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Why is there so many "bad" players?

Vehzx
4 posts Member
edited December 12
Now, once seeing this you probably think i'm being an .. with a big ego but hear me out. I play alot of FPS games, have done for some time and it seems in this game everyone is either a child or just new to gaming in general?

I've been playing for 3 days now, within those 3 days I hit max on specialist and i'm around level 25 as the main rank thing. Within 3 days, and being completely new to the game with no prior experience I am dropping 40-50 kills a game (mainly in strike, blast and extraction modes) since i'm not really a fan of Galactic Assault, it's just not for me I guess.

I also have a job etc so it's not like i'm playing everyday all day, yet it seems i'm way above everyone else in skill (and once again I don't mean to sound like a ... with an ego). I understand playing video games isn't everyones passtime and so some players play less and have less experience resulting in not being as good, but this is like every game as least 3/4ths of the enemy team and my own team are just complete noob-like players?

I play specialist with hardened infiltration, which I know is currently one of the strongest perks in the game (at least in my opinion) but even still when playing Assault class the game just seems too easy, rarely I see other good players matching my kills in games. I understand kills is not everything and winning with playing the objective is important, but even when trying to play objective I feel you should be able to drop at least 10 kills per games, maybe even 15 - 20.

There have been multiple instances where i've been called out for cheating even though i've only played for 3 days. I understand if people are have a **** game they use excuses like this but I don't even think i'm that great and yet people are calling me out for cheating etc.

I uploaded some gameplay so you guys can see for yourselves some of the enemies I get put against, it just isn't making sense to me as a brand new player, I thought i'd struggle with the game for some time before being a decent player but it seems that's not the case.

Gameplay:

As said before, I don't mean to come of as an ... with a big ego, this is just my thoughts and experience with my first 3 days of playing.
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  • d0kRX
    1144 posts Member
    edited November 20
    Wow I wish I were like you. I probably average 5-20 kills per game. I also run specialist.
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  • d0kRX wrote: »
    Wow I wish I were like you. I probably average 5-20 kills per game. I also run specialist.

    I usually average around 30 and never usually go lower, if it's a good lobby it could be higher I think my highest was around 65. (i'm not sure if you're console player but if you are) I feel it's harder to play on console or maybe it's just I hate using a controller but I feel the game plays way differently on console, both in how players play and what they play with.
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  • d0kRX
    1144 posts Member
    Vehzx wrote: »
    d0kRX wrote: »
    Wow I wish I were like you. I probably average 5-20 kills per game. I also run specialist.

    I usually average around 30 and never usually go lower, if it's a good lobby it could be higher I think my highest was around 65. (i'm not sure if you're console player but if you are) I feel it's harder to play on console or maybe it's just I hate using a controller but I feel the game plays way differently on console, both in how players play and what they play with.

    Yeah I'm on PS4, but there is people as good as you on PS4 cuz I see players with your types of stats every game almost anyway.
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  • casual game. I know a lot players that this game, or the last, was their first fps type game ever.

    Some players just want to live out their Star Wars fantasies and could care less about PTO or being good.
  • I'm on ps4. My record in GA is 99 elims with 82 kills. As officer. Average around 50. Depends on how hard i try.
  • Many reasons to it, first the disastrous launch of the game make the seasoned players of video games run away, second it's star wars, not the most competitive player base, there is a ton of children and older players, I've seen 12 years old on pc and people in their forties. The game modes you play also, you are playing less populated game mode, the better players in majority play GA and HVV.
    In every fps I played before (cs, overwatch...), I was an above average player not amazing, just above your common player. On battlefront 2 if I officer on my own (with out friends or clan) I'm pretty much guarantied the top spot of the game and top 3/5 on any other class or most eliminations if I play a hero, so yeah people are weaker in this game.
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  • casual game. I know a lot players that this game, or the last, was their first fps type game ever.

    Some players just want to live out their Star Wars fantasies and could care less about PTO or being good.

    Yeah I can get that but it just seems it's alot more common in this game compared to others
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  • I'm on ps4. My record in GA is 99 elims with 82 kills. As officer. Average around 50. Depends on how hard i try.

    I'm not sure how the PS4 scene works or how the meta is etc but nice
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  • Many reasons to it, first the disastrous launch of the game make the seasoned players of video games run away, second it's star wars, not the most competitive player base, there is a ton of children and older players, I've seen 12 years old on pc and people in their forties. The game modes you play also, you are playing less populated game mode, the better players in majority play GA and HVV.
    In every fps I played before (cs, overwatch...), I was an above average player not amazing, just above your common player. On battlefront 2 if I officer on my own (with out friends or clan) I'm pretty much guarantied the top spot of the game and top 3/5 on any other class or most eliminations if I play a hero, so yeah people are weaker in this game.

    Yeah just a personal thing i'm not a fan of the heroes, but GA became more bareable now the weekend cheap heroes mode has ended. Whilst that was on it was so boring for me, constantly dying to heroes the whole game lol
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  • Vehzx wrote: »
    casual game. I know a lot players that this game, or the last, was their first fps type game ever.

    Some players just want to live out their Star Wars fantasies and could care less about PTO or being good.

    Yeah I can get that but it just seems it's alot more common in this game compared to others

    It is more common because a lot of SW fans, who don't play multiplayer games, will play this because it's a SW game.
  • There are a lot of bad players simply because many of us are Star Wars fans and prior to the BF series we never played online games like this. Many people here grew up with controllers in their had...I grew up having to move programs back and forth from high and low memory just to be able to play them and my first computer was a radio shack tsr-80. It's harder to build the skill to play these when you are older than if you grew up playing online games like this, but we'll keep trying anyway and try to find our niche in the game because for all of our complaining, we still enjoy it even if we are bad at it.
  • Bravo G_Funk24 and Dingbattin_1000 - I'm happy to join you in the mediocre club. I score from 1 to about 45 in GA usually avg around 15-25. I dont play much other than HvV and GA with the occasional SA. I have still put in enough "fail" time to get my Armor, Enforcer, and 3 of the four classes fully-leveled up (Assault is my last at level 51). I too have a job and a life. I get heroes lk etc frequently than I like but enough to keep me playing.

    I am betting that you guys, like me, are focused on trying to enjoy an objective, team-oriented game. Just trying differentiate this game from simply another glorified death-match-like COD clone. As such, you sometimes have to take one for the team. You probably don't mind. You dont get the top of the leaderboards because you are in there in the middle of the juggernaut to trying to hold it (or take it) rather than dancing around on the periphery of the battle harvesting easy kills. Maybe you are actually that bad after all, maybe the game still doesn't give you an appropriate an award for PTO, but you ultimately dont care because the fun is in the team play not in being at the top of the leaderboard.

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  • Vehzx wrote: »
    I play alot of FPS games, have done for some time and ...

    There is your answer. You have experience with FPS and let me guess, you care about your gear. If I watch your video, I can see, all your abilities are chosen for mouse. That make it more efficient. I did this too, I bought a mouse with three buttons on the left side. They are connected to my three abilities.
    I bet there are a lot of players using the default settings.
    Then I guess you care about the Dpi, your mouse pad and so on. Again I bet a lot don't adjust this that much.
    That is my opinion.
  • Just to point out, if you’ve only been playing for 3 days then in fact you have played everyday.

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  • casual game. I know a lot players that this game, or the last, was their first fps type game ever.

    Some players just want to live out their Star Wars fantasies and could care less about PTO or being good.

    (Stands up to take a bow)

    Battlefield (and to a lesser extent GTAV) is the game I take overly serious and rage all night and grind my controller into fine black plastic powder from gripping so hard and every time I die is an insult to my manhood and my ancestors...

    Battlefront is the game where I zone out to the scenery and the colors and music and look at the pretty lasers all over the place and if I die in an outrageous manner I'm ROFL instead of raging... Battlefront mercifully drops the pretense and doesn't take itself so seriously and there's a lot of intentional/unintentional humor on display (It helps for me at least that KDR isn't tracked in-game because I did rage quite a bit more over BF2015)...

    Ironically, I'm so-so on a good day in Battlefield planes, but in Starfighter Assault I'm almost always at the top at the end... Go figure...
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  • G_Funk24 wrote: »
    I am one of those bad players

    I've watched countless videos on youtube on how to improve, tip 'n' tricks etc.. all very good and helpful but hasn't really made a huge difference to me.

    As well as being bad I am also one of those people who seems to spawn into a seemingly safe place only to be mowed down 1 second later by someone, I get killed hiding behind walls somehow, If i'm moving in a large group of players and someone shoots or throws a grenade i'll be the only one killed, I always bump into Hero's even though i do everything to avoid them and the amount of times I pepper someone with shots (which hit)only for them to turn around and 1 or 2 shot me with ease and then see that they have a loads of health left is irritating to say the least.

    Sometimes the learning curve can be tough. What helped me was a suggestion on this forum. Work on headshot achievement in arcade, play 3rd person always, and when aiming at anyone (arcade inculded) aim higher than you think or feel comfortable. I was always aiming to low, you probably are too. My other piece of advice, I don't care if I die.... That's what makes me dangerous.
  • I’m sure you would call me a bad player, like others have said before, this is the only game I play (I have tried others but they don’t hold my interest for long) it’s my second only online game (or offline with anything more than a joystick with a single button!!), the first was BF15, I play because it’s Star Wars, it holds my attention because its Star Wars, I play for fun and not because I have aspirations for greatness.

    I play the objective, not for kills, I use a load out that supports my team and not just me (I use scrambled infiltration not hardened because it’s good for the team, especially in small modes). So often do I see a good player spawn killing or camping choke points just for the kills and their team loses because kills are more important to them.

    I don’t understand why you are complaining surely coming in and wrecking us old Nerf herders is great for your ego! (I know you don’t mean to sound like a **** with an ego but you do!)

    Perhaps if you’d got the game when it came out you would have found it more challenging as most of the players have moved on and it’s just us casual player/BF fans left now.
  • d0kRX wrote: »
    Wow I wish I were like you.
    Same, must be blissful having brain damage.
  • OcDoc
    470 posts Member
    WAIT...

    I am checking out your video and at 3:20 you overheat your weapon and have no back up weapons available. You are about to be killed and you magically shoot the guy who is about to kill you while in cool down.

    You cheating bro? How do you explain that? And maybe now I can see why you want to stay on PC.

    You are using the rapid fire ability PC gives you along with the power of sniper guns to effectively run and gun with the sniper class and therefore an effectively OP weapon.

    Let’s see how you do over here on east coast US PS4. I am not impressed.
  • Zinjo
    164 posts Member
    I play on a console, but I suspect I'd be a lot more dangerous on my PC as that is how I've played most of my FPS games in the past. That being said, as already stated many just don't know how to tweak out their settings for maximum effect.
    Then in some cases there is still the lag issue.
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  • OcDoc wrote: »
    WAIT...

    I am checking out your video and at 3:20 you overheat your weapon and have no back up weapons available. You are about to be killed and you magically shoot the guy who is about to kill you while in cool down.

    You cheating bro? How do you explain that? And maybe now I can see why you want to stay on PC.

    You are using the rapid fire ability PC gives you along with the power of sniper guns to effectively run and gun with the sniper class and therefore an effectively OP weapon.

    Let’s see how you do over here on east coast US PS4. I am not impressed.

    I didn't notice he was on cool down but did see his gun wasn't even pointing anywhere near the guy who died. Did someone else save his backside?
  • DeionG
    13 posts Member
    edited December 12
    is your internet connection slow. as the game favors slower internet connections you can easily get lag kills easy. its a big thing in this game for people to throttle there connections for easy lag kills. however people with slower connections get huge favor boost from their slow connections. its just the frostbite sdk being the frostbite sdk. watching the video I see some people with cr2 guns hitting you in and no damage done to you in some parts of the game, suggests possibly your connection might be slow.. and since the cr2 blurts out and can go through metal objects/ walls fairly easily. it seems almost impossible not to get hit. unless your connection is slow, or you throttle it. not that I am saying you do, but lots of people do for the easy lag kills. but since this game has so many weapons that you don't even have to aim. this game was made for casual gamers.
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    I don't know watched it again and seen times you get hit and you only lose less then 8 points at a shot that is real close from a cr2 which isn't really a single shot. but fast bursts... if you aren't throttling. you must be on a slow connection.. Its difficult to validate throttling which is cheating and just being on a crappy connection.. which isn't really cheating but sucks since they sdk is heavily favorable to slower connections.. but I can understand their point of view. saw you right next to a flame thrower and sorry you would be dead that close..
  • Wiatowski wrote: »
    G_Funk24 wrote: »
    I am one of those bad players

    I've watched countless videos on youtube on how to improve, tip 'n' tricks etc.. all very good and helpful but hasn't really made a huge difference to me.

    As well as being bad I am also one of those people who seems to spawn into a seemingly safe place only to be mowed down 1 second later by someone, I get killed hiding behind walls somehow, If i'm moving in a large group of players and someone shoots or throws a grenade i'll be the only one killed, I always bump into Hero's even though i do everything to avoid them and the amount of times I pepper someone with shots (which hit)only for them to turn around and 1 or 2 shot me with ease and then see that they have a loads of health left is irritating to say the least.

    Sometimes the learning curve can be tough. What helped me was a suggestion on this forum. Work on headshot achievement in arcade, play 3rd person always, and when aiming at anyone (arcade inculded) aim higher than you think or feel comfortable. I was always aiming to low, you probably are too. My other piece of advice, I don't care if I die.... That's what makes me dangerous.

    I love it
  • Not everyone can be good. I'm not great but I have had 50+ a a few times. I'm ps4 and I have seen plenty of less than 10 a lot from players. They'll cathch up to a degree. I just wish I could perfect this one punch tech I see from the specialist class. I mean one punch? Instant death even as heavy class? I have been killed simultaneously with a team mate by the same single punch. How is that even a thing? I know off topic. But why?
  • Undead_Corsair
    61 posts Member
    edited December 14
    I think the skill range of the player base is really broad, also everyone's got different priorities, some people are competitive, some people are trying to get heroes, some people are just in it for vehicles, some people are trying to rack up kills, others focus on the objective and plenty are just here cus it's Star Wars. I would not be playing this game if it didn't look and sound like Star Wars. Personally I do whatever I want in the moment, sometimes that means playing a starfighter in GA, sometimes I'm taking the defensive support role as the officer, sometimes I'm being an **** sniping while making no contribution to the objective. I usually play the objective though because it feels really awesome to turn a whole match around by putting down a shield in just the right place, or clearing a room of enemies with a grenade launcher, or bringing a fresh AT-TE into the fight just when it's needed.
    I've also nearly maxed out ever class now, and unlocked all the gun mods. My advice is if you are finding it really easy, be happy that you're a boss, or if the lack of challenge is getting dull change your mode, or your class, or your loadout. Try something different. Variety is the spice of life. Try some starfighter assault, it's actually one of the best modes in the game imo, but maybe I'm biased cus I'm actually pretty good at that one (I'm a die hard ace combat fan).
  • For Galactic Assault the game objectives can be confusing for new players. With the objectives constantly changing and there are some that require you to hold a button and some to plant a bomb and it always changes so newer players can get confused. Also where you need to defend the walkers and there is a defend icon and color then there is an opposite color that says defend on the ion disruptors. Now it becomes clear when you play more but my girlfriend and other friends are always like wait what do I defend. As a game play design that seems confusing. and with no offline mode to practice, or any MP tips lists or something players don't really know and have to learn while getting shot at. You have the announcer but everything is all happening at once the game can feel cluttered. So that confusion can lead to uncertainty and hinder gameplay performance. imo
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  • Zinjo
    164 posts Member
    edited December 17
    I've also nearly maxed out ever class now, and unlocked all the gun mods. My advice is if you are finding it really easy, be happy that you're a boss, or if the lack of challenge is getting dull change your mode, or your class, or your loadout. Try something different. Variety is the spice of life. Try some starfighter assault, it's actually one of the best modes in the game imo, but maybe I'm biased cus I'm actually pretty good at that one (I'm a die hard ace combat fan).
    Makes sense to me.
    Creative limitations.
    Limit what you will allow for yourself; like only make head shot kills, or as Undead Corsair said focus only on the objective.
    How about be first to the objective and try to hold it by yourself until your team mates arrive? That would be a big challenge for a skilled player.
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  • Zinjo wrote: »
    I've also nearly maxed out ever class now, and unlocked all the gun mods. My advice is if you are finding it really easy, be happy that you're a boss, or if the lack of challenge is getting dull change your mode, or your class, or your loadout. Try something different. Variety is the spice of life. Try some starfighter assault, it's actually one of the best modes in the game imo, but maybe I'm biased cus I'm actually pretty good at that one (I'm a die hard ace combat fan).
    Makes sense to me.
    Creative limitations.
    Limit what you will allow for yourself; like only make head shot kills, or as Undead Corsair said focus only on the objective.
    How about be first to the objective and try to hold it by yourself until your team mates arrive? That would be a big challenge for a skilled player.

    I've had the gun mods unlocked for ages and my regular troops have all hit 50 (officer 70). As much as I love the S-5's design, sound, and handling, I've started playing it with assault, heavy, and officers all having their default pistols (not done it with specialists as they only have one good close/mid-range gun). I've found it makes the experience feel a bit fresher, a bit more immersive, and also adds a bit more of a challenge. :)
  • Zinjo
    164 posts Member
    edited 2:38AM
    Majike wrote: »

    I've had the gun mods unlocked for ages and my regular troops have all hit 50 (officer 70). As much as I love the S-5's design, sound, and handling, I've started playing it with assault, heavy, and officers all having their default pistols (not done it with specialists as they only have one good close/mid-range gun). I've found it makes the experience feel a bit fresher, a bit more immersive, and also adds a bit more of a challenge. :)
    That's a cool idea!
    I may have met you on a few maps. I do recall getting owned by someone using the stock weapons a couple of times ... ;)

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