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  • Despite Anakin not being in any leaks do you still think he'll be in TROS?
  • Despite Anakin not being in any leaks do you still think he'll be in TROS?

    He has to
  • DarthJ wrote: »
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kef_Bir Unfortunately the Death Star debris didn’t land on Endor, it landed on a new planet. On the bright side at least there is no chance of seeing any Ewoks
    so it just magically ignored the gravitational pull of Endor, considering it was right next to it?!

    I thought that was the first death star crash, not the second, which would make more sense, cause the death star wasn't that close too yavin 4, it could've crashed on that big green and blue planet, that is in front of yavin 4.
    Ahsoka for Battlefront 2. Kanan Jarrus for Battlefront 2.
    rcar0gljuaad.png
    Kanan is more of your cool kinda Jedi... not so weird/wise as most of the Jedi were like on the council. Kanan also owned a cantina at some point before he met Hera.
  • Grievous15 wrote: »
    DarthJ wrote: »
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kef_Bir Unfortunately the Death Star debris didn’t land on Endor, it landed on a new planet. On the bright side at least there is no chance of seeing any Ewoks
    so it just magically ignored the gravitational pull of Endor, considering it was right next to it?!

    I thought that was the first death star crash, not the second, which would make more sense, cause the death star wasn't that close too yavin 4, it could've crashed on that big green and blue planet, that is in front of yavin 4.

    The new trailer did show the emperor’s throne room in the debris
  • DarthJ
    7079 posts Member
    Grievous15 wrote: »
    DarthJ wrote: »
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kef_Bir Unfortunately the Death Star debris didn’t land on Endor, it landed on a new planet. On the bright side at least there is no chance of seeing any Ewoks
    so it just magically ignored the gravitational pull of Endor, considering it was right next to it?!

    I thought that was the first death star crash, not the second, which would make more sense, cause the death star wasn't that close too yavin 4, it could've crashed on that big green and blue planet, that is in front of yavin 4.

    The new trailer did show the emperor’s throne room in the debris

    There was a throne room on the first Death Star, but the Emperor never used it. Preferred to stay on Coruscant in the Imperial Palace. Its in one of the cut away books showing the Death Star.
  • DarthJ
    7079 posts Member
    Grievous15 wrote: »
    DarthJ wrote: »
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kef_Bir Unfortunately the Death Star debris didn’t land on Endor, it landed on a new planet. On the bright side at least there is no chance of seeing any Ewoks
    so it just magically ignored the gravitational pull of Endor, considering it was right next to it?!

    I thought that was the first death star crash, not the second, which would make more sense, cause the death star wasn't that close too yavin 4, it could've crashed on that big green and blue planet, that is in front of yavin 4.

    That big planet is Yavin itself I think you mean? Which is a gas giant, so it couldnt have. Unless its one of Yavin's other moons
  • Grievous15 wrote: »
    DarthJ wrote: »
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kef_Bir Unfortunately the Death Star debris didn’t land on Endor, it landed on a new planet. On the bright side at least there is no chance of seeing any Ewoks
    so it just magically ignored the gravitational pull of Endor, considering it was right next to it?!

    I thought that was the first death star crash, not the second, which would make more sense, cause the death star wasn't that close too yavin 4, it could've crashed on that big green and blue planet, that is in front of yavin 4.

    The new trailer did show the emperor’s throne room in the debris

    Yeah, it did. Inside the crashed death star, not outside.
    Ahsoka for Battlefront 2. Kanan Jarrus for Battlefront 2.
    rcar0gljuaad.png
    Kanan is more of your cool kinda Jedi... not so weird/wise as most of the Jedi were like on the council. Kanan also owned a cantina at some point before he met Hera.
  • DarthJ wrote: »
    Grievous15 wrote: »
    DarthJ wrote: »
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kef_Bir Unfortunately the Death Star debris didn’t land on Endor, it landed on a new planet. On the bright side at least there is no chance of seeing any Ewoks
    so it just magically ignored the gravitational pull of Endor, considering it was right next to it?!

    I thought that was the first death star crash, not the second, which would make more sense, cause the death star wasn't that close too yavin 4, it could've crashed on that big green and blue planet, that is in front of yavin 4.

    That big planet is Yavin itself I think you mean? Which is a gas giant, so it couldnt have. Unless its one of Yavin's other moons

    Yeah, yavin 4 i think is the small red planet, and the green one is either a moon, or just another nearby planet.
    Ahsoka for Battlefront 2. Kanan Jarrus for Battlefront 2.
    rcar0gljuaad.png
    Kanan is more of your cool kinda Jedi... not so weird/wise as most of the Jedi were like on the council. Kanan also owned a cantina at some point before he met Hera.
  • Grievous15 wrote: »
    DarthJ wrote: »
    Grievous15 wrote: »
    DarthJ wrote: »
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kef_Bir Unfortunately the Death Star debris didn’t land on Endor, it landed on a new planet. On the bright side at least there is no chance of seeing any Ewoks
    so it just magically ignored the gravitational pull of Endor, considering it was right next to it?!

    I thought that was the first death star crash, not the second, which would make more sense, cause the death star wasn't that close too yavin 4, it could've crashed on that big green and blue planet, that is in front of yavin 4.

    That big planet is Yavin itself I think you mean? Which is a gas giant, so it couldnt have. Unless its one of Yavin's other moons

    Yeah, yavin 4 i think is the small red planet, and the green one is either a moon, or just another nearby planet.


    Or, at least i think it is. Wait, maybe the big green and blue planet is yavin 4, in which that could be yavin 4 that the death star crashed at.
    Ahsoka for Battlefront 2. Kanan Jarrus for Battlefront 2.
    rcar0gljuaad.png
    Kanan is more of your cool kinda Jedi... not so weird/wise as most of the Jedi were like on the council. Kanan also owned a cantina at some point before he met Hera.
  • Ummmmm I do not know if this is accurate but there are reports that Kathleen Kennedy had George Lucas's scenes that he wrote and directed with JJ Abrams written out of the film and reshot. Again not sure if this is true, take it as a grain of salt.

    Warning possible spoilers ahead. For the record you know the important parts about the rumor. Only read on if you don't care if you know more of the possible parts of the story.

    If this is true it makes me very upset. George Lucas is the creator of Star Wars the level of disrespect this would bring to him is incalculable.
    “There is always hope.”
  • Ppong_Man12
    3035 posts Member
    edited November 2019
    Spoiler, don’t click if your don’t want to know.

  • Ppong_Man12
    3035 posts Member
    edited November 2019
    Ummmmm I do not know if this is accurate but there are reports that Kathleen Kennedy had George Lucas's scenes that he wrote and directed with JJ Abrams written out of the film and reshot. Again not sure if this is true, take it as a grain of salt.

    Warning possible spoilers ahead. For the record you know the important parts about the rumor. Only read on if you don't care if you know more of the possible parts of the story.

    If this is true it makes me very upset. George Lucas is the creator of Star Wars the level of disrespect this would bring to him is incalculable.

    IMHO, hacks are running the show now. There’s so many rumors with the problems with this film and many from good sources, it’s sad. The fact they brought Palpatine back, (nostalgia to sell tickets), says it all imo.
  • DarthJ
    7079 posts Member
    I am worried for this film. The instability around it is concerning. As is Kennedy's jibe about not having source material to work from :joy:

    Yeah, because George Lucas had tons of novels to go off back when he did ANH. I wonder if she knows what imagination is or means

  • They fly now!

  • They fly now!

    What an awful clip.
    Flying Troopers is nothing new, Clones had Jetpacks, CIS had Jetpack, Imperials had Jetpacks, Rebels had Jetpacks, Mandalorians had Jetpacks, but “They fly now?”
    Finn is an Ex-First Order Stormtrooper, there is no way he would not know that FO Jet Troopers exist and Poe has fought Jetpacking FO boys in the comics, so he also knows they exist.
    WHY ARE THEY SO SURPRISED!?!?!?
  • lowell
    2174 posts Member
    edited November 2019
    No force ghosts confirmed in the last act of the film but disembodied voices of living and dead characters:

    Those appearing to Rey:

    1. Anakin Skywalker (Voiced by Hayden, not Matt, Hayden would likely match Matt's tone, at this point anyway)

    2. Luke Skywalker

    3. Leia Organa

    4. Yoda

    5. Obi-Wan Kenobi

    6. Ahsoka Tano

    7. Ezra Bridger

    8. Maz Kanata

    The last 3 have had some association with the original 5 and have demonstrated some efforts to
    maintaining the Jedi legacy post-ROTS so it makes sense they are the other Force-sensitives that would
    appear as voices similar to what happened with the voices of the Mortis gods, Chirrut, Jyn, Poe, Rey, and
    Kylo in the World Between Worlds in Rebels last year.

    With Kylo Ren: Some form of Han will appearing to him before he returns to the light to fight the undead
    Sheev, who is revealed to be Rey's Grandfather.


    The voices of Qui-Gon Jinn, Mace Windu, and Kanan Jarrus appearing are unconfirmed for now.


    https://makingstarwars.net/2019/11/is-anakin-skywalker-in-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-any-other-jedi/
  • lowell
    2174 posts Member
    Another legacy character returns along with their tribe:

    pls9fcr1jj141.jpg

    And we also return to Ahch-to so more porgs?

    t6hxf2ohng141.png

    ROTJ = Ewoks, TLJ= Porgs

    Ewoks + Porgs = ROTJ + TLJ = TROS?
  • lowell wrote: »
    Another legacy character returns along with their tribe:

    pls9fcr1jj141.jpg

    And we also return to Ahch-to so more porgs?

    t6hxf2ohng141.png

    ROTJ = Ewoks, TLJ= Porgs

    Ewoks + Porgs = ROTJ + TLJ = TROS?
    Is the Ewoks appearing a leak or confirmed? I wonder how that TIE ship ended on Ach- To
  • lowell
    2174 posts Member
    lowell wrote: »
    Another legacy character returns along with their tribe:

    pls9fcr1jj141.jpg

    And we also return to Ahch-to so more porgs?

    t6hxf2ohng141.png

    ROTJ = Ewoks, TLJ= Porgs

    Ewoks + Porgs = ROTJ + TLJ = TROS?
    Is the Ewoks appearing a leak or confirmed? I wonder how that TIE ship ended on Ach- To
  • Starmasui73146
    1798 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    Ummmmm I do not know if this is accurate but there are reports that Kathleen Kennedy had George Lucas's scenes that he wrote and directed with JJ Abrams written out of the film and reshot. Again not sure if this is true, take it as a grain of salt.

    Warning possible spoilers ahead. For the record you know the important parts about the rumor. Only read on if you don't care if you know more of the possible parts of the story.

    If this is true it makes me very upset. George Lucas is the creator of Star Wars the level of disrespect this would bring to him is incalculable.

    IMHO, hacks are running the show now. There’s so many rumors with the problems with this film and many from good sources, it’s sad. The fact they brought Palpatine back, (nostalgia to sell tickets), says it all imo.

    Well actually the emperor was never supposed to be introduced in "Return of the Jedi", the original 9 movie script by George Lucas didn't have him show up till episode 9. George sped time up because he never thought he'd make 7, 8 and 9 but fully intended to do 1, 2 and 3. So it was meant to close out the story and then he retired. The super deathstar from "The Force Awakens" was in George's episode 9 script and like the movie it could hit multiple planets at once.

    All that got axed by George and he condensed it (likely due to budget reasons and lack of technology at the time) speeding up the story, concluding it in episode 6.

    Even episode 6 had several reworkings. At one point the force ghost Yoda and Obi Wan helped stop the Emperor and Luke dies.

    Any way so you see if your upset at the return of the Emperor then your really upset at what George intended all a long. Though episode 6 "Return of the Jedi" would have been radically different.

    What would have been.
    Episode 7 was supposed to be about Master Luke training Princess Leia and the younglings at the Jedi academy. There are no Sith around but there are dark side users. It would have delved into details about the whiles and midiclorians.

    Episode 8 the younglings are growing up and becoming their own heroes now, fighting new enemies and Leia is a full fledged Jedi. There are no Sith around but there are dark side users.

    Episode 9 The Sith's dramatic return, would see finally the orchestrator of all this evil the Emperor and his super deathstar capable of destroying several worlds at once and his mega fleet. Leia and Luke would take on the Emperor along with force ghost Obi Wan and Yoda. But Luke sacrifices himself in the epic battle.

    So that was George's core story from like waaaaaaaay back. Though back then Luke Skywalker was called Starkiller. Having the super deathstar named that in Abrams film was a homage, there was also a video game character of the same name (also a homage) in "The Force Unleashed."
    “There is always hope.”
  • I wonder if there will be any battles or fights on Ajan Kloss, after all it is the location of the resistance base and the first order would definitely want to destroy their base and cripple the resistance. I highly doubt it though since none of the promotional material for the film hints at a battle on Ajan Kloss. I’m only asking this because the new CT pretty much says that both resistance and first order will be battling on the planet(is this why the planet is unplayable until December 20th). I also wonder if BB-9E is in the film
  • lowell
    2174 posts Member
    I wonder if there will be any battles or fights on Ajan Kloss, after all it is the location of the resistance base and the first order would definitely want to destroy their base and cripple the resistance. I highly doubt it though since none of the promotional material for the film hints at a battle on Ajan Kloss. I’m only asking this because the new CT pretty much says that both resistance and first order will be battling on the planet(is this why the planet is unplayable until December 20th). I also wonder if BB-9E is in the film

    I'd rather have a Batuu map or Kef Bir instead of Ajan Kloss.
  • lowell
    2174 posts Member
    Lando's full name revealed on his cane:
    "Baron Landonis Balthazar Calrissian III"

  • lowell wrote: »
    Lando's full name revealed on his cane:
    "Baron Landonis Balthazar Calrissian III"


    lol
  • All I gotta say is Im expecting this movie to be a hot mess if all the backroom talk and stories from behind the scenes are true. Like this will be the equivalent of a Star Wars Marvel Movie, just action porn with nothing really interesting to say. I know its old new, but i still laugh when I think of Kennedy and Abrams say they planned for Palpatine to come back the entire time. yeah ok, which is why there was NOTHING AT ALL hinted at about him in the prior two films.

    Well actually the emperor was never supposed to be introduced in "Return of the Jedi", the original 9 movie script by George Lucas didn't have him show up till episode 9. George sped time up because he never thought he'd make 7, 8 and 9 but fully intended to do 1, 2 and 3. So it was meant to close out the story and then he retired.


    Hold up a second. All that stuff about George having written episode 1-9 decades before is ****, you know that right? I mean there is footage of him saying in the early 2000's he finished the script for either attack of the clones or revenge of the sith and showed it to the people he was making the movie with and they cheered and took copies. He had a basic premise but the details were not in any way planned. Like, he had no idea in 1985 what the clone wars were going to be or how Vader betrayed the Jedi. That stuff was all made in the late 90's and early 2000's.
  • lowell
    2174 posts Member
    I think Burger King Germany spilled the beans:


    If you can translate it for us, post the translation under the spoiler tag.
  • Any way so you see if your upset at the return of the Emperor then your really upset at what George intended all a long. Though episode 6 "Return of the Jedi" would have been radically different.

    what people are annoyed with is that the sequel "trilogy" had no real plan, no proper build-up of anything, no narrative or dramatic cohesion, no well-drawn characters, so bringing back Palpatine looks like a desperate attempt to tie these movies back to something that was properly developed and built up

    most of all it has had no purpose, no essential story to tell, it only exists to fill Disney coffers and sell merchandise (which it isn't doing very well)...from the planning onward it was a Disney project, not a Star Wars project, and for all the fan service and kitsch it has all the soul of a corporate strategy document, and it really shows in the final product

    this does a disservice to all the actors, crew, and other artists who tried to put the best face they could on a product of corporate greed, although some of these people should seek out another line of work judging by their efforts
  • Any way so you see if your upset at the return of the Emperor then your really upset at what George intended all a long. Though episode 6 "Return of the Jedi" would have been radically different.

    what people are annoyed with is that the sequel "trilogy" had no real plan, no proper build-up of anything, no narrative or dramatic cohesion, no well-drawn characters, so bringing back Palpatine looks like a desperate attempt to tie these movies back to something that was properly developed and built up

    most of all it has had no purpose, no essential story to tell, it only exists to fill Disney coffers and sell merchandise (which it isn't doing very well)...from the planning onward it was a Disney project, not a Star Wars project, and for all the fan service and kitsch it has all the soul of a corporate strategy document, and it really shows in the final product

    this does a disservice to all the actors, crew, and other artists who tried to put the best face they could on a product of corporate greed, although some of these people should seek out another line of work judging by their efforts

    Actually Palpatine's return was the intention all along. It was George Lucas that said that was his exact plan.
    Ahsoka for Battlefront 2. Kanan Jarrus for Battlefront 2.
    rcar0gljuaad.png
    Kanan is more of your cool kinda Jedi... not so weird/wise as most of the Jedi were like on the council. Kanan also owned a cantina at some point before he met Hera.
  • ExtractionFan69
    739 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    Grievous15 wrote: »
    Any way so you see if your upset at the return of the Emperor then your really upset at what George intended all a long. Though episode 6 "Return of the Jedi" would have been radically different.

    what people are annoyed with is that the sequel "trilogy" had no real plan, no proper build-up of anything, no narrative or dramatic cohesion, no well-drawn characters, so bringing back Palpatine looks like a desperate attempt to tie these movies back to something that was properly developed and built up

    most of all it has had no purpose, no essential story to tell, it only exists to fill Disney coffers and sell merchandise (which it isn't doing very well)...from the planning onward it was a Disney project, not a Star Wars project, and for all the fan service and kitsch it has all the soul of a corporate strategy document, and it really shows in the final product

    this does a disservice to all the actors, crew, and other artists who tried to put the best face they could on a product of corporate greed, although some of these people should seek out another line of work judging by their efforts

    Actually Palpatine's return was the intention all along. It was George Lucas that said that was his exact plan.

    yes I know, my point is that he wasn't giving input into the first two movies (as Lucas himself has frequently complained), so the return of Palpatine in the third is abrupt and lacks necessary build-up...it's a callback to the original trilogy precisely because the reaction to the first two movies has dampened the mood...this isn't good story crafting, it's corporate panic

    as for "this was intended all along", might I suggest consuming Disney's claims about this with slightly less gullibility

    it's really not clear how involved Lucas was in this movie--rumors vary wildly and Disney has a PR motivation to use his name to salvage a very damaged brand--so we'll see what comes of this
  • Grievous15 wrote: »
    Actually Palpatine's return was the intention all along. It was George Lucas that said that was his exact plan.

    yes well Lucas has tended to be all over the map on prequel and sequel intentions, and Lucas was pointedly ignored for the first two movies in this trilogy, so it still leaves the problem of Palpatine's sudden return, with no dramatic foreshadowing, looking like a panic move more than anything

    hope it works out for them, I'll enjoy the experience whether the movie is good, bad, or hilarious
  • DarthJ
    7079 posts Member
    Grievous15 wrote: »
    Actually Palpatine's return was the intention all along. It was George Lucas that said that was his exact plan.

    yes well Lucas has tended to be all over the map on prequel and sequel intentions, and Lucas was pointedly ignored for the first two movies in this trilogy, so it still leaves the problem of Palpatine's sudden return, with no dramatic foreshadowing, looking like a panic move more than anything

    hope it works out for them, I'll enjoy the experience whether the movie is good, bad, or hilarious

    I think if JJ had of directed all 3 we would have had a better outlook of it all. We would have had a decent VIII - I dont honestly think he would have killed Snoke and Phasma (i.e. half of this trilogies main villains) off in that film, and it would have led to a bigger showdown in IX. Palps has been brought back for nostalgia, trying to bring fans back on board after TLJ,and probably because they had no credible villain left (Kylo already got beat by Rey)
  • DarthJ wrote: »
    Grievous15 wrote: »
    Actually Palpatine's return was the intention all along. It was George Lucas that said that was his exact plan.

    yes well Lucas has tended to be all over the map on prequel and sequel intentions, and Lucas was pointedly ignored for the first two movies in this trilogy, so it still leaves the problem of Palpatine's sudden return, with no dramatic foreshadowing, looking like a panic move more than anything

    hope it works out for them, I'll enjoy the experience whether the movie is good, bad, or hilarious

    I think if JJ had of directed all 3 we would have had a better outlook of it all. We would have had a decent VIII - I dont honestly think he would have killed Snoke and Phasma (i.e. half of this trilogies main villains) off in that film, and it would have led to a bigger showdown in IX. Palps has been brought back for nostalgia, trying to bring fans back on board after TLJ,and probably because they had no credible villain left (Kylo already got beat by Rey)

    although I don't rate JJ very highly, I don't think he had much say even in the first movie...the whole trilogy badly suffers from lack of a central author (or purpose), with Lucasfilm constantly meddling and doing course corrections based on executive-level thinking about the franchise...similar to what happened with the DC properties at Warner
  • Starmasui73146
    1798 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    Well the first non-spoiler reviews are in, if you want to read them yourself here they are.
    https://variety.com/2019/film/news/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-first-reactions-world-premiere-1203444389/
    You be the judge.

    Oooooor if you just want to watch someone else read the reviews to you it starts at 1min 55 sec into the video.
    “There is always hope.”
  • DarthJ
    7079 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    Well the first non-spoiler reviews are in, if you want to read them yourself here they are.
    https://variety.com/2019/film/news/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-first-reactions-world-premiere-1203444389/
    You be the judge.

    Oooooor if you just want to watch someone else read the reviews to you it starts at 1min 55 sec into the video.

    I distrust reviewers for Disney films i.e. the new Star Wars films and Marvel films. They rate them far too high, whereas audience scores always resonate roughly with my thinking. Look at TLJ as an example, critics acted like it was amazing. And they do with EVERY Marvel film, despite some very average ones (looking at you Ant-Man and the Wasp, and Avengers AOU). Might sound like I have my tin foil hat on but I definitely think they receive a nice little bung to make good reviews
  • Critics are saying it’s a GREAT film but they also said that about the last Jedi, so I’m not going to trust the reviews
  • Opening crawls been leaked
  • So um yeah, apparently the film has enough plot holes to fly a star destroyer, has a 56% critic score on rotten tomatoes, and Richard E Grant called it a bad word, had bad reactions, and is ashamed to be in it. Now I’m torn whenever or not I should cancel my ticket order for the 24th
  • Critics are saying it’s a GREAT film but they also said that about the last Jedi, so I’m not going to trust the reviews

    57% isn’t GREAT. But I don’t trust critics
  • So um yeah, apparently the film has enough plot holes to fly a star destroyer, has a 56% critic score on rotten tomatoes, and Richard E Grant called it a bad word, had bad reactions, and is ashamed to be in it. Now I’m torn whenever or not I should cancel my ticket order for the 24th

    Form your own opinion
  • Critics are saying it’s a GREAT film but they also said that about the last Jedi, so I’m not going to trust the reviews

    57% isn’t GREAT. But I don’t trust critics

    I wrote that post before I found out the rotten tomatoes rating


  • TBH i expected more from this track
  • Starmasui73146
    1798 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    Well there is some good news Forbes film reviewer Scott Mendelson said about Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker,
    (1.) "- it absolutely walks back a number of potent reveals and plot threads from the last movie-"
    (2.) "-the 142-minute movie spends almost its entire running time retconning its predecessor"-

    (3.) - "It undermines the previous two “episodes” in the name of giving (some but not all) original-trilogy Star Wars fans a reassuring pat on the head."

    (4.) "Lucasfilm and Disney’s The Rise of Skywalker feels explicitly crafted for the “Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars!” and “George Lucas ruined my childhood!” demographics,-"

    Well I'm that demographic. 😛 This makes me so happy. 🤗 They undid "The Last Jedi". Yee haw!!!


    For his full yuckie review read here. 🙄

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/12/18/review-disney-and-lucasfilms-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-is-a-terrible-end-to-the-skywalker-saga/#21b3afa2113c

    Of course this does not mean the story will be good but at least it undid episode 8.
    Post edited by Starmasui73146 on
    “There is always hope.”
  • So um yeah, apparently the film has enough plot holes to fly a star destroyer, has a 56% critic score on rotten tomatoes, and Richard E Grant called it a bad word, had bad reactions, and is ashamed to be in it. Now I’m torn whenever or not I should cancel my ticket order for the 24th

    what did Richard E Grant say
  • Critics are saying it’s a GREAT film but they also said that about the last Jedi, so I’m not going to trust the reviews

    57% isn’t GREAT. But I don’t trust critics

    Yeah but 56%-57% on Rotten Tomato is an F grade.

    You have to get into the 60% tile to get a D-...


    Well this guy says that all the rumors and leaks were true about the film.



    Man I don't know who to listen to any more.
    “There is always hope.”
  • A trainwreck from start to finish. Makes TLJ looks like a masterpiece. An absolute disgrace. Not even the music is good.

  • Critics are saying it’s a GREAT film but they also said that about the last Jedi, so I’m not going to trust the reviews

    57% isn’t GREAT. But I don’t trust critics

    That's also true.
    Ahsoka for Battlefront 2. Kanan Jarrus for Battlefront 2.
    rcar0gljuaad.png
    Kanan is more of your cool kinda Jedi... not so weird/wise as most of the Jedi were like on the council. Kanan also owned a cantina at some point before he met Hera.
  • So um yeah, apparently the film has enough plot holes to fly a star destroyer, has a 56% critic score on rotten tomatoes, and Richard E Grant called it a bad word, had bad reactions, and is ashamed to be in it. Now I’m torn whenever or not I should cancel my ticket order for the 24th

    Grant was the only One passable in this movie but yes, cancel and avoid as the plague.
  • Starmasui73146
    1798 posts Member
    edited December 2019
    Well I finally saw the film and I actually have positive things to say about it.

    Raves:
    1.) I loved the desert chase that was really cool. It reminded me of the pod race from episode one a little bit, in parts.
    2.) I love the hyper space jumping with the Millennium Falcon with Poe driving. That was epically wild how he dodged so many objects and such.
    3.) I loved the alien snake monster.
    4.) I loved the comical banter between Poe and Finn about Poe being a former spice runner.
    5.) I loved the interaction between Zorii Bliss and Poe.
    6.) I loved how they closed out Kylo's story. The way they introduced him to grace (undeserved/ unmerited favor). That and his conscience thinking of what his father would say.
    7.) I loved the touching moment between Kylo and Rey when they kissed.
    8.) I loved the epic lightsaber duel next to the raging sea.
    9.) I loved all the new cast and characters introduced.
    10.) I loved all the alien costumes.
    11.) The Sith temple with the thousands of Sith cultists was freaky and their leader created a deadly enemy.
    12.) The twist of Snoke's origin was cool as heck.
    13.) The twist of Rey's Grandparent was class act, though Youtube gave it away months ago.
    14.) As you know, I do not like the concept of the force. But being an amateur writer myself, I know that having Leia become a Jedi was a natural progression of her character. I was thus thrilled to see her (younger self) training with Luke right after "Return of the Jedi".
    15.) I was very happy to see how they integrated Leia's (older age) footage over like six different scenes. They made it look like it was supposed to be that way.
    16.) I liked the huge Final Order Star Destroyers and their special ability.
    17.) I was thrilled to see Londo back and he actually has a big roll to play in the dramatic finalie.
    18.) I was glad to see C3-PO finally gets to do something important.
    19.) I loved the theme of having hope beyond hope when all seems lost.
    20.) I loved the theme of self sacrifice.
    21.) I loved the theme of love and companionship despite facing such a sinister threat.
    22.) I liked how Palps quickly replaced the poser First Order with a true Universal empire known as The Final Order.

    Rants:
    1.) It rushed along very rapidly but I blame Rian Johnson for that. - If Rian Johnson had advanced the story instead of a tv episode style, running out of fuel script, J.J. would not be in this pickle. Instead poor Abrams had to cram two films into one to un-cluster blank Rian's mess. That said though he did a kickin' job for a guy trying to tie up all loose ends in 2 hours and 35 minutes.

    2.) I would have like to have learned more about the knights of Ren. - But again I feel that's Rian's fault because he completely ignored them in his film. There is simply not enough time to fit it in the film. Perhaps a special extended edition or split it into two films? 😃

    3.) It's a pity J.J. had to rush through it, I would have liked to know what happened at the bottom of that hole in "Return of the Jedi" when Palpatine fell. Ah well, maybe in a tv movie on Disney ++.

    4.) I would have liked to see a little more of that atmosphere battle between the ships.

    5.) They needed to explain that the ships were still in atmosphere because when they all get on the top of the Star Destroyer it's like a what the freak moment. It needs a brief explanation or maybe some more clouds.

    6.) Having the story lead us to where Rey invokes the possession of thousands of dead Jedi spirits to stop the evil dark lord was unfortunate. It kind of pushes a highly questionable concept. The story gave us no choice, the dark lord was to powerful for he had invoked the possession of thousands of dead Sith spirits himself. Sooooo as you can see the concept led Rey to this ridiculously dangerous decision. So as I said a unfortunate story element. Not something you want your kids to try. "Oh hey mom I'm going to invite legions of spirits into me have a nice day."
    "Wait...your what?!!!

    But other then that the film was really good. I give it 4 out of 5 stars and a B+

    In the end everybody is unique. How you view a film, is how you view a film.
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    “There is always hope.”
  • if I'm honest TROS is probably my new favorite Star Wars movie
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