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Era locked CW Playlist, but Kylo leads the Droid army?

So it seems like we're going to have a Clone Wars era Playlist. I know some people hate this idea, but I'm not really trying to get feedback on people's thoughts about the playlist itself. personally, I don't mind the idea, though I wish they would leave both options on the table... one tile for the regular game, and one tile for the Clone Wars era playlist.

The issue I'm trying to point out and start discussion on is this: Why bother locking the entire mode down to one era if you're not going to lock the heroes as well? Are we really going to have an all Clone Wars playlist, but have Kylo Ren leading the Droid armies, or Darth Vader attacking the Clones?

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  • unit900000 wrote: »
    I think its more just so people can level Anakin easier personally I prefer to have access to whoever I want to play.

    So it would have been better just to Discount him for all maps...personally I prefer to have access to whichever map I want to play.
  • Again, whether you love or hate the idea of an era locked playlist, what they should do is have one option for regular gameplay, and one option for the era playlist. But that's not what I'm talking about.

    What I'm saying is, if they're going to bother having maps era locked, then they really need to era lock the heroes too.
  • Completely redundant event, unless they do this. But they won’t.
    Sadly, I think you're right. =/
  • Almost as bad as the “night time” event where they remove maps that don’t have an evening version. Close second for sure.
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  • hsf_
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    I've never understood why you'd add content to a game, then have these silly events which remove content... I mean I could understand if there were private servers available, and that "official" servers had the event running. Like they do with ARK, but they also have a server command which means you can take part in said events, on your private servers.
  • I say let any faction play on any map. Why limit what people can do with the game? OG Battlefront 2 never had any of these nonsense features. You could play as a storm trooper or rebel in the Jedi Temple and nobody cared. Clearly all of these era locking are just reducing the quality of the game.
  • I say let any faction play on any map. Why limit what people can do with the game? OG Battlefront 2 never had any of these nonsense features. You could play as a storm trooper or rebel in the Jedi Temple and nobody cared. Clearly all of these era locking are just reducing the quality of the game.

    Then why even bother making a Star Wars game? I mean, if you seriously don’t care... this is hardly the best shooter around.
  • I say let any faction play on any map. Why limit what people can do with the game? OG Battlefront 2 never had any of these nonsense features. You could play as a storm trooper or rebel in the Jedi Temple and nobody cared. Clearly all of these era locking are just reducing the quality of the game.

    Then why even bother making a Star Wars game? I mean, if you seriously don’t care... this is hardly the best shooter around.

    this is hardly a Star Wars game. It's more like a Star Wars themed game. A 3rd person version of Battlefield with Star Wars skins and weapons.

    restricting freedom of players and giving the excuse of "oh we just wanna provide an authentic Star Wars experience" is a bunch of nonsense. Nothing about this game feels like an authentic star wars experience, so they should just stop pretending like it does.
  • I say let any faction play on any map. Why limit what people can do with the game? OG Battlefront 2 never had any of these nonsense features. You could play as a storm trooper or rebel in the Jedi Temple and nobody cared. Clearly all of these era locking are just reducing the quality of the game.

    Then why even bother making a Star Wars game? I mean, if you seriously don’t care... this is hardly the best shooter around.

    this is hardly a Star Wars game. It's more like a Star Wars themed game. A 3rd person version of Battlefield with Star Wars skins and weapons.

    restricting freedom of players and giving the excuse of "oh we just wanna provide an authentic Star Wars experience" is a bunch of nonsense. Nothing about this game feels like an authentic star wars experience, so they should just stop pretending like it does.

    Nothing about this game feels like an authentic Star Wars experience? Have you tried roaming the streets of Mos Eisley? Or among the trees on Endor? They have gone out of their way to create authentic, highly atmospheric locations straight from the films, where everything; vehicles, trooper skins, reinforcements etc, are locked to their specific era except for the blasters and the, imo, completely in-your-face implementation of cross-era heroes. If they created an event, a CW event, where they atleast locked the heroes to the correct era, they’d be pretty much as authentic as I’d expect from a video game atleast.
  • Because the game isn’t designed to be played that way, it was designed with cross era in mind

    Feel free to wait until the next event to have no cross era
  • AuraStorm wrote: »
    Because the game isn’t designed to be played that way, it was designed with cross era in mind

    Feel free to wait until the next event to have no cross era

    Well anyways....PT only maps sure ruins that era crossing fix doesn't it? Neither side wins on this one, hah.
  • AuraStorm wrote: »
    Because the game isn’t designed to be played that way, it was designed with cross era in mind

    Never understood this... I don’t get how you mean.
  • PT maps are the worst maps in game as is. terrible idea for an event.
  • I say let any faction play on any map.
    Sounds great to me. I certainly wouldn't mind a clone wars era locked event if it allowed us to play Clones vs. Droids, not only on Naboo and Kamino and Kashyyyk and Geonosis, but also in Mos Eisley and Takodana and Crait and Hoth and Jabba's Palace and Yavin and Bespin. That'd be plenty of diversity and choice!

    But once again, there's no point to them doing anything like that unless they also lock the heroes to the proper eras.
  • How absurd cross era is.. And his sustainers too
  • I suppose there's also the two new clone legion skins, they might be trying to let people use those more often as well
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  • Empire_TW
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    edited February 9
    Relmets wrote: »
    I suppose there's also the two new clone legion skins, they might be trying to let people use those more often as well

    What about people who don't have interest in the new hero or the skins?
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  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    Relmets wrote: »
    I suppose there's also the two new clone legion skins, they might be trying to let people use those more often as well

    What about people who don't have interest in the new hero or the skins?

    Well, there’s always the emote wheel.
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  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    I say let any faction play on any map.
    Sounds great to me. I certainly wouldn't mind a clone wars era locked event if it allowed us to play Clones vs. Droids, not only on Naboo and Kamino and Kashyyyk and Geonosis, but also in Mos Eisley and Takodana and Crait and Hoth and Jabba's Palace and Yavin and Bespin. That'd be plenty of diversity and choice!

    But once again, there's no point to them doing anything like that unless they also lock the heroes to the proper eras.

    for galactic assault I can see why they do it, but for blast, strike, or extraction, I see no purpose. It's just limiting the variety in game that is already going stale.

    Heck, why not have actual events where same factions play against each other or the clones fight the empire or the droids fight the rebels.

    that would be something worthy of calling an event.
  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    Relmets wrote: »
    I suppose there's also the two new clone legion skins, they might be trying to let people use those more often as well

    What about people who don't have interest in the new hero or the skins?

    I guess you can immerse yourselves in a chapter or two of the Rogenbuster Chronicles
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  • Admiral_Xen
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    edited February 9
    If I play those trash maps it'll only be to make the chosen one eat sand 12 times a game and immerse myself in blowing up hundreds of rainbow clowns with space Janina.

    Sorry if my fun interferes with your roleplay or whatever.
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  • Hahaha, no. Funny how Heroes are the sticking point when they're are plenty of other anomalies to consider if one want's the so called "authentic" star wars experience. Sorry but your just killing game balance here. I thought that was made clear here with the era locked event, especially on ST maps. Lmao, If Heroes were as powerful and lethal as they were in BF2015 it'd make sense to limit them to one or at max 2 per game and keep it era specific. However with a massive overall drop in HP and lethality limiting either faction for some arbitrary, and frankly nonsensical "immersion" here, is just going to destroy game balance and make it near impossible for good players to carry bad teams period. it'd be another black mark on this already broken game without a doubt.

  • This is still an arcady shooter, not a playable film simulator, it's not mean't to be a replica and the tacitly plausible battle scenarios we see are just that. It's not meant to represent the canon. Otherwise Clones wouldn't be fighting on naboo, Differen't rainbow clone units wouldn't be fighting together, maul and yoda would be able to block, among plenty of other clear examples.

    And Yes. Get it through your heads, Anakin is going to be fighting Vader and no such lockout will exist. The debates been over. The truth Hurts, I know. But let's be honest with ourselves here, this game has far greater problems than out of era Heroes. Lets focus there first.
  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    Relmets wrote: »
    I suppose there's also the two new clone legion skins, they might be trying to let people use those more often as well

    What about people who don't have interest in the new hero or the skins?

    Well, there’s always the emote wheel.

    Epic content drop that will be.
    Relmets wrote: »
    Empire_TW wrote: »
    Relmets wrote: »
    I suppose there's also the two new clone legion skins, they might be trying to let people use those more often as well

    What about people who don't have interest in the new hero or the skins?

    I guess you can immerse yourselves in a chapter or two of the Rogenbuster Chronicles

    that's a chapter or 2 too many
    If I play those trash maps it'll only be to make the chosen one eat sand 12 times a game and immerse myself in blowing up hundreds of rainbow clowns with space Janina.

    Sorry if my fun interferes with your roleplay or whatever.

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  • I would honestly prefer if they opened all maps and just made Anakin and PT heroes as cheap as in era heroes or less, I don’t want to have to play CW only maps, some heroes do better on maps not as open or condensed as the CW maps.
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  • SVEJ
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    These "EVENTS" need to have separate playlist searches
  • Hahaha, no. Funny how Heroes are the sticking point when they're are plenty of other anomalies to consider if one want's the so called "authentic" star wars experience. Sorry but your just killing game balance here. I thought that was made clear here with the era locked event, especially on ST maps. Lmao, If Heroes were as powerful and lethal as they were in BF2015 it'd make sense to limit them to one or at max 2 per game and keep it era specific. However with a massive overall drop in HP and lethality limiting either faction for some arbitrary, and frankly nonsensical "immersion" here, is just going to destroy game balance and make it near impossible for good players to carry bad teams period. it'd be another black mark on this already broken game without a doubt.
    This is still an arcady shooter, not a playable film simulator, it's not mean't to be a replica and the tacitly plausible battle scenarios we see are just that. It's not meant to represent the canon. Otherwise Clones wouldn't be fighting on naboo, Differen't rainbow clone units wouldn't be fighting together, maul and yoda would be able to block, among plenty of other clear examples.

    And Yes. Get it through your heads, Anakin is going to be fighting Vader and no such lockout will exist. The debates been over. The truth Hurts, I know. But let's be honest with ourselves here, this game has far greater problems than out of era Heroes. Lets focus there first.

    Okay, thanks for the bump then atleast, @AbyssWatch3r !

    Lol, this guy...
  • If I play those trash maps it'll only be to make the chosen one eat sand 12 times a game and immerse myself in blowing up hundreds of rainbow clowns with space Janina.

    Sorry if my fun interferes with your roleplay or whatever.

    And again, aren’t you the guy coming up with roleplay-ish scenarios for turning some random campaign planet into a multiplayer map? What is wrong with just ”you start there, we start here - let’s fight it out”? Yeah...

    This isn’t about ”roleplaying”, man... This is about an authentic Star Wars experience, and it really isn’t far from when people are asking for specific planets and characters from the films to be put in the game. I mean, why waste resources on these immersive, beautifully rendered versions of Geonosis, and whatever other planets people are asking for, when they could just put down a few boxes in a white/grey 3d environment without a backdrop, and call it Geonosis? Bring in more gameplay developers instead. Seeing as authenticity isn’t important I mean. And remember that you can’t just want some authenticity. It’s all or nothing.
  • bfloo
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    I say let any faction play on any map. Why limit what people can do with the game? OG Battlefront 2 never had any of these nonsense features. You could play as a storm trooper or rebel in the Jedi Temple and nobody cared. Clearly all of these era locking are just reducing the quality of the game.

    Then why even bother making a Star Wars game? I mean, if you seriously don’t care... this is hardly the best shooter around.

    this is hardly a Star Wars game. It's more like a Star Wars themed game. A 3rd person version of Battlefield with Star Wars skins and weapons.

    restricting freedom of players and giving the excuse of "oh we just wanna provide an authentic Star Wars experience" is a bunch of nonsense. Nothing about this game feels like an authentic star wars experience, so they should just stop pretending like it does.

    It doesn't feel like a Star Wars game, it feels like a B shooter with Star Wars skins.

    It isn't even a battlefield.
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  • unit900000 wrote: »
    I think its more just so people can level Anakin easier personally I prefer to have access to whoever I want to play.

    Totally agree. If it's anything like dooku I won't get to play him until a month after relaunch snyway. New hero's have lost their mojo as far as I'm concerned. Who cares anymore.
  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    So it seems like we're going to have a Clone Wars era Playlist. I know some people hate this idea, but I'm not really trying to get feedback on people's thoughts about the playlist itself. personally, I don't mind the idea, though I wish they would leave both options on the table... one tile for the regular game, and one tile for the Clone Wars era playlist.

    The issue I'm trying to point out and start discussion on is this: Why bother locking the entire mode down to one era if you're not going to lock the heroes as well? Are we really going to have an all Clone Wars playlist, but have Kylo Ren leading the Droid armies, or Darth Vader attacking the Clones?

    Because people want to play the maps but would rather play however they want. It's like if they limited weapons. You'd only get 2 weapons per era, the default plus 1 other one. That's a terrible decision based around the sole purpose of feeling like it's immersive despite tons of other gameplay occurrences like being able to take around 10 different blaster bolts and being able to melee a B2 to death. The simple concept of cross-era heroes should not be the primary concern if immersion is the only need of everyone.
  • Okay, several of you are not understanding, or willfully trying to misunderstand. Or perhaps I failed to be clear. I'll assume it was me.

    I'm not trying to argue whether there should or should not be even just one mode in this game that has heroes in the right eras. That's been done, and that's not the point of this thread.

    All I'm saying is, if they're going to era-lock the maps, what does that accomplish at all if they're not going to era-lock the heroes?
  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    Okay, several of you are not understanding, or willfully trying to misunderstand. Or perhaps I failed to be clear. I'll assume it was me.

    I'm not trying to argue whether there should or should not be even just one mode in this game that has heroes in the right eras. That's been done, and that's not the point of this thread.

    All I'm saying is, if they're going to era-lock the maps, what does that accomplish at all if they're not going to era-lock the heroes?

    Thank you! This post wasn't about ANOTHER semantic debate about cross era vs era accurate.....it's about them limiting the maps as if that's more celebratory of Anakin showing up with Rey, Vader and everyone else on the Clone Wars maps. It makes no sense. This doesn't give you "better" options of getting Anakin (just because he's cheaper on CW maps)....we all know he's going to be HIGHLY difficult to grab his first weekend anyway....then they limit us to staring at Kashykk, Kamino, Naboo and Geonosis for three days....for what reason?
  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    All I'm saying is, if they're going to era-lock the maps, what does that accomplish at all if they're not going to era-lock the heroes?

    Lol, this. I can’t for the life of me figure out which group of players this event is really aimed at... The PT/Clone Wars fans? Sure, but wouldn’t it be nice if they just went: ”This following weekend we will do with the PT-era, what we did with the OT-era in BF2015. Have fun!” But no, even though the last four heroes were from this era, they don’t wanna let down the players who can’t do without Luke Skywalker for three days...
  • bfloo
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    JackTHorn wrote: »
    Okay, several of you are not understanding, or willfully trying to misunderstand. Or perhaps I failed to be clear. I'll assume it was me.

    I'm not trying to argue whether there should or should not be even just one mode in this game that has heroes in the right eras. That's been done, and that's not the point of this thread.

    All I'm saying is, if they're going to era-lock the maps, what does that accomplish at all if they're not going to era-lock the heroes?

    Short answer, nothing
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  • bfloo wrote: »
    JackTHorn wrote: »
    Okay, several of you are not understanding, or willfully trying to misunderstand. Or perhaps I failed to be clear. I'll assume it was me.

    I'm not trying to argue whether there should or should not be even just one mode in this game that has heroes in the right eras. That's been done, and that's not the point of this thread.

    All I'm saying is, if they're going to era-lock the maps, what does that accomplish at all if they're not going to era-lock the heroes?

    Short answer, nothing

    I'd prefer that they just left it with all maps and just triple exp.
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  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    All I'm saying is, if they're going to era-lock the maps, what does that accomplish at all if they're not going to era-lock the heroes?

    Lol, this. I can’t for the life of me figure out which group of players this event is really aimed at... The PT/Clone Wars fans? Sure, but wouldn’t it be nice if they just went: ”This following weekend we will do with the PT-era, what we did with the OT-era in BF2015. Have fun!” But no, even though the last four heroes were from this era, they don’t wanna let down the players who can’t do without Luke Skywalker for three days...

    i'm so shocked how we arrive in the star wars community (the community of fans that more ask for accurate things) to have players that sustain cross era. But returning on topic, if they implement a clone wars map playlist, don't make sense to put in Kylo Ren.. just let us enjoy a true star wars experience for some days
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