was first released. Loved it. I saw all the refinished OT in theatres when they were re-released. Loved them.

    I saw PM in the theatre and hated it. Hated it so much that I didn’t bother with AotC until it hit DVD. Loved it. Seen the rest on opening night and not been disappointed again.

    I can watch PM without wanting to throw something but that has taken time.

    I have read nearly every Star Wars novel ever and many of the comics. All this to say that I am not new to Star Wars, but.... I honestly think that The Last Jedi is probably my favourite movie. I went in there not wanting to see some things (and I didn’t see them) and wanting to see some things (and I saw them). Perfect? No. But very very good.

    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    True, and I do not mind. I am hoping that Kylo and Rey have an ultimate duel at the end of IX, or I will be slightly sad.
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  • Skowsa
    237 posts Member
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.
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  • VaperEyes
    341 posts Member
    edited May 16
    It's gotten so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase..... Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. These **** say that Disney is ruining Star Wars....

    Spoken like a true SW fan. It's a feeling based on decades of neglect. George Lucas wrote a brilliant story - greed and self-interest ripped that story in to tiny pieces. Like me, you probably pictured a thousand scenarios of SW that don't look nothing like the new movies (except for the vision of JJ Abrams)
    It makes no sense to me to feel this way - but this is what it looks like when they chose to complicate a man's childhood dream with "delusions of grandeur" - Han Solo
    You sound like a true Star Wars fan.
  • Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.
    "It's true. All of it. The Dark Side. The Jedi. They're real". -Han Solo
    okjzkqv763wu.png
    On Yoda's Flying Chair: The floating chair has a little area in between the hovering part and his cushion that allows him to go whenever he wants. That is why Mace always looks like he just smelled something bad.
  • Skowsa
    237 posts Member
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.
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  • Dash
    9618 posts Member
    edited May 16
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.
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  • Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.

    Ryan said that the reason he did not have Snoke explain if he was Darth Plagieus, is because Rey would have said, "Who?" and new fans of the trilogy and kids would not have got it whatsoever. We, the few, would have; but they would not. Darn you, Ryan Johnson.
    "It's true. All of it. The Dark Side. The Jedi. They're real". -Han Solo
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    On Yoda's Flying Chair: The floating chair has a little area in between the hovering part and his cushion that allows him to go whenever he wants. That is why Mace always looks like he just smelled something bad.
  • VaperEyes wrote: »
    It's gotten so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase..... Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. These **** say that Disney is ruining Star Wars....

    Spoken like a true SW fan. It's a feeling based on decades of neglect. George Lucas wrote a brilliant story - greed and self-interest ripped that story in to tiny pieces. Like me, you probably pictured a thousand scenarios of SW that don't look nothing like the new movies (except for the vision of JJ Abrams)
    It makes no sense to me to feel this way - but this is what it looks like when you chose to complicate a man's childhood dream with "delusions of grandeur" - Han Solo
    You sound like a true Star Wars fan.

    You alone are an example. You cut my comment in half and out of context.
  • Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.

    I know me too! Outside of Luke, he was the most interesting character in the new trilogy for me.

    I sense he may be back though in some shape or form in episode 9.
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  • Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.

    +1 HUGE disappointment with how they handled him. They turned him into a parody and gave him one of the most embarrassing deaths since Boba in ROTJ.
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  • It's gotten so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase, I sometimes wonder If want to be a Star Wars fan anymore. It's come to that. It's reached that point. Despite loving Star Wars for years, I don't think I want to be part of a community with toxic people.

    Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. These **** say that Disney is ruining Star Wars. On the contrary, these horrible example of fans are ruining SW for me.

    Omg I seriously understand where you’re coming from. My two close friends and I went to see Slayer with Anthrax, and Testament for their farewell tour and we were talking about Star Wars (nothing new). But one of friends starting talking about TLJ and how Rose Tico and the lady that kept her plan a secret were the main reasons why the film was horrible. I just feel so sad that friend think that and started to mush in our real life politics into the film. I never thought of the film that way. I personally don’t give about the whole feminism thing being ‘forced’ down my throat because I didn’t feel that way or even thought of it like that. I just knew Rose was a very bland and boring character overall in that film. However, I still and will love TLJ and nothing will change it. It was an amazing film for me.
  • Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.

    Ryan said that the reason he did not have Snoke explain if he was Darth Plagieus, is because Rey would have said, "Who?" and new fans of the trilogy and kids would not have got it whatsoever. We, the few, would have; but they would not. Darn you, Ryan Johnson.

    I mean, he didn't necessarily have to be Plagueis to be a cool new villain. Now would have I liked him to be Plagueis? Sure, it would've tied all the 3 trilogies together nicely but it wasn't necessary. My biggest problem was this:

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    Like was that really needed? Even if they do bring him back, this will always leave a stain on him. They killed him way too soon and way too easily.
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    Must...Restrain...Compulsive...Desire...To...complain...About TLJ

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  • Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.

    +1 HUGE disappointment with how they handled him. They turned him into a parody and gave him one of the most embarrassing deaths since Boba in ROTJ.

    That's another problem. This is not towards you, it's just that your comment on ROTJ reminded me of something (along with a comment on YouTube I just read). I'm tired of hearing people say that ROTJ was made as a marketing tool to appeal to children only. What a cold insult. Star Wars is made for EVERYONE. Millions of kids saw ANH in 1977; millions of kids saw TESB in 1980. When someone says they like A New Hope more than The Empire Strikes Back, nobody panics. If a fan (like me) were to pick Return Of The Jedi over Empire, everyone probably loses their minds. I guess a lot of fans don't like the lighter tone in Jedi compared to Empire. TESB is an amazing film (along with ANH), but the main heroes suffered enough in the second film. ROTJ has that heroic comeback (it also has a good balance of dark and light tones). In the end, the Original Trilogy is a three-part masterpiece. As I rank them, they are so close to each other, any closer would be a three-way tie (It may turn out that way someday. Who knows?). So yeah, when it comes to the OT, I love ROTJ more than TESB. That's how I grew up with it.
  • OOM19
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    Just stop going to social media for a few months. I did the same with the Godzilla franchise when I was beginning to forget why I liked Godzilla in the first place and it did a great job

    I was able to appreciate Godzilla and think with a clearer mind on the franchise then I had been able to in years

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  • The game is what makes people toxic, it's not Star Wars people are upset over.

    If anything, you should dislike EA more for living up to its reputation for being the most hated video game publisher ever.



  • MASSEFFECTfanX
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    edited May 16
    Look, I know the same thing can be said about people who talk **** about the people who dislike things in Star Wars, calling them haters and such. I'm not doing that. Besides, the negative abuse towards the positive side of the fandom is much worse and more powerful.
  • Dash
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    OOM19 wrote: »
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    Where is this hate?

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  • You are going to have people that like things and people that don't like things. Its the way the world works.

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  • Anoh
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    edited May 16
    I'm not connected with the current "Star Wars", PT (most importantly RotS)/TCW is where it's at for me and always will be.
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  • VaperEyes
    341 posts Member
    You alone are an example. You cut my comment in half and out of context.

    No, I read every word and I agree with your discontent. I was just given my own opinion of the same frustration.
  • Star Wars fans are horrible. Even Neil degrass called them ****. They’re so bad and it’s mostly the OT loving SW fans that hated the PT and now the ST.
  • GivenumDaBiznes
    1031 posts Member
    edited May 16
    Repost.
  • t3hBar0n
    3400 posts Member
    I don't pay attention to people who describe themselves as "fans" of just about anything... fan = fanatic... and fanatics are unreasonable lol.
  • Trooper8059
    10167 posts Member
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.

    Ryan said that the reason he did not have Snoke explain if he was Darth Plagieus, is because Rey would have said, "Who?" and new fans of the trilogy and kids would not have got it whatsoever. We, the few, would have; but they would not. Darn you, Ryan Johnson.

    I mean, he didn't necessarily have to be Plagueis to be a cool new villain. Now would have I liked him to be Plagueis? Sure, it would've tied all the 3 trilogies together nicely but it wasn't necessary. My biggest problem was this:

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    Like was that really needed? Even if they do bring him back, this will always leave a stain on him. They killed him way too soon and way too easily.

    And after they did a good job making him look and feel powerful.
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  • VaperEyes
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    If it's not already obviously apparent from my avatar, I'm a huge ROTJ fan (yub nubs included). I love how we see Luke in this film: He's matured from his farmboy days on Tatooine, He's gone through so much pain and loss, He has come to terms with the truth of his bloodline, He is willing to sacrifice it all for his friends and even his own father, and in the end its that love that turns his father over. It's a beautiful masterpiece that masterfully ends the trilogy...but it is because of this love I have for ROTJ and Luke, that TLJ just didn't sit with me well. I can't watch ROTJ and think TLJ was going to be the outcome 30 years down line, but thats just me and my opinion.
    Spoken like a true SW fan. I saw the same scripts play out over the years and TLJ portrayed Luke as a recovering alcoholic with no mama love or purpose in life. Grand Master Skywalker the two-bid loser sitting on a rock in the middle of Fan-ta-see Island. (Cruel at best)
    This post is about the toxicity of the fanbase - which I'm guilty of a times. But the fan frustration is not rooted in an EA game alone.
  • The game is what makes people toxic, it's not Star Wars people are upset over.

    If anything, you should dislike EA more for living up to its reputation for being the most hated video game publisher ever.



    That ain't true. We are talking about the entire Star Wars community.
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  • Troopper_FoFo
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    edited May 16


    I mean, he didn't necessarily have to be Plagueis to be a cool new villain. Now would have I liked him to be Plagueis? Sure, it would've tied all the 3 trilogies together nicely but it wasn't necessary. My biggest problem was this:

    Like was that really needed? Even if they do bring him back, this will always leave a stain on him. They killed him way too soon and way too easily.

    Plagueis is boring he doesn't have light sabers implanted into his body including his knees like Irek Ismaren.

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  • darthsbro
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    As much as I agree with the OPs sentiment I think sometimes you just have to step back to get some perspective.

    Most negative videos on YT are by people who make sensationalist content to earn money. They represent a tiny fraction of the 'fanbase' but because they shout loudly and often they tend to get attention.

    They typically make something appear 1000x worse than it actually is and most of time they just seem to make **** up anyway to make themselves feel and appear important to their own viewers. The whole thing is an echo chamber but, because of how YT works, their content can often innocently appear in your YT suggestions even if you didn't ask for it. Click on one of these videos just once and YT flags you as liking this stuff and BOOM your YT suggestions are suddenly full of doom and gloom about SW. It can appear legit too because Disney seem to be ok with anyone infringing on official SW logos and trademarks.

    Yes there are disgruntled fans with every new film but seriously, Star Wars is not in any danger. All this perceived furore about SJWs, Kathleen Kennedy, Disney hating SW etc etc is a storm in a tea cup designed to get attention. Remember the old adage 'no publicity is bad publicity!'

    For instance, this latest YT/Twitter 'campaign' supporting a boycott of the opening weekend of Solo was incited by a few disgruntled Youtubers who are mainly disappointed that 'their' vision of what TLJ should have been didn't come to fruition and they got so **** they want to vent. What better way to do so than attacking the next relatable thing that comes along i.e. the next SW related movie 'Solo' - and all this without even seeing it first. It's childish.

    The natural cycle of movie releases in a saga often means the middle films will attract lower viewing figures than the comeback film, the finale and spinoffs can appeals even less. Just you watch the haters seize on lower than astronomical viewing figures for Solo as 'proof' that SW is dying and that it was 'they' who foretold the future because they are such 'great fans'. It's all nonsense.

    Regardless of bad reviews,haters and the negativity you see on Reddit, YT etc the box office receipts alone prove SW is VERY strong but it will always fluctuate with each new generation of films and fans.

    Your own views do not need to meet with anyone's approval. It's ok to disagree. You don't need to justify your opinion or prove how much of a fan you are to anyone because that is personal.

    I love Star Wars. I have for over 40 years and, whether I agree or disagree with wherever the writers and directors entrusted with this epic saga decide to take us I will still be a fan till my last breath. Keep the faith guys!
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  • VaperEyes
    341 posts Member
    That ain't true. We are talking about the entire Star Wars community.

    We posted at the same exact time - but I couldn't agree more.
  • It truly is bad lately (for awhile actually). Gaming related, I do remember a time when everyone was backing a little game called Socom and the good vibes that came from it were so awesome. Unfortunately I have yet to see this impact again. I believe anything we get from prequel and original trilogy content right now is a bonus compared to the new trilogy. I usually keep my head down and watch the noodles come out of the wood work and say they're opinion and thats that. I thought about something recently and its an obvious one, I love Battlefront and am thankful there is no voice chat option in these games. It would be horrible otherwise and everyone would know each others mothers lol. Keep being a fan for yourself.
  • Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.

    Ryan said that the reason he did not have Snoke explain if he was Darth Plagieus, is because Rey would have said, "Who?" and new fans of the trilogy and kids would not have got it whatsoever. We, the few, would have; but they would not. Darn you, Ryan Johnson.

    I mean, he didn't necessarily have to be Plagueis to be a cool new villain. Now would have I liked him to be Plagueis? Sure, it would've tied all the 3 trilogies together nicely but it wasn't necessary. My biggest problem was this:

    2nico06.png

    Like was that really needed? Even if they do bring him back, this will always leave a stain on him. They killed him way too soon and way too easily.

    And after they did a good job making him look and feel powerful.

    Tell me about it. Even with the little that we got from him I was able to do a Hero mock up of how awesome he could be in BF. (Imagine if we had another film or just even more in TLJ)

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  • HansTheBest
    993 posts Member
    edited May 16
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.

    +1 HUGE disappointment with how they handled him. They turned him into a parody and gave him one of the most embarrassing deaths since Boba in ROTJ.

    That's another problem. This is not towards you, it's just that your comment on ROTJ reminded me of something (along with a comment on YouTube I just read). I'm tired of hearing people say that ROTJ was made as a marketing tool to appeal to children only. What a cold insult. Star Wars is made for EVERYONE. Millions of kids saw ANH in 1977; millions of kids saw TESB in 1980. When someone says they like A New Hope more than The Empire Strikes Back, nobody panics. If a fan (like me) were to pick Return Of The Jedi over Empire, everyone probably loses their minds. I guess a lot of fans don't like the lighter tone in Jedi compared to Empire. TESB is an amazing film (along with ANH), but the main heroes suffered enough in the second film. ROTJ has that heroic comeback (it also has a good balance of dark and light tones). In the end, the Original Trilogy is a three-part masterpiece. As I rank them, they are so close to each other, any closer would be a three-way tie (It may turn out that way someday. Who knows?). So yeah, when it comes to the OT, I love ROTJ more than TESB. That's how I grew up with it.

    What? Fans should love ROTJ. Sure there are some silly parts (ewoks & deathstar 2.0), but overall it's a great film. The finale is perfect and the title referring to Anakin is golden (if you see it that way). If any of you have a problem with ROTJ, come at me bro!

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    Having said that, I hated TLJ. It just felt like a total discontinuation of the story. I don't have a problem with how it turned out anymore, but continuity is important to me.
  • Skowsa wrote: »
    Skowsa wrote: »
    Personally my biggest take-away is that the lightsaber combat just wasn't what i thought it would be for a movie in today's day and age.

    Fair enough. The throne room scene was one of my favourite scenes but that’s how it goes. The world is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same way. It’s what gives us flavour to life.

    I enjoyed that scene. Slightly sad that another movie series killed off Andy Serkis, but hey, what can you do.

    Funny, I couldn’t stand Snoke’s character and that is one of the highlights of the movie for me. Felt for Andy Serkis though. He doesn’t seem to last to the end of many movies. Oh well, Tintin 2 is still planned.

    I couldn’t stand what they did to/with Snoke as a character.

    +1 HUGE disappointment with how they handled him. They turned him into a parody and gave him one of the most embarrassing deaths since Boba in ROTJ.

    That's another problem. This is not towards you, it's just that your comment on ROTJ reminded me of something (along with a comment on YouTube I just read). I'm tired of hearing people say that ROTJ was made as a marketing tool to appeal to children only. What a cold insult. Star Wars is made for EVERYONE. Millions of kids saw ANH in 1977; millions of kids saw TESB in 1980. When someone says they like A New Hope more than The Empire Strikes Back, nobody panics. If a fan (like me) were to pick Return Of The Jedi over Empire, everyone probably loses their minds. I guess a lot of fans don't like the lighter tone in Jedi compared to Empire. TESB is an amazing film (along with ANH), but the main heroes suffered enough in the second film. ROTJ has that heroic comeback (it also has a good balance of dark and light tones). In the end, the Original Trilogy is a three-part masterpiece. As I rank them, they are so close to each other, any closer would be a three-way tie (It may turn out that way someday. Who knows?). So yeah, when it comes to the OT, I love ROTJ more than TESB. That's how I grew up with it.

    What? Fans should love ROTJ. Sure there are some silly parts (ewoks & deathstar 2.0), but overall it's a great film. The finale is perfect and the title referring to Anakin is golden (if you see it that way). If any of you have a problem with ROTJ, come at me bro!

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    What?! Ewoks are the stuff of nightmares. They ain't silly. My comment is silly.
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  • I tend to agree with you post Ewok Hunt. It definitely made me like them more.
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