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It’s Time To Talk About How OP Han Solo Is

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It’s the Elephant in the room.

To be honest, it always has been.

Han Solo is OP compared to other Blaster Heroes in this game. Why does no one talk about it?

His Blaster deals the most base damage. He also has a Star Card that reduces the heat build up of his Blaster, significantly. Let’s talk about his abilities, shall we?

Sharpshooter is basically no cap mode and will overwhelm any blocking Saber Villain with the exception of Vader, maybe. This is his worst ability, btw.
Shoulder Charge breaks block AND causes knockback?!
Perfectly Balanced Detonite - DESTROYS blocking Saber Villains and sends them flying through the Galaxy. Absurd damage for an ability that doesn’t have a super long cool down. Damage can be increased even further with the Air Burst card?! Very balanced, DICE.

Now he is going to receive a Star Card that allows him to roll a third time, when HoK becomes passive. What?? Sounds like there’s a bit of favouritism going on here.

Having said all that, he’s still not as ridiculous as Balanced Bossk (Triple B) and not as impossible to kill as Bolting Boba/Flyaway Fett.

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  • Hmmmm 🤔
  • lerodemmy wrote: »
    That third roll is ridiculous. These devs. Good heavens.

    Yes. Nerf Han. Nerf the DS too, but nerf Han.

    It's about time someone made this thread.

    Double hmmmm 🤔

    Just buff Anakin :D

    Well that too but, that's not what I mean.
  • I think Hans pretty balanced.

    For the most part yes but a 240 detonite charge that can't be blocked(it can actually be rolled) allowing him to do 500 plus damage because he can shoot while throwing it & then he can ragdoll you again for another 150. Amazing how anakins passionate strike which did similar damage got a ridiculous damage nerf yet han still has crazy damage

    If you see han throwing his definite then dodge immediately behind cover. Make sure you know when it’s in cooldown and you’ll be fine. Agree with passionate strike needing a buff though.
  • I think Hans pretty balanced.

    For the most part yes but a 240 detonite charge that can't be blocked(it can actually be rolled) allowing him to do 500 plus damage because he can shoot while throwing it & then he can ragdoll you again for another 150. Amazing how anakins passionate strike which did similar damage got a ridiculous damage nerf yet han still has crazy damage

    Yes thank you. Projectile blockbreaker and rag doll yet to be nerfed but Anakin has to be kissing you in order for his PS to work yet PS is the one to get nerfed. Yikes
  • Lol. Just no.

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  • ROMG4
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    edited August 18


    No nerfs NOOOOOOO
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  • Lawnmow3rMan
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    edited August 18
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    He's a true glass cannon. Not overpowered, just very dangerous when ignored or not killed quickly.

    Kylo Ren & Vader can absolutely destroy him without losing any permanent health. He doesn't need a nerf, though I will say that he is the easiest hero to use & get top score with in HvV because his damage output is insane.

    This. He has crazy high damage but has low health and is generally easy to kill. One Vader combo and hes toast. Players have to have good aim to be successful with Han, and LS needs a blaster with high damage since all the Chewy nerfs. He needs no nerfs.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    He's a true glass cannon. Not overpowered, just very dangerous when ignored or not killed quickly.

    Kylo Ren & Vader can absolutely destroy him without losing any permanent health. He doesn't need a nerf, though I will say that he is the easiest hero to use & get top score with in HvV because his damage output is insane.

    Han’s son stands no chance against his Father. Literally just throw the Perfectly Balanced Detonite to ragdoll him, activate Sharpshooter to drain his stamina, then finish him off with a Shoulder Charge. Simple. If Kylo can kill you without losing any permanent health maybe you need to git gud

    Lol, get a load of this guy.

    Never said I have trouble vs Kylo with Han. I simply stated that anyone, myself included, can beat Han without taking heavy damage when using Kylo. You specified a perfect scenario for Han, but you forget it can go completely in Kylo's favour as well. If Han gets pulled to Kylo's feet, Kylo gets 2 free strikes with Frenzy or with his basic attack. Then bait the roll and Freeze Han, attack his back and he's 100% dead.

    Also, Sharpshooter doesn't drain Kylo's stamina anywhere near as quickly as you're claiming. Kylo can block all of it and have about 8 swings left in him, plus Frenzy.

    Wrong again, you’re clearly not a very skilled player. Probably why you’re always rejecting @lerodemmy requests to play a game of HvV.

    Back to the matter at hand. If Kylo or any other Saber gets close to me and attempts to swing, I’m just going to Shoulder Charge them from close range to;

    i) Break their block
    ii) Send them flying
    iii) Deal 150 damage

    Han is ridiculous. The amount of advantages he has compared to other Blasters is just incredible. Although, it’s no surprise people on here are defending him, these are the same people who think Bossk is Balanced and that Boba’s instant air recovery is absolutely fine!
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    He's a true glass cannon. Not overpowered, just very dangerous when ignored or not killed quickly.

    Kylo Ren & Vader can absolutely destroy him without losing any permanent health. He doesn't need a nerf, though I will say that he is the easiest hero to use & get top score with in HvV because his damage output is insane.

    Han’s son stands no chance against his Father. Literally just throw the Perfectly Balanced Detonite to ragdoll him, activate Sharpshooter to drain his stamina, then finish him off with a Shoulder Charge. Simple. If Kylo can kill you without losing any permanent health maybe you need to git gud

    Lol, get a load of this guy.

    Never said I have trouble vs Kylo with Han. I simply stated that anyone, myself included, can beat Han without taking heavy damage when using Kylo. You specified a perfect scenario for Han, but you forget it can go completely in Kylo's favour as well. If Han gets pulled to Kylo's feet, Kylo gets 2 free strikes with Frenzy or with his basic attack. Then bait the roll and Freeze Han, attack his back and he's 100% dead.

    Also, Sharpshooter doesn't drain Kylo's stamina anywhere near as quickly as you're claiming. Kylo can block all of it and have about 8 swings left in him, plus Frenzy.

    I agree with this. If there's a 1v1 I find myself as Kylo vs Han (as I never play Han), it's an extremely precarious one. It can go either way. Kylo is incredibly good against blaster heroes, and Han has an incredible damage output. If you aren't careful enough with any of the two, you'll be finished quickly by the other one.

    I understand the feeling that Han is too strong, but he's also too weak. The true glass cannon of SWBFII2017. The amount of times I got destroyed by a good Han gameplay is also closely followed by the amount of times I pawned a good Han with a saber user. But if Han has a good team to support him, then it becomes really hard to get a revenge kill. However that's not an issue with Han, but rather an issue with how some team combos are incredibly better compared to others, and how team balance plays a much bigger role then anything else in this game when it comes to a fair match
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  • I think Hans pretty balanced.

    For the most part yes but a 240 detonite charge that can't be blocked(it can actually be rolled) allowing him to do 500 plus damage because he can shoot while throwing it & then he can ragdoll you again for another 150. Amazing how anakins passionate strike which did similar damage got a ridiculous damage nerf yet han still has crazy damage

    If you see han throwing his definite then dodge immediately behind cover. Make sure you know when it’s in cooldown and you’ll be fine. Agree with passionate strike needing a buff though.

    Exactly - just pay attention to what your opponent is doing; you can’t expect to just win by spamming sabers...
  • Han doesn't need a nerf, every other blaster hero needs a rework / buff (except for Finn). They're all designed terribly; Leia has useless abilities, Lando's damage output at a range needs a buff, Bossk has infinite regen which encourages awful gameplay, Boba needs a jetpack nerf & buff to everything else, Iden's sniper needs a buff ETC ETC ETC.

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  • Han doesn't need a nerf, every other blaster hero needs a rework / buff (except for Finn). They're all designed terribly; Leia has useless abilities, Lando's damage output at a range needs a buff, Bossk has infinite regen which encourages awful gameplay, Boba needs a jetpack nerf & buff to everything else, Iden's sniper needs a buff ETC ETC ETC.

    Boba does not need a RB buff. Its the single highest damage ability in the game.
  • Axone
    408 posts Member
    Han not Overpower. Vader eat Han Solo for breakfast.
  • Boba needs a jetpack nerf & buff to everything else, Iden's sniper needs a buff ETC ETC ETC.
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  • Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?
  • lerodemmy
    3596 posts Member
    edited August 18
    Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    I agree with your premise, but "the ground"? You mean when he was balanced?
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  • Defbored
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    Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    Pfft. Anakin had the ability to one shot some heroes and bring every hero to near death with one move. When Han can do that, we’ll talk.
  • Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    Pfft. Anakin had the ability to one shot some heroes and bring every hero to near death with one move. When Han can do that, we’ll talk.

    He can, though. It takes more skill than it did with Anakin, but a good Han can basically kill most villains with one detonite followed by headshots.
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  • Defbored
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    lerodemmy wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    Pfft. Anakin had the ability to one shot some heroes and bring every hero to near death with one move. When Han can do that, we’ll talk.

    He can, though. It takes more skill than it did with Anakin, but a good Han can basically kill most villains with one detonite followed by headshots.

    As where anyone using anakin was able to kill four heroes simultaneously.

    Han is no where near the same craziness that anakin was at. A skilled player can do well with Han. Stop trying to punish them.
  • Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    Right. They ruined him in HvV. Went from a strong hero to a "yeah he's okay" pointless pull nerf, pointless strike nerf damage wise, & pointless retribution nerf. Smh can only use that move twice a game should let it charge with heroic might now. The fun part of using a hero with 4 abilities is you could use 4 abilities almost always. Now you pretty much have just 2 in hero modes
  • Han is fine, Vader wrecks him with everybody else, and considering he has some of the lowest health in the roster, can only stagger a blocking hero with SC, and his sharpshooter is pretty useless if the saber user isn’t Grevious, and his lack of good cards means he’s dead once a skilled saber gets close range and he doesn’t have detonite. True glass cannon, in no need to be dumbed down.
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  • Disboy
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    If you’re gonna nerf Han then at least buff the other LS blaster heroes. Only blaster hero I see consistently is Han and for good reason.
  • Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    Right. They ruined him in HvV. Went from a strong hero to a "yeah he's okay" pointless pull nerf, pointless strike nerf damage wise, & pointless retribution nerf. Smh can only use that move twice a game should let it charge with heroic might now. The fun part of using a hero with 4 abilities is you could use 4 abilities almost always. Now you pretty much have just 2 in hero modes

    Still can’t believe people argue Anakin is OP and needs no buffs after how many times you and I have pointed out his most glaring weaknesses which honestly at this point is almost everything.
  • lerodemmy wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    I agree with your premise, but "the ground"? You mean when he was balanced?

    Nerfed into the ground & can't be balanced with a useless move. He went from being able to fight vader in a 1v1 to being another hero who gets sent into the spawn screen no matter how good you are

    That’s a stretch
  • lerodemmy wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    I agree with your premise, but "the ground"? You mean when he was balanced?

    Nerfed into the ground & can't be balanced with a useless move. He went from being able to fight vader in a 1v1 to being another hero who gets sent into the spawn screen no matter how good you are

    That’s a stretch

    Except it’s not. You take an evenly skilled Vader and Anakin, Vader wins no question. It used to be a toss up, now it’s steamroll. Aside from OP Yoda, nobody can beat Vader in an even match. Anakins used to go blow for blow with him and now I’d much rather use Obi-Wan against Vader than Anakin. He needs some sort of buff.
  • No Han is a perfect blaster hero. If anything, he needs a movement speed buff imo
  • Han is one of the few well designed heroes in this game. A good character who becomes great with skill and doesn’t require a stun to be effective. Leave him as he is.
  • lerodemmy wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    I agree with your premise, but "the ground"? You mean when he was balanced?

    Nerfed into the ground & can't be balanced with a useless move. He went from being able to fight vader in a 1v1 to being another hero who gets sent into the spawn screen no matter how good you are

    That’s a stretch

    Except it’s not. You take an evenly skilled Vader and Anakin, Vader wins no question. It used to be a toss up, now it’s steamroll. Aside from OP Yoda, nobody can beat Vader in an even match. Anakins used to go blow for blow with him and now I’d much rather use Obi-Wan against Vader than Anakin. He needs some sort of buff.

    “No question” and steamroll is still a stretch for me. Anakin is far from awful in a 1v1
  • MC_XIX
    1914 posts Member
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    He's a true glass cannon. Not overpowered, just very dangerous when ignored or not killed quickly.

    Kylo Ren & Vader can absolutely destroy him without losing any permanent health. He doesn't need a nerf, though I will say that he is the easiest hero to use & get top score with in HvV because his damage output is insane.

    Han’s son stands no chance against his Father. Literally just throw the Perfectly Balanced Detonite to ragdoll him, activate Sharpshooter to drain his stamina, then finish him off with a Shoulder Charge. Simple. If Kylo can kill you without losing any permanent health maybe you need to git gud

    Lol, get a load of this guy.

    Never said I have trouble vs Kylo with Han. I simply stated that anyone, myself included, can beat Han without taking heavy damage when using Kylo. You specified a perfect scenario for Han, but you forget it can go completely in Kylo's favour as well. If Han gets pulled to Kylo's feet, Kylo gets 2 free strikes with Frenzy or with his basic attack. Then bait the roll and Freeze Han, attack his back and he's 100% dead.

    Also, Sharpshooter doesn't drain Kylo's stamina anywhere near as quickly as you're claiming. Kylo can block all of it and have about 8 swings left in him, plus Frenzy.

    Wrong again, you’re clearly not a very skilled player. Probably why you’re always rejecting @lerodemmy requests to play a game of HvV.

    Back to the matter at hand. If Kylo or any other Saber gets close to me and attempts to swing, I’m just going to Shoulder Charge them from close range to;

    i) Break their block
    ii) Send them flying
    iii) Deal 150 damage

    Han is ridiculous. The amount of advantages he has compared to other Blasters is just incredible. Although, it’s no surprise people on here are defending him, these are the same people who think Bossk is Balanced and that Boba’s instant air recovery is absolutely fine!

    So you're one of those elitists who resort to insulting 'skill' when proven wrong? Thought so.

    Look at the reactions to your opening post. 90% of people reading this topic disagree with you. So, by your own admission, you're "clearly not a skilled player." because you're wrong.

    If you think Kylo can never beat Han, you've never played against a good Kylo Ren player. The battle can go either way. And to use your logic against you, you need to git gud if you can't beat Han when using Mr Ren.
  • CC_1010
    1801 posts Member
    edited August 18
    lerodemmy wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Ugh. Can we stop trying to make fun characters to use not fun?

    Where was this mentality when Anakin was nerfed into the ground?

    I agree with your premise, but "the ground"? You mean when he was balanced?

    Nerfed into the ground & can't be balanced with a useless move. He went from being able to fight vader in a 1v1 to being another hero who gets sent into the spawn screen no matter how good you are

    That’s a stretch

    Not really. Anakin has to open up to fight Vader and Vader will eventually capitalise on this using his choke throw combo destroying any health advantage you may had.
    I much prefer Obi Wan for going up against Vader as he can cancel his abilities(if it works).
    With Luke my experience is that for the damage you deal you will take more or a bit less damage in return for the opening you provided during your attack. And if you manage to get “free” damage in he can just regenerate the health back.
  • Han is one of the few well designed heroes in this game. A good character who becomes great with skill and doesn’t require a stun to be effective. Leave him as he is.

    Detonite is as good and sometimes is better than a stun.
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  • The general consensus here is that he is a glass cannon so everything is justified.
    But what happens when the "glass cannon" gets 910 hp (more than any hero except Vader) or 770 hp + 50 % damage reduction + no blaster heat build up + The "not a stun" Detonite every 6 seconds + "Not also a stun" Shoulder Charge every 5 seconds ?
  • Han isn't op at all. He gets dropped by anything , can't even run with his sharpshooter. Han is always a free kill when I play HvV ,no matter how good the Han is. One Vader choke a barrage and he's dead.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    He's a true glass cannon. Not overpowered, just very dangerous when ignored or not killed quickly.

    Kylo Ren & Vader can absolutely destroy him without losing any permanent health. He doesn't need a nerf, though I will say that he is the easiest hero to use & get top score with in HvV because his damage output is insane.

    Han’s son stands no chance against his Father. Literally just throw the Perfectly Balanced Detonite to ragdoll him, activate Sharpshooter to drain his stamina, then finish him off with a Shoulder Charge. Simple. If Kylo can kill you without losing any permanent health maybe you need to git gud

    Lol, get a load of this guy.

    Never said I have trouble vs Kylo with Han. I simply stated that anyone, myself included, can beat Han without taking heavy damage when using Kylo. You specified a perfect scenario for Han, but you forget it can go completely in Kylo's favour as well. If Han gets pulled to Kylo's feet, Kylo gets 2 free strikes with Frenzy or with his basic attack. Then bait the roll and Freeze Han, attack his back and he's 100% dead.

    Also, Sharpshooter doesn't drain Kylo's stamina anywhere near as quickly as you're claiming. Kylo can block all of it and have about 8 swings left in him, plus Frenzy.

    I agree with this. If there's a 1v1 I find myself as Kylo vs Han (as I never play Han), it's an extremely precarious one. It can go either way. Kylo is incredibly good against blaster heroes, and Han has an incredible damage output. If you aren't careful enough with any of the two, you'll be finished quickly by the other one.

    I understand the feeling that Han is too strong, but he's also too weak. The true glass cannon of SWBFII2017. The amount of times I got destroyed by a good Han gameplay is also closely followed by the amount of times I pawned a good Han with a saber user. But if Han has a good team to support him, then it becomes really hard to get a revenge kill. However that's not an issue with Han, but rather an issue with how some team combos are incredibly better compared to others, and how team balance plays a much bigger role then anything else in this game when it comes to a fair match

    This is very well said. I feel the same about every other sith saber vs Han with the exception of Vader. He's the only one where as Han I'm near certain I will not survive a 1v1 and as Vader I am confident. But that's OK, I know to be weary of Vader and keep my distance it teammates between us.
  • AccurateThings
    526 posts Member
    edited August 18
    He isn’t OP, his pistol has a high damage but it overheats fast, his sharpshooter ability lasts short, his shoulder charge can be dodged. His health and health regeneration is poor like any other blaster hero.
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