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What can WE do to get what WE want? - 2.0

Kniphtee
991 posts Member
Seems the writing is on the wall - whether right or left - reddit or read it the point is that the game we love is on the ropes and the med squad is held up on doughnut duty with the hog fest - so...last uppercuts and cross-hooks...bail out
1. Conquest - community begging for sandbox conquest - revenue and long-term player-base - add a few commercials
2. Extraction - wildly popular without the XXX theme - easy cheesy - devs, etc. try to find the new and what will work - there's a middle ground tween what worked and what does not and then there's breaking the mold - amidst this you'll find what hits and what does not - some of this is demographic among sooo many other options - set up a vote system for what's next - leave it open and not restricted and see what we would love from you?
3. Cargo - nod to DASH - but i agree - fun big mode and bang it out DICE
4. Fix the specialist class - nod to GenX - been on your wagon since the first wheel went bunk and i played Emmet tossing my dome to save the accident - Lego up - on a bender tonight - this silly game has me ticked on the short-term run and soooo not happy if the devs are tossing it to the side with all it could be - potential and hope
5. Good, fun skins and other doodads like weapons, cards and so much more...easy revenue - i.e. - add in DC-17 (or whatever blaster) - unlock 'scope' - either get 'X' kills (or play the class and get 'x' points) or pay $X.00 dollars to unlock.
6. Big Ears has ton of holdings - free publicity between rounds - commercial time - synergy equals revenue - spent many years w/ a small company (50+/- employees) and we put our name/stamp/logo on everything - revenue grew while employee count did not which of course increased revenue and salaries. Think about this - while playing the game there's a commercial for Hasbro light sabers or EA's FIFA or whatever w/ a hyperlink - double revenue - poof.
7. Clone Wars - and not 'can i only put my tip in' type of Clone Wars - all in baby (and that could be the result - Geonosis should be a pre - ahem - load to the rest) - either you make games that gain profits or you make games that hope to make profits and then bail as soon as you see the iceberg ... DICE you are drawing a line in the 'Hothnian ice' regardless of EA oversight - been on board with BF and BF for years but will (Disney - Elsa, deliver it babe) 'Let It Go' and spend my time elsewhere...
Don't even feel ticked as much as disgusted the more i think about it - like when you bust your kid lying...hope, that's all we have that Dennis and Peter will stitch together a Frankenstein to beast the gaming world - they can and we know it. Players pay for what GOOOOD stuff not a band-aid on Chewie or bruised hero...can do sooo much better...how about giving Chewie a medal or the back pack w/ C3PO or how about playing as a droid or ... or ... or ... so much more available. Sad Cry.
Had to repost this - swear words were not received well by the moderator but think this needs to be out there for our fan base - so tidied up the language (giving props to several other good forum posters and took out the poop term).

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  • GenxDarchi
    7789 posts Member
    Amen to Specialist and Cargo. I agree.
    You guys are gonna make me rich......
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    That Specialist rework was disappointing.
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  • Kniphtee
    991 posts Member
    From what i gather - the deal is to badger / lobby for what you want and 'MAYBE' it will happen...lousy odds...?
  • MASSEFFECTfanX
    348 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    I want more of everything. More OT, PT, and ST stuff. This also includes the stand alone films.
  • Kniphtee
    991 posts Member
    I want more of everything. More OT, PT, and ST stuff. This also includes the stand alone films.

    Agree totally. In 2015 - we received 4 more drops (nearly) every season - here we get a recycled map every couple of months...feel hosed and throwing around Geonosis as though it were the bomb doesn't have the same weight if it's one map. There's hope but it feels bleak.
  • You mean you didn’t want JP Cargo, Ewoks or a scaled down, 25 second HVV?
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  • Roll to be reverted.
    SBMM is here to stay in all games so I'm not, gonna play till they stop support this game and Overwatch then i'm out.
    Here is proof showing how SBMM exists and how it's in ALL of our new games online. https://www.reddit.com/r/modernwarfare/comments/e6ybmj/the_design_proof_of_sbmm_and_how_its_even_worse/
  • More arcade content
    I finally rest. And watch the sun set on an offline universe.
  • Spiito
    2101 posts Member
    But what can WE do to get what WE want?
    Wknuto!
  • More arcade content

    No. At this point in the game, their time and energy should not be spent on Arcade.

    Maps. Modes.
    PSN: BucksawBoushh
  • Kniphtee
    991 posts Member
    All the UI and décor is peachy - content is what was eluded to from the jump and that is what is needed.
    Sell commercials between rounds for your own products and other Disney merch, put out skins the player base wants, add in guns (gun add-ons), cards, etc. - stuff.
    Sold as huge Star Wars and plenty of seasons and maps and free content - thus far, feel far down on the spectrum of getting what was sold to us.
    This is not entirely negative - enjoy tons about the game (aside from wookie warriors, the (not-so) specialist class and a few other annoyances) but how much more it could (have) been - feels like dashed hopes.
  • -First and foremost, stop acting like you deserve it. Self-entitlement just makes people look at you like a child and treat you similarly.
    -Secondly, specify exactly what you want and exactly how you believe it can fit into the game so they can figure out how to put it into this engine and these maps. Saying "We need (this thing)" and leave it at that. Some things might not work on these maps, or with these mechanics.
    -Thirdly, they aren't required to give every single piece nor do they have to tell us what they are working on 100% of the time. We don't know what other content they are working on, and we don't have to always know, and this is actually a good thing. Imagine if they confirmed Clone Wars heroes and maps, but then when they put them in the engine something went wrong and bugs out the hero or the other players, and then they'd have to push back the release. Do you know how much backlash they would get for that because they "promised" a release date and went back on it because people didn't think of what's happening on their end?
    We have to do everything we can to make their jobs easier, because we have no idea what could possibly be going on there. They could be working on 5 different things for all we know, and only decide to confirm one at a time. It's impossible to know what they're dealing with. Point being, the forums need to learn humility inside and out, and start thinking about something other than themselves and their wants. You catch more flies with sugar than salt. Be nicer and think before you speak, and be thorough in your ideas. It's a simple idea.
  • mastery0ta
    6595 posts Member
    We must not riot in the streets. It's not the Jedi way.
  • More arcade content

    You know just as well as I do that this isn't going to happen. EA unfortunately wants more money (even though they should have enough money already after all these years), so in their odd ways of business, EA & DICE will refuse to add anything that will overshadow the Multiplayer part of the game (despite how frustrating MP can be to some players). Why do you think the recent add on of SA in Arcade is just Team Deathmatch with Starfighters, with no real objectives?

    There was a time when SP was primary, and MP was secondary.
  • More arcade content

    There was a time when SP was primary, and MP was secondary.

    The time when multiplayer just started existing and nobody overhyped it like Battlefiled of CoD.
  • MASSEFFECTfanX
    348 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    More arcade content

    There was a time when SP was primary, and MP was secondary.

    The time when multiplayer just started existing and nobody overhyped it like Battlefiled of CoD.

    It's overhyped in my opinion. Granted there is good multiplayer (I really like Mass Effect 3's & Uncharted 4's Multiplayer, though U4 can be frustrating, but at least it has more customization options than something like Battlefront). I will play games like Division and the upcoming Anthem, which are both SP and MP (almost like an MMO). I'm more into games that lean more towards story, like Mass Effect, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, etc. Again, multiplayer, specifically competitive (like in COD or BF), is overhyped. It's not the greatest thing to ever happen in gaming. It's the most frustrating, to be honest.
  • You could literally give EA a million dollars for new content and they would shove it down their boards pocket and tell you "soon".
  • Jug
    184 posts Member
    -First and foremost, stop acting like you deserve it. Self-entitlement just makes people look at you like a child and treat you similarly.
    -Secondly, specify exactly what you want and exactly how you believe it can fit into the game so they can figure out how to put it into this engine and these maps. Saying "We need (this thing)" and leave it at that. Some things might not work on these maps, or with these mechanics.
    -Thirdly, they aren't required to give every single piece nor do they have to tell us what they are working on 100% of the time. We don't know what other content they are working on, and we don't have to always know, and this is actually a good thing. Imagine if they confirmed Clone Wars heroes and maps, but then when they put them in the engine something went wrong and bugs out the hero or the other players, and then they'd have to push back the release. Do you know how much backlash they would get for that because they "promised" a release date and went back on it because people didn't think of what's happening on their end?
    We have to do everything we can to make their jobs easier, because we have no idea what could possibly be going on there. They could be working on 5 different things for all we know, and only decide to confirm one at a time. It's impossible to know what they're dealing with. Point being, the forums need to learn humility inside and out, and start thinking about something other than themselves and their wants. You catch more flies with sugar than salt. Be nicer and think before you speak, and be thorough in your ideas. It's a simple idea.

    But they need to do better, especially with content
  • MASSEFFECTfanX
    348 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    I just have one question...

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  • Jug wrote: »
    -First and foremost, stop acting like you deserve it. Self-entitlement just makes people look at you like a child and treat you similarly.
    -Secondly, specify exactly what you want and exactly how you believe it can fit into the game so they can figure out how to put it into this engine and these maps. Saying "We need (this thing)" and leave it at that. Some things might not work on these maps, or with these mechanics.
    -Thirdly, they aren't required to give every single piece nor do they have to tell us what they are working on 100% of the time. We don't know what other content they are working on, and we don't have to always know, and this is actually a good thing. Imagine if they confirmed Clone Wars heroes and maps, but then when they put them in the engine something went wrong and bugs out the hero or the other players, and then they'd have to push back the release. Do you know how much backlash they would get for that because they "promised" a release date and went back on it because people didn't think of what's happening on their end?
    We have to do everything we can to make their jobs easier, because we have no idea what could possibly be going on there. They could be working on 5 different things for all we know, and only decide to confirm one at a time. It's impossible to know what they're dealing with. Point being, the forums need to learn humility inside and out, and start thinking about something other than themselves and their wants. You catch more flies with sugar than salt. Be nicer and think before you speak, and be thorough in your ideas. It's a simple idea.

    But they need to do better, especially with content

    Did the point of "Don't be vague and specifially explain all detail" go that far over that head of yours? "Do better content" Ok, give them a place to start.
  • Revan1
    326 posts Member
    edited May 2018
    Jug wrote: »
    -First and foremost, stop acting like you deserve it. Self-entitlement just makes people look at you like a child and treat you similarly.
    -Secondly, specify exactly what you want and exactly how you believe it can fit into the game so they can figure out how to put it into this engine and these maps. Saying "We need (this thing)" and leave it at that. Some things might not work on these maps, or with these mechanics.
    -Thirdly, they aren't required to give every single piece nor do they have to tell us what they are working on 100% of the time. We don't know what other content they are working on, and we don't have to always know, and this is actually a good thing. Imagine if they confirmed Clone Wars heroes and maps, but then when they put them in the engine something went wrong and bugs out the hero or the other players, and then they'd have to push back the release. Do you know how much backlash they would get for that because they "promised" a release date and went back on it because people didn't think of what's happening on their end?
    We have to do everything we can to make their jobs easier, because we have no idea what could possibly be going on there. They could be working on 5 different things for all we know, and only decide to confirm one at a time. It's impossible to know what they're dealing with. Point being, the forums need to learn humility inside and out, and start thinking about something other than themselves and their wants. You catch more flies with sugar than salt. Be nicer and think before you speak, and be thorough in your ideas. It's a simple idea.

    But they need to do better, especially with content

    Did the point of "Don't be vague and specifially explain all detail" go that far over that head of yours? "Do better content" Ok, give them a place to start.
    You really can’t be that myopic and stubborn to say “explain how we need more content”. They’ve literally released nothing new since launch, which is pretty scary considering we started off with a meager 5 GAME MODES. I’m sure you must be happy enough with 2 skins and a recycled map as “seasonal” content. Ben literally said the other day that no heroes were ultimately finished despite so far having 6 months of development time. If this game wasn’t marketed as a ‘live-service” with frequent content updates/fixes then none of our complaining would be justified. EA is the most incompetent publisher in the industry, and deserve every ounce of hate they get for this game. Not only did they bundle its launch, but they extracted all resources from a AAA Star Wars game that many fans were still holding out hope for - plus they completely lied on their end about having a ‘live-service’ model. Sure the game is fun, there’s no denying that, but EA is treating it like an absolute afterthought. It’s sad that publishers nowadays are following the trend of making an incomplete game at launch with a ‘live-service’ guarantee funded by MTX, only to abandon the game a month later with no repercussions...
  • Indiana_Jim
    2074 posts Member
    Well it depends on who WE are, and what WE want.

    And who the heck is Big Ears? Mickey? Disney doesn't fund EA. EA paid for the license, the money for the game comes from EA, Disney has nothing to do with it but oversight. And if you seriously just suggested Battlefront 2 have ads, I'm pretty sure no one wants that.

    As for Extraction, reliable leakers (I believe Uninspired Zebra had this) have hinted that Extraction is coming this season.

    I'm not sure what's wrong with Specialist but they did have that large Trooper feedback thread. After some of the balancing changes to heroes (because, you know, supposedly Guillaume is lazy and hasn't been doing anything /s), I believe some attention will be paid to the issues with the trooper classes, whatever they may be.

    They know we want Prequel/Clone Wars, we know they've been working on those assets, and all the scuttlebutt consistently says that stuff was put on the back burner. Then you had Ben's not-so-subtle hint about Geonosis. So I believe we will be getting that stuff.

    So what can WE do to get what WE want? I guess wait patiently, or go somewhere else.
  • Revan1 wrote: »
    Jug wrote: »
    -First and foremost, stop acting like you deserve it. Self-entitlement just makes people look at you like a child and treat you similarly.
    -Secondly, specify exactly what you want and exactly how you believe it can fit into the game so they can figure out how to put it into this engine and these maps. Saying "We need (this thing)" and leave it at that. Some things might not work on these maps, or with these mechanics.
    -Thirdly, they aren't required to give every single piece nor do they have to tell us what they are working on 100% of the time. We don't know what other content they are working on, and we don't have to always know, and this is actually a good thing. Imagine if they confirmed Clone Wars heroes and maps, but then when they put them in the engine something went wrong and bugs out the hero or the other players, and then they'd have to push back the release. Do you know how much backlash they would get for that because they "promised" a release date and went back on it because people didn't think of what's happening on their end?
    We have to do everything we can to make their jobs easier, because we have no idea what could possibly be going on there. They could be working on 5 different things for all we know, and only decide to confirm one at a time. It's impossible to know what they're dealing with. Point being, the forums need to learn humility inside and out, and start thinking about something other than themselves and their wants. You catch more flies with sugar than salt. Be nicer and think before you speak, and be thorough in your ideas. It's a simple idea.

    But they need to do better, especially with content

    Did the point of "Don't be vague and specifially explain all detail" go that far over that head of yours? "Do better content" Ok, give them a place to start.
    You really can’t be that myopic and stubborn to say “explain how we need more content”. They’ve literally released nothing new since launch, which is pretty scary considering we started off with a meager 5 GAME MODES. I’m sure you must be happy enough with 2 skins and a recycled map as “seasonal” content. Ben literally said the other day that no heroes were ultimately finished despite so far having 6 months of development time. If this game wasn’t marketed as a ‘live-service” with frequent content updates/fixes then none of our complaining would be justified. EA is the most incompetent publisher in the industry, and deserve every ounce of hate they get for this game. Not only did they bundle its launch, but they extracted all resources from a AAA Star Wars game that many fans were still holding out hope for - plus they completely lied on their end about having a ‘live-service’ model. Sure the game is fun, there’s no denying that, but EA is treating it like an absolute afterthought. It’s sad that publishers nowadays are following the trend of making an incomplete game at launch with a ‘live-service’ guarantee funded by MTX, only to abandon the game a month later with no repercussions...

    Reading comprehension wasn't your strong suit was it? "Explain how" isn't my point, kiddo, it's "explain what." Not to mention this was clearly defined from multiple sources at multiple times this was part ONE of the Han Solo season, and that part TWO will be coming in June. It's not rocket science, it's just keeping up with news.
  • bfloo
    16587 posts Member
    Your best bet is to make your own game ;)
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