Saber combat changes in next patch- F8RGE
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If the block mechanic were better, it would be more like this:
Striking into block shouldn’t stagger you imo
Timing the block perfectly (small window) could cause a stagger.
That way there’d be free flowing combat.
Adjusting stamina is important in this regard too- Maybe holding block could drain stamina, getting the block hit 2-3 will drain all stamina and break block.
We could go further and add a block break mechanic in these 2 ways too:
1. Heavy strike/blast- using the empty Δ/Y input we can have heavy attacks to break block. Some examples:
Han Solo- Lucky shot like BF2015
Boba Fett- Flamethrower like BF2015
Luke Skywalker- Heavy strike
Darth Vader- like Rogue One
2. Saber attack directionality:
Stab (straight strike)- strike while stationary
Hack (vertical strike)- strike while moving forward or backward
Slash (horizontal strike)- strike while moving left or right
Then 2-3 slashes could open the block to a hack or stab and vice versa.
If the block mechanic were better, it would be more like this:
Striking into block shouldn’t stagger you imo
Timing the block perfectly (small window) could cause a stagger.
That way there’d be free flowing combat.
Adjusting stamina is important in this regard too- Maybe holding block could drain stamina, getting the block hit 2-3 will drain all stamina and break block.
We could go further and add a block break mechanic in these 2 ways too:
1. Heavy strike/blast- using the empty Δ/Y input we can have heavy attacks to break block. Some examples:
Han Solo- Lucky shot like BF2015
Boba Fett- Flamethrower like BF2015
Luke Skywalker- Heavy strike
Darth Vader- like Rogue One
2. Saber attack directionality:
Stab (straight strike)- strike while stationary
Hack (vertical strike)- strike while moving forward or backward
Slash (horizontal strike)- strike while moving left or right
Then 2-3 slashes could open the block to a hack or stab and vice versa.
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Hope there's good info about the planned reworked lightsaber combat mechanic.
In regards to me, no I don't like spam in either direction. I want balance.
There should be more stamina drain for attacks.
If the lunges were animated better and were less linear it would be even better.
Anything is good at this point but I F8RGE specifically referenced stamina changes.
I hope heavy attacks are included as well. I read earlier that this was finished already or something but it wasn't included.
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I thought he said combat will be reworked. A simple stamina change won't change a thing.
Or they are doing it in stages. First stage stamina management, second stage blocking etc...
All he said in reddit is stamina changes and heroes having different attributes. Anyways, the changes should be detailed on today's Transmission so it's just a matter of hours until we know for sure.
Wait, did he really say heroes would have "different attributes"?
Interesting...
"It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
Here is the original comment thread
Combat is being reworked but so far it seems to be mainly stamina adjustments to make block break easier or such.
I don't know if they are doing it in stages, but I would imagine they would at least eventually come around to adding heavy attacks which apparently have been ready for a while.
There are many ways to fix the saber combat. I hope whatever is done is fun in the meantime.
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Or it gets more broke. We shall see, though.
"It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
They did recover eventually with the progression update and now here we are with Obi Wan, Anakin, Dooku, Grevious, saber combat improvements, etc being added.
It's getting better, but there will be some more ups and downs before it settles down once the patch cycle ends.
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True. Lol, watch as getting blocked makes you go into a permanent stagger, where you endlessly shuffle backwards until you die. And you can fall off the map, and even after you respawn, you are still stuck in the indefinite stagger state.
"It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
These are his exact words. I had the same reaction when I saw that.
PS: For some reason my comment needed approval but it was then back here as a draft?
Hhmmmm, yessssssss. Interesting, indeed. Maybe they will lightly implement their saber styles, such as Obi Wan having less stamina drain on blocks/better blocks over the rest of the cast, Anakin could have strong counter attacks, Dooku could have weaker but stamina efficient strikes that deal heavy stamina damage to the enemy, etc?
"It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
I actually forgot this was also coming with next update!
These are his exact words. I had the same reaction when I saw that.
This is the reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/8uiaf7/lightsaber_combat_is_a_cluster_fuck/
(only for the title and the OP's rant it's already worth a read).
That can be on the d pad
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Sounds like you assume a lot...
Sounds like I have a new best friend.