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  • Instant Action is the only thing that can save this game once the server shut down or are dead.

    Splitscreen should’ve be added to be one of the mode’s main features.
  • Instant Action is the only thing that can save this game once the server shut down or are dead.

    Splitscreen should’ve be added to be one of the mode’s main features.

    Once the severs shut down is the key word here I guess. They recently said that split screen for this mode is currently not in the works and therefore likely not on their priority list. I guess this will get ranked higher once the game nears its end
    Wanna read how Starfighters could be introduced to CS in a fair manner? Read-up on it here: https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/153390/how-to-properly-introduce-starfighters-to-cs#latest

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  • Instant Action is the only thing that can save this game once the server shut down or are dead.

    Splitscreen should’ve be added to be one of the mode’s main features.

    Once the severs shut down is the key word here I guess. They recently said that split screen for this mode is currently not in the works and therefore likely not on their priority list. I guess this will get ranked higher once the game nears its end

    Where did they say this? Are any new modes with hero AI and split screen in the works? How about hero AI for Arcade? The game needs a mode with hero AI and split screen.
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • Instant Action is the only thing that can save this game once the server shut down or are dead.

    Splitscreen should’ve be added to be one of the mode’s main features.

    Agreed.
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • Instant Action is the only thing that can save this game once the server shut down or are dead.

    Splitscreen should’ve be added to be one of the mode’s main features.

    Agreed.

    Honestly. That’s why I was so excite when I first heard about offline. Without splitscreen or some real mutators, there’s no point.
  • Starmasui73146
    1794 posts Member
    edited January 28
    The game needs a mode with hero AI and split screen.
    I take it obviously you mean other than "Arcade: Team Battle" couch, split-screen, multiplayer which we have already? But you did add Hero A.I. so yeah
    that needs to be added to it.

    Personally a secondary compromise would be "Cargo" against bots (with a split screen option), even if it's just the Arcade programmed bots and not advanced A.I... 3rd choice would be Heroes vs Villains against bots with spit-screen option. Of course the ultimate would be "Instant Action" with split-screen as an option but at this point I'll take what I can get.
    “There is always hope.”
  • The game needs a mode with hero AI and split screen.
    I take it obviously you mean other than "Arcade: Team Battle" couch, split-screen, multiplayer which we have already? But you did add Hero A.I. so yeah
    that needs to be added to it.

    Personally a secondary compromise would be "Cargo" against bots (with a split screen option), even if it's just the Arcade programmed bots and not advanced A.I... 3rd choice would be Heroes vs Villains against bots with spit-screen option. Of course the ultimate would be "Instant Action" with split-screen as an option but at this point I'll take what I can get.

    Arcade has split screen but no hero AI; Instant Action doesn't have split screen but has hero AI. I would love a mode that has both together. I would be happy if it was Arcade, HvV, or another mode. An objective mode (like Cargo) in split screen would be awesome too. If they added a heroes option to cargo that would be even better. IA in split screen would incorporate everything in one mode so it would be the best.
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • Starmasui73146
    1794 posts Member
    edited January 29
    This game COD: BLack Ops 2 came out in 2012 and sported 6 vs 6 Offline "Capture the Flag." It is surprisingly visually amazing.

    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Yemen" map, on easy recruit A.I. (1 human + 5 bots vs 6 bots) = surprisingly fun and decent


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Aircraft Carrier" map,
    on medium A.I. (1 human + 5 bots vs 6 bots) = decent


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Aircraft Carrier" map, on easy recruit A.I. (1 human + 1 bot vs 6 bots) = decent


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Aircraft Carrier" map, on Elite A.I. (1 human vs 6 bots) = impossible


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Nuketown" map, on medium A.I. (1 human + 5 bots vs 6 bots) = decent


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline, defending the flag against bots on recruit = fun



    So it is totally possible to do it if DICE has the time.
    “There is always hope.”
  • This game COD: BLack Ops 2 came out in 2012 and sported 6 vs 6 Offline "Capture the Flag." It is surprisingly visually amazing.

    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Yemen" map, on easy recruit A.I. (1 human + 5 bots vs 6 bots) = surprisingly fun and decent


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Aircraft Carrier" map,
    on medium A.I. (1 human + 5 bots vs 6 bots) = decent


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Aircraft Carrier" map, on easy recruit A.I. (1 human + 1 bot vs 6 bots) = decent


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Aircraft Carrier" map, on Elite A.I. (1 human vs 6 bots) = impossible


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline on "Nuketown" map, on medium A.I. (1 human + 5 bots vs 6 bots) = decent


    Black Ops 2 "Capture the Flag" verses A.l. Offline, defending the flag against bots on recruit = fun



    So it is totally possible to do it if DICE has the time.

    Hopefully, they are already working on it.
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • @F8RGE Is there any update on any split screen content being worked on?
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • @F8RGE Is there any update on any split screen content being worked on?

    neither planned right now nor in the works
    Wanna read how Starfighters could be introduced to CS in a fair manner? Read-up on it here: https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/153390/how-to-properly-introduce-starfighters-to-cs#latest

    Want to support Starfighter content in general? Help us here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/evnc78/starfighters_reborn/
  • @F8RGE Is there any update on any split screen content being worked on?

    neither planned right now nor in the works

    Have the devs said this? Where?
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • hosco33
    449 posts Member
    edited January 31
    Lonnisity wrote: »
    Splitscreen instant action would be unplayable laggy. That’s the short answer.

    The long answer is you wouldn’t enjoy it as much as you think you would. This game is built for visual fidelity. Like F8RGE said, they’ve maximized the hardware to get the most performance out of one screen. Split that into two, and it will literally be half as smooth.

    There is already split screen in arcade. The issue is AI's logic as far as I understand, not the rendering of the maps. A quick test would be having half smart AIs and half stupid AIs (the ones used in arcade) and see how that works. Another thing could be having reduced command posts, maybe Co-op maps would work better cause they are less targets the AI must care about at a time.

    Something tells me they'll make it, they've addressed complex tasks before, things they themselves thought unlikely, like challenging AI heroes and reinforcements, CS and Coop infantry AI itself. As a software developer there are two things I love:

    1. Challenges
    2. Not working under pressure
  • Starmasui73146
    1794 posts Member
    edited January 31
    hosco33 wrote: »
    Lonnisity wrote: »
    Splitscreen instant action would be unplayable laggy. That’s the short answer.

    The long answer is you wouldn’t enjoy it as much as you think you would. This game is built for visual fidelity. Like F8RGE said, they’ve maximized the hardware to get the most performance out of one screen. Split that into two, and it will literally be half as smooth.

    There is already split screen in arcade. The issue is AI's logic as far as I understand, not the rendering of the maps. A quick test would be having half smart AIs and half stupid AIs (the ones used in arcade) and see how that works. Another thing could be having reduced command posts, maybe Co-op maps would work better cause they are less targets the AI must care about at a time.

    Something tells me they'll make it, they've addressed complex tasks before, things they themselves thought unlikely, like challenging AI heroes and reinforcements, CS and Coop infantry AI itself. As a software developer there are two things I love:

    1. Challenges
    2. Not working under pressure

    Now there's a clever idea...render half the A.I. Arcade and half learning smart A.I...not bad. This would chop the memory required in half. Brilliant.

    How about this. Use the Arcade A.I. for defending CPs only and use the smart A.I. for capturing CPs. How about them apples? Not bad ah? It might not give us split screen but at least it would double the enemies and friendlies in "Instant Action"... This is simply brilliant.
    😎👍🏼

    Lovin' the Co-Op idea. I loooooooooooooooove Co-Op to pieces so any way to make this work Offline I am totally for it.

    P.S.- What kind of software do you develop?
    “There is always hope.”
  • @F8RGE Is there any update on any split screen content being worked on?

    neither planned right now nor in the works

    Have the devs said this? Where?

    It was either in ofe of the threads here or over on discord
    Wanna read how Starfighters could be introduced to CS in a fair manner? Read-up on it here: https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/153390/how-to-properly-introduce-starfighters-to-cs#latest

    Want to support Starfighter content in general? Help us here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/evnc78/starfighters_reborn/
  • ELIMELECH0401
    1463 posts Member
    edited January 31
    @F8RGE Is there any update on any split screen content being worked on?

    neither planned right now nor in the works

    Have the devs said this? Where?

    It was either in ofe of the threads here or over on discord

    Does that just apply to Instant Action? Was it from a dev? What about Arcade hero AI or other modes with split screen?
    Post edited by ELIMELECH0401 on
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • hosco33 wrote: »
    Lonnisity wrote: »
    Splitscreen instant action would be unplayable laggy. That’s the short answer.

    The long answer is you wouldn’t enjoy it as much as you think you would. This game is built for visual fidelity. Like F8RGE said, they’ve maximized the hardware to get the most performance out of one screen. Split that into two, and it will literally be half as smooth.

    There is already split screen in arcade. The issue is AI's logic as far as I understand, not the rendering of the maps. A quick test would be having half smart AIs and half stupid AIs (the ones used in arcade) and see how that works. Another thing could be having reduced command posts, maybe Co-op maps would work better cause they are less targets the AI must care about at a time.

    Something tells me they'll make it, they've addressed complex tasks before, things they themselves thought unlikely, like challenging AI heroes and reinforcements, CS and Coop infantry AI itself. As a software developer there are two things I love:

    1. Challenges
    2. Not working under pressure

    I would take Arcade AI for all the troopers in order to have split screen. I think we will get more split screen content. We might even get Instant Action in split screen.
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • If we don't get split screen for Instant Action; hopefully, they will make a mode built around split screen.
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • HvV would be my first choice for an offline split screen mode.
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • HvV would be my first choice for an offline split screen mode.

    you can already do a 1v1 in arcade. hvv style.
  • HvV would be my first choice for an offline split screen mode.

    you can already do a 1v1 in arcade. hvv style.

    Yeah Duel mode, true. A HvV (4 vs 4) Offline is quite feasible and would be cool though.

    “There is always hope.”
  • HvV would be my first choice for an offline split screen mode.

    you can already do a 1v1 in arcade. hvv style.

    Yeah Duel mode, true. A HvV (4 vs 4) Offline is quite feasible and would be cool though.

    There is Duel mode; however, I would love to play split screen co-op as heroes against Villain AI or vice versa. This has been my wishes for the game since I started posting in these topics. Hopefully, it will happen.
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
  • I would love instant action and custom arcade playable online for coop or vs as "private matches".
  • May we have more split screen offline content to play with IRL friends, especially when the servers go down (like they are now)
    I am the same user as Elimelech401, that account was not tied to the game. I am hoping for more Skirmish with split screen and hero AI.
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