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Skowsa
316 posts Member
If I look on the first page right now I can see around 6 or 7 Nerf threads. Go through a few more pages and I will be close to around 20.

I understand that updates to the game change the game play and some things have just seemed “broken” to some people from the start. I also understand that some cards may seem OP and some classes/reinforcements/heroes can be misused in certain situations.

My question is what motivates people to ask for the Nerf?

Note: I am not saying there threads are right or wrong. I am not talking about specific threads or cards. I am just curious.
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  • People who can’t adjust or simply are below par
  • Han_Spinel
    1102 posts Member
    Han_Spinel wrote: »
    Honest answer?

    Most of them are new to the game or simply don’t understand how to overcome issues they run into/don’t know the game well enough yet. It’s a mix of that, or just not caring enough to become better, and taking the easy route and just asking for nerfs.

    Never seen me make a post on nerfs. But I will always touch on adjustments needed/speak out against what’s not needed. Opinions etc. Skill levels vary and so on & so forth.


    But this is just my opinion, from my experience/what I’ve seen here on the forums of over 3+ years.

    Agree with Dash.

    My own opinion: of the Nerf threads I’ve read (which has been a lot), I personally feel a large portion are driven by the person’s reluctance or inability to adjust one’s gameplay regarding a newly encountered component/tactic of the game/opponent. So whether that’s related to a player’s inexperience or own selfishness, I do not know.

    Very true indeed.

    Don’t know if you remember, but a while back I made a post about “What if in game accounts were linked to forum accounts stats wise”. As in it would show time played, KD ratio etc.

    If that was available to view by clicking on someone’s profile to see their page of stats, it would help deter a lot of “inability” to adjust to in game mechanic “Nerf posts” real fast.

    Example: “Nerf Lightsaber Heroes Post” , then we click on the posters profile, and see that he/she has 18 hours played online, with a MP rank of 16.

    Helps cut to the chase.

    Just saying. :wink:

    Ha! I suppose this will never happen in ongoing efforts to deter a Forum Judgement Day :D
    I don’t miss the K/D threads and rock throwing contests, but I must confess that I do miss the companion app and stat tracking a bit.

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  • Because.

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  • Because.

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    Haha, that’s good. Also, nerf all heroes.
  • Shinjuku
    1760 posts Member
    Why are there so many Nerf threads?

    Long story short, it's because there's a lot of hot flaming garbage players with selfish intentions. Plain and simple. For some odd reason, It's become a trend on here to spam nerf threads. It's quite sad really because it detracts from other threads that are actually more useful and interesting. Such a shame.
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  • Octavarius
    1107 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    Too many people who are not prepared to work hard at something and persevere to overcome adversity. Sadly for them if they face real life in the same manner then they will never amount to much and no doubt will complain endlessly about that too!
  • because theyre kids who instantly start crying after losing a game
  • DrX2345
    2888 posts Member
    Han_Spinel wrote: »
    Honest answer?

    Most of them are new to the game or simply don’t understand how to overcome issues they run into/don’t know the game well enough yet. It’s a mix of that, or just not caring enough to become better, and taking the easy route and just asking for nerfs.

    Never seen me make a post on nerfs. But I will always touch on adjustments needed/speak out against what’s not needed. Opinions etc. Skill levels vary and so on & so forth.


    But this is just my opinion, from my experience/what I’ve seen here on the forums of over 3+ years.

    Agree with Dash.

    My own opinion: of the Nerf threads I’ve read (which has been a lot), I personally feel a large portion are driven by the person’s reluctance or inability to adjust one’s gameplay regarding a newly encountered component/tactic of the game/opponent. So whether that’s related to a player’s inexperience or own selfishness, I do not know.
    Definitely this. Apart from some things (eg the Blurrg at launch, I guess the Officer's BP gain, Palaptine's attacks through walls, and ok, the Ion Shot right now is a little too good), most 'nerf this' threads are people who died a few times to something and instead of adapting to accomodate this factor in their gameplay, they just come and complain (and inevitably get roasted ha). It's stuff like a few months ago, there seemed to be a bunch of 'a Wookiees are op because they can roll during Overload' threads. Like, what? I don't even see how that gives you much of an advantage tbh. If I've got Overload active, I'm not going to roll really. Crouch, maybe, but not roll.
    OOM19 wrote: »

    Imagine it

    A horde of Bipedal Millennium Falcons with cheeseburgers for legs
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  • Because everyone grinds for heroes and then cry when they get killed.
  • Evazan127
    8105 posts Member
    Why is it a bad thing to want good balance?

    Nerf has become such a trite and controversial word.
  • EvazanJr wrote: »
    Why is it a bad thing to want good balance?

    Nerf has become such a trite and controversial word.

    Because people these days think they deserve anything that they want
    But like life in general you have to work for what you have

    Basically some people just want the easy road
    There the nerf herders :D
  • DrX2345
    2888 posts Member
    EvazanJr wrote: »
    Why is it a bad thing to want good balance?

    Nerf has become such a trite and controversial word.
    It's one thing wanting good balance - it's another asking for something to be nerfed because it killed you a couple times and you don't want to adapt your play to counter it. For example, there's currently a thread titled 'Nerf Infantry Turret', the text of which simply says, "It's OP." That's it. Nothing else, last time I checked the poster hadn't responded to any of the replies (in fairness there's a fair few 'Git Gud's but that's understandable). So it's fairly obvious that the poster got killed a coup,e of times and instead of being more careful, or just accepting that he was killed by something because he wouldn't adapt, he's posted a useless message on an Internet forum.
    OOM19 wrote: »

    Imagine it

    A horde of Bipedal Millennium Falcons with cheeseburgers for legs
    If there seems to be random words or phrases in my post that don't make sense, blame Autocorrect.
    #COOMCAIBDJF
  • Because the game struggles with balance.
  • Because people like to complain online
  • Because the game struggles with balance.

    That's probably the closest correct answer
    The game rewards people playing with better weapons and cards
    But people just beginning its like a unfair game against the odds of weapons
    Then there's the full on warrior player's that make it hell for noobs
    That's why I'm starting to think small modes like extraction should have standard weapons for all players to use
    Skill over firepower
    GA and soon Conquest should be the all in mode
  • DrX2345
    2888 posts Member
    Because the game struggles with balance.

    That's probably the closest correct answer
    The game rewards people playing with better weapons and cards
    But people just beginning its like a unfair game against the odds of weapons
    Then there's the full on warrior player's that make it **** for noobs
    That's why I'm starting to think small modes like extraction should have standard weapons for all players to use
    Skill over firepower
    GA and soon Conquest should be the all in mode
    The weapons don't make that much of a difference really, most have disadvantages. For example the CR-2 is obviously very good at short range but at longer ranges it can easily be countered with accurate shots, whereas the standard Assault rifle is pretty good all round - decent RoF, damage and range. A good player should be able to do well with pretty much any weapon.
    OOM19 wrote: »

    Imagine it

    A horde of Bipedal Millennium Falcons with cheeseburgers for legs
    If there seems to be random words or phrases in my post that don't make sense, blame Autocorrect.
    #COOMCAIBDJF
  • DrX2345 wrote: »
    Because the game struggles with balance.

    That's probably the closest correct answer
    The game rewards people playing with better weapons and cards
    But people just beginning its like a unfair game against the odds of weapons
    Then there's the full on warrior player's that make it **** for noobs
    That's why I'm starting to think small modes like extraction should have standard weapons for all players to use
    Skill over firepower
    GA and soon Conquest should be the all in mode
    The weapons don't make that much of a difference really, most have disadvantages. For example the CR-2 is obviously very good at short range but at longer ranges it can easily be countered with accurate shots, whereas the standard Assault rifle is pretty good all round - decent RoF, damage and range. A good player should be able to do well with pretty much any weapon.

    Lol. The standard weapons are really awful.
  • The weapons don't worry me and they shouldn't worry most of the BF2 veterans
    I know a few people who started this game a couple of weeks ago and quit because of players having supierer firepower and equipment
    As i said doesn't worry me
    I'm just stating a fact for beginners
  • How about we change up the progression model. It would work like this. New players would start at rank 50 with all classes maxed with all purple cards and all weapons and attachments unlocked. Then as you earn XP your rank goes DOWN and so does the level of your unit. Weapons and star cards will become locked or set to lower levels as you pass the relevant threshold until the real veteran players reach rank 1 with only the base weapons.

    Automatic nerfing. Fixes anything OP like officer's presence and the ion torpedo in time and leads to balance in the Force.

    Sound like a good idea? /s
  • Because people don't take the time or effort to learn how to counter op items like the infantry turret or the Specialist melee or the Cantina Band.

    Welcome to EA's Star Wars Nerffront II. Better than the first one with even more nerf.
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  • Deanna_Tamura
    317 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    I think it's simply how a lot of people think these days, run into a obstacle or some sort of challenge and they not try to overcome it by trying again and again till they learned a good strategy, but instead want circumstances changed for them to get past it easily.

    That's what we get for telling anyone from a young age that they are so awesome even if they are not good at something. " Oh you poor thing you have trouble at school, the school is doing something wrong" god forbid telling them to work harder and focus.
  • Because weapons are op
    Heroes are op
    Campaign is op
    Vehicles are op
    Abilities are op
    Grevious is op
    Dengar is op
    This game is so op even content that isn't out yet or announced yet is already op.
  • Alex64
    7019 posts Member
    Just imagine the videogames in the future, people should ask first "Can I shoot you and send you to respawn?"
  • Saber91
    1021 posts Member
    because the game is unbalanced. but the sheep like it that way unfortunately.
  • This thread should be nerfed
  • Saber91
    1021 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    I think it's simply how a lot of people think these days, run into a obstacle or some sort of challenge and they not try to overcome it by trying again and again till they learned a good strategy, but instead want circumstances changed for them to get past it easily.

    That's what we get for telling anyone from a young age that they are so awesome even if they are not good at something. " Oh you poor thing you have trouble at school, the school is doing something wrong" god forbid telling them to work harder and focus.

    thats not it at all. you cant just generalize like that.

    im someone who wants starfighters to be 50% faster. however when i made that thread i got several people saying "well then itll be too fast and harder to fly and youll crash into things". to which i responded: in the movies, the starfighters move A LOT faster than in this game, and if you keep playing youll master the starfighter and dogfighting will be a lot better. we shouldnt have to castrate the star wars experience so its easier to do things.

    im someone who uses assault class with the default weapons. because it feels right. is it harder? yeah the default weapons arent as good long range as say the EL rifle, but i still like the look and sound of the defaults, and the more i use it i get better with it.

    explosive spam, infantry turrets that get kills FOR you, the officer classes cheesy starcards, the more abundance of officer classes on the field instead of proper infantry. these are all things that should not exist. not because theyre "obstacles to overcome" but because they ruin what could otherwise be a fun star wars experience.

    its all about balance AND immersion. the people who dont want these things gone dont care about immersion, they just want their top of the leaderboards MLG stats.
  • Deanna_Tamura
    317 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    Saber91 wrote: »
    I think it's simply how a lot of people think these days, run into a obstacle or some sort of challenge and they not try to overcome it by trying again and again till they learned a good strategy, but instead want circumstances changed for them to get past it easily.

    That's what we get for telling anyone from a young age that they are so awesome even if they are not good at something. " Oh you poor thing you have trouble at school, the school is doing something wrong" god forbid telling them to work harder and focus.

    thats not it at all. you cant just generalize like that.

    im someone who wants starfighters to be 50% faster. however when i made that thread i got several people saying "well then itll be too fast and harder to fly and youll crash into things". to which i responded: in the movies, the starfighters move A LOT faster than in this game, and if you keep playing youll master the starfighter and dogfighting will be a lot better. we shouldnt have to castrate the star wars experience so its easier to do things.

    im someone who uses assault class with the default weapons. because it feels right. is it harder? yeah the default weapons arent as good long range as say the EL rifle, but i still like the look and sound of the defaults, and the more i use it i get better with it.

    explosive spam, infantry turrets that get kills FOR you, the officer classes cheesy starcards, the more abundance of officer classes on the field instead of proper infantry. these are all things that should not exist. not because theyre "obstacles to overcome" but because they ruin what could otherwise be a fun star wars experience.

    its all about balance AND immersion. the people who dont want these things gone dont care about immersion, they just want their top of the leaderboards MLG stats.

    That might be you, but l was referring to the OP and when you look at forum you will see that 80% or more of the Nerf threads have not valid behind them, it's just people whining to have things toned down to their level rather then improving themselves.

    Just look at the latest Palapatine Nerf thread " Cut his range and jumping height down to 50% he is so OP" that is someone whining to have things their way, anyone who thinks objectively about it will see that such a extreme nerf would make him useless, he would need to get right on top of an enemy and any saber hero would just cut him in half.
  • bfloo
    14985 posts Member
    The weapons don't worry me and they shouldn't worry most of the BF2 veterans
    I know a few people who started this game a couple of weeks ago and quit because of players having supierer firepower and equipment
    As i said doesn't worry me
    I'm just stating a fact for beginners

    This happens in every shooter now.
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  • Mothm6n66
    26 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    Han_Spinel wrote: »
    Honest answer?

    Most of them are new to the game or simply don’t understand how to overcome issues they run into/don’t know the game well enough yet. It’s a mix of that, or just not caring enough to become better, and taking the easy route and just asking for nerfs.

    Never seen me make a post on nerfs. But I will always touch on adjustments needed/speak out against what’s not needed. Opinions etc. Skill levels vary and so on & so forth.


    But this is just my opinion, from my experience/what I’ve seen here on the forums of over 3+ years.

    Agree with Dash.

    My own opinion: of the Nerf threads I’ve read (which has been a lot), I personally feel a large portion are driven by the person’s reluctance or inability to adjust one’s gameplay regarding a newly encountered component/tactic of the game/opponent. So whether that’s related to a player’s inexperience or own selfishness, I do not know.

    I agree with both of you, the game feels pretty balanced and based on your gamer skills, how much you play and improve those skills, are always what comes first. Then you have the skills you unlock in game that do make your character better, and there's no denying that. So if you don't sit there and play the game like the rest of us do, yea, just like EVERY CALL OF DUTY, your character isn't gonna develop the upgrades players who play a lot have, by itself.

    These people who want nerfing so hard that it isn't fair to those who play these games a lot and got good from purely playing and getting better, should play Destiny 2, where everything is nerfed so hard that the guy who made Destiny, who has revealed that he sucks at it, can play it. I mean you can't act like this isn't a competitive online shooter people lmao!

    And last but not least the people who sit back and hide around corners, the same people who when you're playing any objective based game, aren't anywhere near the objective, not playing it, not working as a team, not doing anything but trying to get kills in NOT BLAST, opinions aren't valid because they aren't even playing the game they're playing. It's pretty sad.

    Not to be rude, but you gotta compete in a competitive world. The real life workplace you kids haven't starting working at yet doesn't nerf it's workload on you, and war sure as balls does not nerf bullets to try and help YOU live...
  • Mothm6n66
    26 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    I love looking at the whiny comments in this thread, have you guys checked out what these little kids are saying? Lol, oh I need like 10 crying laughing faces on here. Sounds like they've just had life handed to them, bunch of whiny turds don't even know anything about life cuz all they do is whine. You know they're little whiny kids too cuz they just get mad and say OP a lot on a game that's literally got 2 OP weapons, and unlike all these kids that need cussed out and smacked, I'm trying to get those weapons rather than whining like a... You know. I've caused enough trouble for EA... But to see them doing the right thing, and now all these little kids think they can whine about NERFING! Like go back to Destiny you little brats, where everything is nerfed so hard, you might as well just make it a nerf gun video game.

    The real and actual only issue, is lack of content thereof.

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  • Octavarius wrote: »
    Too many people who are not prepared to work hard at something and persevere to overcome adversity. Sadly for them if they face real life in the same manner then they will never amount to much and no doubt will complain endlessly about that too!

    Truth! Take your licks like a man and keep at it!

    And don't B***TH when the sniper gets a lucky head shot. Respawn and keep going...
  • It's because people who sit and try to rack up kills and but play the objective are whiney because they lose constantly
  • Requests for nerfs and buffs are justified and necessary. However, some players (typically new or less experienced) think something is good or bad due to things like lack situational awareness and improper usage.

    Forums are a place for feedback and suggestions, no matter how logical or irrational they may sound. It's all subjective.
  • Because they run into rooms get killed by thermal grenades 3 times in a row and are like we'll, that's op as I didn't have a chance. They are new don't know how to counter certain things or leave their cranium exposed for a second to long loads of reasons that end with them dying more than killing so it needs a nerf, unknown to them they are hurting themselves in the long run when they go to use the thing they screamed to nerf and it's then poop by the time they get to use it
  • Because people get salty when they die. And when they look at whatever kills them, the salt is redirected at that obiect, meaning that weapon/ability/vehicle needs a nerf.
  • Jello770
    5592 posts Member
    Because...
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  • People who can’t adjust or simply are below par

    My point exactly. And I would say the same to anyone who begged for an ion-turret buff. I got dual proton torpedoes just for those guys the moment I see them plant one.
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  • bfloo
    14985 posts Member
    Dannyboi82 wrote: »
    Because they run into rooms get killed by thermal grenades 3 times in a row and are like we'll, that's op as I didn't have a chance. They are new don't know how to counter certain things or leave their cranium exposed for a second to long loads of reasons that end with them dying more than killing so it needs a nerf, unknown to them they are hurting themselves in the long run when they go to use the thing they screamed to nerf and it's then poop by the time they get to use it

    It is fun to sit back and watch these people die the same way over and over again.

    It makes me miss the laugh emote.
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  • Everyone needs to sit back and have a chill pill :)
    Lets all calm down and reload at the launch of clone wars ;)
  • Some people just want to watch the world nerf...
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  • Everyone needs to sit back and have a chill pill :)
    Lets all calm down and reload at the launch of clone wars ;)

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  • If the game didn’t tell you what class and weapon killed you,the nerf threads would disappear. If it just told you the health and username only it would help.
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  • Important_info101
    968 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    But Officer class nerfs are right... #OfficerOP
    My priority list:

    1. Fix Split screen mode bugs
    2. Fix bugs
    3. Bigger play area for Duel mode
    4. More love for Starfighter modes
    5. First Person only mode
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