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What are these damages? DICE Dev Team *should* look into Reinforcement Weps.

First and foremost, this is not a "git gud" or "you just suck" type of discussion, leave that attitude at the door. Second, these are 100% my observations, experience and opinions, if you have anything constructive to add, I'd appreciate it. Third, I'm sure many players are also wondering about the damage output and receiving damage of these weapons.

Recently been getting infuriated on the damage output/receiving end from the Commando E-5 and Arc Trooper / Aerial Trooper Dual DC-17 and single DC-17 respectively. Yes, I have played them all, yes, I believe they are a bit over tuned to high HP Trooper types like the Support. Sure, anyone can say the damage is fine when you're using them but how about being on the receiving end? Not so fun anymore is it? Let me explain....

A Commando's E-5, Arc Trooper Dual DC-17 and Aerial Trooper single DC-17 at close-med range can 3 hit kill (3HK) Assault, Support, Officer and Specialist, mind you that all Troops except the Support has a base line HP of 150. Support has 200 HP. Recently, I've noticed and experimented with all 4 different Trooper classes and EACH class gets killed in 3 hits of the Commando's E-5, Arc Trooper Dual DC-17's and Aerial Trooper DC-17. How is this possible? How does each class get 3HK with these weapons as you are dumping 10+ rounds into them yet it only takes a minimum of 3 hits to kill 150/200 HP Troopers? I get Reinforcements have high HP than regular Troopers, but the fact that these Reinforcements have 3HK weapons is a bit concerning. How are these weapons stronger than Lando's, Han's or Leia's pistols or FINN's Assault Rifle and these are HERO's?

I've also been 3-4HK killed by Dual DC-17's as a Commando with 350HP..HOW? How am I getting killed at 350 HP just as the same as a 150 HP Trooper? It's occurred on MANY occasions where I'd 1v1 a Arc Trooper Dual DC-17 and LOSE to 3 hit kills as I'm dumping Commando E-5 and Vibrosword hits into a Arc Trooper.

What are these numbers DICE? How does 3 hits = a loss of 200 HP on a Support or 350 HP Commando in 3 hits? Are these 100 HP rounds to the body and 150HP hits to the head or something? I don't understand. Is there a spreadsheet where we can see the damage numbers? Something. Or could I be crazy and the hit registration is utter trash? Which is it? Hit reg or blanket damage?

These 3 rounds would have to be 50 each to kill a 150 HP Assault player, but wait, If the player has the star card Toughen Up at Tier 4, they should still be able to survive a 3HK E-5 or DC-17 direct hits right? You'd think so, but even when I've had that active during my engagements, I've ALWAYS 100% been killed in 3 hits, no matter what. The ONLY time I'm surviving the damages from Arc, Aerial or Commando is when I'm long rage engagement and I have a better chance at rolling, dodging or running away into cover. Going toe to toe, close - med range engagements, rolling away or ADAD spam still get dropped 3 hits.

Something is not adding up to the damage output from these weapons. How is it I'm able to barely SURVIVE a Drodika's or B2 Droid Overpower attacks while dodging and rolling 5+ hits at 200HP as Support but can't survive 3 direct hits from a Arc Trooper (single or Dual DC-17) or Commando's 3HK weapons as I roll or jump away as 200 HP Support?

Being on the other side of the coin, I do like being the Commando much more than the Arc or Aerial Trooper. I don't know, I've also witnessed players say and think that the Separatists Reinforcements weapons are "stronger" than the Clones. Who knows for sure, only DICE does.

In closing, I'd hope to see some investigation and experimentation from DICE's end to see if these weapons are "as intended". I'm only one person who's speaking out but the rest of you could share your experiences and observations here as well. Thanks.
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  • Lyc4n
    1135 posts Member
    I think these are headshots at least a couple of them for sure
  • Lyc4n wrote: »
    I think these are headshots at least a couple of them for sure

    Possible indeed. However, I've been dropped by different players who are Arc, Aerial or Commando with 3HK and it's all too consistent dying to 3 shots majority of the time when I'm engaging in 1v1 combat.

    Being that I've played about a hour ago in CS and thinking maybe it's just a coincidence, I started off as Support (full 200 HP) and before I know it, 1v1 with a Arc Trooper in D objective on Naboo and was dead in 3 hits while unloading TL-50 w/ cooling and reduced spread attachments and Tier 4 Impact Grenade close-med range. Got that player down to maybe 1/3 HP but still, I was at a disadvantage.
    PC Specs: i7-9600k / RTX 2060 6G / GIGABYTE Z390 UD MOBO / EVGA 650BQ 650w PSU / MSI Oculux 24" G-SYNC Monitor / Corsair Vengeance 16G DDR4 RAM / 500G SATA III SSD / Logitech G502 Mouse / Logitech G710+ Keyboard / Razer Kraken 7.1 v2 Headset / Windows 10 Home.
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