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I sense a plot to destroy the lightside in HvV

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  • willywonka7
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    edited January 24
    The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    If she's by herself shes an easy target! She has one chance to shock the enemy and eliminate them or see's done for. No best blaster hero would go to han if we're talking about them playing by themselves away from teammates like I said.

    He can dish out a ton of damage with just one ability in a split second in comparison and it also acts as a force push. Also you can still use all abilities at super close range by himself, unlike iden who has to resort to hopping around for secondary fire and one last attempt droid stun to kill them before they are killed. Shield is only good at close range by herself on a few blaster heroes and pulse cannon is pointless.
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Against other Blasters, but in the current meta of Sabers, it’s pretty easy to deal with her, once shock is gone she’s pretty much dead.

    True. And also her droid is bug that it hardly even pops out.

    What? A bug that her droid doesn't shock? Happens very rarely for me

    Yea in pubs or when I use her. I could hear the noise when she sends out her droid, I jump but I see that the droid is not visible.

    Maybe don't jump? Does the droid still shock players?

    If I don't jump I'll get shocked in front. It does sometimes but most of the time , it doesn't pop up in my screen and no animation of it shocking me at all.

    Odd. Try to recreate it. If it still happens PM RogueZeroRendar
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Against other Blasters, but in the current meta of Sabers, it’s pretty easy to deal with her, once shock is gone she’s pretty much dead.

    True. And also her droid is bug that it hardly even pops out.

    What? A bug that her droid doesn't shock? Happens very rarely for me

    Yea in pubs or when I use her. I could hear the noise when she sends out her droid, I jump but I see that the droid is not visible.

    Maybe don't jump? Does the droid still shock players?

    If I don't jump I'll get shocked in front. It does sometimes but most of the time , it doesn't pop up in my screen and no animation of it shocking me at all.

    Odd. Try to recreate it. If it still happens PM RogueZeroRendar

    It happened two days ago. I don't mind bcuz I don't use iden, but it feels bad whoever likes playing iden.
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Against other Blasters, but in the current meta of Sabers, it’s pretty easy to deal with her, once shock is gone she’s pretty much dead.

    True. And also her droid is bug that it hardly even pops out.

    What? A bug that her droid doesn't shock? Happens very rarely for me

    Yea in pubs or when I use her. I could hear the noise when she sends out her droid, I jump but I see that the droid is not visible.

    Maybe don't jump? Does the droid still shock players?

    If I don't jump I'll get shocked in front. It does sometimes but most of the time , it doesn't pop up in my screen and no animation of it shocking me at all.

    Odd. Try to recreate it. If it still happens PM RogueZeroRendar

    It happened two days ago. I don't mind bcuz I don't use iden, but it feels bad whoever likes playing iden.

    If you jump as a Lightsaber yeah you can pretty much avoid Idens shock but you should still see the shocked effect on your screen. Send me a video if you do it again. Could just be you using the simple trick everyone tries when they see the droid
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    Baby Yoda is love, Baby Yoda is life.

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  • Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    Like I said, depends on the map.

    Finn I’m Starkiller will get farmed, but Finn on Endor is a completely different story. You have to play campy with Finn and basically hide in corners to avoid CC, while super Ani and super Luke kill anyone who gets close. Rey is actually quite nice here, as well, since Mind Trick helps prevent DS from quad diving the Finn.

    GG is a threat to Finn while doing this, but he’s not impossible to play around on certain maps. The rest won’t do anything to Finn.

    If Vader chokes him, he gets mashed to death, Kylo will never have the opportunity to Pull/Freeze and Frenzy will result in him getting mashed, and Maul just gets mashed.

    I think you’re sleeping on Finn. He’s rather busted.
    Confidence born of ignorance
  • The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Iden straight up sucks and is incredibly easy to farm. This goes for all blasters.

    Boba is the exception because jetpack and recovery. Finn is also unique due to the strength of his buff. Beyond that, he’s trash. For him to work, you also need a four stack that’s very good.
    Confidence born of ignorance
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    Like I said, depends on the map.

    Finn I’m Starkiller will get farmed, but Finn on Endor is a completely different story. You have to play campy with Finn and basically hide in corners to avoid CC, while super Ani and super Luke kill anyone who gets close. Rey is actually quite nice here, as well, since Mind Trick helps prevent DS from quad diving the Finn.

    GG is a threat to Finn while doing this, but he’s not impossible to play around on certain maps. The rest won’t do anything to Finn.

    If Vader chokes him, he gets mashed to death, Kylo will never have the opportunity to Pull/Freeze and Frenzy will result in him getting mashed, and Maul just gets mashed.

    I think you’re sleeping on Finn. He’s rather busted.

    Exactly. People don’t seem to realize how over the top Finn’s one ability is.
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Against other Blasters, but in the current meta of Sabers, it’s pretty easy to deal with her, once shock is gone she’s pretty much dead.

    True. And also her droid is bug that it hardly even pops out.

    Yeah I've been getting weird Iden droid bugs lately too.....but that's not a surprise as the game is super unstable and more bugs are always appearing between updates and during updates.

    I get that one on occasion and also the one where the droid doesn't go away properly and is stuck in my line of sight until i use it again.
  • I guarantee the way DICE works that Luke will get a big nerf. I disagree that Rey is trash however should could use a small damage buff.
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Against other Blasters, but in the current meta of Sabers, it’s pretty easy to deal with her, once shock is gone she’s pretty much dead.

    True. And also her droid is bug that it hardly even pops out.

    What? A bug that her droid doesn't shock? Happens very rarely for me

    Yea in pubs or when I use her. I could hear the noise when she sends out her droid, I jump but I see that the droid is not visible.

    Maybe don't jump? Does the droid still shock players?

    If I don't jump I'll get shocked in front. It does sometimes but most of the time , it doesn't pop up in my screen and no animation of it shocking me at all.

    Odd. Try to recreate it. If it still happens PM RogueZeroRendar

    It happened two days ago. I don't mind bcuz I don't use iden, but it feels bad whoever likes playing iden.

    If you jump as a Lightsaber yeah you can pretty much avoid Idens shock but you should still see the shocked effect on your screen. Send me a video if you do it again. Could just be you using the simple trick everyone tries when they see the droid

    I'll try to record it if I see it. And yea as a saber . f
  • The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    I would say the DS has no true garbage characters. Bossk may be the weakest but he can still do a lot of damage and certain maps his is a beast. Leia is absolute garbage and Finn is pretty close, his one use is taking out a cocky Boba (he's supposedly a counter to Palp but Palp easily handles him).
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    Like I said, depends on the map.

    Finn I’m Starkiller will get farmed, but Finn on Endor is a completely different story. You have to play campy with Finn and basically hide in corners to avoid CC, while super Ani and super Luke kill anyone who gets close. Rey is actually quite nice here, as well, since Mind Trick helps prevent DS from quad diving the Finn.

    GG is a threat to Finn while doing this, but he’s not impossible to play around on certain maps. The rest won’t do anything to Finn.

    If Vader chokes him, he gets mashed to death, Kylo will never have the opportunity to Pull/Freeze and Frenzy will result in him getting mashed, and Maul just gets mashed.

    I think you’re sleeping on Finn. He’s rather busted.

    Im not. In ender he's useless. 99% of the time he spawns outside. Boba and OE blaster will just kill him. Ik u can say ull protect him, but no point as boba and maul wlll block whicever ability u throw at em.
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

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    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Against other Blasters, but in the current meta of Sabers, it’s pretty easy to deal with her, once shock is gone she’s pretty much dead.

    True. And also her droid is bug that it hardly even pops out.

    Yeah I've been getting weird Iden droid bugs lately too.....but that's not a surprise as the game is super unstable and more bugs are always appearing between updates and during updates.

    I get that one on occasion and also the one where the droid doesn't go away properly and is stuck in my line of sight until i use it again.

    Oh yea that too. Its in ur screen the whole time until u use it again.
  • I guarantee the way DICE works that Luke will get a big nerf. I disagree that Rey is trash however should could use a small damage buff.

    Rey needs to be able to dash thru blocks. That's the only buff that'll make her great again.
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Difference is that Grievs has to use a card, and it’s only on claw rush, and Vader has 50% only for four or five seconds. They have it literally for Ten or so seconds, and get it back in 13.
    And there’s no reason for the LS to even need to come and chase DS, it’s TDM. They can sit and wait for as long as they need to until DS decides to engage them. It’s not hard. Grievous and Vader can’t do enough to a team of Big deal buffed Anakin, Luke, Han or Chewie, who are all sitting with Finn.
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    Like I said, depends on the map.

    Finn I’m Starkiller will get farmed, but Finn on Endor is a completely different story. You have to play campy with Finn and basically hide in corners to avoid CC, while super Ani and super Luke kill anyone who gets close. Rey is actually quite nice here, as well, since Mind Trick helps prevent DS from quad diving the Finn.

    GG is a threat to Finn while doing this, but he’s not impossible to play around on certain maps. The rest won’t do anything to Finn.

    If Vader chokes him, he gets mashed to death, Kylo will never have the opportunity to Pull/Freeze and Frenzy will result in him getting mashed, and Maul just gets mashed.

    I think you’re sleeping on Finn. He’s rather busted.

    Im not. In ender he's useless. 99% of the time he spawns outside. Boba and OE blaster will just kill him. Ik u can say ull protect him, but no point as boba and maul wlll block whicever ability u throw at em.

    You’re sleeping on Finn, and this confirms it.

    Finn provides LS the best chance of winning Endor. Camp computer station and it’s light work (not really, but it does give LS a much better chance).

    LS will always be able to control the computer station off spawn, due to home spawns. After that, it’s just turtle, punish anyone that dives the Finn, and farm Ret with Big Deal. If Finn dies, which he will, sooner or later, use Undercover Team to rotate back to computer station. You’ll also usually want Ani to meet him half way, as there’s a chance he can get caught out. Most times, DS will still be fighting the rest of the team in computer station, and he can stealthy make his way back. If they try to disengage, they get backslashed and CC’d to death.

    Most teams will swap off Boba on Endor pretty quick. All he does is build Ret because of Big Deal. He’s also an easy kill if tries to fight LS in CQC, which he’ll be forced to do.

    Try it out. I think you’ll be surprised
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    I guarantee the way DICE works that Luke will get a big nerf. I disagree that Rey is trash however should could use a small damage buff.

    Rey needs to be able to dash thru blocks. That's the only buff that'll make her great again.

    agree...and the game is very inconsistent when handling abilities, GG can crawl through anything yet Rey's dash is easily interrupted by a choke or force throw, wasting her best ability
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Difference is that Grievs has to use a card, and it’s only on claw rush, and Vader has 50% only for four or five seconds. They have it literally for Ten or so seconds, and get it back in 13.
    And there’s no reason for the LS to even need to come and chase DS, it’s TDM. They can sit and wait for as long as they need to until DS decides to engage them. It’s not hard. Grievous and Vader can’t do enough to a team of Big deal buffed Anakin, Luke, Han or Chewie, who are all sitting with Finn.

    Yes they can. And the cards boost their damage. They can and will do something. And one death is all it takes to split up ur team.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Difference is that Grievs has to use a card, and it’s only on claw rush, and Vader has 50% only for four or five seconds. They have it literally for Ten or so seconds, and get it back in 13.
    And there’s no reason for the LS to even need to come and chase DS, it’s TDM. They can sit and wait for as long as they need to until DS decides to engage them. It’s not hard. Grievous and Vader can’t do enough to a team of Big deal buffed Anakin, Luke, Han or Chewie, who are all sitting with Finn.

    You have the right idea. But, you’re not going to want Chewie or Han, or any other blaster. It’s Finn, Ani, Luke, Rey. Sometimes Yoda is used. It’s tricky enough getting Finn back safely - another blaster is too much to guard. Finn has it kinda easier due to Undercover Team, as well.

    You’re also forgetting that Finn can get the Big Deal cooldown reduced by 40% with cards, so it has a high active time. This is assuming no one uses the Finn exploit, of course.
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    Like I said, depends on the map.

    Finn I’m Starkiller will get farmed, but Finn on Endor is a completely different story. You have to play campy with Finn and basically hide in corners to avoid CC, while super Ani and super Luke kill anyone who gets close. Rey is actually quite nice here, as well, since Mind Trick helps prevent DS from quad diving the Finn.

    GG is a threat to Finn while doing this, but he’s not impossible to play around on certain maps. The rest won’t do anything to Finn.

    If Vader chokes him, he gets mashed to death, Kylo will never have the opportunity to Pull/Freeze and Frenzy will result in him getting mashed, and Maul just gets mashed.

    I think you’re sleeping on Finn. He’s rather busted.

    Im not. In ender he's useless. 99% of the time he spawns outside. Boba and OE blaster will just kill him. Ik u can say ull protect him, but no point as boba and maul wlll block whicever ability u throw at em.

    You’re sleeping on Finn, and this confirms it.

    Finn provides LS the best chance of winning Endor. Camp computer station and it’s light work (not really, but it does give LS a much better chance).

    LS will always be able to control the computer station off spawn, due to home spawns. After that, it’s just turtle, punish anyone that dives the Finn, and farm Ret with Big Deal. If Finn dies, which he will, sooner or later, use Undercover Team to rotate back to computer station. You’ll also usually want Ani to meet him half way, as there’s a chance he can get caught out. Most times, DS will still be fighting the rest of the team in computer station, and he can stealthy make his way back. If they try to disengage, they get backslashed and CC’d to death.

    Most teams will swap off Boba on Endor pretty quick. All he does is build Ret because of Big Deal. He’s also an easy kill if tries to fight LS in CQC, which he’ll be forced to do.

    Try it out. I think you’ll be surprised

    No Finn is Good but against me and my friends is useless. And boba hero hunt will find Finn. And also if I'm close to finn I'll find him cuz my map is scrambled. And won't be hard to find since there's only one entrance he'll try to go to.
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Play Finn in Co-OP or Ga, sit back near a objective that’s contested or that your team is defending, and just buff them with big deal. You can turn the tide just by doing this. Finn is easily the best support any team can have.
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
    I guarantee the way DICE works that Luke will get a big nerf. I disagree that Rey is trash however should could use a small damage buff.

    Rey needs to be able to dash thru blocks. That's the only buff that'll make her great again.

    agree...and the game is very inconsistent when handling abilities, GG can crawl through anything yet Rey's dash is easily interrupted by a choke or force throw, wasting her best ability

    Exactly grievous is so broken RN. And the LS are just terrible compared to DS.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Difference is that Grievs has to use a card, and it’s only on claw rush, and Vader has 50% only for four or five seconds. They have it literally for Ten or so seconds, and get it back in 13.
    And there’s no reason for the LS to even need to come and chase DS, it’s TDM. They can sit and wait for as long as they need to until DS decides to engage them. It’s not hard. Grievous and Vader can’t do enough to a team of Big deal buffed Anakin, Luke, Han or Chewie, who are all sitting with Finn.

    You have the right idea. But, you’re not going to want Chewie or Han, or any other blaster. It’s Finn, Ani, Luke, Rey. Sometimes Yoda is used. It’s tricky enough getting Finn back safely - another blaster is too much to guard. Finn has it kinda easier due to Undercover Team, as well.

    You’re also forgetting that Finn can get the Big Deal cooldown reduced by 40% with cards, so it has a high active time. This is assuming no one uses the Finn exploit, of course.

    Yea ik. But doesn't stop grievous and Vader from draining him. Me and my team will come from all directions. At the end Finn will die with any other blasters ur team has. And it'll make ur team split up. Pls ik and so does my friends know how to kill Finn.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Play Finn in Co-OP or Ga, sit back near a objective that’s contested or that your team is defending, and just buff them with big deal. You can turn the tide just by doing this. Finn is easily the best support any team can have.

    OK GA and HvV is different. Do you think boba,han,lando,grievous are good in GA?
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    Like I said, depends on the map.

    Finn I’m Starkiller will get farmed, but Finn on Endor is a completely different story. You have to play campy with Finn and basically hide in corners to avoid CC, while super Ani and super Luke kill anyone who gets close. Rey is actually quite nice here, as well, since Mind Trick helps prevent DS from quad diving the Finn.

    GG is a threat to Finn while doing this, but he’s not impossible to play around on certain maps. The rest won’t do anything to Finn.

    If Vader chokes him, he gets mashed to death, Kylo will never have the opportunity to Pull/Freeze and Frenzy will result in him getting mashed, and Maul just gets mashed.

    I think you’re sleeping on Finn. He’s rather busted.

    Im not. In ender he's useless. 99% of the time he spawns outside. Boba and OE blaster will just kill him. Ik u can say ull protect him, but no point as boba and maul wlll block whicever ability u throw at em.

    You’re sleeping on Finn, and this confirms it.

    Finn provides LS the best chance of winning Endor. Camp computer station and it’s light work (not really, but it does give LS a much better chance).

    LS will always be able to control the computer station off spawn, due to home spawns. After that, it’s just turtle, punish anyone that dives the Finn, and farm Ret with Big Deal. If Finn dies, which he will, sooner or later, use Undercover Team to rotate back to computer station. You’ll also usually want Ani to meet him half way, as there’s a chance he can get caught out. Most times, DS will still be fighting the rest of the team in computer station, and he can stealthy make his way back. If they try to disengage, they get backslashed and CC’d to death.

    Most teams will swap off Boba on Endor pretty quick. All he does is build Ret because of Big Deal. He’s also an easy kill if tries to fight LS in CQC, which he’ll be forced to do.

    Try it out. I think you’ll be surprised

    No Finn is Good but against me and my friends is useless. And boba hero hunt will find Finn. And also if I'm close to finn I'll find him cuz my map is scrambled. And won't be hard to find since there's only one entrance he'll try to go to.

    I’m sure you guys are great, but you have much to learn when it comes to Finn, it seems.

    Boba is a wasted pick against Finn on Endor, as you’re making is exponentially more difficult to break the turtle, and as I said above, you’re feeding Ret with him.

    The nice thing about Endor, is that there are multiple paths into the computer station. Map awareness is key. Theres also the rest of the team there. If you do kill Finn, you’ve burned your cooldowns and still have a full HP team looking at you. You can’t just freely walk away from them.

    There’s a lot of moving parts here that you’re not considering. Anyways, we’re not going to agree on this, and we play on different platforms, so neither party can back up what they say.
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
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    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Difference is that Grievs has to use a card, and it’s only on claw rush, and Vader has 50% only for four or five seconds. They have it literally for Ten or so seconds, and get it back in 13.
    And there’s no reason for the LS to even need to come and chase DS, it’s TDM. They can sit and wait for as long as they need to until DS decides to engage them. It’s not hard. Grievous and Vader can’t do enough to a team of Big deal buffed Anakin, Luke, Han or Chewie, who are all sitting with Finn.

    You have the right idea. But, you’re not going to want Chewie or Han, or any other blaster. It’s Finn, Ani, Luke, Rey. Sometimes Yoda is used. It’s tricky enough getting Finn back safely - another blaster is too much to guard. Finn has it kinda easier due to Undercover Team, as well.

    You’re also forgetting that Finn can get the Big Deal cooldown reduced by 40% with cards, so it has a high active time. This is assuming no one uses the Finn exploit, of course.

    Yea ik. But doesn't stop grievous and Vader from draining him. Me and my team will come from all directions. At the end Finn will die with any other blasters ur team has. And it'll make ur team split up. Pls ik and so does my friends know how to kill Finn.

    Vader isn’t touching Finn without losing his HP bar. Big Deal Ani and Luke are actually terrifying. Same goes for GG, though, he’s more of a threat, due to his combo potential.

    Again, I’m sure you guys are great, but from what you’re telling me, you haven’t played a proper team doing this.
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
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    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Play Finn in Co-OP or Ga, sit back near a objective that’s contested or that your team is defending, and just buff them with big deal. You can turn the tide just by doing this. Finn is easily the best support any team can have.

    OK GA and HvV is different. Do you think boba,han,lando,grievous are good in GA?

    I’m trying to say that Big Deal, just in a mode with troopers, pretty much buffs someone up a tier. Troopers essentially become enforcers, with Heavy getting 480 health, and everyone else with just 405. That means Vader takes at least four or five swings to kill one Trooper, while the trooper can return fire. I’m saying that GA is a more casual mode than HvV, and it’d be easier to pick Finn in those modes. In HvV he’s easily the best fourth option on most maps.
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    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    Like I said, depends on the map.

    Finn I’m Starkiller will get farmed, but Finn on Endor is a completely different story. You have to play campy with Finn and basically hide in corners to avoid CC, while super Ani and super Luke kill anyone who gets close. Rey is actually quite nice here, as well, since Mind Trick helps prevent DS from quad diving the Finn.

    GG is a threat to Finn while doing this, but he’s not impossible to play around on certain maps. The rest won’t do anything to Finn.

    If Vader chokes him, he gets mashed to death, Kylo will never have the opportunity to Pull/Freeze and Frenzy will result in him getting mashed, and Maul just gets mashed.

    I think you’re sleeping on Finn. He’s rather busted.

    Im not. In ender he's useless. 99% of the time he spawns outside. Boba and OE blaster will just kill him. Ik u can say ull protect him, but no point as boba and maul wlll block whicever ability u throw at em.

    You’re sleeping on Finn, and this confirms it.

    Finn provides LS the best chance of winning Endor. Camp computer station and it’s light work (not really, but it does give LS a much better chance).

    LS will always be able to control the computer station off spawn, due to home spawns. After that, it’s just turtle, punish anyone that dives the Finn, and farm Ret with Big Deal. If Finn dies, which he will, sooner or later, use Undercover Team to rotate back to computer station. You’ll also usually want Ani to meet him half way, as there’s a chance he can get caught out. Most times, DS will still be fighting the rest of the team in computer station, and he can stealthy make his way back. If they try to disengage, they get backslashed and CC’d to death.

    Most teams will swap off Boba on Endor pretty quick. All he does is build Ret because of Big Deal. He’s also an easy kill if tries to fight LS in CQC, which he’ll be forced to do.

    Try it out. I think you’ll be surprised

    No Finn is Good but against me and my friends is useless. And boba hero hunt will find Finn. And also if I'm close to finn I'll find him cuz my map is scrambled. And won't be hard to find since there's only one entrance he'll try to go to.

    I’m sure you guys are great, but you have much to learn when it comes to Finn, it seems.

    Boba is a wasted pick against Finn on Endor, as you’re making is exponentially more difficult to break the turtle, and as I said above, you’re feeding Ret with him.

    The nice thing about Endor, is that there are multiple paths into the computer station. Map awareness is key. Theres also the rest of the team there. If you do kill Finn, you’ve burned your cooldowns and still have a full HP team looking at you. You can’t just freely walk away from them.

    There’s a lot of moving parts here that you’re not considering. Anyways, we’re not going to agree on this, and we play on different platforms, so neither party can back up what they say.

    No Finn has ever been a problem in HvV. Boba is not a waste. Boba and a saber will spawn trap Finn. And if boba is wasted , I'll switch to maul or kylo.
  • Rural438 wrote: »
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    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Difference is that Grievs has to use a card, and it’s only on claw rush, and Vader has 50% only for four or five seconds. They have it literally for Ten or so seconds, and get it back in 13.
    And there’s no reason for the LS to even need to come and chase DS, it’s TDM. They can sit and wait for as long as they need to until DS decides to engage them. It’s not hard. Grievous and Vader can’t do enough to a team of Big deal buffed Anakin, Luke, Han or Chewie, who are all sitting with Finn.

    You have the right idea. But, you’re not going to want Chewie or Han, or any other blaster. It’s Finn, Ani, Luke, Rey. Sometimes Yoda is used. It’s tricky enough getting Finn back safely - another blaster is too much to guard. Finn has it kinda easier due to Undercover Team, as well.

    You’re also forgetting that Finn can get the Big Deal cooldown reduced by 40% with cards, so it has a high active time. This is assuming no one uses the Finn exploit, of course.

    Yea ik. But doesn't stop grievous and Vader from draining him. Me and my team will come from all directions. At the end Finn will die with any other blasters ur team has. And it'll make ur team split up. Pls ik and so does my friends know how to kill Finn.

    Vader isn’t touching Finn without losing his HP bar. Big Deal Ani and Luke are actually terrifying. Same goes for GG, though, he’s more of a threat, due to his combo potential.

    Again, I’m sure you guys are great, but from what you’re telling me, you haven’t played a proper team doing this.

    We have many times. What makes you think ur Finn is better than the Finn my friend has? Vader won't need to drain, just have him visible so we all drain him. I will love to see ur team go against my team, but crossplay 🙄🙄
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    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Play Finn in Co-OP or Ga, sit back near a objective that’s contested or that your team is defending, and just buff them with big deal. You can turn the tide just by doing this. Finn is easily the best support any team can have.

    OK GA and HvV is different. Do you think boba,han,lando,grievous are good in GA?

    I’m trying to say that Big Deal, just in a mode with troopers, pretty much buffs someone up a tier. Troopers essentially become enforcers, with Heavy getting 480 health, and everyone else with just 405. That means Vader takes at least four or five swings to kill one Trooper, while the trooper can return fire. I’m saying that GA is a more casual mode than HvV, and it’d be easier to pick Finn in those modes. In HvV he’s easily the best fourth option on most maps.

    GA Finn is way better than HvV. Finn is good but he'll get targeted easily. I rather pick lando than finn
  • Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
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    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Difference is that Grievs has to use a card, and it’s only on claw rush, and Vader has 50% only for four or five seconds. They have it literally for Ten or so seconds, and get it back in 13.
    And there’s no reason for the LS to even need to come and chase DS, it’s TDM. They can sit and wait for as long as they need to until DS decides to engage them. It’s not hard. Grievous and Vader can’t do enough to a team of Big deal buffed Anakin, Luke, Han or Chewie, who are all sitting with Finn.

    You have the right idea. But, you’re not going to want Chewie or Han, or any other blaster. It’s Finn, Ani, Luke, Rey. Sometimes Yoda is used. It’s tricky enough getting Finn back safely - another blaster is too much to guard. Finn has it kinda easier due to Undercover Team, as well.

    You’re also forgetting that Finn can get the Big Deal cooldown reduced by 40% with cards, so it has a high active time. This is assuming no one uses the Finn exploit, of course.

    Yea ik. But doesn't stop grievous and Vader from draining him. Me and my team will come from all directions. At the end Finn will die with any other blasters ur team has. And it'll make ur team split up. Pls ik and so does my friends know how to kill Finn.

    Vader isn’t touching Finn without losing his HP bar. Big Deal Ani and Luke are actually terrifying. Same goes for GG, though, he’s more of a threat, due to his combo potential.

    Again, I’m sure you guys are great, but from what you’re telling me, you haven’t played a proper team doing this.

    We have many times. What makes you think ur Finn is better than the Finn my friend has? Vader won't need to drain, just have him visible so we all drain him. I will love to see ur team go against my team, but crossplay 🙄🙄

    My Finn isn’t that great, as I don’t play him often. Others play him, while I take up other slots.

    I’m not claiming to be better than anyone. I’m explaining to you how the strategy works, and from what you’re telling me, it seems you haven’t played a team that does this the same way we do.

    I’m not telling you it’s a 100% win, as I’ve seen others lose doing this. Granted, mistakes were made there, but that’s another story. I’m telling you that it’s very strong, and to say Finn is useless is simply incorrect.
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
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    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Play Finn in Co-OP or Ga, sit back near a objective that’s contested or that your team is defending, and just buff them with big deal. You can turn the tide just by doing this. Finn is easily the best support any team can have.

    OK GA and HvV is different. Do you think boba,han,lando,grievous are good in GA?

    I’m trying to say that Big Deal, just in a mode with troopers, pretty much buffs someone up a tier. Troopers essentially become enforcers, with Heavy getting 480 health, and everyone else with just 405. That means Vader takes at least four or five swings to kill one Trooper, while the trooper can return fire. I’m saying that GA is a more casual mode than HvV, and it’d be easier to pick Finn in those modes. In HvV he’s easily the best fourth option on most maps.

    GA Finn is way better than HvV. Finn is good but he'll get targeted easily. I rather pick lando than finn

    You’re missing out on some simply broken Gameplay for the LS. Finn is a better pick for a fourth than anybody else now. You have to have Luke and Ani, Third could be Obi Wan, but RMT is pretty bad. Fourth had the pick between three blasters and a trash can, and only one of the Blasters can make sure that the Luke and Ani combo stays alive the longest. Finn is just a better fourth pick than anybody else.
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  • Rural438 wrote: »
    Rural438 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
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    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Difference is that Grievs has to use a card, and it’s only on claw rush, and Vader has 50% only for four or five seconds. They have it literally for Ten or so seconds, and get it back in 13.
    And there’s no reason for the LS to even need to come and chase DS, it’s TDM. They can sit and wait for as long as they need to until DS decides to engage them. It’s not hard. Grievous and Vader can’t do enough to a team of Big deal buffed Anakin, Luke, Han or Chewie, who are all sitting with Finn.

    You have the right idea. But, you’re not going to want Chewie or Han, or any other blaster. It’s Finn, Ani, Luke, Rey. Sometimes Yoda is used. It’s tricky enough getting Finn back safely - another blaster is too much to guard. Finn has it kinda easier due to Undercover Team, as well.

    You’re also forgetting that Finn can get the Big Deal cooldown reduced by 40% with cards, so it has a high active time. This is assuming no one uses the Finn exploit, of course.

    Yea ik. But doesn't stop grievous and Vader from draining him. Me and my team will come from all directions. At the end Finn will die with any other blasters ur team has. And it'll make ur team split up. Pls ik and so does my friends know how to kill Finn.

    Vader isn’t touching Finn without losing his HP bar. Big Deal Ani and Luke are actually terrifying. Same goes for GG, though, he’s more of a threat, due to his combo potential.

    Again, I’m sure you guys are great, but from what you’re telling me, you haven’t played a proper team doing this.

    We have many times. What makes you think ur Finn is better than the Finn my friend has? Vader won't need to drain, just have him visible so we all drain him. I will love to see ur team go against my team, but crossplay 🙄🙄

    My Finn isn’t that great, as I don’t play him often. Others play him, while I take up other slots.

    I’m not claiming to be better than anyone. I’m explaining to you how the strategy works, and from what you’re telling me, it seems you haven’t played a team that does this the same way we do.

    I’m not telling you it’s a 100% win, as I’ve seen others lose doing this. Granted, mistakes were made there, but that’s another story. I’m telling you that it’s very strong, and to say Finn is useless is simply incorrect.

    I have faced annoying teams before that camp with Finn. And we've won at the end as Finn were our majority of the kills. But u never faced a team like mine that can rely on another , and we will make the best use on our abilities. I never said Finn was useless, just won't be doing much as he would as another hero
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
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    I agree with you, but Finn is lowkey busted in HvV. Breaking a camping Finn on maps like Endor or Death Star is pretty difficult. Good luck killing Finn with buff Ani and Luke mashing you.

    Granted, this requires a full team to do and is really only used in 4v4’s.

    Not really. Grievous,Vader, maul and kylo. Ik u do 4v4s as do I but any finn we see gets killed and spawn trap.

    If the team doesn’t remember the plan. If Finn has a coordinated group, it becomes hard to kill the LS considering the 50% damage reduction, as well as skill cooldowns.

    No it doesn't . grievous 3 abilities destroys finn. What will finn do if I claw rush, Vader chokes,and then I use unrelenting? Lol killing blasters isn't hard.

    Hard to do such a thing when Luke, Anakin, and Han are taking twice as many hits and wailing on you while you’re trying to tunnel Finn. I agree killing blasters isn’t hard, but if you are seriously focusing Finn with 25% damage reduction while forgetting his three teammates, you’re going to lose that team fight. You’ll likely kill Finn, but you’ll be wiped by the other three.

    Not really when my team knows wat they're doing. U said han? Lol he'll die quicker than finn. Cc immunity is what allows finn to die quickly . the only cc that team u said I heroic might. Finn and han are dead easily whether u like it or not.

    You do realize what damage reduction means, right?
    Here I’ll do the calculations for you.

    Han has 650 health. Big Deal buffs health by 120, so he hits 770. Add 50% damage reduction means he gains essentially an additional 385 Health. This means he has 1,155 health while affected by big deal, as well as lowered cool down and infinite super cooling.
    Anakin has 800 health. while under big deal he gains 920, times 50% damage reduction equals 1,380 health, even more with the 100 bonus health. Luke dits under him with 1,305 he’s, and Finn is at around 900 health, every thirteen seconds, or even longer if Finn gets headshots. Nobody except Dooku. has the raw DPS to be able to straight up kill 3 Vader’s and one Anakin that have all their abilities up. Especially if they’re an actual team.

    And do you know grievous and Vader's reduction? Its 90 and they have 3 abilities in total. And u need all heroes to protect Finn. While my team just needs 2 and I have 2 extra villains with abilities to use them if necessary

    Play Finn in Co-OP or Ga, sit back near a objective that’s contested or that your team is defending, and just buff them with big deal. You can turn the tide just by doing this. Finn is easily the best support any team can have.

    OK GA and HvV is different. Do you think boba,han,lando,grievous are good in GA?

    I’m trying to say that Big Deal, just in a mode with troopers, pretty much buffs someone up a tier. Troopers essentially become enforcers, with Heavy getting 480 health, and everyone else with just 405. That means Vader takes at least four or five swings to kill one Trooper, while the trooper can return fire. I’m saying that GA is a more casual mode than HvV, and it’d be easier to pick Finn in those modes. In HvV he’s easily the best fourth option on most maps.

    GA Finn is way better than HvV. Finn is good but he'll get targeted easily. I rather pick lando than finn

    You’re missing out on some simply broken Gameplay for the LS. Finn is a better pick for a fourth than anybody else now. You have to have Luke and Ani, Third could be Obi Wan, but RMT is pretty bad. Fourth had the pick between three blasters and a trash can, and only one of the Blasters can make sure that the Luke and Ani combo stays alive the longest. Finn is just a better fourth pick than anybody else.

    Obi no. I'll take Rey or yoda over him. I think everyone would too. Still lose against a great DS team.
  • The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

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    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Iden straight up sucks and is incredibly easy to farm. This goes for all blasters.

    Boba is the exception because jetpack and recovery. Finn is also unique due to the strength of his buff. Beyond that, he’s trash. For him to work, you also need a four stack that’s very good.

    Played Iden with randoms yesterday and got 2 10 person kill streaks. I farmed those boys. Iden should be in the decent category along with Han and Boba.
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  • The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Iden straight up sucks and is incredibly easy to farm. This goes for all blasters.

    Boba is the exception because jetpack and recovery. Finn is also unique due to the strength of his buff. Beyond that, he’s trash. For him to work, you also need a four stack that’s very good.

    Played Iden with randoms yesterday and got 2 10 person kill streaks. I farmed those boys. Iden should be in the decent category along with Han and Boba.

    I will never judge a hero’s performance against bad players. Until she can be played against another stack, she’s whatever.

    Boba is so far above her and Han, it’s comical.
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  • The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Iden straight up sucks and is incredibly easy to farm. This goes for all blasters.

    Boba is the exception because jetpack and recovery. Finn is also unique due to the strength of his buff. Beyond that, he’s trash. For him to work, you also need a four stack that’s very good.

    Played Iden with randoms yesterday and got 2 10 person kill streaks. I farmed those boys. Iden should be in the decent category along with Han and Boba.

    I will never judge a hero’s performance against bad players. Until she can be played against another stack, she’s whatever.

    Boba is so far above her and Han, it’s comical.

    Lets see. I belive Idens gun is better than Hans due to the extra 150 that can bypass blocks. Her shock is one of the best abilities in the game when it works. You can melt a good 600 health with it. Droid shield can be useful in situations and we all know Pulse cannon is useless in HvV. Iden isnt better than Han but she ain't Garbo. Boba is better to tho due to his sheer advantage in mobility. Iden is the 3rd best blaster hero and shes a good one
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  • The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Iden straight up sucks and is incredibly easy to farm. This goes for all blasters.

    Boba is the exception because jetpack and recovery. Finn is also unique due to the strength of his buff. Beyond that, he’s trash. For him to work, you also need a four stack that’s very good.

    Played Iden with randoms yesterday and got 2 10 person kill streaks. I farmed those boys. Iden should be in the decent category along with Han and Boba.

    I will never judge a hero’s performance against bad players. Until she can be played against another stack, she’s whatever.

    Boba is so far above her and Han, it’s comical.

    Lets see. I belive Idens gun is better than Hans due to the extra 150 that can bypass blocks. Her shock is one of the best abilities in the game when it works. You can melt a good 600 health with it. Droid shield can be useful in situations and we all know Pulse cannon is useless in HvV. Iden isnt better than Han but she ain't Garbo. Boba is better to tho due to his sheer advantage in mobility. Iden is the 3rd best blaster hero and shes a good one

    She’s not garbage. That’s just me being dramatic. Shes good at pub stomping, but become irrelevant against proper players.

    Boba > Finn > Phasma > Han (with Big Deal) > Chewie > Iden
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  • polarition wrote: »
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    Obi-Wan and Rey aren't really trash, though. I've done a lot of damage as Obi-Wan even with the nerf. And I've seen plenty of excellent Rey players to know she can be powerful if used correctly.

    I can be powerful with Leia.

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    I can get you 5 screenshots of me being first place with Leia. Just because you see one person doing well with a hero does not mean that hero is good

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    Tell me what you want, and I will show you how the dark side can help you achieve it.

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  • The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Iden straight up sucks and is incredibly easy to farm. This goes for all blasters.

    Boba is the exception because jetpack and recovery. Finn is also unique due to the strength of his buff. Beyond that, he’s trash. For him to work, you also need a four stack that’s very good.

    Played Iden with randoms yesterday and got 2 10 person kill streaks. I farmed those boys. Iden should be in the decent category along with Han and Boba.



    Boba is so far above Han, it’s comical.
    Nah.
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  • Meerkat wrote: »
    The Problem is thus in terms of HvV:

    1.pmwb4ob6cf9z.png
    As can be seen in the table the Lightside is really bottom heavy with most character being in the lower categories in terms of being able to stand on their own in HvV. Darkside is top heavy being able to stand on their own in HvV.
    2. All the bugs of course!
    3. Blaster heroes need a lot of buffs to be good in both HvV and large scale game modes!
    4. Dice has over nerfed the team building tactics of the lightside! Obiwan-Rey dual mind trick, Chewy-Lando Shock, Yoda - Finn buffs, etc. Yeah it was needed because they were way op, but similar team tactics exist for darkside still! I'm not saying nerf these tactics on DS......just figure out a way to improve and bring back these tactics in some way on the LS without imbalancing the game! This is a major reason as to why LS isn't as good anymore. These team tactics are wiped out on the LS a lot and still super heavy on the DS! Lightside has too many force push abilities that push people far away and prevent team tactics again.
    • Kylo Freeze - Phasma/Iden/fett firing.....or fett rockets
    • Repeat for vader chock and same people
    • Phasma droid - Bossk traps
    • Kylo Freeze and vader choke...plus the other stuff
    • Dark aura and previous stuff
    • exposed weakness and everything else
    • Grievous unrelenting as a shield and everything else
    • vader choke or kylo freeze and unrelenting.

    Yes light has some of this with force push and han abilities and anakin abilities, but it's really just a specific few people now. Darkside in comparison has got some REAL SYNERGY in comparison!

    DICE needs to figure out a way to improve these team tactics again without making the game super imbalanced

    No idea how you got away with calling Iden Garbage. Shes the top blaster hero in the game

    Iden straight up sucks and is incredibly easy to farm. This goes for all blasters.

    Boba is the exception because jetpack and recovery. Finn is also unique due to the strength of his buff. Beyond that, he’s trash. For him to work, you also need a four stack that’s very good.

    Played Iden with randoms yesterday and got 2 10 person kill streaks. I farmed those boys. Iden should be in the decent category along with Han and Boba.



    Boba is so far above Han, it’s comical.
    Nah.

    Against competent teams, it’s not even close.

    Han gets farmed, while Boba has free repositioning. Any who’s played 4v4’s will tell you the same.

    Han is great for pub stomping, though.
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  • MC_XIX
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    I don't sense anything.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    I don't sense anything.

    You cut yourself off from the force
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    I don't sense anything.

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  • Axone
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    The lightside is garbage because it is made up by scavenger girls, slave boys, ex storm troopers, and moisture farmers.
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    Don't forget the Jedi that barely pass the Jedi Trial aka Obiwan-Kenobi
  • Axone
    478 posts Member
    @SWBF2 game designer.

    Hello, please consider all feedback from all players. Lightside hero generally struggle in Hero vs Villians. A slight buff to all lightside heroes except Luke Skywalker and Han Solo would be cool.
  • buff
    256 posts Member
    yes, we need to move quickly if the light side is to survive.......

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    adding Windu

    If you got a turtle vader that needs put in his place, dont whine and cry for nerfs....call that mother **** Mace
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  • BlueSpy3DO
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    edited January 25
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    Mundi is just there to talk about the droid attack on the Wookiees
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