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Looking at his stats anakin just made his son & obi wan obsolete in GA. Maybe even yoda since he can have 1000 health. I'm HvV luke & yoda are afterthoughts now. Obi wan & anakin will be must have on the lightside now. Imagine obi-wan mindtricking you just for anakin to break your block or being boba & hit with a pull & mindtrick combo. Rey is the only one who deal damage close to obi-wan with cards but the point is buff the old heros & villians. Vader should be able to do 150 damage with furious resilience active. You guys are already buffing kylo so I won't talk about him. Luke & maul should do 120 base damage & 130 with dash strikes & their force abilities should do over 100 damage to heros & villians. I will never play the old heros when anakin & Obi wan make them obsolete

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  • We're setting an extremely dangerous precedent here now. The older cast should be balanced out, certainly, but if "Cheap" is the new "gamechanger", then I honestly don't know what to tell you.

    Make no mistake. On paper, Anakin is nothing but.
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  • Honestly Obi-wan is still less effective at fighting than rey, literally the only thing holding him back form being obsolete is the high regen threshold that comes second only to bossk. The whole Idea of the most defensive light side Hero kinda falls flat on it's face, especially when his block is unreliable at best. More of a poorly designed offensive Hero IMO.

    Luke is slightly better, but that 200 regen is just a joke. Permanent damage over rapid regen, Lmao what? Who's idea was this?

    Obi wan is better than rey & luke as far as HvV.
  • Honestly Obi-wan is still less effective at fighting than rey, literally the only thing holding him back form being obsolete is the high regen threshold that comes second only to bossk. The whole Idea of the most defensive light side Hero kinda falls flat on it's face, especially when his block is unreliable at best. More of a poorly designed offensive Hero IMO.

    Luke is slightly better, but that 200 regen is just a joke. Permanent damage over rapid regen, Lmao what? Who's idea was this?

    Obi wan is better than rey & luke as far as HvV.

    I mean in GA, where they should honestly balance the heroes. Being off the Radar and completely nullifying roll spam is what sets her beyond pretty much everyone else at this point. Obi-wan doesn't really fulfill his role of "tank" or defensive master, and falls short of really dishing out any serious damage.

    He's totally overshadowed by anakin at this point, and given their duel on mustafar, he needs his own niche that he beats anakin at. Not just +50 regen or longer block stamina, but something that really sets him apart. Maybe a 360 degree block stance? Block? while running? At any rate, what we have now is unacceptable for such a renown Hero.
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  • I agree they got powercreeped pretty hard though saying Yoda, Finn or Rey is obsolete in GA is a bit much. I do agree hes a must pick in HvV if you want to win its Anakin, Han, Lando and whatever 4th depending on the situation.
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  • unit900000 wrote: »
    I agree they got powercreeped pretty hard though saying Yoda, Finn or Rey is obsolete in GA is a bit much. I do agree hes a must pick in HvV if you want to win its Anakin, Han, Lando and whatever 4th depending on the situation.

    Finn is already obsolete you will hardly ever see him in phase 1 even in his era. I didn't say they would(yoda maybe) Finn & rey nobody is,gonna choose them over anakin & the fact he does damage all around him makes him a top tier character over rey & finn. Yoda & anakin will be the new op please nerf shtick. Everyone taking damage while buffed & anakin can just punish them
  • unit900000 wrote: »
    I agree they got powercreeped pretty hard though saying Yoda, Finn or Rey is obsolete in GA is a bit much. I do agree hes a must pick in HvV if you want to win its Anakin, Han, Lando and whatever 4th depending on the situation.

    Finn is already obsolete you will hardly ever see him in phase 1 even in his era. I didn't say they would(yoda maybe) Finn & rey nobody is,gonna choose them over anakin & the fact he does damage all around him makes him a top tier character over rey & finn. Yoda & anakin will be the new op please nerf shtick. Everyone taking damage while buffed & anakin can just punish them

    What I'm truly curious to see, but also extremely frightened to see, is how Anakin will perform when coupled with a Big Deal. Will he be outright invulnerable with that 90% damage reduction and Finn's effect up, and how often can he cast his stuff with the faster Recharge.
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  • KresusFIN wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    I agree they got powercreeped pretty hard though saying Yoda, Finn or Rey is obsolete in GA is a bit much. I do agree hes a must pick in HvV if you want to win its Anakin, Han, Lando and whatever 4th depending on the situation.

    Finn is already obsolete you will hardly ever see him in phase 1 even in his era. I didn't say they would(yoda maybe) Finn & rey nobody is,gonna choose them over anakin & the fact he does damage all around him makes him a top tier character over rey & finn. Yoda & anakin will be the new op please nerf shtick. Everyone taking damage while buffed & anakin can just punish them

    What I'm truly curious to see, but also extremely frightened to see, is how Anakin will perform when coupled with a Big Deal. Will he be outright invulnerable with that 90% damage reduction and Finn's effect up, and how often can he cast his stuff with the faster Recharge.

    Wowwwwww didn't even think about that. I'm so curious now. He might just be invincible
  • I agree with Yoda getting a block against sabers and a speed and jump buff
  • Disney's/Lucasfilm's/EA's/DICE's response to all former and current posts calling for:
    Any reasonable (and obvious) buffing to the Light Side characters OR
    Any nerfing to any of the Dark Side characters...
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  • Underpowered Heroes are..
    The Forgotten Ones

    :'(
  • Yes. I'm actually working on some serious suggestions for the heroes.

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  • KresusFIN wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    I agree they got powercreeped pretty hard though saying Yoda, Finn or Rey is obsolete in GA is a bit much. I do agree hes a must pick in HvV if you want to win its Anakin, Han, Lando and whatever 4th depending on the situation.

    Finn is already obsolete you will hardly ever see him in phase 1 even in his era. I didn't say they would(yoda maybe) Finn & rey nobody is,gonna choose them over anakin & the fact he does damage all around him makes him a top tier character over rey & finn. Yoda & anakin will be the new op please nerf shtick. Everyone taking damage while buffed & anakin can just punish them

    What I'm truly curious to see, but also extremely frightened to see, is how Anakin will perform when coupled with a Big Deal. Will he be outright invulnerable with that 90% damage reduction and Finn's effect up, and how often can he cast his stuff with the faster Recharge.

    Wowwwwww didn't even think about that. I'm so curious now. He might just be invincible

    Yeah. Meta for GA is Anakin and Finn, plus Rey and Yoda. This will be the squad to hold Theed by themselves. Anakin replaces Obi as the Tank, Finn the support, Yoda the support/attacker, and Rey the UAV/Attacker and disabler. Ultimate team.
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    I agree they got powercreeped pretty hard though saying Yoda, Finn or Rey is obsolete in GA is a bit much. I do agree hes a must pick in HvV if you want to win its Anakin, Han, Lando and whatever 4th depending on the situation.

    Finn is already obsolete you will hardly ever see him in phase 1 even in his era. I didn't say they would(yoda maybe) Finn & rey nobody is,gonna choose them over anakin & the fact he does damage all around him makes him a top tier character over rey & finn. Yoda & anakin will be the new op please nerf shtick. Everyone taking damage while buffed & anakin can just punish them

    What I'm truly curious to see, but also extremely frightened to see, is how Anakin will perform when coupled with a Big Deal. Will he be outright invulnerable with that 90% damage reduction and Finn's effect up, and how often can he cast his stuff with the faster Recharge.

    Wowwwwww didn't even think about that. I'm so curious now. He might just be invincible

    Yeah. Meta for GA is Anakin and Finn, plus Rey and Yoda. This will be the squad to hold Theed by themselves. Anakin replaces Obi as the Tank, Finn the support, Yoda the support/attacker, and Rey the UAV/Attacker and disabler. Ultimate team.

    Ironic too considering anakins all offense. Obi-wans been needing a buff since he's ben released. Totally lack luster hero given his renown. Needs to really stand out as hard to kill. Maybe some additional traits while blocking.
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  • GenxDarchi
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    edited February 23
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    I agree they got powercreeped pretty hard though saying Yoda, Finn or Rey is obsolete in GA is a bit much. I do agree hes a must pick in HvV if you want to win its Anakin, Han, Lando and whatever 4th depending on the situation.

    Finn is already obsolete you will hardly ever see him in phase 1 even in his era. I didn't say they would(yoda maybe) Finn & rey nobody is,gonna choose them over anakin & the fact he does damage all around him makes him a top tier character over rey & finn. Yoda & anakin will be the new op please nerf shtick. Everyone taking damage while buffed & anakin can just punish them

    What I'm truly curious to see, but also extremely frightened to see, is how Anakin will perform when coupled with a Big Deal. Will he be outright invulnerable with that 90% damage reduction and Finn's effect up, and how often can he cast his stuff with the faster Recharge.

    Wowwwwww didn't even think about that. I'm so curious now. He might just be invincible

    Yeah. Meta for GA is Anakin and Finn, plus Rey and Yoda. This will be the squad to hold Theed by themselves. Anakin replaces Obi as the Tank, Finn the support, Yoda the support/attacker, and Rey the UAV/Attacker and disabler. Ultimate team.

    Ironic too considering anakins all offense. Obi-wans been needing a buff since he's ben released. Totally lack luster hero given his renown. Needs to really stand out as hard to kill. Maybe some additional traits while blocking.

    Yeah man, how the heck does he not have anything related to Soresu. Here's an idea for a fourth abiltiy like soresu.

    Obi Wan charges this ability by blocking enemies and taking damage. when this ability is charged, Obi Wan gains the ability to block in a 270 degree angle around him, gains 350 bonus health ( Does not diminish over time, only by being damaged) and when blocking, reflects all blaster shots back with supreme accuracy, and the reflected shots dealing 80 extra damage. If a saber user strikes his block, he does a riposte ( Or since DICE isn't doing a new animation for Obi, he gains 100 extra damage for three seconds.) dealing high damage. (Or alternatively, he does 70 damage, drains all stamina, and knocks them back with a front kick.). Soresu lasts for 30 seconds, and there is no noticeable animation except at the start of the ability, so you can't just tell when he's using soresu. This would make Kenobi actually worth using even with his mediocre abilities.
    Edit: HE also gains 50% movement speed while blocking, so he isn't a sitting duck while doing so.
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  • Laser921
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    edited February 23
    *cough cough* Luke still needs major work, what with abilities not working half the time and rush? Does pathetic damage to heroes but works fine on troopers. Also Anakin is getting four abilities, the other heroes better be as well or Dice will prove to me (its already been proven) that they dont understand what balance means. All of Lukes abilities either need a slight damage buff, he needs a health buff, or just make his abilities more consistent. He's supposed to be a hit and run character not a glass cannon (minus the cannon) You know a character is not great when the saying "He's fine, when abilities work" applies.
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  • unit900000 wrote: »
    I agree they got powercreeped pretty hard though saying Yoda, Finn or Rey is obsolete in GA is a bit much. I do agree hes a must pick in HvV if you want to win its Anakin, Han, Lando and whatever 4th depending on the situation.

    Finn is already obsolete you will hardly ever see him in phase 1 even in his era. I didn't say they would(yoda maybe) Finn & rey nobody is,gonna choose them over anakin & the fact he does damage all around him makes him a top tier character over rey & finn. Yoda & anakin will be the new op please nerf shtick. Everyone taking damage while buffed & anakin can just punish them

    Finn is viable on at least one phase on most maps and on said phases hes around Yoda and Reys level he has a health buff that also gives damage reduction and no overheat on blasters and his deadeye when used right can keep any enemys from pushing on whatever hes trying to defend.
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  • unit900000
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    edited February 23






    @Thechosen1_anakin guess im making a big deal(no pun intended lmao) out of what you said but here is some game play you just gotta know when to use him and were to use him at rather thats a spot like the top floor on Endor or a specific phase.

    edit: also your in the first video lol
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  • unit900000 wrote: »






    @Thechosen1_anakin guess im making a big deal(no pun intended lmao) out of what you said but here is some game play you just gotta know when to use him and were to use him at rather thats a spot like the top floor on Endor or a specific phase.

    edit: also your in the first video lol

    Oh yeah i remember that game. I think Finn is a good hero & during the last phase of like naboo or the second phase of it he excels but, with anakin dealing upward to 400 damage with 90 damage reduction for 3 moves & being able to defend himself against adversaries he's the more attractive option. People like lightsabers & finn doesn't attract people like Obi wan or yoda do.
  • unit900000 wrote: »






    @Thechosen1_anakin guess im making a big deal(no pun intended lmao) out of what you said but here is some game play you just gotta know when to use him and were to use him at rather thats a spot like the top floor on Endor or a specific phase.

    edit: also your in the first video lol

    By obsolete i don't mean they want ever be used just that players will use them less & less for the more attractive option which is lightsabers
  • Finn will probably always be my first pick in GA if given the option. The sabers don't particularly appeal to me in that mode. And I feel I can be of more use with that insane buff.

    But yeah, very curious to see how much it affect Anakin, I will admit.
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  • How all the unnecessary nerfs are coming back to show people how pointless they are! Don't worry anakin will be nerfed into the ground too
  • How all the unnecessary nerfs are coming back to show people how pointless they are! Don't worry anakin will be nerfed into the ground too

    Heres my thing with anakin, he wont need to be nerfed into the ground but if one hero is going to have four abilities, its kinda of unfair to keep all the others at 3
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  • Laser921 wrote: »
    How all the unnecessary nerfs are coming back to show people how pointless they are! Don't worry anakin will be nerfed into the ground too

    Heres my thing with anakin, he wont need to be nerfed into the ground but if one hero is going to have four abilities, its kinda of unfair to keep all the others at 3

    yep, every hero now needs their own unique version of this new Overwatch copypasta ultimate thing

    just like launch heroes from BF2015 had to get traits added to them when DLC ones were clearly better
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  • I’d love to see new things added to each of the heroes to make them feel powerful fun and unique. A fourth ability could work for some heroes for example Phasma could have her pistol. Boba could have an improved thermal detonator on a short cooldown to make him feel like he’s armed to the teeth.
    If fourth abilities aren’t options for everyone, passive traits could be good, like something to do with gambling with Lando. Obi wan could have sprint while blocking to separate him from other saber users, like Dooku has his extra dash to make him feel elegant and evasive.
    No hero should feel like a boring option and expanding their arsenal a giving traits would be a great start
  • Laser921 wrote: »
    How all the unnecessary nerfs are coming back to show people how pointless they are! Don't worry anakin will be nerfed into the ground too

    Heres my thing with anakin, he wont need to be nerfed into the ground but if one hero is going to have four abilities, its kinda of unfair to keep all the others at 3

    Nothing needed to be nerfed at all in this game yet here we are and believe me it will happen
  • AVGN
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    It is the old 2015 Bossk/Chewie dilema all over again, i love it! Haha. Classic DICE.
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  • Laser921 wrote: »
    How all the unnecessary nerfs are coming back to show people how pointless they are! Don't worry anakin will be nerfed into the ground too

    Heres my thing with anakin, he wont need to be nerfed into the ground but if one hero is going to have four abilities, its kinda of unfair to keep all the others at 3

    Nothing needed to be nerfed at all in this game yet here we are and believe me it will happen

    There needs to be strong opposition to any nerfs from the get go. Devs need to know they did something right for a change, for those who don't care to play HvV, Playing a saber hero in Galactic assault becomes a chore and not fun to play in general compared to most other Heroes. They really don't turn the tide in a competitive lobby, save passively buffing your team like Yoda or rey.

    @F8RGE, any plans to give other saber Heroes a 4th ability? Kinda like you did with traits in BF2015? This is a real chance to get a rework for a lot of Heroes that simply can't hold a candle in Galactic Assault. Chewbacca, Phasma in particular.
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  • All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game
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  • Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.
  • Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.

    Nah, every hero needs an ult like Anakin, and this should be the new precedent.
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  • Raices
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    Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.

    Dooku needs the 3rd dash, i don't think Anakin really needed a 4th ability tbh.
  • Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.

    so you think only Anakin should have four abilities? How is this balanced? Although I agree with the extra dodge
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.

    Nah, every hero needs an ult like Anakin, and this should be the new precedent.

    If anything, this would add some wow factor to the game for lack of a better word, there can be an ability unique to those heroes. Like with Luke, lets face it, the force push is not unique because Obi and Yoda have it. I would say borrow for Empire At War Force Of Corruption and give him an ability where he absorbs damage for a short time but cant have that now. They could bring back the Force Speed and have an ability with a short duration where he runs faster or something like that. But this latest news with Anakin proves to me that they dont know how to balance. Just because the DS is op, in heroes vs villains at least, doesnt mean we need an overpowered hero with four abilities when all other heroes only have three
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  • AVGN
    508 posts Member
    Laser921 wrote: »
    Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.

    so you think only Anakin should have four abilities? How is this balanced? Although I agree with the extra dodge

    Balance was thrown out the window a long time ago, my friend... right know i'd be more than happy if they made HoK just a passive for all heroes so i don't have to "waste" a card slot.
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  • Raices wrote: »
    Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.

    Dooku needs the 3rd dash, i don't think Anakin really needed a 4th ability tbh.

    Dooku doesn't need that 3rd dash at all. Don't forget he has a quick recharge of them so was adding a 3rd really necessary? No
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.

    Nah, every hero needs an ult like Anakin, and this should be the new precedent.

    Just because 1 hero comes out with 1 doesn't mean everyone should. They already said they gave him one to signify he's the chosen one & no plans are currently in development.
  • AbyssWatch3r
    4974 posts Member
    edited February 23
    AVGN wrote: »
    Laser921 wrote: »
    Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.

    so you think only Anakin should have four abilities? How is this balanced? Although I agree with the extra dodge

    Balance was thrown out the window a long time ago, my friend... right know i'd be more than happy if they made HoK just a passive for all heroes so i don't have to "waste" a card slot.

    This. Regen needs to be looked at as well. 150 has been pathetically low since launch, and the 200 regen on luke wasn't a buff. I'd rather not take damage period, than regen it faster. A +50 increase to the old cast across the board would be a nice first step. Close range Heroes like chewbacca should have more. Obviously heal on charge slam needs to be moved, taking damage to heal is an oxymoron in that context.
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  • I agree with that, health on killl should always have been passive but no, lets give cards for it. Oh, and lets make our newer heroes get a max of 110. Every hero should just have the same cap and a passive hok
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Laser921 wrote: »
    All heroes should eventually get a specific 4th ability, if not for better balance than simply to provide something new for the game

    No. I take it every hero should get a 3rd dash as well like dooku.

    Nah, every hero needs an ult like Anakin, and this should be the new precedent.

    Just because 1 hero comes out with 1 doesn't mean everyone should. They already said they gave him one to signify he's the chosen one & no plans are currently in development.

    Which is why Im pretty certain dice knows nothing about balancing, especially when all the changes they make to heroes or more for HvV, not galactic assault
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