Heroes are no longer the priority. Add content for troopers.

skincarver

UrbanGlitch said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

UrbanGlitch said:

Ppong_Man12 said:

rollind24 said:

skincarver said:

I can’t help but feeling defeated at this point. I really see absolutely no point in posting anything here any more, it’s an illusion of participation. If the gamers were listened to we would have had a different game by now.

Seems there’s a constant influx of new heroplayers to the forum, while there’s a (partially involuntary) exodus of infantry players. Good for you, Dice 👍🏻

So, apparently last months survey showed not enough requests for weapons to make it into the top 4 requests, and I haven’t had much hope for an infantry mode anyways.
What do the players want? More heroes and reinforcements to further the imbalance in this game.

What a great playerbase, that lives for spamming high tier units to farm weaker ones.
I bet the constant kill-bings let herobrains endorphins flow, while my gaming sessions are regularly cut short due to constant tag-team-hero deaths 🤮
Dodge nerf, saberlocks- killing infantry with one-button-kill mechanics is a real achievement.
Next round of nerfs most likely to vehicles and stinger pistols for ruining hero players experience. We can’t let that happen.

Infantry not Star Wars-y enough?
This game is not Battlefront-y enough, and you’re doing not much to fix it, Dice.

Your hero indulgence ruined what could have been the ultimate SW game for a wide spectrum of gamers.

Yep

Agree, far to many casuals and 1st timers being catered to and not gamers imo. People only want heroes, and not just any heroes, light saber heroes. The only reason they want infantry is to have a weaker unit that’s easy to farm.

Just look at the games history, anytime a valid weapon or anything that resembles a modern shooter is put in the nerf cries come pouring in immediately. Basically if anything threatens the saber hero crowd or bad/new players it’s nerf time.

Again, it’s basically anything that kills a hero or has a normal ttk around here gets the attention of the nerf police. Look at the past blurgg, or the es heavy, or older specialists, and now we’re getting calls for vehicle nerfs because they kill or can run over heroes.

Thing is they actually do want infantry just in a weak, slow, clunky, with minimal gunplay and a low skill ceiling. Notice how most hero mains don’t want a mode like HU to be permanent, that’s because it’s balanced and they can’t farm weaker infantry. This game ino barely qualifies as a shooter and it’s not a good one other that the StarWars skin. 

We have minimal calls for cargo, dropzone, a high skill curve, more weapons, competitive gameplay, private matches, better gunplay, stats( oh and by the way for the anti kd/stat guys, now we have scrub Kamikazes that suck running around subsideing with no penalty), but the top items are all basic things that modern shooters should have imo. 

Anything and everything revolves around heroes, in particular saber heroes, and how they’re affected. Even blaster heroes take a back seat to sabers, so low level infantry has no chance imo. I’ll say again, I’m hoping for a bf3 announcement soon and hope they go back to making battlefront a shooter. 

I only continue to play because it is Star Wars

Im not going to waste my time on a mediocre game just because it has Star Wars in the name.

But thats exactly why I stay here. Its the only current large scale Star wars game on the market, so I want it to be the best it can be

We all want that. It just would be nice to see any form of acknowledgement, not to speak of actual content, that our desires are in any way considered, and all of this isn’t a fruitless effort. After +1,5 years evidence points to the contrary.
If the gods are merciful we might get a trooper weekend and that might be it.

Will this game get support throughout 2020?
With Ep.9 around the corner they are probably already working full steam on movie content- given how long they need to create new content, and I surely expect nothing to come from the August announcement, since Dice has shown time and again that their priorities lie not with infantry.
It‘s really sad, I always imagine large scale epic trooper battles on these gorgeous looking maps...
...and then a hero comes along.
                                                                                                                    

Shoeboxer51

Which is why I am almost 100% of the time playing extraction.  Wish there were a couple new maps though!

Empire_TW

But hey at least we got neat Droidekas!!!

How much of a nonfactor they are in GA actually surprised me.

Ppong_Man12

Empire_TW said:

But hey at least we got neat Droidekas!!!

How much of a nonfactor they are in GA actually surprised me.

I know right, that didn’t last long. I’m always up for cool content if, and this is a big if, we had a game with substance, and imo this one doesn’t. It’s all gimmicks made and fluff to recline around heroes. We have no high replay modes imo and no competitive gameplay which kills longevity imo.

We have no stats, no private’s,, no map selection, no party indicator, no new or decent weapons, a ttk that closer to sticks and stones that guns, no infantry focus, and a hero obsessed Pb tthat wants any and everything nerfed ot taken out if it threatens hero play.

I’m callin it, the day they announce they’re done with content drops is when this game goes full Titanic mode, bf15 will be around longer imo. 

II_JumPeR_II

skincarver said:

UrbanGlitch said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

UrbanGlitch said:

Ppong_Man12 said:

rollind24 said:

skincarver said:

I can’t help but feeling defeated at this point. I really see absolutely no point in posting anything here any more, it’s an illusion of participation. If the gamers were listened to we would have had a different game by now.

Seems there’s a constant influx of new heroplayers to the forum, while there’s a (partially involuntary) exodus of infantry players. Good for you, Dice 👍🏻

So, apparently last months survey showed not enough requests for weapons to make it into the top 4 requests, and I haven’t had much hope for an infantry mode anyways.
What do the players want? More heroes and reinforcements to further the imbalance in this game.

What a great playerbase, that lives for spamming high tier units to farm weaker ones.
I bet the constant kill-bings let herobrains endorphins flow, while my gaming sessions are regularly cut short due to constant tag-team-hero deaths 🤮
Dodge nerf, saberlocks- killing infantry with one-button-kill mechanics is a real achievement.
Next round of nerfs most likely to vehicles and stinger pistols for ruining hero players experience. We can’t let that happen.

Infantry not Star Wars-y enough?
This game is not Battlefront-y enough, and you’re doing not much to fix it, Dice.

Your hero indulgence ruined what could have been the ultimate SW game for a wide spectrum of gamers.

Yep

Agree, far to many casuals and 1st timers being catered to and not gamers imo. People only want heroes, and not just any heroes, light saber heroes. The only reason they want infantry is to have a weaker unit that’s easy to farm.

Just look at the games history, anytime a valid weapon or anything that resembles a modern shooter is put in the nerf cries come pouring in immediately. Basically if anything threatens the saber hero crowd or bad/new players it’s nerf time.

Again, it’s basically anything that kills a hero or has a normal ttk around here gets the attention of the nerf police. Look at the past blurgg, or the es heavy, or older specialists, and now we’re getting calls for vehicle nerfs because they kill or can run over heroes.

Thing is they actually do want infantry just in a weak, slow, clunky, with minimal gunplay and a low skill ceiling. Notice how most hero mains don’t want a mode like HU to be permanent, that’s because it’s balanced and they can’t farm weaker infantry. This game ino barely qualifies as a shooter and it’s not a good one other that the StarWars skin. 

We have minimal calls for cargo, dropzone, a high skill curve, more weapons, competitive gameplay, private matches, better gunplay, stats( oh and by the way for the anti kd/stat guys, now we have scrub Kamikazes that suck running around subsideing with no penalty), but the top items are all basic things that modern shooters should have imo. 

Anything and everything revolves around heroes, in particular saber heroes, and how they’re affected. Even blaster heroes take a back seat to sabers, so low level infantry has no chance imo. I’ll say again, I’m hoping for a bf3 announcement soon and hope they go back to making battlefront a shooter. 

I only continue to play because it is Star Wars

Im not going to waste my time on a mediocre game just because it has Star Wars in the name.

But thats exactly why I stay here. Its the only current large scale Star wars game on the market, so I want it to be the best it can be

We all want that. It just would be nice to see any form of acknowledgement, not to speak of actual content, that our desires are in any way considered, and all of this isn’t a fruitless effort. After +1,5 years evidence points to the contrary.
If the gods are merciful we might get a trooper weekend and that might be it.

Will this game get support throughout 2020?
With Ep.9 around the corner they are probably already working full steam on movie content- given how long they need to create new content, and I surely expect nothing to come from the August announcement, since Dice has shown time and again that their priorities lie not with infantry.
It‘s really sad, I always imagine large scale epic trooper battles on these gorgeous looking maps...
...and then a hero comes along.
                                                                                                                    

Man the Sith Troopers wasted for this Hero slasher would be awful

skincarver

II_JumPeR_II said:

skincarver said:

UrbanGlitch said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

UrbanGlitch said:

Ppong_Man12 said:

rollind24 said:

skincarver said:

I can’t help but feeling defeated at this point. I really see absolutely no point in posting anything here any more, it’s an illusion of participation. If the gamers were listened to we would have had a different game by now.

Seems there’s a constant influx of new heroplayers to the forum, while there’s a (partially involuntary) exodus of infantry players. Good for you, Dice 👍🏻

So, apparently last months survey showed not enough requests for weapons to make it into the top 4 requests, and I haven’t had much hope for an infantry mode anyways.
What do the players want? More heroes and reinforcements to further the imbalance in this game.

What a great playerbase, that lives for spamming high tier units to farm weaker ones.
I bet the constant kill-bings let herobrains endorphins flow, while my gaming sessions are regularly cut short due to constant tag-team-hero deaths 🤮
Dodge nerf, saberlocks- killing infantry with one-button-kill mechanics is a real achievement.
Next round of nerfs most likely to vehicles and stinger pistols for ruining hero players experience. We can’t let that happen.

Infantry not Star Wars-y enough?
This game is not Battlefront-y enough, and you’re doing not much to fix it, Dice.

Your hero indulgence ruined what could have been the ultimate SW game for a wide spectrum of gamers.

Yep

Agree, far to many casuals and 1st timers being catered to and not gamers imo. People only want heroes, and not just any heroes, light saber heroes. The only reason they want infantry is to have a weaker unit that’s easy to farm.

Just look at the games history, anytime a valid weapon or anything that resembles a modern shooter is put in the nerf cries come pouring in immediately. Basically if anything threatens the saber hero crowd or bad/new players it’s nerf time.

Again, it’s basically anything that kills a hero or has a normal ttk around here gets the attention of the nerf police. Look at the past blurgg, or the es heavy, or older specialists, and now we’re getting calls for vehicle nerfs because they kill or can run over heroes.

Thing is they actually do want infantry just in a weak, slow, clunky, with minimal gunplay and a low skill ceiling. Notice how most hero mains don’t want a mode like HU to be permanent, that’s because it’s balanced and they can’t farm weaker infantry. This game ino barely qualifies as a shooter and it’s not a good one other that the StarWars skin. 

We have minimal calls for cargo, dropzone, a high skill curve, more weapons, competitive gameplay, private matches, better gunplay, stats( oh and by the way for the anti kd/stat guys, now we have scrub Kamikazes that suck running around subsideing with no penalty), but the top items are all basic things that modern shooters should have imo. 

Anything and everything revolves around heroes, in particular saber heroes, and how they’re affected. Even blaster heroes take a back seat to sabers, so low level infantry has no chance imo. I’ll say again, I’m hoping for a bf3 announcement soon and hope they go back to making battlefront a shooter. 

I only continue to play because it is Star Wars

Im not going to waste my time on a mediocre game just because it has Star Wars in the name.

But thats exactly why I stay here. Its the only current large scale Star wars game on the market, so I want it to be the best it can be

We all want that. It just would be nice to see any form of acknowledgement, not to speak of actual content, that our desires are in any way considered, and all of this isn’t a fruitless effort. After +1,5 years evidence points to the contrary.
If the gods are merciful we might get a trooper weekend and that might be it.

Will this game get support throughout 2020?
With Ep.9 around the corner they are probably already working full steam on movie content- given how long they need to create new content, and I surely expect nothing to come from the August announcement, since Dice has shown time and again that their priorities lie not with infantry.
It‘s really sad, I always imagine large scale epic trooper battles on these gorgeous looking maps...
...and then a hero comes along.
                                                                                                                    

Man the Sith Troopers wasted for this Hero slasher would be awful

Tbh I don’t really care about Ep.9 after TLJ, as long as it’s not infantry related they can anything to the game - I pretty much don’t care. Sith troopers might be new reinforcements or so, but I would hardly use them anyway, so it wouldn’t change much for me.                                                                              

Already looking forward for infantry being overlooked once more in this months announcement,
but I would gladly be proven wrong, Dice.

Jett_Fett_91166

Empire_TW said:

But hey at least we got neat Droidekas!!!

How much of a nonfactor they are in GA actually surprised me.

I extended a GA match on Naboo by a good 15 to 20 minutes just rolling in and out of the throne room with a droideka while dodging lightsabers trying to kill me. Didn’t try to take the objective, just kept on rolling. It was a good laugh. 

Anywho, new weapons and new/ported maps for Extraction would be a great way to get more trooper oriented content. 

Empire_TW

Jett_Fett_91166 said:

Empire_TW said:

But hey at least we got neat Droidekas!!!

How much of a nonfactor they are in GA actually surprised me.

I extended a GA match on Naboo by a good 15 to 20 minutes just rolling in and out of the throne room with a droideka while dodging lightsabers trying to kill me. Didn’t try to take the objective, just kept on rolling. It was a good laugh. 

Anywho, new weapons and new/ported maps for Extraction would be a great way to get more trooper oriented content. 

Was probably a bad LS team, a decent LS team on Naboo won't even let you up the stairs, or get past phase 2 for that matter.

WarfareKiller41

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

WarfareKiller41

Xerogon said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

This game needs no emphasis on trooper-exclusive content.

Hero main no doubt, this is a trooper thread, theres more than enough hero threads to go around. 

Resorting to assumptions I see. I play as both troopers and heroes a fair amount, and I definitely think DICE's focus should be on the heroes instead of the troopers 100%.

UrbanGlitch

WarfareKiller41 said:

Xerogon said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

This game needs no emphasis on trooper-exclusive content.

Hero main no doubt, this is a trooper thread, theres more than enough hero threads to go around. 

Resorting to assumptions I see. I play as both troopers and heroes a fair amount, and I definitely think DICE's focus should be on the heroes instead of the troopers 100%.

Back here again are you?

Ppong_Man12

WarfareKiller41 said:

Xerogon said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

This game needs no emphasis on trooper-exclusive content.

Hero main no doubt, this is a trooper thread, theres more than enough hero threads to go around. 

Resorting to assumptions I see. I play as both troopers and heroes a fair amount, and I definitely think DICE's focus should be on the heroes instead of the troopers 100%.

I will agree on trooper play mechanics not being what it should be imo, as in slow, non responsive, and clunky compared to the last game. But as heroes go they’ve been the focus since launch and everything revolves around them. Since they’re most likely limited in what they’re going to do with trooper content they should just reset infantry weapons back to launch state and make them available across classes. Ttk would be closer to what a shooter should be and with all he hero buffs and hok cards it’s only right imo. Won’t happen but it should. 

II_JumPeR_II

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

WarfareKiller41

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

DICE holds the Battlefront series now. They can reinvent it any way they want, and apparently its been for the better.

skincarver

Just quit gaming early again due to hero and reinforcement spam. 

Playing as infantry is so far beyond being pointless that I’m lost for words.

I would ask those who oppose an infantry mode (devs, feel free to join in) to spend 7 proper gaming days in succession as infantry- as in only the base 4 classes, and be truthful to at least themselves how much they’ve enjoyed it.

Do it! It’s great fun 👍🏻

II_JumPeR_II

skincarver said:

Just quit gaming early again due to hero and reinforcement spam. 

Playing as infantry is so far beyond being pointless that I’m lost for words.

I would ask those who oppose an infantry mode (devs, feel free to join in) to spend 7 proper gaming days in succession as infantry- as in only the base 4 classes, and be truthful to at least themselves how much they’ve enjoyed it.

Do it! It’s great fun 👍🏻

I doubt that DICE is playing their own terrible creation. Its the same with Battlefield V

II_JumPeR_II

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

DICE holds the Battlefront series now. They can reinvent it any way they want, and apparently its been for the better.

Please stop defending this mediocre game. If they wanna create their own SW game, then dont use someone elses name for your game. What DICE has done with the Battlefront franchise is just beyond awful.

Its been for the better? Yeah pls go back to reddit and troll and shill their...

Is there a ignore function on this forum? So i dont have to read such garbage.

WarfareKiller41

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

DICE holds the Battlefront series now. They can reinvent it any way they want, and apparently its been for the better.

Please stop defending this mediocre game. If they wanna create their own SW game, then dont use someone elses name for your game. What DICE has done with the Battlefront franchise is just beyond awful.

Its been for the better? Yeah pls go back to reddit and troll and shill their...

Is there a ignore function on this forum? So i dont have to read such garbage.

I'm going to defend this amazing game because it gets way more hate than it deserves. 
Seems you only like Battlefront for nostalgia and have no reservations for any innovations like DICE has brought to the table. There's probably no pleasing you.
Not shilling, just praising a game I love playing. 
Yeah you trooperlords really love ignoring different opinions don't you.

Imladithil2002

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

DICE holds the Battlefront series now. They can reinvent it any way they want, and apparently its been for the better.

Please stop defending this mediocre game. If they wanna create their own SW game, then dont use someone elses name for your game. What DICE has done with the Battlefront franchise is just beyond awful.

Its been for the better? Yeah pls go back to reddit and troll and shill their...

Is there a ignore function on this forum? So i dont have to read such garbage.

I'm going to defend this amazing game because it gets way more hate than it deserves. 
Seems you only like Battlefront for nostalgia and have no reservations for any innovations like DICE has brought to the table. There's probably no pleasing you.
Not shilling, just praising a game I love playing. 
Yeah you trooperlords really love ignoring different opinions don't you.

To be fair: you're right. This game is better, than lots of people are complaining and the devs really try to make it even better.
The problem, we (those, who are writing comments in this thread) or some of us have, isn't, that we don't want to have heroes at all. We just want to get anything trooper-related (skins doesn't really count as content). Since lauch, 6 heroes have been released, lots of balancing patches, a new lightsaber-combat-system and i believe, there is more to come. But in that time, we got no new weapons, no new trooper star cards, just one new mode (i don't really count EH and JPC as trooper-modes, since you can't change your class), which has only two maps, some of the primary trooper-weapons got nerfed and some of us are giving up hope, that there is ever something more to come.

Ppong_Man12

The bottom line is many/much of the bf2 PB need crutches to be any sort of relevant in mp game imo. In this case heroes are clearly the crutch for most of the base imo and so it’s understandable why they like the game this way. Why continue to suck when you can look decent running the op hero loadout vs a much weaker opponent. 

WarfareKiller41

Imladithil2002 said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

DICE holds the Battlefront series now. They can reinvent it any way they want, and apparently its been for the better.

Please stop defending this mediocre game. If they wanna create their own SW game, then dont use someone elses name for your game. What DICE has done with the Battlefront franchise is just beyond awful.

Its been for the better? Yeah pls go back to reddit and troll and shill their...

Is there a ignore function on this forum? So i dont have to read such garbage.

I'm going to defend this amazing game because it gets way more hate than it deserves. 
Seems you only like Battlefront for nostalgia and have no reservations for any innovations like DICE has brought to the table. There's probably no pleasing you.
Not shilling, just praising a game I love playing. 
Yeah you trooperlords really love ignoring different opinions don't you.

To be fair: you're right. This game is better, than lots of people are complaining and the devs really try to make it even better.
The problem, we (those, who are writing comments in this thread) or some of us have, isn't, that we don't want to have heroes at all. We just want to get anything trooper-related (skins doesn't really count as content). Since lauch, 6 heroes have been released, lots of balancing patches, a new lightsaber-combat-system and i believe, there is more to come. But in that time, we got no new weapons, no new trooper star cards, just one new mode (i don't really count EH and JPC as trooper-modes, since you can't change your class), which has only two maps, some of the primary trooper-weapons got nerfed and some of us are giving up hope, that there is ever something more to come.

That's fair. There's definitely been far more attention to heroes than troopers, and they are 2 halves of the game after all. Just don't think any new trooper content would be innovative enough to keep the game fresh in the long-term. But it's ultimately up to DICE to prove me wrong or not.

Moojammin_10

Imladithil2002 said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

DICE holds the Battlefront series now. They can reinvent it any way they want, and apparently its been for the better.

Please stop defending this mediocre game. If they wanna create their own SW game, then dont use someone elses name for your game. What DICE has done with the Battlefront franchise is just beyond awful.

Its been for the better? Yeah pls go back to reddit and troll and shill their...

Is there a ignore function on this forum? So i dont have to read such garbage.

I'm going to defend this amazing game because it gets way more hate than it deserves. 
Seems you only like Battlefront for nostalgia and have no reservations for any innovations like DICE has brought to the table. There's probably no pleasing you.
Not shilling, just praising a game I love playing. 
Yeah you trooperlords really love ignoring different opinions don't you.

To be fair: you're right. This game is better, than lots of people are complaining and the devs really try to make it even better.
The problem, we (those, who are writing comments in this thread) or some of us have, isn't, that we don't want to have heroes at all. We just want to get anything trooper-related (skins doesn't really count as content). Since lauch, 6 heroes have been released, lots of balancing patches, a new lightsaber-combat-system and i believe, there is more to come. But in that time, we got no new weapons, no new trooper star cards, just one new mode (i don't really count EH and JPC as trooper-modes, since you can't change your class), which has only two maps, some of the primary trooper-weapons got nerfed and some of us are giving up hope, that there is ever something more to come.

I'm going to echo these sentiments. The game gets way more bashing than it deserves. I main GA and still enjoy it and we are nearly 2 years in. I have only ever really been disappointed in content drops and the anti climax that was CS.... It's still ok, just not what I was hoping for.
Game play and modes are really enjoyable otherwise I'd have deleted ages ago. 
The Devs are never going to please everyone. They do a great job. 

WarfareKiller41

Imladithil2002 said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

DICE holds the Battlefront series now. They can reinvent it any way they want, and apparently its been for the better.

Please stop defending this mediocre game. If they wanna create their own SW game, then dont use someone elses name for your game. What DICE has done with the Battlefront franchise is just beyond awful.

Its been for the better? Yeah pls go back to reddit and troll and shill their...

Is there a ignore function on this forum? So i dont have to read such garbage.

I'm going to defend this amazing game because it gets way more hate than it deserves. 
Seems you only like Battlefront for nostalgia and have no reservations for any innovations like DICE has brought to the table. There's probably no pleasing you.
Not shilling, just praising a game I love playing. 
Yeah you trooperlords really love ignoring different opinions don't you.

To be fair: you're right. This game is better, than lots of people are complaining and the devs really try to make it even better.
The problem, we (those, who are writing comments in this thread) or some of us have, isn't, that we don't want to have heroes at all. We just want to get anything trooper-related (skins doesn't really count as content). Since lauch, 6 heroes have been released, lots of balancing patches, a new lightsaber-combat-system and i believe, there is more to come. But in that time, we got no new weapons, no new trooper star cards, just one new mode (i don't really count EH and JPC as trooper-modes, since you can't change your class), which has only two maps, some of the primary trooper-weapons got nerfed and some of us are giving up hope, that there is ever something more to come.

That's fair. There's definitely been far more attention to heroes than troopers, and they are 2 halves of the game after all. Just don't think any new trooper content would be innovative enough to keep the game fresh in the long-term. But it's ultimately up to DICE to prove me wrong or not.

Moojammin_10

Imladithil2002 said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

DICE holds the Battlefront series now. They can reinvent it any way they want, and apparently its been for the better.

Please stop defending this mediocre game. If they wanna create their own SW game, then dont use someone elses name for your game. What DICE has done with the Battlefront franchise is just beyond awful.

Its been for the better? Yeah pls go back to reddit and troll and shill their...

Is there a ignore function on this forum? So i dont have to read such garbage.

I'm going to defend this amazing game because it gets way more hate than it deserves. 
Seems you only like Battlefront for nostalgia and have no reservations for any innovations like DICE has brought to the table. There's probably no pleasing you.
Not shilling, just praising a game I love playing. 
Yeah you trooperlords really love ignoring different opinions don't you.

To be fair: you're right. This game is better, than lots of people are complaining and the devs really try to make it even better.
The problem, we (those, who are writing comments in this thread) or some of us have, isn't, that we don't want to have heroes at all. We just want to get anything trooper-related (skins doesn't really count as content). Since lauch, 6 heroes have been released, lots of balancing patches, a new lightsaber-combat-system and i believe, there is more to come. But in that time, we got no new weapons, no new trooper star cards, just one new mode (i don't really count EH and JPC as trooper-modes, since you can't change your class), which has only two maps, some of the primary trooper-weapons got nerfed and some of us are giving up hope, that there is ever something more to come.

I'm going to echo these sentiments. The game gets way more bashing than it deserves. I main GA and still enjoy it and we are nearly 2 years in. I have only ever really been disappointed in content drops and the anti climax that was CS.... It's still ok, just not what I was hoping for.
Game play and modes are really enjoyable otherwise I'd have deleted ages ago. 
The Devs are never going to please everyone. They do a great job. 

II_JumPeR_II

Imladithil2002 said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

II_JumPeR_II said:

WarfareKiller41 said:

@II_JumPeR_II
Guess what? Heroes are part of the Battlefront.

Not in the original vision for that franchise

For DICE, heroes are Battlefront sadly. They didnt get why people loved the franchise over 10 years ago. Now we stuck with a mediocre Hero slasher in the Star Wars Universe

DICE holds the Battlefront series now. They can reinvent it any way they want, and apparently its been for the better.

Please stop defending this mediocre game. If they wanna create their own SW game, then dont use someone elses name for your game. What DICE has done with the Battlefront franchise is just beyond awful.

Its been for the better? Yeah pls go back to reddit and troll and shill their...

Is there a ignore function on this forum? So i dont have to read such garbage.

I'm going to defend this amazing game because it gets way more hate than it deserves. 
Seems you only like Battlefront for nostalgia and have no reservations for any innovations like DICE has brought to the table. There's probably no pleasing you.
Not shilling, just praising a game I love playing. 
Yeah you trooperlords really love ignoring different opinions don't you.

To be fair: you're right. This game is better, than lots of people are complaining and the devs really try to make it even better.
The problem, we (those, who are writing comments in this thread) or some of us have, isn't, that we don't want to have heroes at all. We just want to get anything trooper-related (skins doesn't really count as content). Since lauch, 6 heroes have been released, lots of balancing patches, a new lightsaber-combat-system and i believe, there is more to come. But in that time, we got no new weapons, no new trooper star cards, just one new mode (i don't really count EH and JPC as trooper-modes, since you can't change your class), which has only two maps, some of the primary trooper-weapons got nerfed and some of us are giving up hope, that there is ever something more to come.

I dont wanna see heroes at all in modes like GA or CS tbh

RetroIsland

As much as I love new reinforcements, and the ones we’ve gotten, It’s not real trooper content. We need weapons and star card tweaks. Make troopers great again

Franchaud

Relmets wrote: »

remove reinforcements from blast, unlock faction restriction on defaults and make them universally available across all classes

this would not even involve making new content, seriously throw us a bone here

they DON'T care.

Franchaud

Empire_TW wrote: »

OoiiHooked_22 wrote: »

Empire_TW wrote: »

Finest_Banana wrote: »

This shouldn't even be hard. They have most of the formula from the previous game. But no, these devs would rather hide in their Reddit safe space where everyone pretends that the game is perfect. I mean, look at this garbage:



"Well deserved" credit? What?!? How often does someone write that the praise they receive is well deserved? Their self-admiration is off the charts. You'd think this game was as successful as Modern Warfare 3 with all this boasting.

They're in a bubble. The only way forward is to smash the bubble by invading their Twitter and Reddit safe spaces. Unfortunately, that would result in being being swarmed on, blocked, etc. For some mysterious reason, a decent portion of the playerbase is drinking the CW content Kool-Aid. Remove the Clone Wars skins, and subpar content is beneath the surface. Without the Star Wars skin, most people wouldn't touch this game. It's a subpar tiered-unit shooter masquerading as an AAA FPS.

The appeasement of CW fans is the main reason this game has been bad and will continue to be bad.

I'm tempted to say they purposely made that "praise" comment to see if they could get away with it.

Such a personal preference type of thing to say. Would you like to compare the amount of CW content and non content? Even after alllllllll these CW updates there’s still more non CW content in this game so idk what you mean. CW is just more popular whether y’all like CW or not. Please don’t get your personal preference confused with facts.

I’m sure you were the first one complaining in the last game about no CW content right? Nah 😂😂😂😂😂 CW SAVED this game

The game is in a terrible state

The devs cater to the reddit which is comically biased towards CW what else is there to explain?

Clone skins not being right is a bigger issue than the ping site problems, the biggest none issue in gaming history (the appearance of the clone officer) gets attention but not the mountain of bugs, they have no problem with the scummy drip feed tactics that the devs are using and many more things. The game gets worse with every update but since these updates are bringing CW content they get blind praise.

CW saved this game? In what way?

The drip feeding of clone skins that were in the game at launch? Which just lead to people being more angry with them not being right? Then we ended up getting the colossal waste of resources and time that was the Clone skin update which was just them rearranging asset and recoloring things. These skins aren't even interesting, just different colored stripes and stickers. Aliens and gender options would have been alot better, meaningful content like more weapons would have been even better.

Heroes?

Obi Wan is garbage
Grievous is a buggy button mashing mess
Anakin ruined the game when he came out and is still problematic

The only decent one is Dooku and he just good in HvV at saber combat in a game where saber combat is terrible, the DS was already superior when they added him so his additional didn't feel like much.

Now we have a new issue where CW fans want every single character from the cartoon to be a hero in this game and heroes will keep having the priority when they already have had it long enough.

Geonosis?
Geonosis is universally hated, in GA the Clones will always win it is comically in their favor, HvV it is boring running, and in blast its just aerial spam.

Vehicles?
The Staap and Barc speeder are just different looking version of the already present speeder bike. The ATTE is only on one map and its the one that just about everyone hates, it is basically a glorified disruptor rifle

New Reinforcements?
The CW era didn't even new reinforcements, The rebels and Resistance don't even have their own enforcer yet. The highlight of the BX droid is just running around hitting people with a stick and the ARC trooper is an embodiment of cheap stuff that was already in the game (stuns and wallhacks), they made the already LS favored GA maps even more in their favor.

Capital Supremacy?
A crap domination/strike hybrid that is so heavily in favor of the LS that playing as the droids is pointless. A big open mode was requested and we got cutscenes and chokepoints.

In what way has any of this stuff "saved the game"?

that night, i knew you were the one with brains. always respected your posts.

AccurateThings

Why did OP get banned

theleebryan

No idea but I thinks it’s a long ban

AccurateThings wrote: »

Why did OP get banned

Franchaud

Relmets wrote: »

No more heroes after Anakin. Not for a while, at least. Trooper gameplay needs to be revitalized, and content needs to be rounded out. Heroes will have received 4 new additions as of February. At the rate content is being delivered, if the focus for 2019 is another set of heroes then infantry players will have been kicked to the curb AGAIN.
NECESSARY:
- Unlock the faction restriction for all of the default blasters. Cross era weapons are already a thing, there is no point in maintaining a faction correlation only for the defaults. This is an easy way to "add" plenty of blasters without too much effort. Even if they are different only cosmetically it will still create the illusion of more choice.
- NEW weapons, maybe including cross-class weapons as well, (think PDWs in battlefield)
- More trooper equipment/abilities
- More trooper customization (Look around, plenty of threads)
- A true troopers only mode. NO, none of the modes so far are trooper modes so long as they have tiered units (enforcers/aerials). Cargo has potential, but whatever the mode is, the options should be Assault, Heavy, Officer, or Specialist. Nothing else.

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ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER:
How you have fun playing this game is subjective, but there are ways in which the content above is OBJECTIVELY better than a single hero per month. You don't need to race with other players to be the first to use a weapon, trooper ability, or a trooper skin, like you do with a hero (whether farming BP in GA or scrolling across the HvV selection menu). You don't need to hope to be on the right team in the first place either (except for skins). People won't leave games en masse because they weren't quick enough to get to try the new content like they do in HvV.

After trooper content is accounted for the logical next step would be to add maps, but we'll see if the herolords can tolerate not having Ahsoka or Padme or whoever.

fighting windmills, dude...

CapitalShipDestroyer

I have said this once and I will say it again. I am a full on infantry supporter. I am also a Clone wars fan. Now, before anybody comes after me for what I have said I will explain myself. I agree that there should be more content drops for other eras. I also think that heros have always been the main priority for the devs. It's time to give the spotlight to two modes that I believe have been on the back burner since the release. SA and Arcade. Neither of those two have had much more than an ounce of attention. Now remember, I am a complete infantry supporter and it's hard for me to not add in that troopers need more content. BUT, let's also remember that it took more than about a year for even a SA mode to be added to arcade. So if were all really going to get anything any of us want... it's going to have to be in one voice or else we will stay on the same spiraling track were on. Therefore, let's share the spotlight of priority. It's more than troopers and heros. It's always been. In conclusion, I say SA and Arcade need to be worked on.

PS. As a Clone Wars fan, take a break on the clone wars content for little bit, other eras should also be seen.

Goodbye, be civilized, and I'll see you on the battlefront.

Ppong_Man12

CapitalShipDestroyer wrote: »

I have said this once and I will say it again. I am a full on infantry supporter. I am also a Clone wars fan. Now, before anybody comes after me for what I have said I will explain myself. I agree that there should be more content drops for other eras. I also think that heros have always been the main priority for the devs. It's time to give the spotlight to two modes that I believe have been on the back burner since the release. SA and Arcade. Neither of those two have had much more than an ounce of attention. Now remember, I am a complete infantry supporter and it's hard for me to not add in that troopers need more content. BUT, let's also remember that it took more than about a year for even a SA mode to be added to arcade. So if were all really going to get anything any of us want... it's going to have to be in one voice or else we will stay on the same spiraling track were on. Therefore, let's share the spotlight of priority. It's more than troopers and heros. It's always been. In conclusion, I say SA and Arcade need to be worked on.

PS. As a Clone Wars fan, take a break on the clone wars content for little bit, other eras should also be seen.

Goodbye, be civilized, and I'll see you on the battlefront.

Man I feel for you guys, SA modes and lack of offline content was some of the main complaints of the last game. Instead we get a game outta left field full of heroes with little to no infantry support and virtually no SA support.

Ppong_Man12

Old but imo this guy is spot on. As I’ve said over and over, 15 had it right imo.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/games/2017/11/21/star-wars-battlefront-2-review-the-empire-screws-up/amp/

Jett_Fett_91166

Bumped

AccurateThings

Bump 2

If they add trooper weapons at gamescon I’ll drink 5 bottles of water

Ppong_Man12

Just wait until the hero passive health and new cards drop, infantry drops another tier. They’re hero caddies basically.

JMaster

More infantry focused stuff please. Not reinforcements, not heroes, or vehicles: the basic infantry classes. I love all three of those things, but they're sides to the main course.

Versatti

So I hear that there’s this prophecy being bounced around that eludes to clone commando reinforcements. I say it’s hardly a prophecy when you’ve been sat in 12 months of team meetings discussing their implementation.

Surprised we haven’t had another accidentally on purpose crashed speeder leak.

Anyway I’m good mates with Psychic Sally and Here’s her Gamescon prophecy...

1. 4 new heroes coming to BF2
2. Another clone wars era map
3. Offline game mode (GA or CS)
4. Some secret squirrel stuff that they can’t talk about yet, but we all know it relates to an Episode IX cash in courtesy of the house of mouse.
5. Nothing for trooper classes.

Thanks Sally!

skincarver

Ppong_Man12 wrote: »

Just wait until the hero passive health and new cards drop, infantry drops another tier. They’re hero caddies basically.

I fear the August announcement is the last chance to change something for infantry, i don’t know if there will be more support in 2020.

Of course I don’t expect anything, but if troopers are overlooked again this month, infantry gameplay will hit an all time low.

Devs, you still have time to whip up at least an announcement for infantry content until the End of August. Surprise us.

WodiQuix

New Trooper blasters and Star Cards, along with some non-Republic customization options would be greatly, greatly, greatly appreciated! Troopers are in great need of new items.

ID_8615

I thought about this - what if for every class achievement, when you unlocked a new weapon specific to that class (like the CR-2 and it's variations for the Assault trooper), one could spend a small amount of BP to use that weapon as another class - Officer, Heavy, Specialist. That would incentivize players to play all classes to unlock all weapons and configurations AND give us base-4 troopers something to .. shoot .. for.

Ditto for Star Cards -- let them be cross-class.

This would get us back to close to where troopers were at the end of BF2015.

skincarver

ID_8615 wrote: »

I thought about this - what if for every class achievement, when you unlocked a new weapon specific to that class (like the CR-2 and it's variations for the Assault trooper), one could spend a small amount of BP to use that weapon as another class - Officer, Heavy, Specialist. That would incentivize players to play all classes to unlock all weapons and configurations AND give us base-4 troopers something to .. shoot .. for.

Ditto for Star Cards -- let them be cross-class.

This would get us back to close to where troopers were at the end of BF2015.

I’ve once suggested somewhere to open up a new customizable 150hp trooper slot for which we could pick our weapons and starcards to our liking.
Since the middle ability is tied to an animation it might have to be sacrificed for this to work, but it would open up a slot for another starcard.

Since we don’t get new starcards and new weapons the class system has become way too restrictive and hasn’t adapted to the changes/additions to the game.

They should at least drop the left/right restrictions of the starcards.
This alone would liven up infantry gameplay massively.

Killgore81

Thechosen1_anakin wrote: »

Nah. Bug fixes before troopers after that then yes

Bug fixes aren't content updates. Bug fixes should always be an ongoing thing.

Lyc4n

Versatti wrote: »

So I hear that there’s this prophecy being bounced around that eludes to clone commando reinforcements. I say it’s hardly a prophecy when you’ve been sat in 12 months of team meetings discussing their implementation.

Surprised we haven’t had another accidentally on purpose crashed speeder leak.

Anyway I’m good mates with Psychic Sally and Here’s her Gamescon prophecy...

1. 4 new heroes coming to BF2
2. Another clone wars era map
3. Offline game mode (GA or CS)
4. Some secret squirrel stuff that they can’t talk about yet, but we all know it relates to an Episode IX cash in courtesy of the house of mouse.
5. Nothing for trooper classes.

Thanks Sally!

4 heroes? Are you sure?

Ppong_Man12

skincarver wrote: »

Ppong_Man12 wrote: »

Just wait until the hero passive health and new cards drop, infantry drops another tier. They’re hero caddies basically.

I fear the August announcement is the last chance to change something for infantry, i don’t know if there will be more support in 2020.

Of course I don’t expect anything, but if troopers are overlooked again this month, infantry gameplay will hit an all time low.

Devs, you still have time to whip up at least an announcement for infantry content until the End of August. Surprise us.

Agree, I’ve about given up on anything that doesn’t cater to the casual weekend Starwars fans, which is what this game was clearly made for. It’s all about heroes so the average player can be good, I mean we don’t even have stats or private matches.

Then they’re buffing heroes again for the casual crowd, yet at the same time thy keep nerfing anything that harms them, its actually become pretty pathetic with the spoon feeding, even for a casual game.

ID_8615

Ppong_Man12 wrote: »

Then they’re buffing heroes again for the casual crowd, yet at the same time thy keep nerfing anything that harms them, its actually become pretty pathetic with the spoon feeding, even for a casual game.

I actually think the casual gamer has moved on from this game. I don't think they cater to the casual gamers much anymore. A casual gamer won't stick around long enough to toil through the game to "git gud" enough to grab an aerial, much less a hero in GA or CS before the dedicated Hero-Worshipper does. In the XBox & PS4 platforms, I see the same players suit up in to Heroes time and again. They're all about slaughtering the helpless as well. There's nothing casual about them aside from their egos.

CypressHorn

ID_8615 wrote: »

Ppong_Man12 wrote: »

Then they’re buffing heroes again for the casual crowd, yet at the same time thy keep nerfing anything that harms them, its actually become pretty pathetic with the spoon feeding, even for a casual game.

I actually think the casual gamer has moved on from this game. I don't think they cater to the casual gamers much anymore. A casual gamer won't stick around long enough to toil through the game to "git gud" enough to grab an aerial, much less a hero in GA or CS before the dedicated Hero-Worshipper does. In the XBox & PS4 platforms, I see the same players suit up in to Heroes time and again. They're all about slaughtering the helpless as well. There's nothing casual about them aside from their egos.

This basically. This games seems to revolve around those that can master BP accumulation/spawn screen campers and then killstreak with a hero in GA/CS. I would not call that for the casual gamer.

Said this many times, I wish the CS ground phase maps were used for a new infantry only (Base 4) mode. Seems like that would be easy, and not demand many resources.

skincarver

CypressHorn wrote: »

ID_8615 wrote: »

Ppong_Man12 wrote: »

Then they’re buffing heroes again for the casual crowd, yet at the same time thy keep nerfing anything that harms them, its actually become pretty pathetic with the spoon feeding, even for a casual game.

I actually think the casual gamer has moved on from this game. I don't think they cater to the casual gamers much anymore. A casual gamer won't stick around long enough to toil through the game to "git gud" enough to grab an aerial, much less a hero in GA or CS before the dedicated Hero-Worshipper does. In the XBox & PS4 platforms, I see the same players suit up in to Heroes time and again. They're all about slaughtering the helpless as well. There's nothing casual about them aside from their egos.

Said this many times, I wish the CS ground phase maps were used for a new infantry only (Base 4) mode. Seems like that would be easy, and not demand many resources.

I would like that.

Shoeboxer51

skincarver wrote: »

CypressHorn wrote: »

ID_8615 wrote: »

Ppong_Man12 wrote: »

Then they’re buffing heroes again for the casual crowd, yet at the same time thy keep nerfing anything that harms them, its actually become pretty pathetic with the spoon feeding, even for a casual game.

I actually think the casual gamer has moved on from this game. I don't think they cater to the casual gamers much anymore. A casual gamer won't stick around long enough to toil through the game to "git gud" enough to grab an aerial, much less a hero in GA or CS before the dedicated Hero-Worshipper does. In the XBox & PS4 platforms, I see the same players suit up in to Heroes time and again. They're all about slaughtering the helpless as well. There's nothing casual about them aside from their egos.

Said this many times, I wish the CS ground phase maps were used for a new infantry only (Base 4) mode. Seems like that would be easy, and not demand many resources.

I would like that.

Yeah that would be cool... maybe change GA to the trooper only mode and keep CS as is? Just a thought. back to extraction now.