Engineer and Medic Class

UnknownGamer · October 13, 2018 12:22PM

@Dash @FreakyCrawdad @BeastlyCrawdad @F8RGE

Here is my concept for a new class, designed to help the defenders dig in or give the attackers some cover. This is to help create a more dynamic battlefield, as we do not have destructible terrain(which is fine), but we still need landscape interaction. This class is intended to be a strategic player in giving the team defensive positions, and can be useful at point blank combats. In addition, he is capable of deploying turrets or mines, along with creating trenches for his team to dig in. Like if you want this, and please comment on ideas and suggestions!

Engineer class
Weapons-
Shotgun-3 pellets, 30 damage each. 2 shots a second, 4 shot magazine.
DC-15SG-Shotgun, 6 pellets, 25 damage each, 1 shot a second, 2 shot magazine
Tri-shot- 3 pellets, grouped closer together for better range, but 1.5 shots a second. 35 damage each, 6 shot magazine.
CR-1-8 pellets, 20 damage each, a lot of spread, 1.5 shots a second, 2 shot magazine.
.
.
Abilities
Q-Fortification-only one available at a time. Takes 5 seconds to construct, 500hp, like crescent shaped ones on Kashyyyk, only half the size.
.
E-Blaster turret-deploys a turret, like on Kashyyyk, Yavin, etc. Hit g to use it.
.
F-Dig-Digs a trench at current location just large enough for 1 trooper to stand in. Takes 1 second. Note that there is no recharge time, but it takes half a second for the engineer to redraw his gun. Dirt siding for planetary maps, ice for Hoth, and circuits for Death Star, etc.
.
Starcards-
Trench warfare
Gain a small amount f bp for every ally that uses a trench.
5,10,15,25bp
.
.
Ability cards
Reinforced Fortifications-Fortifications have more hp.
Total hp-600,650,700,800
.
.
Faster trenches
Trenches take less time to construct.
0.9,0.8,0.7,0.6 seconds
.
.
Defensive trenches
Explosive damage reduction while in trench
5%,7%,10%,15%
.
.
Defensive turret
Turrets now have a defensive panel to shield the user, and increased hp.
Increased hp-50,100,150,250
.
.
Turret grid
More turrets may be deployed
2,3,4,5
.
.
Mines-replaces turrets
Mines may be hidden in the battlefield(dark grey octagonal disks),200 damage
Number deployable
1,2,3,4
.
.
Larger fortifications
Full size now, not half size
Increased construction time
3,2.5,2,1
.
.
Weaponized fortifications
Fortifications now have a rocket launcher mounted on them, 150 hp for launcher
Rocket damage-200,250,300,350

UnknownGamer · October 13, 2018 7:56PM

Updated

Here is my concept for a new class, designed to help the defenders dig in or give the attackers some cover. This is to help create a more dynamic battlefield, as we do not have destructible terrain(which is fine), but we still need landscape interaction. This class is intended to be a strategic player in giving the team defensive positions, and can be useful at point blank combats. In addition, he is capable of deploying turrets or mines, along with creating trenches for his team to dig in. Like if you want this, and please comment on ideas and suggestions!

Engineer class
Weapons-
Shotgun-3 pellets, 30 damage each. 2 shots a second, 4 shot magazine.
DC-15SG-Shotgun, 6 pellets, 25 damage each, 1 shot a second, 2 shot magazine
Improved cooling, extended barrel, night vision
Tri-shot- 3 pellets, grouped closer together for better range, but 1.5 shots a second. 35 damage each, 6 shot magazine.
Ion shot, auto cooling, reduced recoil
CR-1-8 pellets, 20 damage each, a lot of spread, 1.5 shots a second, 2 shot magazine.
Reduced recoil, night vision, extended barrel
.
.
Abilities
Q-Fortification-only one available at a time. Takes 5 seconds to construct, 500hp, like crescent shaped ones on Kashyyyk, only half the size.
.
E-Blaster turret-deploys a turret, like on Kashyyyk, Yavin, etc. Hit g to use it.
.
F-Dig-Digs a trench at current location just large enough for 1 trooper to stand in. Takes 1 second. Note that there is no recharge time, but it takes half a second for the engineer to redraw his gun. Dirt siding for planetary maps, ice for Hoth, and circuits for Death Star, etc.
.
Starcards-
Trench warfare
Gain a small amount f bp for every ally that uses a trench.
5,10,15,25bp
.
.
Ability cards
Reinforced Fortifications-Fortifications have more hp.
Total hp-600,650,700,800
.
.
Faster trenches
Trenches take less time to construct.
0.9,0.8,0.7,0.6 seconds
.
.
Defensive trenches
Explosive damage reduction while in trench
5%,7%,10%,15%
.
.
Defensive turret
Turrets now have a defensive panel to shield the user, and increased hp.
Increased hp-50,100,150,250
.
.
Turret grid
More turrets may be deployed
2,3,4,5
.
.
Mines-replaces turrets
Mines may be hidden in the battlefield(dark grey octagonal disks),200 damage
Number deployable
1,2,3,4
.
.
Larger fortifications
Full size now, not half size
Increased construction time
3,2.5,2,1
.
.
Weaponized fortifications
Fortifications now have a rocket launcher mounted on them, 150 hp for launcher
Rocket damage-200,250,300,350

Andrien · October 13, 2018 11:30PM

Funny you mentioned this because I was thinking about how Killzone 2 had an Engineer-class last night. The Engineer should be the one to carry a turret, not an officer. Officer should be more of a support class but it's the most powerful class in the game even with all the nerfs.

UnknownGamer · October 14, 2018 12:21AM

Andrien wrote: »

Funny you mentioned this because I was thinking about how Killzone 2 had an Engineer-class last night. The Engineer should be the one to carry a turret, not an officer. Officer should be more of a support class but it's the most powerful class in the game even with all the nerfs.

It is improving slowly, but he is still an ho/ability/gun support with command and presence, while engineer can be more of a defensive support yet still lethal at close quarters. Idea came from how BFV has dynamic terrain.

JediPacoElFlaco · October 15, 2018 12:23AM

I like your idea.

Other possible abilities:

Blaster cannon:
Engineer places a powerful blaster cannon. This has a shield.

Ion Neutralizer
This damage and freeze enemy vehicles, droids and turrets.

Ion Neutralizer Gameplay:

Mechanic:
In your presence be increased autoreparation rate of the near vehicles

Artilleryman:
This ability increase the shot rate and reduce the overheating for the blaster cannon and all fixed weapons of this game when the engineer uses them.

Astromech droids (defense droid):
Place it and this attack any enemy.
R5-D4, C1-10P, C2-B5 , Viper Probe, etc

Viper probe droid (attack droid & exploration)
Send it in a direction and it will detect enemies and shot them.

Skins :

Clone Combat Engineer

Engineer droid

First Order Fleet Engineer

Imperial weapons technician

Rebel Engineer

PD: I would like see a medic class in a future too.

UnknownGamer · October 15, 2018 11:16AM

Yes, the turret is a similar idea, only the shield should be a starcard upgrade. Hiwever, we already have AT capabilities on 3 classes, 4 would probobly be too much. I feel like fortifications at choke points would be best.

bfloo · October 15, 2018 11:42AM

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Yes, the turret is a similar idea, only the shield should be a starcard upgrade. Hiwever, we already have AT capabilities on 3 classes, 4 would probobly be too much. I feel like fortifications at choke points would be best.

Fortifications at choke points would kill any chance the attackers have on most of the maps.

UnknownGamer · October 15, 2018 2:41PM

bfloo wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Yes, the turret is a similar idea, only the shield should be a starcard upgrade. Hiwever, we already have AT capabilities on 3 classes, 4 would probobly be too much. I feel like fortifications at choke points would be best.

Fortifications at choke points would kill any chance the attackers have on most of the maps.

I mean the attackers can make them. Besides, the fortifications are fairly low, and the wall would not fit there anyways... Leaving trenches and turrets only.

JediPacoElFlaco · October 16, 2018 7:09AM

Artilleryman: this ability increase the shot rate and reduce the overheating for the blaster cannon and all fixed weapons of this game when the engineer uses them.

UnknownGamer · October 16, 2018 3:31PM

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

Artilleryman: this ability increase the shot rate and reduce the overheating for the blaster cannon and all fixed weapons of this game when the engineer uses them.

That is nice.

JediPacoElFlaco · October 17, 2018 9:00AM

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

UnknownGamer · October 17, 2018 11:01AM

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

JediPacoElFlaco · October 17, 2018 1:50PM

UnknownGamer wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

When have you seen a officer doing medical functions in a match? I never.

No one play in medic role because the officer has better attack abilities than medical abilities. And her medical abilities are limited.

I think a specific medic class would be much better. Some posible abilities:

- Bacta bomb
You can throw a bacta bomb where you like and regenerate all life of your friend/s immediately.

- Medical droid
You can put a medical droid in key places to regenerate life of the near troopers. Strategic?

- Adrenaline Stim
To survive in dangerous situations. Be medic has its benefits ;-)

-Smoke granade
It gives numerous posibilities to defend or attack.

-Disruptor rifle
This rifle releases a condensed sphere of ion energy that kills enemy players on impact.(He must has an atack ability for more ofensive players)

UnknownGamer · October 18, 2018 12:53AM

Medic
Bacta bomb, restores 100 possible regen hp for heroes, radius - 4m
Smoke nade
Astromech/droid, goes around fixing vehicles, 25hp/sec, 125hp droid

Weapons-
S9-default-average, similar to standard officer gun only higher damage and less range(falloff)
Sonic Pistol-S9-51-Exploding shot, reduced recoil, night vision. Medium rof, high damage, short range.(falloff, still shoots straight)
S-5C-Naboo handgun, less damage, better rof. Reduced recoil, flare(radar mark, visible to aircraft), and enhanced cooling.
SE-44D-Same as FO version, only slower rof but more damage and range. Night vision, auto cooling, and ion shot.

Note:Will make actual stats with numbers later.

Star cards

Lingering smoke
Smike lasts longer
Additional duration
1,2,3,5

Sidekick
Bacta bomb restores more potential hp for heroes.
Additional hp
50,100,150,250

Advanced tech
Droid repairs faster
Addititional hp per second
25,50,75,125

Dispersing smoke
Smoke dissolves acids/gasses.
Damage prevention.
30%,50%,70%,100%

Bigger bomb
Bacta bomb has an increased radius
Radius increase
0.5,1,1.5,2.5

Extra armour
Droid has increased hp.
Increased hp
25,50,75,100

Ray shield
replaces smoke nade
Ray shield is an upright rectangular wall.
Hp
100,150,200,300

Better Bacta
Bacta bomb does increased healing.
Increased instant-healed hp(was 50)
75,100,125,175

Search droid
Rather than repairing, the droid scouts terrain.
Topographical minimap shown for medic player for the droids area. The droid makes any units within it marked on radar.
Radius of scan
3,5,7,10

JediPacoElFlaco · October 18, 2018 7:05AM

Have you mixed the engineer and the medic? I don't like it.
IMHO different classes is much better because are different roles.
Your weapons i like.

UnknownGamer · October 18, 2018 11:12AM

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

Have you mixed the engineer and the medic? I don't like it.
IMHO different classes is much better because are different roles.
Your weapons i like.

No, different classes. Updating the title.

bfloo · October 18, 2018 11:25AM

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

When have you seen a officer doing medical functions in a match? I never.

No one play in medic role because the officer has better attack abilities than medical abilities. And her medical abilities are limited.

I think a specific medic class would be much better. Some posible abilities:

- Bacta bomb
You can throw a bacta bomb where you like and regenerate all life of your friend/s immediately.

- Medical droid
You can put a medical droid in key places to regenerate life of the near troopers. Strategic?

- Adrenaline Stim
To survive in dangerous situations. Be medic has its benefits ;-)

-Smoke granade
It gives numerous posibilities to defend or attack.

-Disruptor rifle
This rifle releases a condensed sphere of ion energy that kills enemy players on impact.(He must has an atack ability for more ofensive players)

No bacta bombs, they were a terrible idea in the last game.

JediPacoElFlaco · October 18, 2018 12:15PM

bfloo wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

When have you seen a officer doing medical functions in a match? I never.

No one play in medic role because the officer has better attack abilities than medical abilities. And her medical abilities are limited.

I think a specific medic class would be much better. Some posible abilities:

- Bacta bomb
You can throw a bacta bomb where you like and regenerate all life of your friend/s immediately.

- Medical droid
You can put a medical droid in key places to regenerate life of the near troopers. Strategic?

- Adrenaline Stim
To survive in dangerous situations. Be medic has its benefits ;-)

-Smoke granade
It gives numerous posibilities to defend or attack.

-Disruptor rifle
This rifle releases a condensed sphere of ion energy that kills enemy players on impact.(He must has an atack ability for more ofensive players)

No bacta bombs, they were a terrible idea in the last game.

And TL-50 and many weapons. But it's cool!

UnknownGamer · October 18, 2018 4:10PM

bfloo wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

It's a shame that the people don't back this type post.

New maps, new weapons or new heroes would be very good. But nothing could change so much this game like tje engineer class or the medic class.

Agreed. How would medic work though? Health regen is a thing, officer buffs hp, as do many heroes, so...

When have you seen a officer doing medical functions in a match? I never.

No one play in medic role because the officer has better attack abilities than medical abilities. And her medical abilities are limited.

I think a specific medic class would be much better. Some posible abilities:

- Bacta bomb
You can throw a bacta bomb where you like and regenerate all life of your friend/s immediately.

- Medical droid
You can put a medical droid in key places to regenerate life of the near troopers. Strategic?

- Adrenaline Stim
To survive in dangerous situations. Be medic has its benefits ;-)

-Smoke granade
It gives numerous posibilities to defend or attack.

-Disruptor rifle
This rifle releases a condensed sphere of ion energy that kills enemy players on impact.(He must has an atack ability for more ofensive players)

No bacta bombs, they were a terrible idea in the last game.

Bacta bomb insta health regen. Medic.

4_K_I · October 19, 2018 4:33AM

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Updated

Here is my concept for a new class, designed to help the defenders dig in or give the attackers some cover. This is to help create a more dynamic battlefield, as we do not have destructible terrain(which is fine), but we still need landscape interaction. This class is intended to be a strategic player in giving the team defensive positions, and can be useful at point blank combats. In addition, he is capable of deploying turrets or mines, along with creating trenches for his team to dig in. Like if you want this, and please comment on ideas and suggestions!

Engineer class
Weapons-
Shotgun-3 pellets, 30 damage each. 2 shots a second, 4 shot magazine.
DC-15SG-Shotgun, 6 pellets, 25 damage each, 1 shot a second, 2 shot magazine
Improved cooling, extended barrel, night vision
Tri-shot- 3 pellets, grouped closer together for better range, but 1.5 shots a second. 35 damage each, 6 shot magazine.
Ion shot, auto cooling, reduced recoil
CR-1-8 pellets, 20 damage each, a lot of spread, 1.5 shots a second, 2 shot magazine.
Reduced recoil, night vision, extended barrel
.
.
Abilities
Q-Fortification-only one available at a time. Takes 5 seconds to construct, 500hp, like crescent shaped ones on Kashyyyk, only half the size.
.
E-Blaster turret-deploys a turret, like on Kashyyyk, Yavin, etc. Hit g to use it.
.
F-Dig-Digs a trench at current location just large enough for 1 trooper to stand in. Takes 1 second. Note that there is no recharge time, but it takes half a second for the engineer to redraw his gun. Dirt siding for planetary maps, ice for Hoth, and circuits for Death Star, etc.
.
Starcards-
Trench warfare
Gain a small amount f bp for every ally that uses a trench.
5,10,15,25bp
.
.
Ability cards
Reinforced Fortifications-Fortifications have more hp.
Total hp-600,650,700,800
.
.
Faster trenches
Trenches take less time to construct.
0.9,0.8,0.7,0.6 seconds
.
.
Defensive trenches
Explosive damage reduction while in trench
5%,7%,10%,15%
.
.
Defensive turret
Turrets now have a defensive panel to shield the user, and increased hp.
Increased hp-50,100,150,250
.
.
Turret grid
More turrets may be deployed
2,3,4,5
.
.
Mines-replaces turrets
Mines may be hidden in the battlefield(dark grey octagonal disks),200 damage
Number deployable
1,2,3,4
.
.
Larger fortifications
Full size now, not half size
Increased construction time
3,2.5,2,1
.
.
Weaponized fortifications
Fortifications now have a rocket launcher mounted on them, 150 hp for launcher
Rocket damage-200,250,300,350

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Medic
Bacta bomb, restores 100 possible regen hp for heroes, radius - 4m
Smoke nade
Astromech/droid, goes around fixing vehicles, 25hp/sec, 125hp droid

Weapons-
S9-default-average, similar to standard officer gun only higher damage and less range(falloff)
Sonic Pistol-S9-51-Exploding shot, reduced recoil, night vision. Medium rof, high damage, short range.(falloff, still shoots straight)
S-5C-Naboo handgun, less damage, better rof. Reduced recoil, flare(radar mark, visible to aircraft), and enhanced cooling.
SE-44D-Same as FO version, only slower rof but more damage and range. Night vision, auto cooling, and ion shot.

Note:Will make actual stats with numbers later.

Star cards

Lingering smoke
Smike lasts longer
Additional duration
1,2,3,5

Sidekick
Bacta bomb restores more potential hp for heroes.
Additional hp
50,100,150,250

Advanced tech
Droid repairs faster
Addititional hp per second
25,50,75,125

Dispersing smoke
Smoke dissolves acids/gasses.
Damage prevention.
30%,50%,70%,100%

Bigger bomb
Bacta bomb has an increased radius
Radius increase
0.5,1,1.5,2.5

Extra armour
Droid has increased hp.
Increased hp
25,50,75,100

Ray shield
replaces smoke nade
Ray shield is an upright rectangular wall.
Hp
100,150,200,300

Better Bacta
Bacta bomb does increased healing.
Increased instant-healed hp(was 50)
75,100,125,175

Search droid
Rather than repairing, the droid scouts terrain.
Topographical minimap shown for medic player for the droids area. The droid makes any units within it marked on radar.
Radius of scan
3,5,7,10

Now this is what Id like. Maybe not all of these abilities but the classes are on my battlefront 2 wish list.

JediPacoElFlaco · October 19, 2018 8:59AM

Medical class skins:

Clone Combat Medic

Rebel medic

Imperial medic
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Resistance
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UnknownGamer · October 19, 2018 11:08AM

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

Medical class skins:

Clone Combat Medic

Rebel medic

Imperial medic

Resistance

Nice. With legion skins for clones, too.

JediPacoElFlaco · October 19, 2018 12:39PM

Many interesting ideas about the medic of @Llunots in this post:

https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/comment/1202781#Comment_1202781

High Technology Detector (A detector that allow you to see who has low Health (if the Player looks red
means less than 50%HP, if the Player looks blue means more than 50% HP)
(duration 40 seconds, (40,50,60,75) (replaces Bacta Bomb)

UnknownGamer · October 20, 2018 1:46AM

JediPacoElFlaco wrote: »

Many interesting ideas about the medic of @Llunots in this post:

https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/comment/1202781#Comment_1202781

High Technology Detector (A detector that allow you to see who has low Health (if the Player looks red
means less than 50%HP, if the Player looks blue means more than 50% HP)
(duration 40 seconds, (40,50,60,75) (replaces Bacta Bomb)

Hmmm... And what if the special medic card(like presence, assault training, etc) yielded hp regen within 2,3,4, and 6 meters of the medic? These two things would work well hand in hand. 5 hp a second, plus whatever hp regen is. Presence would still be beneficial, too.

Lionbite · October 22, 2018 8:31AM

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

JediPacoElFlaco · October 22, 2018 12:12PM

Lionbite wrote: »

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

Anti-tank purposes: Ion neutralizer
Explosive expert: mines

Besides he puts blaster cannon, astromech droids and increase auto reparation rate of the near vehicles like a good mechanic.

UnknownGamer · October 22, 2018 4:14PM

Lionbite wrote: »

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

Unfortunately, ariel has this and it only really gets used on troopers for the most part.

Lionbite · October 23, 2018 1:00PM

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Lionbite wrote: »

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

Unfortunately, ariel has this and it only really gets used on troopers for the most part.

And doesn't do any damage to them ;T

UnknownGamer · October 23, 2018 4:55PM

Lionbite wrote: »

UnknownGamer wrote: »

Lionbite wrote: »

We all agree we need true classes with purposes like in Battlefield/RedOrchestra-Rising Storm than what we got now right?

Also the engineer should have a rocket launcher for anti-tank purposes, he is supposed to be the explosive expert in every armies.

Unfortunately, ariel has this and it only really gets used on troopers for the most part.

And doesn't do any damage to them ;T

No, it kills troopers. OHK when I use it.

JediPacoElFlaco · October 31, 2018 11:58AM

Engineer skins for the clones:

1 - Phase I

During the Phase I stage of Clone Troopers, the Grand Army of the Republic utilized repurposed clone pilots to fulfill the role of the engineer
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