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Officer bp nerf... And buff.

UnknownGamer
1928 posts Member
edited October 2018
Officer, noob tube or valuable team player? Seems to be a very polarizing issue.

So I am gonna be the moderate person here.
Please note that anything following, "Complaint: " is merely a comment collected from the forum, it is not my opinion. The part on the following line is my refutal or solution.
Guns
Complaint:S-5 3 shot kills me.
S-1 has a slow rate of fire , recoil, etc. Leave it alone.
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Complaint: Bluurg one burst shot kills me.
Burst was toned down, so you need headshots. And if you land those, I'm gonna have to say you deserve the kill.
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Complaint: Why can the SE-44C shoot like a CR-2 and kill me in one second?
Have not seen it eneugh to know, but I think it gets spread at longer ranges, a bit of a range falloff, and rapid fire is not the CR-2. I think it also might do less damage.
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Abilities
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Complaint: Flash nades make me a sitting duck.
Well, that is the point. It's not exactly dealing damage like a thermal detonator. Now with that said, let us crouch when getting naded. No running, as it is part of the point... Then it'l be fine. Less of a sitting duck. We can already roll.
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Complaint: Noob tube bp gain machine.
As for bp gain, the issue is battle command. So, only give bp if the blaster is fired for unlimited cooling, and only if damage is taken or hp is missing with the hp buff version. Recharge command? Only give bp for each ability taken out of recharge. But buff the bp gain for sucessful commands, because it is an important class. 150 or so per ability taken out of recharge(not including your own), 300bp if damage is taken or an ally is missing hp for the duration of the buff(not including the officer). And give 300bp if the blaster is fired when unlimited cooling is given(not including the officer). Then quadruple the assist bp gained, but only give bp while they are buffed.

With these changes, I believe the officer will be much more rewarding for team players, but not a cheap bp gain unit for running around uselessly buffing allies with. Teams will feel more like that, a team. Just try it. Then people will stop complaing and everyone will be happy. Now that leaves one question...
What is this post proposing? A buff? A nerf?
The answer is... Yes. That way the class is made more meaningful, not a hunk of junk that no kne will ever use.
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  • Bump.
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  • bfloo
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    The officer itself is fine, except for the bp exploit.

    Fix that, less will use it, and they wont be so bad.

    Why do we die to so many officers, because they are the majority of the other team at times.
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  • bfloo wrote: »
    The officer itself is fine, except for the bp exploit.

    Fix that, less will use it, and they wont be so bad.

    Why do we die to so many officers, because they are the majority of the other team at times.

    Yeah, that kinda sums it up. Bo exploit can be fixed by usefulness of the command being the dictator for how much bo is gained.
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  • I get one shot killed A LOT more times then anything an officer does by vanguard, so maybe we should start talking about nerfing that... Btw, I use the SE44 and it CANNOT kill anything in 1 second and it's rate of fire is far less than the CR2. When making gross exaggerations like that you won't be taken seriously and it sounds more like a post made just after getting killed by what you're complaining about. The problem I have with the blurrg is that it's an all or nothing. You will either get hit by the entire thing or nothing but when hit anyplace it takes away most of your health but the balance is that it goes into cool down faster than the SE44 which has a higher single shot rate of fire but less accuracy at range and does less damage. The officers are getting a nerf so let's wait until afterwards before asking for the same thing over and over.
  • UnknownGamer
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    edited October 2018
    I get one shot killed A LOT more times then anything an officer does by vanguard, so maybe we should start talking about nerfing that... Btw, I use the SE44 and it CANNOT kill anything in 1 second and it's rate of fire is far less than the CR2. When making gross exaggerations like that you won't be taken seriously and it sounds more like a post made just after getting killed by what you're complaining about. The problem I have with the blurrg is that it's an all or nothing. You will either get hit by the entire thing or nothing but when hit anyplace it takes away most of your health but the balance is that it goes into cool down faster than the SE44 which has a higher single shot rate of fire but less accuracy at range and does less damage. The officers are getting a nerf so let's wait until afterwards before asking for the same thing over and over.

    No gun nerf. Guns are great as they are. Bp nerf, and bp buff. Just quoting other complaints in regards to the guns, and disputing them. What kind of nerf is he getting? The weapons are fine(and I main assault, not officer). Will update OP to fix ambiguity.
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  • 4.Darth Vader<3.enemyEp attack in 1s=500dmg<2.rey<1.officer. Wall?Thermadetonator?shock? No problem,just kill me.It's okay if I hit six times,still lives,I'm gonna die.
  • 4.Darth Vader<3.enemyEp attack in 1s=500dmg<2.rey<1.officer. Wall?Thermadetonator?shock? No problem,just kill me.It's okay if I hit six times,still lives,I'm gonna die.

    Did not completely understand that as I know minimal abbreviations, but seems like officer is killing Vader. But how much hp is Vader at, and are 5 other people gunning for him?
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  • If I'm not mistaken it's to the bp again while using abilities but that's just rumor I think. I find that lately, either by changing my style of play or I'm getting better aim...not, I can get points just as quickly with a specialist or assault. I really don't play heavies much except on Crait or if strafers are urking me too much. I tend to play what I can do best based on current objective on any map. I just hope they get rid of all that bp gain at the start of the round for officers. Points earned for pointless use.

  • If I'm not mistaken it's to the bp again while using abilities but that's just rumor I think. I find that lately, either by changing my style of play or I'm getting better aim...not, I can get points just as quickly with a specialist or assault. I really don't play heavies much except on Crait or if strafers are urking me too much. I tend to play what I can do best based on current objective on any map. I just hope they get rid of all that bp gain at the start of the round for officers. Points earned for pointless use.
    It really depends on your playstyle and what guns you own. O can't use the A280 for the life of me, but apparently its OP. Guess I'm just bad. But then I shoot you down with my CR-2 at mid range. This would eliminate pointless buffs in the end. Also keep in mind you get around 125 bp for every kill an assisted team mate gets after you buff them.
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  • Nerf and buff. Will that be 'nuff?
  • Nerf and buff. Will that be 'nuff?

    Yeah. Nuff said.
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  • Officer, noob tube or valuable team player? Seems to be a very polarizing issue.

    So I am gonna be the moderate person here.
    Please note that anything following, "Complaint: " is merely a comment collected from the forum, it is not my opinion. The part on the following line is my refutal or solution.

    Complaint: Bluurg one burst shot kills me.
    Burst was toned down, so you need headshots. And if you land those, I'm gonna have to say you deserve the kill.
    DICE didn't nerf Blurrg. They nerfed Burst. Big difference. The base Blurrg damage needed to lowered about 33%. Officers are using pistols, not rifles, and the damage should reflect that. When a Heavy gets easily outclassed by a pea shooter pistol, you know the weapon damage system needs to be completely re-evaluated.

    Complaint: Why can the SE-44C shoot like a CR-2 and kill me in one second?
    Have not seen it eneugh to know, but I think it gets spread at longer ranges, a bit of a range falloff, and rapid fire is not the CR-2. I think it also might do less damage.
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    Its not just SE-44C unmodded. Its the broken Auto-Fire. It can mow through a Hero in under 2 second without overheating. This is what Heavy weapons should be doing.
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    Complaint: Flash nades make me a sitting duck.
    Well, that is the point. It's not exactly dealing damage like a thermal detonator. Now with that said, let us crouch when getting naded. No running, as it is part of the point... Then it'l be fine. Less of a sitting duck. We can already roll.
    The Flash grenade Star Card where it breaks into 5 pieces needs to be nerfed. Its still blinding players for 5 seconds even though DICE fixed the unmodded version. Also its shouldn't 100% hit you with white screen. It should be like Boba Fett's weapon where when your hit give you something. After being it by Flash I should still have 10-15% vision to be able to defend myself instead of being a sitting duck.

    Flash grenade does deal a good amount of damage, when it shouldn't deal any. It does roughly 50 points damage. Its built to strictly blind, not injure.
  • When an Officer pistol can easily outclass any Heavy weapon the whole weapon system needs to completely re-evaluated.
  • vonVile wrote: »
    When an Officer pistol can easily outclass any Heavy weapon the whole weapon system needs to completely re-evaluated.

    That is the point. More hp = less dps. And they just land headshots, btw. Skill. Bp evaluation, not weapons.
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  • vonVile wrote: »
    When an Officer pistol can easily outclass any Heavy weapon the whole weapon system needs to completely re-evaluated.

    Then people will complain that heavy is to op...it's a never ending cycle. Just fix the officer's bp gain and flash grenade and leave everything else as it is.
  • vonVile wrote: »
    When an Officer pistol can easily outclass any Heavy weapon the whole weapon system needs to completely re-evaluated.

    Then people will complain that heavy is to op...it's a never ending cycle. Just fix the officer's bp gain and flash grenade and leave everything else as it is.

    I mean, it is more the number of nades present at a time. Thermal grenades ohk, so does the officer's if he shoots at you. It really seems fine.
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