Engineer and Medic Class

UnknownGamer

@Dash @FreakyCrawdad @BeastlyCrawdad @F8RGE

Here is my concept for a new class, designed to help the defenders dig in or give the attackers some cover. This is to help create a more dynamic battlefield, as we do not have destructible terrain(which is fine), but we still need landscape interaction. This class is intended to be a strategic player in giving the team defensive positions, and can be useful at point blank combats. In addition, he is capable of deploying turrets or mines, along with creating trenches for his team to dig in. Like if you want this, and please comment on ideas and suggestions!

Engineer class
Weapons-
Shotgun-3 pellets, 30 damage each. 2 shots a second, 4 shot magazine.
DC-15SG-Shotgun, 6 pellets, 25 damage each, 1 shot a second, 2 shot magazine
Tri-shot- 3 pellets, grouped closer together for better range, but 1.5 shots a second. 35 damage each, 6 shot magazine.
CR-1-8 pellets, 20 damage each, a lot of spread, 1.5 shots a second, 2 shot magazine.
.
.
Abilities
Q-Fortification-only one available at a time. Takes 5 seconds to construct, 500hp, like crescent shaped ones on Kashyyyk, only half the size.
.
E-Blaster turret-deploys a turret, like on Kashyyyk, Yavin, etc. Hit g to use it.
.
F-Dig-Digs a trench at current location just large enough for 1 trooper to stand in. Takes 1 second. Note that there is no recharge time, but it takes half a second for the engineer to redraw his gun. Dirt siding for planetary maps, ice for Hoth, and circuits for Death Star, etc.
.
Starcards-
Trench warfare
Gain a small amount f bp for every ally that uses a trench.
5,10,15,25bp
.
.
Ability cards
Reinforced Fortifications-Fortifications have more hp.
Total hp-600,650,700,800
.
.
Faster trenches
Trenches take less time to construct.
0.9,0.8,0.7,0.6 seconds
.
.
Defensive trenches
Explosive damage reduction while in trench
5%,7%,10%,15%
.
.
Defensive turret
Turrets now have a defensive panel to shield the user, and increased hp.
Increased hp-50,100,150,250
.
.
Turret grid
More turrets may be deployed
2,3,4,5
.
.
Mines-replaces turrets
Mines may be hidden in the battlefield(dark grey octagonal disks),200 damage
Number deployable
1,2,3,4
.
.
Larger fortifications
Full size now, not half size
Increased construction time
3,2.5,2,1
.
.
Weaponized fortifications
Fortifications now have a rocket launcher mounted on them, 150 hp for launcher
Rocket damage-200,250,300,350

UnknownGamer

Updated

Here is my concept for a new class, designed to help the defenders dig in or give the attackers some cover. This is to help create a more dynamic battlefield, as we do not have destructible terrain(which is fine), but we still need landscape interaction. This class is intended to be a strategic player in giving the team defensive positions, and can be useful at point blank combats. In addition, he is capable of deploying turrets or mines, along with creating trenches for his team to dig in. Like if you want this, and please comment on ideas and suggestions!

Engineer class
Weapons-
Shotgun-3 pellets, 30 damage each. 2 shots a second, 4 shot magazine.
DC-15SG-Shotgun, 6 pellets, 25 damage each, 1 shot a second, 2 shot magazine
Improved cooling, extended barrel, night vision
Tri-shot- 3 pellets, grouped closer together for better range, but 1.5 shots a second. 35 damage each, 6 shot magazine.
Ion shot, auto cooling, reduced recoil
CR-1-8 pellets, 20 damage each, a lot of spread, 1.5 shots a second, 2 shot magazine.
Reduced recoil, night vision, extended barrel
.
.
Abilities
Q-Fortification-only one available at a time. Takes 5 seconds to construct, 500hp, like crescent shaped ones on Kashyyyk, only half the size.
.
E-Blaster turret-deploys a turret, like on Kashyyyk, Yavin, etc. Hit g to use it.
.
F-Dig-Digs a trench at current location just large enough for 1 trooper to stand in. Takes 1 second. Note that there is no recharge time, but it takes half a second for the engineer to redraw his gun. Dirt siding for planetary maps, ice for Hoth, and circuits for Death Star, etc.
.
Starcards-
Trench warfare
Gain a small amount f bp for every ally that uses a trench.
5,10,15,25bp
.
.
Ability cards
Reinforced Fortifications-Fortifications have more hp.
Total hp-600,650,700,800
.
.
Faster trenches
Trenches take less time to construct.
0.9,0.8,0.7,0.6 seconds
.
.
Defensive trenches
Explosive damage reduction while in trench
5%,7%,10%,15%
.
.
Defensive turret
Turrets now have a defensive panel to shield the user, and increased hp.
Increased hp-50,100,150,250
.
.
Turret grid
More turrets may be deployed
2,3,4,5
.
.
Mines-replaces turrets
Mines may be hidden in the battlefield(dark grey octagonal disks),200 damage
Number deployable
1,2,3,4
.
.
Larger fortifications
Full size now, not half size
Increased construction time
3,2.5,2,1
.
.
Weaponized fortifications
Fortifications now have a rocket launcher mounted on them, 150 hp for launcher
Rocket damage-200,250,300,350

Andrien

Funny you mentioned this because I was thinking about how Killzone 2 had an Engineer-class last night. The Engineer should be the one to carry a turret, not an officer. Officer should be more of a support class but it's the most powerful class in the game even with all the nerfs.

UnknownGamer

Andrien wrote: »

Funny you mentioned this because I was thinking about how Killzone 2 had an Engineer-class last night. The Engineer should be the one to carry a turret, not an officer. Officer should be more of a support class but it's the most powerful class in the game even with all the nerfs.

It is improving slowly, but he is still an ho/ability/gun support with command and presence, while engineer can be more of a defensive support yet still lethal at close quarters. Idea came from how BFV has dynamic terrain.

JediPacoElFlaco

I like your idea.

Other possible abilities:

Blaster cannon:
Engineer places a powerful blaster cannon. This has a shield.


Ion Neutralizer
This damage and freeze enemy vehicles, droids and turrets.

Ion Neutralizer Gameplay:https://youtube.com/watch?v=f5lmnYm1fHE

Mechanic:
In your presence be increased autoreparation rate of the near vehicles

Artilleryman:
This ability increase the shot rate and reduce the overheating for the blaster cannon and all fixed weapons of this game when the engineer uses them.

Astromech droids (defense droid):
Place it and this attack any enemy.
R5-D4, C1-10P, C2-B5 , Viper Probe, etc


Viper probe droid (attack droid & exploration)
Send it in a direction and it will detect enemies and shot them.





Skins :

Clone Combat Engineer


Engineer droid


First Order Fleet Engineer


Imperial weapons technician


Rebel Engineer







PD: I would like see a medic class in a future too.

UnknownGamer

Yes, the turret is a similar idea, only the shield should be a starcard upgrade. Hiwever, we already have AT capabilities on 3 classes, 4 would probobly be too much. I feel like fortifications at choke points would be best.

bfloo

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Yes, the turret is a similar idea, only the shield should be a starcard upgrade. Hiwever, we already have AT capabilities on 3 classes, 4 would probobly be too much. I feel like fortifications at choke points would be best.

Fortifications at choke points would kill any chance the attackers have on most of the maps.

UnknownGamer

bfloo wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Yes, the turret is a similar idea, only the shield should be a starcard upgrade. Hiwever, we already have AT capabilities on 3 classes, 4 would probobly be too much. I feel like fortifications at choke points would be best.

Fortifications at choke points would kill any chance the attackers have on most of the maps.

I mean the attackers can make them. Besides, the fortifications are fairly low, and the wall would not fit there anyways... Leaving trenches and turrets only.

JediPacoElFlaco

Artilleryman: this ability increase the shot rate and reduce the overheating for the blaster cannon and all fixed weapons of this game when the engineer uses them.

UnknownGamer

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

Artilleryman: this ability increase the shot rate and reduce the overheating for the blaster cannon and all fixed weapons of this game when the engineer uses them.

That is nice.

JediPacoElFlaco

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

UnknownGamer

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

JediPacoElFlaco

UnknownGamer wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

When have you seen a officer doing medical functions in a match? I never.

No one play in medic role because the officer has better attack abilities than medical abilities. And her medical abilities are limited.

I think a specific medic class would be much better. Some posible abilities:

- Bacta bomb
You can throw a bacta bomb where you like and regenerate all life of your friend/s immediately.

- Medical droid
You can put a medical droid in key places to regenerate life of the near troopers. Strategic?

- Adrenaline Stim
To survive in dangerous situations. Be medic has its benefits ;-)

-Smoke granade
It gives numerous posibilities to defend or attack.

-Disruptor rifle
This rifle releases a condensed sphere of ion energy that kills enemy players on impact.(He must has an atack ability for more ofensive players)

UnknownGamer

Medic
Bacta bomb, restores 100 possible regen hp for heroes, radius - 4m
Smoke nade
Astromech/droid, goes around fixing vehicles, 25hp/sec, 125hp droid

Weapons-
S9-default-average, similar to standard officer gun only higher damage and less range(falloff)
Sonic Pistol-S9-51-Exploding shot, reduced recoil, night vision. Medium rof, high damage, short range.(falloff, still shoots straight)
S-5C-Naboo handgun, less damage, better rof. Reduced recoil, flare(radar mark, visible to aircraft), and enhanced cooling.
SE-44D-Same as FO version, only slower rof but more damage and range. Night vision, auto cooling, and ion shot.

Note:Will make actual stats with numbers later.



Star cards

Lingering smoke
Smike lasts longer
Additional duration
1,2,3,5

Sidekick
Bacta bomb restores more potential hp for heroes.
Additional hp
50,100,150,250

Advanced tech
Droid repairs faster
Addititional hp per second
25,50,75,125

Dispersing smoke
Smoke dissolves acids/gasses.
Damage prevention.
30%,50%,70%,100%

Bigger bomb
Bacta bomb has an increased radius
Radius increase
0.5,1,1.5,2.5

Extra armour
Droid has increased hp.
Increased hp
25,50,75,100

Ray shield
replaces smoke nade
Ray shield is an upright rectangular wall.
Hp
100,150,200,300

Better Bacta
Bacta bomb does increased healing.
Increased instant-healed hp(was 50)
75,100,125,175

Search droid
Rather than repairing, the droid scouts terrain.
Topographical minimap shown for medic player for the droids area. The droid makes any units within it marked on radar.
Radius of scan
3,5,7,10

JediPacoElFlaco

Have you mixed the engineer and the medic? I don't like it.
IMHO different classes is much better because are different roles.
Your weapons i like.

UnknownGamer

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

Have you mixed the engineer and the medic? I don't like it.
IMHO different classes is much better because are different roles.
Your weapons i like.

No, different classes. Updating the title.

bfloo

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

When have you seen a officer doing medical functions in a match? I never.

No one play in medic role because the officer has better attack abilities than medical abilities. And her medical abilities are limited.

I think a specific medic class would be much better. Some posible abilities:

- Bacta bomb
You can throw a bacta bomb where you like and regenerate all life of your friend/s immediately.

- Medical droid
You can put a medical droid in key places to regenerate life of the near troopers. Strategic?

- Adrenaline Stim
To survive in dangerous situations. Be medic has its benefits ;-)

-Smoke granade
It gives numerous posibilities to defend or attack.

-Disruptor rifle
This rifle releases a condensed sphere of ion energy that kills enemy players on impact.(He must has an atack ability for more ofensive players)

No bacta bombs, they were a terrible idea in the last game.

JediPacoElFlaco

bfloo wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

When have you seen a officer doing medical functions in a match? I never.

No one play in medic role because the officer has better attack abilities than medical abilities. And her medical abilities are limited.

I think a specific medic class would be much better. Some posible abilities:

- Bacta bomb
You can throw a bacta bomb where you like and regenerate all life of your friend/s immediately.

- Medical droid
You can put a medical droid in key places to regenerate life of the near troopers. Strategic?

- Adrenaline Stim
To survive in dangerous situations. Be medic has its benefits ;-)

-Smoke granade
It gives numerous posibilities to defend or attack.

-Disruptor rifle
This rifle releases a condensed sphere of ion energy that kills enemy players on impact.(He must has an atack ability for more ofensive players)

No bacta bombs, they were a terrible idea in the last game.

And TL-50 and many weapons. But it's cool!

UnknownGamer

bfloo wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

When have you seen a officer doing medical functions in a match? I never.

No one play in medic role because the officer has better attack abilities than medical abilities. And her medical abilities are limited.

I think a specific medic class would be much better. Some posible abilities:

- Bacta bomb
You can throw a bacta bomb where you like and regenerate all life of your friend/s immediately.

- Medical droid
You can put a medical droid in key places to regenerate life of the near troopers. Strategic?

- Adrenaline Stim
To survive in dangerous situations. Be medic has its benefits ;-)

-Smoke granade
It gives numerous posibilities to defend or attack.

-Disruptor rifle
This rifle releases a condensed sphere of ion energy that kills enemy players on impact.(He must has an atack ability for more ofensive players)

No bacta bombs, they were a terrible idea in the last game.

Bacta bomb insta health regen. Medic.

4_K_I

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Updated

Here is my concept for a new class, designed to help the defenders dig in or give the attackers some cover. This is to help create a more dynamic battlefield, as we do not have destructible terrain(which is fine), but we still need landscape interaction. This class is intended to be a strategic player in giving the team defensive positions, and can be useful at point blank combats. In addition, he is capable of deploying turrets or mines, along with creating trenches for his team to dig in. Like if you want this, and please comment on ideas and suggestions!

Engineer class
Weapons-
Shotgun-3 pellets, 30 damage each. 2 shots a second, 4 shot magazine.
DC-15SG-Shotgun, 6 pellets, 25 damage each, 1 shot a second, 2 shot magazine
Improved cooling, extended barrel, night vision
Tri-shot- 3 pellets, grouped closer together for better range, but 1.5 shots a second. 35 damage each, 6 shot magazine.
Ion shot, auto cooling, reduced recoil
CR-1-8 pellets, 20 damage each, a lot of spread, 1.5 shots a second, 2 shot magazine.
Reduced recoil, night vision, extended barrel
.
.
Abilities
Q-Fortification-only one available at a time. Takes 5 seconds to construct, 500hp, like crescent shaped ones on Kashyyyk, only half the size.
.
E-Blaster turret-deploys a turret, like on Kashyyyk, Yavin, etc. Hit g to use it.
.
F-Dig-Digs a trench at current location just large enough for 1 trooper to stand in. Takes 1 second. Note that there is no recharge time, but it takes half a second for the engineer to redraw his gun. Dirt siding for planetary maps, ice for Hoth, and circuits for Death Star, etc.
.
Starcards-
Trench warfare
Gain a small amount f bp for every ally that uses a trench.
5,10,15,25bp
.
.
Ability cards
Reinforced Fortifications-Fortifications have more hp.
Total hp-600,650,700,800
.
.
Faster trenches
Trenches take less time to construct.
0.9,0.8,0.7,0.6 seconds
.
.
Defensive trenches
Explosive damage reduction while in trench
5%,7%,10%,15%
.
.
Defensive turret
Turrets now have a defensive panel to shield the user, and increased hp.
Increased hp-50,100,150,250
.
.
Turret grid
More turrets may be deployed
2,3,4,5
.
.
Mines-replaces turrets
Mines may be hidden in the battlefield(dark grey octagonal disks),200 damage
Number deployable
1,2,3,4
.
.
Larger fortifications
Full size now, not half size
Increased construction time
3,2.5,2,1
.
.
Weaponized fortifications
Fortifications now have a rocket launcher mounted on them, 150 hp for launcher
Rocket damage-200,250,300,350

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Medic
Bacta bomb, restores 100 possible regen hp for heroes, radius - 4m
Smoke nade
Astromech/droid, goes around fixing vehicles, 25hp/sec, 125hp droid

Weapons-
S9-default-average, similar to standard officer gun only higher damage and less range(falloff)
Sonic Pistol-S9-51-Exploding shot, reduced recoil, night vision. Medium rof, high damage, short range.(falloff, still shoots straight)
S-5C-Naboo handgun, less damage, better rof. Reduced recoil, flare(radar mark, visible to aircraft), and enhanced cooling.
SE-44D-Same as FO version, only slower rof but more damage and range. Night vision, auto cooling, and ion shot.

Note:Will make actual stats with numbers later.



Star cards

Lingering smoke
Smike lasts longer
Additional duration
1,2,3,5

Sidekick
Bacta bomb restores more potential hp for heroes.
Additional hp
50,100,150,250

Advanced tech
Droid repairs faster
Addititional hp per second
25,50,75,125

Dispersing smoke
Smoke dissolves acids/gasses.
Damage prevention.
30%,50%,70%,100%

Bigger bomb
Bacta bomb has an increased radius
Radius increase
0.5,1,1.5,2.5

Extra armour
Droid has increased hp.
Increased hp
25,50,75,100

Ray shield
replaces smoke nade
Ray shield is an upright rectangular wall.
Hp
100,150,200,300

Better Bacta
Bacta bomb does increased healing.
Increased instant-healed hp(was 50)
75,100,125,175

Search droid
Rather than repairing, the droid scouts terrain.
Topographical minimap shown for medic player for the droids area. The droid makes any units within it marked on radar.
Radius of scan
3,5,7,10

Now this is what Id like. Maybe not all of these abilities but the classes are on my battlefront 2 wish list.

JediPacoElFlaco

Medical class skins:

Clone Combat Medic



Rebel medic


Imperial medic




Resistance

UnknownGamer

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

Medical class skins:

Clone Combat Medic



Rebel medic


Imperial medic




Resistance

Nice. With legion skins for clones, too.

JediPacoElFlaco

Many interesting ideas about the medic of @Llunots in this post:

https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/comment/1202781#Comment_1202781

High Technology Detector (A detector that allow you to see who has low Health (if the Player looks red
means less than 50%HP, if the Player looks blue means more than 50% HP)
(duration 40 seconds, (40,50,60,75) (replaces Bacta Bomb)

UnknownGamer

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

Many interesting ideas about the medic of @Llunots in this post:

https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/comment/1202781#Comment_1202781

High Technology Detector (A detector that allow you to see who has low Health (if the Player looks red
means less than 50%HP, if the Player looks blue means more than 50% HP)
(duration 40 seconds, (40,50,60,75) (replaces Bacta Bomb)

Hmmm... And what if the special medic card(like presence, assault training, etc) yielded hp regen within 2,3,4, and 6 meters of the medic? These two things would work well hand in hand. 5 hp a second, plus whatever hp regen is. Presence would still be beneficial, too.

Lionbite

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

JediPacoElFlaco

Lionbite wrote: »

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

Anti-tank purposes: Ion neutralizer
Explosive expert: mines

Besides he puts blaster cannon, astromech droids and increase auto reparation rate of the near vehicles like a good mechanic.

UnknownGamer

Lionbite wrote: »

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

Unfortunately, ariel has this and it only really gets used on troopers for the most part.

Lionbite

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Lionbite wrote: »

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

Unfortunately, ariel has this and it only really gets used on troopers for the most part.

And doesn't do any damage to them ;T

UnknownGamer

Lionbite wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Lionbite wrote: »

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

Unfortunately, ariel has this and it only really gets used on troopers for the most part.

And doesn't do any damage to them ;T

No, it kills troopers. OHK when I use it.

JediPacoElFlaco

Engineer skins for the clones:

1 - Phase I

During the Phase I stage of Clone Troopers, the Grand Army of the Republic utilized repurposed clone pilots to fulfill the role of the engineer


2 - Phase II

2.1 - Clone Combat Engineer, 38th Armored Division


2.2 - Clone Combat Engineer, 501st Legion

JediPacoElFlaco

Imperial engineer (Hoth version)


Rebel engineer

dreadnought28

A great idea for future updates

UnknownGamer

dreadnought28 wrote: »

A great idea for future updates

Would make gameplay interesting... Fortifications.

Lyc4n

The engineer could be more technology based since it should be more of a support class, it could have an ability like the old bsttlefront to slice through a tank and destroy it, an ability to disable any technology in a wide area including vechicles, maybe another to repair the medics droid as well as any turets, could also have an ability to hack into enemy turrets and turn them against the enemy. They should really focus on making the class its own thing and the fortifications r great, but mayb make them small like 1/2 man can fit behind?

Schnippshly

I would surely like real medics/engineers to be in Battlefront ala Battlefield. I don't think Battlefront should be a "casual alternative" to Battlefield. It should be a full on Battlefield: Star Wars complete with all of the features a real Battlefield game is expected to have, and that the old Battlefront games had, that new Battlefront for some reason gets away with not having. I'm talking more support classes and abilities, limited ammo (so that an ammo crate guy would be useful), as well as way more vehicles, all of which are MANUALLY controlled, have cockpit views, and can be used more often.
I mean when they first announced 2015's Battlefront 1, I was imagining it having medics, engineers, way more land vehicles, more game modes (or at least a conquest mode), needless to say I was so disappointed. Battlefront 2 is a little better but it's still very shallow.

JediPacoElFlaco

Engineer and medic would be a good new classes.

Maybe in the next Battlefront....

Schnippshly

Yeah I'd say it's definitely way too late for 2 to be making such fundamental changes, but if 1 was awful, and 2 was better, then maybe 3 will be better still.

Lyc4n

They need to make sure in the third battlefront that all vehicles are spawned onto the map and anyone can get in or out so you can find a vehicle and get in with other players, the laat gunship should have a pilot and be a troop transport, make it 40 vs 40 and put alot of emphasis onto the trooper classes making each one feel very different with different playstyles and roles to fulfill, all just as impactfull as eschother in many different situations. Much less focus on heroes. Start of with mostly just troopers vehicles and reinforcements and then when the game has solid gameplay for this, add heroes to it to add a bit more to the game.

Schnippshly

Lyc4n wrote: »

They need to make sure in the third battlefront that all vehicles are spawned onto the map and anyone can get in or out so you can find a vehicle and get in with other players, the laat gunship should have a pilot and be a troop transport, make it 40 vs 40 and put alot of emphasis onto the trooper classes making each one feel very different with different playstyles and roles to fulfill, all just as impactfull as eschother in many different situations. Much less focus on heroes. Start of with mostly just troopers vehicles and reinforcements and then when the game has solid gameplay for this, add heroes to it to add a bit more to the game.

Well said. I feel there is way too much focus on heroes who steal the show by being numerous and overpowered. I would much rather have more fleshed-out classes that are more rewarding to play, especially points-wise. You get zero points for using Finn's two support abilities. Why even bother playing as him then? The officer is the only class that gets some real abilities. Even then I think the whole star card deal where you HAVE to have a flashbang and turret by default is pretty stupid. Why can't you replace the unupgraded flashbang with an unupgraded EMP without using a star card? Ridiculous!
They're only just now adding the clone trooper tank two years later that they should have had when the game came out. It's really insane how the PSP games had way more vehicles, and multi-seated vehicles you had full control over. Plus Elite Battlefront let you start on foot, get in a ship and then fly up into space to attack capital ships, whenever you wanted! Not to rant but Battlefront 2 is pretty pathetic by comparison by virtue of the fact that it didn't even try.

Lyc4n

Schnippshly wrote: »

Lyc4n wrote: »

They need to make sure in the third battlefront that all vehicles are spawned onto the map and anyone can get in or out so you can find a vehicle and get in with other players, the laat gunship should have a pilot and be a troop transport, make it 40 vs 40 and put alot of emphasis onto the trooper classes making each one feel very different with different playstyles and roles to fulfill, all just as impactfull as eschother in many different situations. Much less focus on heroes. Start of with mostly just troopers vehicles and reinforcements and then when the game has solid gameplay for this, add heroes to it to add a bit more to the game.

Well said. I feel there is way too much focus on heroes who steal the show by being numerous and overpowered. I would much rather have more fleshed-out classes that are more rewarding to play, especially points-wise. You get zero points for using Finn's two support abilities. Why even bother playing as him then? The officer is the only class that gets some real abilities. Even then I think the whole star card deal where you HAVE to have a flashbang and turret by default is pretty stupid. Why can't you replace the unupgraded flashbang with an unupgraded EMP without using a star card? Ridiculous!
They're only just now adding the clone trooper tank two years later that they should have had when the game came out. It's really insane how the PSP games had way more vehicles, and multi-seated vehicles you had full control over. Plus Elite Battlefront let you start on foot, get in a ship and then fly up into space to attack capital ships, whenever you wanted! Not to rant but Battlefront 2 is pretty pathetic by comparison by virtue of the fact that it didn't even try.

I quite like the fact they keep adding stuff, if they hadnt been rushed and this was the game they released at launch it would have been amazing i think.

Schnippshly

We can only hope that Battlefront 3 will be designed specifically with all the failings of Battlefront 2 in mind. I feel like Battlefront 2 was a tremendous step up over Battlefront 1 and that it has only gotten better (except for the over-abundance of mismatched clone skins) so I don't doubt Battlefront 3 will be fundamentally better. It is at least nice that they have kept working on Battlefront 2 so that it's not nearly as bad as it was at launch.