Darth Vader is THE second most overpowered hero in HvV
August 12, 2019 3:52PM
edited August 12
For some odd reason he has received throughout the 2 years the game has been out almost nothing but buffs. He received 1 nerf which addressed his choke but, other than that just buffs. Darth Vader is a hero who cannot be beaten by a single character outside of maybe Yoda(broken) when characters are of equal skill. He easily defeats the others heroes into submission especially blaster heroes like Finn & Leia. His high defensive stamina, high health & his combo makes him THE second broken hero in HvV which will be made even worse in 2 weeks. Here's how to nerf vaders in HvV without touching him against troopers
Force Choke
This move cannot be dodge, has 90% damage reduction, deals massive damage & to top it off has CC immunity. So he will always have a guaranteed 470 damage combo with punishing grip & 500 to 515 with rage. Where I'm I getting these numbers from when vaders choke throw combo only does 300 you say? Take a look
Performing the move like this grants him with & without rage 500 & 515 damage. That is pretty much the entire opponents health bar & leaves Finn & Leia at 1 shot & han & other at 2. Also performing it like this gives him 470 if you don't dash behind
That is just with punishing grip & focused rage. Without punishing grip & performed like the vid above he still does 400 that is guaranteed. I have seen post on here & on Reddit saying make it dodgeable which is the wrong way to solve the problem. Instead of making the move useless against sabers like passionate strike might i suggest instead of making it rollable/dodgeable nerf the damage on both moves. Force choke should do 100 damage against heroes & with punishing grip allows him to do 150. The moves CC immunity should also be removed. I should be able to be a good teammate & save my teammates from his damaging choke.
Saber throw
The move that puts the icing on the overpowered cake is this move right here. Vaders saber throw should do 90 damage against heroes. While not remotely op by itself the move coupled with choke does way to much damage & that's without the ever elusive return hit Vader can hardly ever get. Since the damage is low vaders saber throw should be exactly like mauls in the sense that the return hit is almost always guaranteed. Which would make his saber throw card which increases the damage by 40 more viable. This along with the changes to choke mentioned above would bring his damage down to 320 & 350 without rage & punishing grip. & with rage & punishing grip 385 & 415.
OP card combination
These 2 cards allow vader to do an extra 72 damage which equals 262 damage off a single choke & when performed like above let's him do 542 & 587 damage exactly. With the suggested nerfs above vader would do 222 damage of choke which is the exact amount of damage anakin does with retribution & drop his combo damage with these cards by 100.
Force Choke
This move cannot be dodge, has 90% damage reduction, deals massive damage & to top it off has CC immunity. So he will always have a guaranteed 470 damage combo with punishing grip & 500 to 515 with rage. Where I'm I getting these numbers from when vaders choke throw combo only does 300 you say? Take a look
Performing the move like this grants him with & without rage 500 & 515 damage. That is pretty much the entire opponents health bar & leaves Finn & Leia at 1 shot & han & other at 2. Also performing it like this gives him 470 if you don't dash behind
That is just with punishing grip & focused rage. Without punishing grip & performed like the vid above he still does 400 that is guaranteed. I have seen post on here & on Reddit saying make it dodgeable which is the wrong way to solve the problem. Instead of making the move useless against sabers like passionate strike might i suggest instead of making it rollable/dodgeable nerf the damage on both moves. Force choke should do 100 damage against heroes & with punishing grip allows him to do 150. The moves CC immunity should also be removed. I should be able to be a good teammate & save my teammates from his damaging choke.
Saber throw
The move that puts the icing on the overpowered cake is this move right here. Vaders saber throw should do 90 damage against heroes. While not remotely op by itself the move coupled with choke does way to much damage & that's without the ever elusive return hit Vader can hardly ever get. Since the damage is low vaders saber throw should be exactly like mauls in the sense that the return hit is almost always guaranteed. Which would make his saber throw card which increases the damage by 40 more viable. This along with the changes to choke mentioned above would bring his damage down to 320 & 350 without rage & punishing grip. & with rage & punishing grip 385 & 415.
OP card combination
These 2 cards allow vader to do an extra 72 damage which equals 262 damage off a single choke & when performed like above let's him do 542 & 587 damage exactly. With the suggested nerfs above vader would do 222 damage of choke which is the exact amount of damage anakin does with retribution & drop his combo damage with these cards by 100.
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Lol don't worry he's in the series finale of this hero is broken in HvV plz nerf. Coming soon
I don't get it
Other than that, Vader is a powerful hero in the right spot.
Oh for him i'm afraid it is "in HvV and GA and CS"
Nah. Choke combo is pretty op & unfair to blaster heroes.
Lmao I was gonna put all the modes in don't worry
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Yeah look at this crap. Well timed dodge did nothing. Skilless abilities prevail in this game. Any form of counter play goes out the window. In other words it rewards lame gameplay mechanics more than actual skill.
But no, lets give Vader 90% and CC immunity on top of that. What a great idea...
You deserved it for running the Swolo skin instead of the great and powahful Trench Coat Han
Shameful display it brings shame to us all
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It was hot on Kashyyk. Had to go with no sleeved jacket.
Counter play has been thrown out the window lately lol. Vader, boba & Yoda are 3 heroes with no viable counters.
Lies, Excuses, Deception. Kashyyk isn't any hotter then Tatooine or Endor
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I still don’t know why you think yoda is broken.
Dash strike going through blocks, one of the best defensive heroes in the game, smallest hit box in the game, easily sends blasters into the spawn screen, can have 960 health which is more tanky than anakin & vader, a better duelist than dooku, can release himself from all CC abilities, & 1 second regen coupled with his dash allows players to play him in the most toxic way possible when in a 1v1 saber engagement. Block, dash, block, dash, block, dash, block. If a yoda player doesn't want you to kill him you won't be able to. This dude can do everything with no weaknesses to exploit.
sounds like someone with a jetpack hmmm.
Yoda has had great surviveability since day 1, especially in GA.
Pirate of the Knights of Gareth
Yes yoda vs boba is a stalemate of epic proportions lol. I can't kill you you can't kill me.
It was always the same with Yoda vs Palps as well.
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Yeah that's true even when they gave him a health card Idk why someone would use it.
He never needed the saber block.
Only good change was the higher jump.
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I like that & the increased run speed. Everything else is just unnecessary to me.
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You know what nvm I'll just keep using Vader to send Leia's into the spawn screen with little effort. Not worried about kylo & dooku is trash
He wouldnt kill his own daughter
He doesn't know lol
Uhm tell anakin that
I mean i kinda agree but you would have to get relatively close in order to preform said combo and within that time they could do massive damage or maybe even kill you so i mean it sounds pretty fair
Anakin was waaaay over nerfed and at this point needs a few buffs to passionate strike and heroic might unlike some heroes who undoubtedly need huge buffs like Obi-Wan. Nerfing heroes to be balanced with the obvious weaker ones is a bad call. I agree some things do need to be nerfed like your claims for Yoda. You’re 100% right. However I think buffing the heroes that need it the most will drastically change how we perceive some of the better heroes. Take Kylo. He was a below tier hero who was easily beaten by a good Rey and everyone claimed Rey was too powerful. A few buffs here and there to Kylo, without touching Rey, her standing dropped because Kylo simply just got better. Buffing characters like Anakin and Obi-Wan will help counter Vader. Obi-Wan has a stupid op mind trick, do you know how good he’d be against Vader if they buffed him the right way? And Anakin is simply the only person able to go toe to toe with him damage and health wise. I’m just suggesting buffing other attributes of heroes rather than going straight to nerf.
Boba. Will be even more op in 2 weeks but then again so will vader might be a 1a 1b type of thing.
Guess it's back to GA for me.
Boba yes, Vader not likely. There’s better cards to run than one that gives back stamina per kill unless it’s like 50%. I think the Luke, Leia, and Finn cards are going to be the more dominate ones
I'm not talking about that stamina card though. Bonus health, punishing grip, furious resilience. Punishing grip, last gasp, & furious resilience are the set ups I'm going to use.
Then you gotta deal with Leia, Finn, Anakin & Yoda lol.
Freaking hate Boba.
Any planned buffs for Leia? Should I give up on that on too?
Bonus health, furious resilience, and punishing grip is beastly. Especially once he has passive HoK
Then I guess I should just not play this game lmao oh well we will see how things turn out once this update drops though Palps looking like he is going to be pretty strong in GA I hope he can spam his chain lightning like crazy.
I hope so. They said they got stuff planned so who knows
Forgot they said they was gonna buff Leia might have some hope for HvV after all (if they give her old officers flash)
Well yea true but there is typically a han,lando or chewy on field or even worse 2 of the 3 so thats alot of damage that can be done to vader with them stuns and my personal most hated weapon the MIGHTY BOWCASTER.Don't get mean wrong typically when vader is on top of a blaster hero its over but at the same time han,lando and chewy have the means to possibly survive and or kill.Im not against a nerf a or buff i just personally feel hes pretty solid where he's at