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Buff Rey

With everyone asking for a buff, I think it's time we asked to Buff Rey.

She can defeat Kylo Ren. On more than one occasion. Once Kylo was saved by an earthquake - before Rey received any training, the other time Kylo had no recollection what happened to him after a duel with Rey.

Rey should get better over time.

Rey has no long range attack in this game, not a single one, so her damage output should be higher. Way higher. Like minimum base damage of 150 for anytime the saber touches anything that is not a hero. If heroes are scared then we can leave the hero damage as it is.

Luke can have differential damage for hero and non hero, so can Rey.

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  • No. She is strong and independent already. Drink less soy products.
  • No. Absolutely not.
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  • Wtf... no no no
  • Yeah definitely not.
  • She's already very strong in HvV and GA with Insight, the most useful ability in-game, and her combat animations are so fast. You can go in handle business, and leave without anyone noticing you. Especially when the heroes are left defenseless with no troops around.
  • Heroes should do more damage to infantry at least, too easy to roll their attacks and waste time when they should clearly be dead. I like the grievous model. At least an insta kill from behind.
  • Buff her Survivor to +100 health regained for killing a hero (I.e. equal to every other health card in the game)
  • Landeaux2 wrote: »
    Buff her Survivor to +100 health regained for killing a hero (I.e. equal to every other health card in the game)

    Revert the nerf to Health gained rom Aerials and enforcers as well. Needs to be back to 100 for the damage they can inflict.
  • She is way underpowered. She needs her mind trick reverted to launch, her insight reverted to launch, her dodge speed reverted to launch, as well as she needs to be given a saber throw similar to Vaders, but with a knockdown... only then will she be balanced.
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  • JediJulius
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    edited December 6
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.
  • JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke
  • JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    For winning GA matches Rey remains the most powerful hero in the game... and she will likely retain that title as long as her wallhacks remain a thing... I mean, its a team wide wallhack... nothing more needs to be said lol.
  • JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.
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    Or, send her back to Jakku and kill that map. I think she's a good balance to GA (mind tricks galore with Kenobi added). And, I think it's important to keep her level with Kylo (IMO)
  • Talking as a person that uses Rey every single time it’s possible I have to disagree, she’s quite balanced right now. The only buff I would suggest is to change the max amount of health gained with survivor from 60 to 70-80
  • JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable
  • t3hBar0n wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    For winning GA matches Rey remains the most powerful hero in the game... and she will likely retain that title as long as her wallhacks remain a thing... I mean, its a team wide wallhack... nothing more needs to be said lol.

    I wouldn't say that yoda & Finn bossk & Palp are all more powerful than the girl
  • t3hBar0n wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    For winning GA matches Rey remains the most powerful hero in the game... and she will likely retain that title as long as her wallhacks remain a thing... I mean, its a team wide wallhack... nothing more needs to be said lol.

    I wouldn't say that yoda & Finn bossk & Palp are all more powerful than the girl

    In isolation I agree... in a team environment I disagree 100%. Insight is by far the most powerful ability in the game as it instantly potentially gives all 20 players on your team wallhacks... no other hero has anything even close to that scale of power.
  • JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    oh joy another person that is trash with Luke maybe learn how to use Luke instead of trash talking him?
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  • t3hBar0n wrote: »
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    For winning GA matches Rey remains the most powerful hero in the game... and she will likely retain that title as long as her wallhacks remain a thing... I mean, its a team wide wallhack... nothing more needs to be said lol.

    I wouldn't say that yoda & Finn bossk & Palp are all more powerful than the girl

    In isolation I agree... in a team environment I disagree 100%. Insight is by far the most powerful ability in the game as it instantly potentially gives all 20 players on your team wallhacks... no other hero has anything even close to that scale of power.

    Finn undercover team lol.
  • A. Your either really bad with Rey.
    B. You really bad at the game.
    C. Rey fanboy longing for the Last Jedi to become the greatest ever Star Wars film.

    She is a beast and needs no buffing… pretty balanced player
  • t3hBar0n wrote: »
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    For winning GA matches Rey remains the most powerful hero in the game... and she will likely retain that title as long as her wallhacks remain a thing... I mean, its a team wide wallhack... nothing more needs to be said lol.

    I wouldn't say that yoda & Finn bossk & Palp are all more powerful than the girl

    In isolation I agree... in a team environment I disagree 100%. Insight is by far the most powerful ability in the game as it instantly potentially gives all 20 players on your team wallhacks... no other hero has anything even close to that scale of power.

    Finn undercover team lol.

    Doesn't provide nearly as much Intel as Rey.
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  • JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable

    Actually, Mind tricking anyone like the Emperor while near troopers is way more effective than pushing him away. It literally can ruin an emperor if you have any shooter worth his salt. And no decent Rey player will ever use Mind trick from the front, always from behind or on a target not focusing you. Pretty easy to do with Insight. And considering that getting a dash strike on someone like Bossk means pretty much instant death is way better than Luke. Tbh I would take Rey over Luke every time in GA because I know that I can at least be more useful to my team, and Overall have a better chance at killing the Emperor and Vader, and other heroes. Luke is okay, but really Rush is his only consistent move, too many times will Repulse hit someone and not do crap, guaranteeing that you lost more than 250 health.

    Rey cannot outduel Luke? Don't kid yourself, we both know that Rey is way better at dueling than Luke, Rey can simply turtle and wait for Luke to do anything, and Luke simply cannot break her block. If he hits her block, that's a dash strike into at minimum two confirmed hits, which means Luke is only able to control how slowly he wants to die. Like honestly, Luke would not win that fight, I'm sorry. I wish he could, but he simply won't, assuming players are of equal skill.

    Rey in HvV can take a team of Four and make them way less effective, reveal the enemy teams position, and effectively sneak up on targets and take them out pretty easily. She is one of the better sabers simply because of higher damage. Luke can disrupt enemies more effectively, but cannot deal with them well enough, the only thing Luke has is an undodgeable strike.

    Overall, Luke could be better in HvV, but Rey is definitely the BEST in GA. Consistent abilities, Infinite stamina, a mind trick that essentially a death trap to heroes when near troopers, and a consistent Dash strike that can get up to 600 damage on blaster heroes.
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  • Axone
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    The only thing that Rey buff that need is revert her dash strike back; when she is able to knock and deal damage even when the enemy villain use block.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable

    Actually, Mind tricking anyone like the Emperor while near troopers is way more effective than pushing him away. It literally can ruin an emperor if you have any shooter worth his salt. And no decent Rey player will ever use Mind trick from the front, always from behind or on a target not focusing you. Pretty easy to do with Insight. And considering that getting a dash strike on someone like Bossk means pretty much instant death is way better than Luke. Tbh I would take Rey over Luke every time in GA because I know that I can at least be more useful to my team, and Overall have a better chance at killing the Emperor and Vader, and other heroes. Luke is okay, but really Rush is his only consistent move, too many times will Repulse hit someone and not do crap, guaranteeing that you lost more than 250 health.

    Rey cannot outduel Luke? Don't kid yourself, we both know that Rey is way better at dueling than Luke, Rey can simply turtle and wait for Luke to do anything, and Luke simply cannot break her block. If he hits her block, that's a dash strike into at minimum two confirmed hits, which means Luke is only able to control how slowly he wants to die. Like honestly, Luke would not win that fight, I'm sorry. I wish he could, but he simply won't, assuming players are of equal skill.

    Rey in HvV can take a team of Four and make them way less effective, reveal the enemy teams position, and effectively sneak up on targets and take them out pretty easily. She is one of the better sabers simply because of higher damage. Luke can disrupt enemies more effectively, but cannot deal with them well enough, the only thing Luke has is an undodgeable strike.

    Overall, Luke could be better in HvV, but Rey is definitely the BEST in GA. Consistent abilities, Infinite stamina, a mind trick that essentially a death trap to heroes when near troopers, and a consistent Dash strike that can get up to 600 damage on blaster heroes.

    600 damage to blaster heroes? Great post but what do you mean by that?
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable

    Actually, Mind tricking anyone like the Emperor while near troopers is way more effective than pushing him away. It literally can ruin an emperor if you have any shooter worth his salt. And no decent Rey player will ever use Mind trick from the front, always from behind or on a target not focusing you. Pretty easy to do with Insight. And considering that getting a dash strike on someone like Bossk means pretty much instant death is way better than Luke. Tbh I would take Rey over Luke every time in GA because I know that I can at least be more useful to my team, and Overall have a better chance at killing the Emperor and Vader, and other heroes. Luke is okay, but really Rush is his only consistent move, too many times will Repulse hit someone and not do crap, guaranteeing that you lost more than 250 health.

    Rey cannot outduel Luke? Don't kid yourself, we both know that Rey is way better at dueling than Luke, Rey can simply turtle and wait for Luke to do anything, and Luke simply cannot break her block. If he hits her block, that's a dash strike into at minimum two confirmed hits, which means Luke is only able to control how slowly he wants to die. Like honestly, Luke would not win that fight, I'm sorry. I wish he could, but he simply won't, assuming players are of equal skill.

    Rey in HvV can take a team of Four and make them way less effective, reveal the enemy teams position, and effectively sneak up on targets and take them out pretty easily. She is one of the better sabers simply because of higher damage. Luke can disrupt enemies more effectively, but cannot deal with them well enough, the only thing Luke has is an undodgeable strike.

    Overall, Luke could be better in HvV, but Rey is definitely the BEST in GA. Consistent abilities, Infinite stamina, a mind trick that essentially a death trap to heroes when near troopers, and a consistent Dash strike that can get up to 600 damage on blaster heroes.

    600 damage to blaster heroes? Great post but what do you mean by that?

    Bossk can be killed by Rey if she uses Dash strike, hits him, then swings, he will be able to be hit in midair, meaning he will not be able to roll, then when he hits the ground, he still has to stand up, meaning you can simply swing and kill him. This goes for Iden, Phasma, and a few others, you just have to hit them in Midair right after the get knocked down by Dash Strike. So essentially It might as well be guaranteed. I haven't seen anyone survive that, or even have the chance to roll simply due to stagger.
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  • Rey is very powerful. She doesn't need a buff.
    Advice: git gud.
  • t3hBar0n wrote: »
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    For winning GA matches Rey remains the most powerful hero in the game... and she will likely retain that title as long as her wallhacks remain a thing... I mean, its a team wide wallhack... nothing more needs to be said lol.

    I wouldn't say that yoda & Finn bossk & Palp are all more powerful than the girl

    In isolation I agree... in a team environment I disagree 100%. Insight is by far the most powerful ability in the game as it instantly potentially gives all 20 players on your team wallhacks... no other hero has anything even close to that scale of power.

    Finn undercover team lol.

    What? That ability is not even a shadow of the utility Insight provides lol.
  • With everyone asking for a buff, I think it's time we asked to Buff Rey.

    She can defeat Kylo Ren. On more than one occasion. Once Kylo was saved by an earthquake - before Rey received any training, the other time Kylo had no recollection what happened to him after a duel with Rey.

    Rey should get better over time.

    Rey has no long range attack in this game, not a single one, so her damage output should be higher. Way higher. Like minimum base damage of 150 for anytime the saber touches anything that is not a hero. If heroes are scared then we can leave the hero damage as it is.

    Luke can have differential damage for hero and non hero, so can Rey.

    heroes dont need to be buffed anymore. theyre already way overpowered and too many of them on the field at once diluting the battlefront experience. the easier we can get rid of them the better.
  • I'm pretty good with Rey. She's probably my favorite hero to run with, so I'm biased maybe. But I don't think she needs a buff at all. If anything Insight should be reined in a little bit.
  • Oh boy... where do i begin with the feminist ****. No ray is already a mary sue. She literally the worst jedi character in existence- yes even that dark parasite women from the comics is better.

    She literally breaks every rule done. And in game her skills are op enough. No need to make her even more op. She needs a nerf if anything
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    Rey in HvV is a monster when played right, thankfully not many know how to utilise her for HvV
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable

    Actually, Mind tricking anyone like the Emperor while near troopers is way more effective than pushing him away. It literally can ruin an emperor if you have any shooter worth his salt. And no decent Rey player will ever use Mind trick from the front, always from behind or on a target not focusing you. Pretty easy to do with Insight. And considering that getting a dash strike on someone like Bossk means pretty much instant death is way better than Luke. Tbh I would take Rey over Luke every time in GA because I know that I can at least be more useful to my team, and Overall have a better chance at killing the Emperor and Vader, and other heroes. Luke is okay, but really Rush is his only consistent move, too many times will Repulse hit someone and not do crap, guaranteeing that you lost more than 250 health.

    Rey cannot outduel Luke? Don't kid yourself, we both know that Rey is way better at dueling than Luke, Rey can simply turtle and wait for Luke to do anything, and Luke simply cannot break her block. If he hits her block, that's a dash strike into at minimum two confirmed hits, which means Luke is only able to control how slowly he wants to die. Like honestly, Luke would not win that fight, I'm sorry. I wish he could, but he simply won't, assuming players are of equal skill.

    Rey in HvV can take a team of Four and make them way less effective, reveal the enemy teams position, and effectively sneak up on targets and take them out pretty easily. She is one of the better sabers simply because of higher damage. Luke can disrupt enemies more effectively, but cannot deal with them well enough, the only thing Luke has is an undodgeable strike.

    Overall, Luke could be better in HvV, but Rey is definitely the BEST in GA. Consistent abilities, Infinite stamina, a mind trick that essentially a death trap to heroes when near troopers, and a consistent Dash strike that can get up to 600 damage on blaster heroes.

    Mind trick doesn't affect veteran players. Rey also is not better for dueling at all luke is more versatile & heavily relies on the dash strike ability to do any damage. No veteran player is gonna hit her block knowing she has her ability waiting to happen
  • With everyone asking for a buff, I think it's time we asked to Buff Rey.

    She can defeat Kylo Ren. On more than one occasion. Once Kylo was saved by an earthquake - before Rey received any training, the other time Kylo had no recollection what happened to him after a duel with Rey.

    Rey should get better over time.

    Rey has no long range attack in this game, not a single one, so her damage output should be higher. Way higher. Like minimum base damage of 150 for anytime the saber touches anything that is not a hero. If heroes are scared then we can leave the hero damage as it is.

    Luke can have differential damage for hero and non hero, so can Rey.

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  • A buff Rey wouldn't be very feminine. I vote no.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable

    Actually, Mind tricking anyone like the Emperor while near troopers is way more effective than pushing him away. It literally can ruin an emperor if you have any shooter worth his salt. And no decent Rey player will ever use Mind trick from the front, always from behind or on a target not focusing you. Pretty easy to do with Insight. And considering that getting a dash strike on someone like Bossk means pretty much instant death is way better than Luke. Tbh I would take Rey over Luke every time in GA because I know that I can at least be more useful to my team, and Overall have a better chance at killing the Emperor and Vader, and other heroes. Luke is okay, but really Rush is his only consistent move, too many times will Repulse hit someone and not do crap, guaranteeing that you lost more than 250 health.

    Rey cannot outduel Luke? Don't kid yourself, we both know that Rey is way better at dueling than Luke, Rey can simply turtle and wait for Luke to do anything, and Luke simply cannot break her block. If he hits her block, that's a dash strike into at minimum two confirmed hits, which means Luke is only able to control how slowly he wants to die. Like honestly, Luke would not win that fight, I'm sorry. I wish he could, but he simply won't, assuming players are of equal skill.

    Rey in HvV can take a team of Four and make them way less effective, reveal the enemy teams position, and effectively sneak up on targets and take them out pretty easily. She is one of the better sabers simply because of higher damage. Luke can disrupt enemies more effectively, but cannot deal with them well enough, the only thing Luke has is an undodgeable strike.

    Overall, Luke could be better in HvV, but Rey is definitely the BEST in GA. Consistent abilities, Infinite stamina, a mind trick that essentially a death trap to heroes when near troopers, and a consistent Dash strike that can get up to 600 damage on blaster heroes.

    Mind trick doesn't affect veteran players. Rey also is not better for dueling at all luke is more versatile & heavily relies on the dash strike ability to do any damage. No veteran player is gonna hit her block knowing she has her ability waiting to happen

    The point is, Luke literally has no real way to open Rey up, and he's going to have to drop his guard eventually, which means that he's slowly going to die to Rey, he can only truly control the rate at which he dies. Mind trick is less effective from the front of veteran players, but it prevents turning, which does mean that she can easily get behind you and hammer away, or simply jump with you and do jump attacks, damaging you. Luke only has two variations of push, and a dash attack, and only ONE of those works consistently. Dash strike has a shorter cooldown, is easier to chain into, and guarantees damage. She literally has advantages over Luke in most scenarios, and she would win a 1v1 simply because she can have infinite stamina, and eventually Luke will have to stop blocking.
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable

    Actually, Mind tricking anyone like the Emperor while near troopers is way more effective than pushing him away. It literally can ruin an emperor if you have any shooter worth his salt. And no decent Rey player will ever use Mind trick from the front, always from behind or on a target not focusing you. Pretty easy to do with Insight. And considering that getting a dash strike on someone like Bossk means pretty much instant death is way better than Luke. Tbh I would take Rey over Luke every time in GA because I know that I can at least be more useful to my team, and Overall have a better chance at killing the Emperor and Vader, and other heroes. Luke is okay, but really Rush is his only consistent move, too many times will Repulse hit someone and not do crap, guaranteeing that you lost more than 250 health.

    Rey cannot outduel Luke? Don't kid yourself, we both know that Rey is way better at dueling than Luke, Rey can simply turtle and wait for Luke to do anything, and Luke simply cannot break her block. If he hits her block, that's a dash strike into at minimum two confirmed hits, which means Luke is only able to control how slowly he wants to die. Like honestly, Luke would not win that fight, I'm sorry. I wish he could, but he simply won't, assuming players are of equal skill.

    Rey in HvV can take a team of Four and make them way less effective, reveal the enemy teams position, and effectively sneak up on targets and take them out pretty easily. She is one of the better sabers simply because of higher damage. Luke can disrupt enemies more effectively, but cannot deal with them well enough, the only thing Luke has is an undodgeable strike.

    Overall, Luke could be better in HvV, but Rey is definitely the BEST in GA. Consistent abilities, Infinite stamina, a mind trick that essentially a death trap to heroes when near troopers, and a consistent Dash strike that can get up to 600 damage on blaster heroes.

    Mind trick doesn't affect veteran players. Rey also is not better for dueling at all luke is more versatile & heavily relies on the dash strike ability to do any damage. No veteran player is gonna hit her block knowing she has her ability waiting to happen

    The point is, Luke literally has no real way to open Rey up, and he's going to have to drop his guard eventually, which means that he's slowly going to die to Rey, he can only truly control the rate at which he dies. Mind trick is less effective from the front of veteran players, but it prevents turning, which does mean that she can easily get behind you and hammer away, or simply jump with you and do jump attacks, damaging you. Luke only has two variations of push, and a dash attack, and only ONE of those works consistently. Dash strike has a shorter cooldown, is easier to chain into, and guarantees damage. She literally has advantages over Luke in most scenarios, and she would win a 1v1 simply because she can have infinite stamina, and eventually Luke will have to stop blocking.

    Wtf heros can't even go 1v1. Luke has 3 dashes which burn through stamina & with just 2 come back just as fast. I can tell you know that I have never been hit by rey's dash strike in a 1v1 you just have to dash forward & boom dodged
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable

    Actually, Mind tricking anyone like the Emperor while near troopers is way more effective than pushing him away. It literally can ruin an emperor if you have any shooter worth his salt. And no decent Rey player will ever use Mind trick from the front, always from behind or on a target not focusing you. Pretty easy to do with Insight. And considering that getting a dash strike on someone like Bossk means pretty much instant death is way better than Luke. Tbh I would take Rey over Luke every time in GA because I know that I can at least be more useful to my team, and Overall have a better chance at killing the Emperor and Vader, and other heroes. Luke is okay, but really Rush is his only consistent move, too many times will Repulse hit someone and not do crap, guaranteeing that you lost more than 250 health.

    Rey cannot outduel Luke? Don't kid yourself, we both know that Rey is way better at dueling than Luke, Rey can simply turtle and wait for Luke to do anything, and Luke simply cannot break her block. If he hits her block, that's a dash strike into at minimum two confirmed hits, which means Luke is only able to control how slowly he wants to die. Like honestly, Luke would not win that fight, I'm sorry. I wish he could, but he simply won't, assuming players are of equal skill.

    Rey in HvV can take a team of Four and make them way less effective, reveal the enemy teams position, and effectively sneak up on targets and take them out pretty easily. She is one of the better sabers simply because of higher damage. Luke can disrupt enemies more effectively, but cannot deal with them well enough, the only thing Luke has is an undodgeable strike.

    Overall, Luke could be better in HvV, but Rey is definitely the BEST in GA. Consistent abilities, Infinite stamina, a mind trick that essentially a death trap to heroes when near troopers, and a consistent Dash strike that can get up to 600 damage on blaster heroes.

    Mind trick doesn't affect veteran players. Rey also is not better for dueling at all luke is more versatile & heavily relies on the dash strike ability to do any damage. No veteran player is gonna hit her block knowing she has her ability waiting to happen

    The point is, Luke literally has no real way to open Rey up, and he's going to have to drop his guard eventually, which means that he's slowly going to die to Rey, he can only truly control the rate at which he dies. Mind trick is less effective from the front of veteran players, but it prevents turning, which does mean that she can easily get behind you and hammer away, or simply jump with you and do jump attacks, damaging you. Luke only has two variations of push, and a dash attack, and only ONE of those works consistently. Dash strike has a shorter cooldown, is easier to chain into, and guarantees damage. She literally has advantages over Luke in most scenarios, and she would win a 1v1 simply because she can have infinite stamina, and eventually Luke will have to stop blocking.

    Wtf heros can't even go 1v1. Luke has 3 dashes which burn through stamina & with just 2 come back just as fast. I can tell you know that I have never been hit by rey's dash strike in a 1v1 you just have to dash forward & boom dodged

    It doesn't matter if Luke can burn through stamina if she can gain literally infinite stamina. She wins simply by outlasting Luke.
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  • Rey is broken due to how her charge thing will consume your entire block, and you have to hold it to stop her for a few seconds. Unlike a saber strike she has momentum like grevious, so after ramming you 50-75% of your block is fried due to stupid design. then she only needs to hit you 2 times to end your block.

    Ray can hit 6 times to before exhaust, and it takes 4 strikes to kill. see the problem? Thats assuming like you said she does not jump over and rams you from back.

    And dodging ray with blindside is kind of pain. If they lowered her exhaust to 3 hits / 5 seconds that would make it even. Likewise blindside needs to be blockable from the front.
  • Why would want to buff her?her insight ability grants her extra damage and one of her star cards lets her do bonus damage to enemys that are imobilzed.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable

    Actually, Mind tricking anyone like the Emperor while near troopers is way more effective than pushing him away. It literally can ruin an emperor if you have any shooter worth his salt. And no decent Rey player will ever use Mind trick from the front, always from behind or on a target not focusing you. Pretty easy to do with Insight. And considering that getting a dash strike on someone like Bossk means pretty much instant death is way better than Luke. Tbh I would take Rey over Luke every time in GA because I know that I can at least be more useful to my team, and Overall have a better chance at killing the Emperor and Vader, and other heroes. Luke is okay, but really Rush is his only consistent move, too many times will Repulse hit someone and not do crap, guaranteeing that you lost more than 250 health.

    Rey cannot outduel Luke? Don't kid yourself, we both know that Rey is way better at dueling than Luke, Rey can simply turtle and wait for Luke to do anything, and Luke simply cannot break her block. If he hits her block, that's a dash strike into at minimum two confirmed hits, which means Luke is only able to control how slowly he wants to die. Like honestly, Luke would not win that fight, I'm sorry. I wish he could, but he simply won't, assuming players are of equal skill.

    Rey in HvV can take a team of Four and make them way less effective, reveal the enemy teams position, and effectively sneak up on targets and take them out pretty easily. She is one of the better sabers simply because of higher damage. Luke can disrupt enemies more effectively, but cannot deal with them well enough, the only thing Luke has is an undodgeable strike.

    Overall, Luke could be better in HvV, but Rey is definitely the BEST in GA. Consistent abilities, Infinite stamina, a mind trick that essentially a death trap to heroes when near troopers, and a consistent Dash strike that can get up to 600 damage on blaster heroes.

    Mind trick doesn't affect veteran players. Rey also is not better for dueling at all luke is more versatile & heavily relies on the dash strike ability to do any damage. No veteran player is gonna hit her block knowing she has her ability waiting to happen

    The point is, Luke literally has no real way to open Rey up, and he's going to have to drop his guard eventually, which means that he's slowly going to die to Rey, he can only truly control the rate at which he dies. Mind trick is less effective from the front of veteran players, but it prevents turning, which does mean that she can easily get behind you and hammer away, or simply jump with you and do jump attacks, damaging you. Luke only has two variations of push, and a dash attack, and only ONE of those works consistently. Dash strike has a shorter cooldown, is easier to chain into, and guarantees damage. She literally has advantages over Luke in most scenarios, and she would win a 1v1 simply because she can have infinite stamina, and eventually Luke will have to stop blocking.

    Wtf heros can't even go 1v1. Luke has 3 dashes which burn through stamina & with just 2 come back just as fast. I can tell you know that I have never been hit by rey's dash strike in a 1v1 you just have to dash forward & boom dodged

    @GenxDarchi is right. Luke would not be able to beat Rey. She has the stamina and damage advantage. Luke’s rush doesn’t burn stamina. They simply count as one basic attack being blocked. Rey’s dash strike drains between 50-75% of a blocker’s stamina and it momentarily opens them up to being hit.
  • Landeaux2 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    JediJulius wrote: »
    Rey is already better than Luke in almost every way except running like a coward and pushing people off of cliffs.

    She's fine as is. She has team wall hacks that grant unlimited stamina and a damage boost, an unblockable force power that forces villains on defense, a decent saber charge that will obliterate unprepared foes, and nearly every aspect of her saber use (damage, stamina, speed) is either on par or better than Luke.

    Let's get Luke competitive first.

    Lmao she's definitely not better than luke. Also stamina overall lukes can block more & get his back quicker. Her mind trick is only good for annoying people. The only thing she has over luke is wall hacks. You'll hardly ever see a rey before a luke

    Her Insight can last well over 10 seconds and grant unlimited stamina for both offense and defense. Her base defensive stamina usage is only a couple of percent behind Luke but her offensive stamina, speed, damage, and Insight all more than make up for it.

    Mind Trick can easily catch people off guard. Although they tend to adapt quickly (especially veteran players) that initial unblockable second or two can make for huge plays and positional changes.

    Her Dash can knock over people and with the right Star Card can plow through a crowd of infantry potentially one shotting most of them. Luke's is better for mobility, but Rey's is great too.

    Her base lightsaber damage and speed are both better than Master Luke Skywalker AND the damage is further buffed by Insight.

    Please tell me what Luke can do better. Push people off of cliffs? Ok, cool HvV trick. Run away? Not helpful (except for those cheap target runners). He can have his moments in GA (especially with force push vs infantry) and can cheese a lot of HvV, but in terms of pure combat Rey can straight up outduel him PLUS Luke's push and repulse are unreliable, blockable, AND interruptable (which also completely wastes the charge). Especially in HvV, most of the people I see pick Luke do so because he is Luke and he can exploit his speed and cliffs to be a very annoying target.

    As far as GA is concerned damage means nothing when when every saber hero needs 2 hits for infantry. Additionally mind trick is nothing but an annoyance rey's mind trick is useless & leaves her very open for a choke or freeze. For GA also the only thing rey has over him is insight & the ability to go off the map that's about it & like I said earlier damage means nothing when every one 2 hit infantry.

    Your luke hate is apparently so I'll do the same thing you did. Rey in HvV is good for nothing but running & people using the mind trick set up just to run away. Rey cannot outduel luke lmao with what ability her dash which no veteran player is gonna get hit by. Her mind trick is just an annoyance & her dash strike is blockable & dodgeable

    Actually, Mind tricking anyone like the Emperor while near troopers is way more effective than pushing him away. It literally can ruin an emperor if you have any shooter worth his salt. And no decent Rey player will ever use Mind trick from the front, always from behind or on a target not focusing you. Pretty easy to do with Insight. And considering that getting a dash strike on someone like Bossk means pretty much instant death is way better than Luke. Tbh I would take Rey over Luke every time in GA because I know that I can at least be more useful to my team, and Overall have a better chance at killing the Emperor and Vader, and other heroes. Luke is okay, but really Rush is his only consistent move, too many times will Repulse hit someone and not do crap, guaranteeing that you lost more than 250 health.

    Rey cannot outduel Luke? Don't kid yourself, we both know that Rey is way better at dueling than Luke, Rey can simply turtle and wait for Luke to do anything, and Luke simply cannot break her block. If he hits her block, that's a dash strike into at minimum two confirmed hits, which means Luke is only able to control how slowly he wants to die. Like honestly, Luke would not win that fight, I'm sorry. I wish he could, but he simply won't, assuming players are of equal skill.

    Rey in HvV can take a team of Four and make them way less effective, reveal the enemy teams position, and effectively sneak up on targets and take them out pretty easily. She is one of the better sabers simply because of higher damage. Luke can disrupt enemies more effectively, but cannot deal with them well enough, the only thing Luke has is an undodgeable strike.

    Overall, Luke could be better in HvV, but Rey is definitely the BEST in GA. Consistent abilities, Infinite stamina, a mind trick that essentially a death trap to heroes when near troopers, and a consistent Dash strike that can get up to 600 damage on blaster heroes.

    Mind trick doesn't affect veteran players. Rey also is not better for dueling at all luke is more versatile & heavily relies on the dash strike ability to do any damage. No veteran player is gonna hit her block knowing she has her ability waiting to happen

    The point is, Luke literally has no real way to open Rey up, and he's going to have to drop his guard eventually, which means that he's slowly going to die to Rey, he can only truly control the rate at which he dies. Mind trick is less effective from the front of veteran players, but it prevents turning, which does mean that she can easily get behind you and hammer away, or simply jump with you and do jump attacks, damaging you. Luke only has two variations of push, and a dash attack, and only ONE of those works consistently. Dash strike has a shorter cooldown, is easier to chain into, and guarantees damage. She literally has advantages over Luke in most scenarios, and she would win a 1v1 simply because she can have infinite stamina, and eventually Luke will have to stop blocking.

    Wtf heros can't even go 1v1. Luke has 3 dashes which burn through stamina & with just 2 come back just as fast. I can tell you know that I have never been hit by rey's dash strike in a 1v1 you just have to dash forward & boom dodged

    @GenxDarchi is right. Luke would not be able to beat Rey. She has the stamina and damage advantage. Luke’s rush doesn’t burn stamina. They simply count as one basic attack being blocked. Rey’s dash strike drains between 50-75% of a blocker’s stamina and it momentarily opens them up to being hit.

    Luke burns through kylo's block & neither rey nor luke can burn through vader. They only burn through kylo's block tbh. I stop caring when I realize he was actually talking about luke vs Rey in a 1v1 but yes rey can beat luke in 1v1 under the current combat system. Also rey's dash strike is trash imo. No pro player is gonna be hit by that unless snuck up on. Just dodge forward & boom can't even touch ya
  • Can't we uncanonize her instead?
    Heart of darkness beateth, Ultima
    Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
    Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
    Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima


    The fact is that if you're running it's because you suck, and the game shouldn't pander to players who suck.

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  • KresusFIN wrote: »
    Can't we uncanonize her instead?

    I wish
  • Let’s just go on a night raid and burn all the copies ever made, that should in theory uncannonize it, hehehe
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