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Nerf Darth Vader and General Grievous’ health on kill cards to +50

Currently, Rey is only allowed to regain a maximum of +60 health for defeating a hero from Survivor. However, every other hero can regain +100 health in some fashion with their heal card active. Why is it fair that Rey is being discriminated against?

If someone wants to say it’s because she’s a Jedi-in-training, then why should someone like Finn and Phasma receive +100 for their heal? Rey’s Force sensitive while they aren’t. Additionally, Rey and Kylo are equals in the Force so either Rey should have +100 as Kylo does or Kylo should have his health card decreased to +60 as Rey’s currently is.

If someone wants to say it’s because she is somehow “overpowered” - as was stated in https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/124998/why-is-reys-health-on-kill-card-not-as-effective-as-the-others#latest - (and which is a joke in itself) then we should do what my title says: decrease Darth Vader and General Grievous’ health on kill cards to +50. Darth Vader and General Grievous deal substantially more damage than Rey does so if Rey is “overpowered” then that obviously entails that Vader and Grievous are, as well. Vader and Grievous have more saber damage, health, and much stronger abilities than Rey (especially whenever Grievous’ abilities are going to be patched in a few days). If we are discriminating against who can receive +100 health like everyone else due to in-game power then we must also nerf health on kill cards for characters that are stronger than Rey.

In essence, buff Rey’s card to +100 or nerf overpowered Vader’s and insane damage Grievous’ card to +50.

Thanks for reading.

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  • Also, why not need Iden’s heal on shock card since it grants +70 health per person shocked? It can shock several people every seven seconds. It will not be casted unless someone is available to shock. It is a guaranteed heal. If Rey’s +60 health on kill is just right for her since she’s “crazy OP,” then Iden’s +70 heal on shock is way too strong since she’s substantially stronger than Rey.
  • Nerf Rey
  • Landeaux wrote: »
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    5char

    My apologies if you perceive bringing up blatant imbalance in this game as “[stirring] up trouble.” Maybe a reason why this game is so unbalanced and infested with bugs is because people decide to troll threads that take issue with what’s gone on with this game since February instead of providing constructive feedback.

    Ehhh. Is his really an "issue". One of the new characters abilities does not work. Vaders choke still bugs out and locks you in the choking animation. There is an area in the first phase of yavin that walls you to enter the wall. On top of other things that actually effect game play.

    There are much more important things they need to focus on instead of "balancing" that isn't called for.

    Rey, Vader, and gg all go ham in the right hands. +50 or +100 health... It won't make much difference if you know (or don't know) what you're doing.
  • hsf_
    1618 posts Member
    Another nerf thread... ¬_¬
  • hsf_ wrote: »
    Another nerf thread... ¬_¬

    Actually it’s a thread calling out the lack of adjustment to Rey’s Survivor card.
  • Don't buff Rey, don't nerf Vader.
    Nerf Rey.
  • Defbored wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
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    5char

    My apologies if you perceive bringing up blatant imbalance in this game as “[stirring] up trouble.” Maybe a reason why this game is so unbalanced and infested with bugs is because people decide to troll threads that take issue with what’s gone on with this game since February instead of providing constructive feedback.

    Ehhh. Is his really an "issue". One of the new characters abilities does not work. Vaders choke still bugs out and locks you in the choking animation. There is an area in the first phase of yavin that walls you to enter the wall. On top of other things that actually effect game play.

    There are much more important things they need to focus on instead of "balancing" that isn't called for.

    Rey, Vader, and gg all go ham in the right hands. +50 or +100 health... It won't make much difference if you know (or don't know) what you're doing.

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  • Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.
  • This game obviously makes you unhappy, OP. Why do you play it?

    Seriously. Go play something else.
  • This game obviously makes you unhappy, OP. Why do you play it?

    Seriously. Go play something else.

    I’ve spent $100+ on this game. I expect it to work properly. I want it to be good. I use the forum to provide feedback on the game.
  • Admiral_Xen
    2628 posts Member
    edited November 2018
    Lmao nerf generol memevance? You're a good player, so I assume you're joking yes?

    He's probably going to be even worse post patch, given that two of his abilites are garbage not ever worth using even with their bugs fixed, and the lone ability that is actually useful (Claw Rush) currently benefits from a massive damage multi hit bug, which is pretty much the only thing making him viable right now.
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  • Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Luke is a beast. "You'll find many of the truths we cling to often depend on our point of view"
  • All this guy ever does is complain about how bad light side are and nerf vader. Buff rey buff luke ect
  • More Nerfs! Ya 1 year after launch nerf those cards! Ya
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  • How about we just remove hok cards all together?

    That's been my stance from the very beginning.
  • Raices
    1042 posts Member
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Actually he could use a buff in GA, he's OP in some situations in HvV.
  • Lmao nerf generol memevance? You're a good player, so I assume you're joking yes?

    He's probably going to be even worse post patch, given that two of his abilites are garbage not ever worth using even with their bugs fixed, and the lone ability that is actually useful (Claw Rush) currently benefits from a massive damage multi hit bug, which is pretty much the only thing making him viable right now.

    Actually I find gg is pretty good for HvV. He's a solid 8.5 I believe. In GA though he drops to maybe a 6.5 certainly better than phasma & boba on some maps & I would say his health regen makes him better than kylo. I think he'll be better in a couple days but that's just me
  • Game developer need to fix Grevious bug. From there on, let us judge Grevious from that point on. As of Lord Vader, if Chewie got nerf then so does Vader.

    OR no nerf to Vader but buff Luke, Chewie, and may be fix Rey.
  • just bring her card up to 100 like everyone else though I dont think vader does more damage then her outside of his choke/saber throw combo Rey will near insta melt you if she sneaks up on you. Grievous I can agree with though he has the highest damage right now.
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  • Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    He is a beast if you use the maps where he has the advantage.
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  • Raices wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Actually he could use a buff in GA, he's OP in some situations in HvV.

    He's fine in GA but he could use a small buff in HvV. I assume you're talking about pushing people off the map
  • Raices
    1042 posts Member
    Raices wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Actually he could use a buff in GA, he's OP in some situations in HvV.

    He's fine in GA but he could use a small buff in HvV. I assume you're talking about pushing people off the map

    Im talking about Vader
  • Raices wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Actually he could use a buff in GA, he's OP in some situations in HvV.

    He's fine in GA but he could use a small buff in HvV. I assume you're talking about pushing people off the map

    Im talking about Vader

    If two equally skilled players duel in a Luke vs Vader, Luke will always lose unless he can just throw Vader off the map.
  • Raices
    1042 posts Member
    Raices wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Actually he could use a buff in GA, he's OP in some situations in HvV.

    He's fine in GA but he could use a small buff in HvV. I assume you're talking about pushing people off the map

    Im talking about Vader

    If two equally skilled players duel in a Luke vs Vader, Luke will always lose unless he can just throw Vader off the map.

    Yeah Luke needs a buff to compete with Vader in HvV, but Vader isn't that good in GA anymore, so I don't want him nerfed, i prefer Luke(and Yoda) to be buffed to his level.
  • Raices wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Actually he could use a buff in GA, he's OP in some situations in HvV.

    He's fine in GA but he could use a small buff in HvV. I assume you're talking about pushing people off the map

    Im talking about Vader

    If two equally skilled players duel in a Luke vs Vader, Luke will always lose unless he can just throw Vader off the map.

    The game isn't balanced off of 1v1s
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  • Devlin21 wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Actually he could use a buff in GA, he's OP in some situations in HvV.

    He's fine in GA but he could use a small buff in HvV. I assume you're talking about pushing people off the map

    Im talking about Vader

    If two equally skilled players duel in a Luke vs Vader, Luke will always lose unless he can just throw Vader off the map.

    The game isn't balanced off of 1v1s

    And yet 1v1s play a huge role in Heroes vs Villains and Hero Showdown, the only mode where it has barely any effect is GA. Vader is much better than Luke in HvV and that can't be debated.
  • Devlin21 wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Actually he could use a buff in GA, he's OP in some situations in HvV.

    He's fine in GA but he could use a small buff in HvV. I assume you're talking about pushing people off the map

    Im talking about Vader

    If two equally skilled players duel in a Luke vs Vader, Luke will always lose unless he can just throw Vader off the map.

    The game isn't balanced

    Fixed it for you
  • Nah. Just buff Survivor. We don’t need any more nerfs for goodness sake.
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  • Devlin21 wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    He is a beast if you use the maps where he has the advantage.

    Ah, yes. The “Luke should only potentially be useful on certain parts of specific maps” argument. That doesn’t take into account if his terrible force abilities even register properly. Also, no decent player is going to continuously fall for juvenile tactics such as trying to push someone off of the map.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Nah. Just buff Survivor. We don’t need any more nerfs for goodness sake.


    This is more-so a thread to call out the hypocrisy that takes place within this community. They don’t want Rey to have a +100 health on kill card because she’s, “crazy OP” but they don’t want actual overpowered characters like Vader to have a card similar to Survivor.
  • unit900000 wrote: »
    just bring her card up to 100 like everyone else though I dont think vader does more damage then her outside of his choke/saber throw combo Rey will near insta melt you if she sneaks up on you. Grievous I can agree with though he has the highest damage right now.

    Vader out damages rey.
  • Landeaux wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Nah. Just buff Survivor. We don’t need any more nerfs for goodness sake.


    This is more-so a thread to call out the hypocrisy that takes place within this community. They don’t want Rey to have a +100 health on kill card because she’s, “crazy OP” but they don’t want actual overpowered characters like Vader to have a card similar to Survivor.

    Well vader can't go off the map, & is easy to hit. Rey & iden have 60 & 70 respectively it works it has for year.
  • Raices
    1042 posts Member
    Landeaux wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Nah. Just buff Survivor. We don’t need any more nerfs for goodness sake.


    This is more-so a thread to call out the hypocrisy that takes place within this community. They don’t want Rey to have a +100 health on kill card because she’s, “crazy OP” but they don’t want actual overpowered characters like Vader to have a card similar to Survivor.

    Well vader can't go off the map, & is easy to hit. Rey & iden have 60 & 70 respectively it works it has for year.

    Exactly, going off the map/wallhacks >>>>>anything Vader can offer.
  • Defbored wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
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    5char

    My apologies if you perceive bringing up blatant imbalance in this game as “[stirring] up trouble.” Maybe a reason why this game is so unbalanced and infested with bugs is because people decide to troll threads that take issue with what’s gone on with this game since February instead of providing constructive feedback.

    Ehhh. Is his really an "issue". One of the new characters abilities does not work. Vaders choke still bugs out and locks you in the choking animation. There is an area in the first phase of yavin that walls you to enter the wall. On top of other things that actually effect game play.

    There are much more important things they need to focus on instead of "balancing" that isn't called for.

    Rey, Vader, and gg all go ham in the right hands. +50 or +100 health... It won't make much difference if you know (or don't know) what you're doing.

    Doesn’t take a whole lot of brain power or focusing to change a number from “60” to “100”.
  • Lmao nerf generol memevance? You're a good player, so I assume you're joking yes?

    He's probably going to be even worse post patch, given that two of his abilites are garbage not ever worth using even with their bugs fixed, and the lone ability that is actually useful (Claw Rush) currently benefits from a massive damage multi hit bug, which is pretty much the only thing making him viable right now.

    How about the fact that he deals the absolute highest amount of saber damage? Seems like that makes him pretty viable.
  • Just buff Rey's HoK card to 100hp gained for a hero kill. There was no need to suggest a nerf to Vader, or Grievous of all characters.

    The devs probably thought Rey's insight gives her an early advantage and an easier kill on villains, hence the lower health gain on kill. Insight does give her a huge advantage, but at this stage it might as well be 100hp so every character has similar survivability.
  • DarthJ
    6064 posts Member
    Defbored wrote: »
    No.

    Stop that. Stop.

    I dont think I have agreed with defbored often but they summed it up perfectly
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  • Raices wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Landeaux wrote: »
    Vader isn't overpowered at all...

    Nice joke. It’s up there with your, “Luke is a beast” comment.

    Actually he could use a buff in GA, he's OP in some situations in HvV.

    He's fine in GA but he could use a small buff in HvV. I assume you're talking about pushing people off the map

    Im talking about Vader

    If two equally skilled players duel in a Luke vs Vader, Luke will always lose unless he can just throw Vader off the map.

    Yeah Luke needs a buff to compete with Vader in HvV, but Vader isn't that good in GA anymore, so I don't want him nerfed, i prefer Luke(and Yoda) to be buffed to his level.

    Likewise my friend
  • Oh go away with your constant Nerf threads
  • Please EA/DICE put all "NERF" threads on Ignore Mode.

    I'm really tired of this noobish cryfest.

    Just go get better at your gaming, because no matter how much nerf you ask for you will still suck if you don't improve your BF2 skills.
  • Piscettios
    5387 posts Member
    edited November 2018
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    How many actual 1v1’s happen in a match of HvV? Is this a hero showdown thing?

    What does 10, 20, 50, 100 health matter when we have MAJOR issues with the most basic of things. Why do we need to nitpick over 50 health when ‘the saber blob’ can just steam roll right through you when ever it desires. Stun locking, abilities not working as intended and sabers not properly blocking are still a major problem. IMO until or if these and other issues are not fixed, balancing heroes numbers on a triple beam doesn’t matter.
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  • Raices
    1042 posts Member
    Piscettios wrote: »
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    How many actual 1v1’s happen in a match of HvV? Is this a hero showdown thing?

    What does 10, 20, 50, 100 health matter when we have MAJOR issues with the most basic of things. Why do we need to nitpick over 50 health when ‘the saber blob’ can just steam roll right through you when ever it desires. Stun locking, abilities not working as intended and sabers not properly blocking are still a major problem. IMO until or if these and other issues are not fixed, balancing heroes numbers on a triple beam doesn’t matter.

    Quite a lot tbh
  • Raices wrote: »
    Piscettios wrote: »
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    How many actual 1v1’s happen in a match of HvV? Is this a hero showdown thing?

    What does 10, 20, 50, 100 health matter when we have MAJOR issues with the most basic of things. Why do we need to nitpick over 50 health when ‘the saber blob’ can just steam roll right through you when ever it desires. Stun locking, abilities not working as intended and sabers not properly blocking are still a major problem. IMO until or if these and other issues are not fixed, balancing heroes numbers on a triple beam doesn’t matter.

    Quite a lot tbh

    I get a few here and there.. often not at full health for myself or possibly the other player.. usually gets broken up by a third player. And the environment/ position also plays as much a role as how much health I just recovered from a kill.
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  • Raices
    1042 posts Member
    Piscettios wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Piscettios wrote: »
    2w7eqbf5dn8e.jpeg

    How many actual 1v1’s happen in a match of HvV? Is this a hero showdown thing?

    What does 10, 20, 50, 100 health matter when we have MAJOR issues with the most basic of things. Why do we need to nitpick over 50 health when ‘the saber blob’ can just steam roll right through you when ever it desires. Stun locking, abilities not working as intended and sabers not properly blocking are still a major problem. IMO until or if these and other issues are not fixed, balancing heroes numbers on a triple beam doesn’t matter.

    Quite a lot tbh

    I get a few here and there.. often not at full health for myself or possibly the other player.. usually gets broken up by a third player. And the environment/ position also plays as much a role as how much health I just recovered from a kill.

    This is also true
  • Bad idea, not nerfing already barley viable Heroes. I also noticed they nerfed the cards and enforcers no longer count as Heroes. They need to revert that, 20 HP is not enough compared to the HP you lose as melee.
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