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An Update on the Matchmaking Live Test

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  • lok
    952 posts Member
    edited June 20
    The game needs battle log of sorts,period.
    It would fix balance,people would have servers with people in it,i really do not understand why use a system that was not great and then use it again when battle log was and is great.
    If it aint broke don`t fix it kinda thing.The amount of people that would be all for this would have to be more than less.For the fans and players i thought.i`ll still play it no matter what but you could polish this gem and make it shine so much more.

  • Has this been turned back on? Have just p[layed 3 rounds of star fighter assaulkt in the loast hour and at the end of each round, I wind up ion a lobby with about 4 people when we finished the round with full teams on each side. Have had to wait for tgeams to re-fill.
    IF YOU HAVE thanks for not telling us, and it is still not working!
  • New_Roosterman
    360 posts Member
    edited June 20
    Reason I suspect it has been re-enabled is what I noticed as an on-screen message at the end of each round (I've circled it in red) -

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    Everytime the round I was in we would finish with nigh on full teams and ecah time wind up in lobbies with only 40% of people needed to continue. Hard to beleive people would quit that fgast, including people on a winning team or teams near evenly matched.
  • Royazeee
    238 posts Member
    edited June 20
    3 matches in a row with the light side in HS...can’t seem to change side
  • So I just experienced the new matchmaking system personally and I can say that I really don't like the new mechanism at all. After match ends there is no 60 second countdown to new map and no Continue button, only buttons available are Matchmake and Quit, if you do nothing matchmaking starts anyway. No problem so far. The problem starts when the matchmaking begins because it takes about two minutes and then you end up in almost empty lobby with 4-6 people and you are stuck waiting for the lobby to fill up so instead of waiting 60 seconds for next round it usually takes 5x more. Way to mess up already long wainting times. I did not like the old system but this new one is worse. In the old system you could just quit and try find 3-4 another lobbies in the same time the new system takes to do single matchmake.
  • What exactly is the difference from the first test?
  • New_Roosterman
    360 posts Member
    edited June 20
    So I played Heroes v Villains on Kashyyk on my local server (Australia). At end of the secojnd part of the round, won by the Dark side with 1 ticket left. The matchmaking then dumped me and 2 others in an empty lobby. It took us 5 minutes to re-fill and continue the next round, which was Kessel.
    So after Kessel finished, this was how the board stood at the end of the 2nd fight on that map -
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    This is what I was left with after the "matchmaking" -
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    Do you people delight in not listening? we told you this blasted thing doesn't work as it dumps you in empty lobbies.
    NOTING HAS CHANGED. IT IS MORE ANNOYING THAN ANYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
    PLEASE TURN THIS OFF AND LEAVE IT OFF, OTHERWISE YOU WILL KILL THIS GAME STONE DEAD VERY QUICK. NO ONE WANTS TO SIT IN EMPTY LOBBIES!


  • massika
    209 posts Member
    Turn off this matchmaking seriously, heroshowdown i played 1 match and i couldnt find another server, i joined only empty server or "impossible to find a match", galactic assault again kicked out from the server to join another that was empty, and the balance it's a dream.
  • New_Roosterman
    360 posts Member
    edited June 20
    As I have said ad nauseum, with the limited population and the constantly changing variables in a match, you cannot implement a "matchmaking" system like you are attempting as it does not lead to more balanced teams, and more often than not just dumps people into empty lobbies.
    I am just more annoyed, let alone angry, DICE and EA that you re-enabled this and did not have the courtesy to announce it. I am tired of being a guinea pig.
    Fact is this change just makes me less inclined to play this game. Fat chance I will spend any money on crystals whilst you pull this rubbish.
  • AxeWin
    42 posts Member
    edited June 20
    Matchmake button makes its comeback again turns game unplayable what the heck why did you turn this s... back on.

    I cannot play Strike anymore just 3-4 player lobbies after all matches!!!!!!

    I guess EA & DICE do not play their own game Online! Forget Internal testing.

    Its like the definition of insane.. doing same mistake over and over again.
  • get rid of this matchmaking setup!!! I can only play one match for one side and then I get moved to a server that is empty each time!!!!!!!!! Have some real developers work on this stuff and not interns. This has been going on for the past 2 hours for me. One match and then moved to empty server.
  • Whatever idea you're trying to make work, it isn't working at all...

    Spending 15 to 20 minutes between matches/finding new lobbies is ridiculous... If I'm going to invest my time in your game (which I have done daily since launch), I don't want to waste 50% of that time waiting in lobbies.

    And please, do not give us (the players) the ability to decide if match making is required. There's always someone that hits the button after a well balanced match. Maybe they're rubbish at the game and didn't do well, maybe they think they're good, but got melted too many times, maybe they just want to test it or maybe they're just jerks... none of these are valid reasons to matchmake though.
    Tonight we played a perfectly balanced game on Naboo... final phase went into lengthy OT and was a great game no matter who won... but then someone had to hit the ***** button I'm back to waiting in a lobby that never filled up and everyone eventually left.

    The heavy exploding glitch was horrible... but I'd take that back in a heartbeat if it meant we didn't have to get this match making enhancement... at least I'd be able to play the game rather than sit in an empty lobby

    If you can't automate the matchmaking - then don't do it. Don't waste any more time and just focus on new content.
    Or if you HAVE to give players access to it - then only give the top 5 players from each team the option to hit match make... and majority vote wins.
  • Devlin21
    8089 posts Member
    Still being put with level 1 players.

    Played yavin twice, went back to yavin.
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  • Saw matchmaking for first time on extraction (PS4 UK).
    Didn't get empty lobbies, but had 1 round really well matched - we lost, but barely...
    It was a really enjoyable match, and I thought they've finally cracked it.
    ...and then someone must have pressed the button because I ended up in a different set of players.

    That included one or two I recognised from the previous match, but now on same side as me, instead of opposite.
    But the second match was unbalanced and we were slaughtered.

    The same thing happened on 2 more rounds and each time seemed to get worse: different set of players, lost every one by increasing margins, and by the third round I ended up in a match where I scored a grand total of 0 kills, due to being utterly outclassed (I'm not talking levels or anything, I mean the opposing players were obviously highly skilled, knew all the right places to hide, and working as a team, etc).

    I really want matchmaking to work - I've been one of the ones shouting loudly about it for months, but it's obviously not working as intended at the moment.
    Hope you work out how to get it right soon, before it gets shouted down again.
  • Crabodin
    12 posts Member
    edited June 20
    I was able to play just fine yesterday and today i get empty lobbies every time and cant find another game. Cant find another game and insta-empty lobbies in Galactic Assault. Are you f serious?!
  • Walter72
    140 posts Member
    Still being put with level 1 players.

    Played yavin twice, went back to yavin.

    It has nothing to do with a troopers level. I don't know what part of that people don't understand.
  • Kerle
    427 posts Member
    Guys, this is a feedback thread for a change to the game everyone has asked for. Now DICE is actually working on it and trys to solve the problem - maybe you should stay polite.

    They work on a complicated problem, further issues while trying to fix it were predictable.
    Getting tempered and going harsh on the Devs wont solve anything, it'll just lead to less communication and frustration on both sides.
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  • Billkwando
    811 posts Member
    edited June 20
    Sanga wrote: »
    Thanks for the update! Bar the obvious problem of getting occasionally placed into empty lobbies, I really enjoyed the closer games.

    Looking forward to the next matchmake day! B)

    I've had some awesome, very close HvV games lately and it's been super fun. I was wondering how I was getting so lucky.

    Edit: Apparently, after reading the thread fully, it really was just luck, as I haven't seen this button folks are referring to.

    I HAVE been having issues while playing in a party. My friend sees the MVP screen, like normal, but I see a screen saying the match has ended and no results available, as if I had just joined as it ended, when I was there the whole time...
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  • stevenomes
    4602 posts Member
    I can confirm the empty lobbies in HS mode. between this, broken HS challenge not registering and the (even worse) black screen issue upon quitting after a game, I've stopped playing HS mode. I had to restart the game 3 times in a row after quitting HS with empty lobby then getting the black screen loading loop. its just not worth this much hassle to deal with. as I am ready to restart the game I see God of War right next to it and Dark Souls Remastered in the playstation menu. I have moved to those instead when I have to restart totally.

    Regards
  • valeri0706
    615 posts Member
    edited June 20
    And the new Matchmaking is back... Please remove it because it's seriously broken!

    I just played 2 games on Extraction and after each I got thrown out of the lobby and dumped into one that never filled! In the end I simply quit.

    What is going on?!
  • Devlin21
    8089 posts Member
    Walter72 wrote: »
    Still being put with level 1 players.

    Played yavin twice, went back to yavin.

    It has nothing to do with a troopers level. I don't know what part of that people don't understand.

    Has a lot to do with it.

    They don't know what to do, they have he base weapons no starcards while the other team has all higher level players.


    It's ridiculous.
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  • Sanga wrote: »
    Thanks for the update! Bar the obvious problem of getting occasionally placed into empty lobbies, I really enjoyed the closer games.

    Looking forward to the next matchmake day! B)

    The occasion thing is not happening. it is happening after each match. Sick of it!
  • This 'success' post does not accurately reflect the experiences of many feedback posters... Thanks for trying but don't oversell things as you loose credibility

    It worked really well for me, maybe you are the 1%?

    Maybe you are the 1%, because I have been playing for the past 6 hours and everybody on each game has been complaining and making a threat to stop playing this game and go to another developer game.
  • Relikk
    96 posts Member
    edited June 20
    This still isn't working. Every time it goes to matchmaking after a match has finished it finds absolutely nothing and ends up going back to the main menu.
  • So I switched servers from one of the US servers to the German Server. Played out the Unkown Regions map in Starfighter Assault. After the round (having played first as the First Order and then as the Resistance, following is how the end of the round scoreboard looked -

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    So we proceed to the D'qar map. This is how many people were in thje lobby with me to start the next round -

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    So, to me it looks like -

    1. You have turned matchmaking back on and not told us.
    2. It is still leaving people in empty lobbies after each round.
    3. It STILL does not work.

    TURN THIS **** OFF AS IT IS RUINING THE GAME!!!!!!!!

    You are the man!!! Turn if off! Turn if off! Turn if off! Turn if off! Turn if off! Turn if off!
  • Long time lurker here, but been playing since pre-order on PS4. I wouldn't normally signup just to have a rant but seriously, this matchmaking isn't working. Every time it's been enabled I end up being moved, sometimes to a decent server but more often than not to an empty one.

    In the modes I usually play (Strike & Extraction) you usually want to stay in the same teams even if the opposition won, to have the chance to make it even...

    Today it even split a group I was in (me + 1 other), my friend went into a match and my progress bar stuck on 100% (he says the match he was in was full up).

    Please, stop listening to the minority who said it was broken - it wasn't. It wasn't perfect, but it was better than this rubbish.
    UK PS4 Playing mostly Strike and Extraction
  • stevenomes
    4602 posts Member
    the worst part is if you quit due to being in empty lobby you run the risk of black screen loading loop. the only solution I've found is to restart bf app. how many times do restart before you decide it's just not worth the hassle.
  • Sniffy44
    267 posts Member
    i think the problem is they're trying to redistribute players to other games and that doesnt work very well compared to just shuffling the existing players from the last game, since they are all immediately available to play the next one.
  • Been waiting since 8:40am PST. Still can’t get in.
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  • porc44
    142 posts Member
    edited June 20
    The matchmaking dont work, all it does it kick of my game and stay forever in searching mode.
    please, can you put on hold this matchmaking device, it does nothing beside make me going in search for any mode whatoever after either i win or lose a game.
  • Why Why Why Why Why Why!!!???!!!??? This matchmaking is NOT working! Here we are back into the whole "dump everyone into new empty rooms" thing. And even if you are are fortunate enough to land in a room that does eventually fill up, there is NO balance acheived. I've gone from good, full, well-balanced rooms into rooms where one or other team gets absolutely steam-rolled.
    And it seems to make absolutely no difference whatsoever if I push the "matchmake" button. The exact same thing happens either way. So what is the point of the button, and Why won't EA give more information about what that button is supposed to accomplish? Do we push the button or not?
  • On the flip side. I got to spend some time in arcade today and practiced walking/running headshots.

    For no reward whatsoever. Playing arcade really sucks.
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  • This is horrible, worse than what we had. Ending up in half full lobbies which leaves you to wait for the lobbies to fills up or have to quit to search for new game cos everyone starts leaving when it dont fills up. Talking about waiting, it takes longer before next game starts. Oh, sometimes you just gets kicked to the start menu after the game finnished. Redo and make it work or just go back to what ever joke we had before.
  • I am normally very positive about this game and have put quite a few hours into it. But please. Just make it stop. I don't know what was working in your internal tests, but there is nothing positive about this matchmaking process.

    I'm not a programmer and I'm sure there's a reason you can't just do team shuffle like you did in BF15. But every time you try to implement a matchmaking change it is a complete disaster. I would rather you do nothing. Just please put whatever you're doing now out of its misery.
  • porc44
    142 posts Member
    It start to really put me on my nerve, just shuffle the team, nothing more, dont send us in empty lobby or searching mode forever.
  • Hero Showdown seems good. Keeps the same random teammate so you can get in a rhythm, and we were playing the same opponents except when they quit. I don’t like the matchmake button though, because I believe if you put a button in front of anybody they will push it. Even when not needed.

    Btw, I’m on Xbox.

    In GA I was first put into a game on yavin that ended 10 seconds after I got in, on the first phase. Next game was kamino, we won straight through but went to third phase. Competition was easier than normal, came in third overall and got 2 heroes. Next game, Kamino again, Still easier competition, we lost on phase 2.

    Game 3, Endor, blowout, we got beat, phase 1. I got second on our team. I’m doing much better individually but don’t know if the games are better matched. Fun to dominate a bit against lower competition though. Lol. No empty lobbies or waiting for me today though.

    Not sure how some of you guys are having such major issues though. Anyway make from that what you will, that was my experience so fsr today.
  • stevenomes
    4602 posts Member
    Now, matters are worse.
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  • Kerle wrote: »
    Guys, this is a feedback thread for a change to the game everyone has asked for. Now DICE is actually working on it and trys to solve the problem - maybe you should stay polite.

    They work on a complicated problem, further issues while trying to fix it were predictable.
    Getting tempered and going harsh on the Devs wont solve anything, it'll just lead to less communication and frustration on both sides.

    I understand what you're saying, but it was very frustrating to see this matchmaking ruining many players's experiences, watching lots of people reporting in the previous thread how bad it was from the user's perspective across all modes, and then having to read "it performed well".

    I know matchmaking is a complex thing and they have plenty of data we don't. But it seems like absolutely no one there even plays the game enough to understand our perspective. Data is very important to decision making, but user experience is just as important, as it lets one understand some non-quantitative, intangible aspects of the experience that are vital for the user in general. Which they seem to be missing by a lot.

    I'm very afraid that they implement some new method that'll make metrics look so beautiful to them, but with a frustrating experience on our end that won't appear in the form of data.
  • Zirius
    109 posts Member
    edited June 20
    Got in game today after a few days break and I had only great balanced matches, no empty lobby problem or waiting much finding a game. Played mostly GA and some extraction. PC
  • Netero
    122 posts Member
    Seems to work but it takes a lot to take effect and makes you play the same maps over and over.
  • Jbstiner
    2635 posts Member
    danilojbg wrote: »
    Kerle wrote: »
    Guys, this is a feedback thread for a change to the game everyone has asked for. Now DICE is actually working on it and trys to solve the problem - maybe you should stay polite.

    They work on a complicated problem, further issues while trying to fix it were predictable.
    Getting tempered and going harsh on the Devs wont solve anything, it'll just lead to less communication and frustration on both sides.

    I understand what you're saying, but it was very frustrating to see this matchmaking ruining many players's experiences, watching lots of people reporting in the previous thread how bad it was from the user's perspective across all modes, and then having to read "it performed well".

    I know matchmaking is a complex thing and they have plenty of data we don't. But it seems like absolutely no one there even plays the game enough to understand our perspective. Data is very important to decision making, but user experience is just as important, as it lets one understand some non-quantitative, intangible aspects of the experience that are vital for the user in general. Which they seem to be missing by a lot.

    I'm very afraid that they implement some new method that'll make metrics look so beautiful to them, but with a frustrating experience on our end that won't appear in the form of data.

    And lest we forget, they ignored this issue for SIX months (the game was out for 7) and instead focused on things like holograms...
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  • Seems to me the problem with this system is as follows:
    1. It creates new lobbies when there aren't enough players to fill those lobbies.
    2. It does not properly prioritize filling those lobbies. For curiosity, after being dumped into an empty lobby, I went and did housework until I heard the game start. It was about 20 minutes. That's ridiculous.
    3. When a lobby eventually does get filled, there seems to be little rhyme or reason WHICH players get put into the lobby, so we end up with unbalanced games. If there is a metric to how they are filling the games, it is really not clear, as the problem this was supposed to solve is not being solved.
    4. It ignores the fact that some lobbies are already well-balanced, and it splits the players all away from each other anyway.
    5. Map rotation seems to have become more random, which means some maps will be missed for a long time for some players, while they play on other maps repeatedly. This is even more true when you realize that some players have no choice but to leave because they are being held in empty lobbies for so long.

    And a question, I haven't explored this myself yet, is anyone being split up from a friend they were playing with? This was a problem the last time they tried this matchmaking. Just wondering if they addressed it before I start going thru the trouble of trying to play with a friend.
  • AxeWin
    42 posts Member
    edited June 20
    Just tried it again on Strike its still putting me in half empty servers....that never fill up

    "Searching for STRIKE"

    gg

    ps: cannot even chat after match on pc you just get put in new empty server
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