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I'm all for keeping Vader as is. Most players in this game are bad players. Bad players are slow and easily flanked. If Vader didn't exist, these players wouldn't be able to survive.

We need to support the peasants who lack the skill to play the game properly, else the game would chase off most of the bad player community.

The best solution is to make any one Jedi equal to Vader in stats, so that bad players have a crutch on both sides, trash players won't feel aggravated because their reaction time is slow, and they get flanked whenever they play. Buffing a single Hero to Vader level still balances the factions better, and keeps the trash reaction time community satisfied with their crutch

Best solution

And now he felt her, really felt her in the Force; He felt a bond, deeper and more intimate than he’d ever had before; and for a precious eternal instant he was her. . . 

he was the beat of her heart and he was the motion of her lips. He was her soft words as though she spoke a prayer to the stars— I love you, Anakin. In life, and in death, we will always be one. I am yours


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  • DiamondxStyles
    2413 posts Member
    edited March 3
    ROMG4 wrote: »
    I'm all for keeping Vader as is. Most players in this game are bad players. Bad players are slow and easily flanked. If Vader didn't exist, these players wouldn't be able to survive.

    We need to support the peasants who lack the skill to play the game properly, else the game would chase off most of the bad player community.

    The best solution is to make any one Jedi equal to Vader in stats, so that bad players have a crutch on both sides, trash players won't feel aggravated because their reaction time is slow, and they get flanked whenever they play. Buffing a single Hero to Vader level still balances the factions better, and keeps the trash reaction time community satisfied with their crutch

    Best solution


    It's actually not. Any smart person realizes that Heroes Heroes (or villains and villains) being equal or balanced is completely irrelevant. Heroes and Villains must be near perfectly balanced, due to actually being opposing factions.

    This solution balances the Heroes better, and keeps a crutch of the bad players that are slow and get flanked all the time. Vader is the only character that can survive flanks, and an exorbitant amount of user error. If both sides have one, then it is balanced

    And now he felt her, really felt her in the Force; He felt a bond, deeper and more intimate than he’d ever had before; and for a precious eternal instant he was her. . . 

    he was the beat of her heart and he was the motion of her lips. He was her soft words as though she spoke a prayer to the stars— I love you, Anakin. In life, and in death, we will always be one. I am yours


  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Whaaat in blue hell are you even talking about...lol?



    Buff a single hero to Vader's level so trash players don't feel underrepresented. This still balances the factions out better, and keeps bad players around so long as they can play their crutches.

    The trash players in the community deserve options too

    You're not making any sense.

    Are you saying Vader is un-killable? Are you saying that a trash player can use Vader and never die?

    I don't get what the issue is with Vader. Id day that Emperor Palps would be far more useful to newer players than Vader.

    A new player with Vader usually gets melted pretty easily. By your logic, Vader would need a buff.
  • Yes, let’s fight fire with fire and watch the balance of the game burn down.
    So this is how it all ends....

    Goodbye Battlefront II.
    Goodbye fellow forumgoers..
    Goodbye to this community..
    Goodbye to the forums...
    This is the end...
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  • Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Whaaat in blue hell are you even talking about...lol?



    Buff a single hero to Vader's level so trash players don't feel underrepresented. This still balances the factions out better, and keeps bad players around so long as they can play their crutches.

    The trash players in the community deserve options too

    You're not making any sense.

    Are you saying Vader is un-killable? Are you saying that a trash player can use Vader and never die?

    I don't get what the issue is with Vader. Id day that Emperor Palps would be far more useful to newer players than Vader.

    A new player with Vader usually gets melted pretty easily. By your logic, Vader would need a buff.

    A bad '3 out of 10' player can use Vader and turn into a '7 out of 10'. Please point to where I said "Vader is unkillable in the hands of a trash player". A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    And now he felt her, really felt her in the Force; He felt a bond, deeper and more intimate than he’d ever had before; and for a precious eternal instant he was her. . . 

    he was the beat of her heart and he was the motion of her lips. He was her soft words as though she spoke a prayer to the stars— I love you, Anakin. In life, and in death, we will always be one. I am yours


  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



  • Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    You're welcome to see it. We have a surplus of top level Xbox players on the forum that would welcome a:
    1v1
    2v2
    Or
    4v4

    Take your pick. All they need is a gamertag

    And now he felt her, really felt her in the Force; He felt a bond, deeper and more intimate than he’d ever had before; and for a precious eternal instant he was her. . . 

    he was the beat of her heart and he was the motion of her lips. He was her soft words as though she spoke a prayer to the stars— I love you, Anakin. In life, and in death, we will always be one. I am yours


  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    You're welcome to see it. We have a surplus of top level Xbox players on the forum that would welcome a:
    1v1
    2v2
    Or
    4v4

    Take your pick. All they need is a gamertag

    So basically you're saying. I can play anyone and easily beat them with Vader? I seriously doubt that.

    Either way, im not looking to constantly fight people because they disagree. I've already had my PMs filled with local yocals telling me to fight them.

    You wanna sit their and keep complaing Vader, that's your choice.

    Im gonna keep saying. Hes not as OP as you and a few others claim he is. And that's because hes not, he's easily flanked and slow. That's the reality of it all.

    Yes, Vader is a beast 1 vs 1. As he should be. But theres also many heroes that can toy with Vader and open up hits/shots by the rest of his team. And since hes slow, this becomes one of Vaders biggest weakness.

  • Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    You're welcome to see it. We have a surplus of top level Xbox players on the forum that would welcome a:
    1v1
    2v2
    Or
    4v4

    Take your pick. All they need is a gamertag

    So basically you're saying. I can play anyone and easily beat them with Vader? I seriously doubt that.

    Either way, im not looking to constantly fight people because they disagree. I've already had my PMs filled with local yocals telling me to fight them.

    You wanna sit their and keep complaing Vader, that's your choice.

    Im gonna keep saying. Hes not as OP as you and a few others claim he is. And that's because hes not, he's easily flanked and slow. That's the reality of it all.

    Yes, Vader is a beast 1 vs 1. As he should be. But theres also many heroes that can toy with Vader and open up hits/shots by the rest of his team. And since hes slow, this becomes one of Vaders biggest weakness.

    Gamer tag or **** 🤷 I would be more than happy to show you an unkillable Vader.
  • unit900000
    3943 posts Member
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    Lol if you try to flank me and I hear you if I have choke up I'm going to turn around and choke you before you can react.
    Dont act a fool and you wont get called out. PSN: DarthOdium- old PSN: unit900000 Xbox gamer tag: MetaltronXII
  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    unit900000 wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    Lol if you try to flank me and I hear you if I have choke up I'm going to turn around and choke you before you can react.

    Then I block or dodge said choke.. and the person you where originally focusing on gets to attack you from behind or side.
  • CC_1010
    3728 posts Member
    Hudawg wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    Lol if you try to flank me and I hear you if I have choke up I'm going to turn around and choke you before you can react.

    Then I block or dodge said choke.. and the person you where originally focusing on gets to attack you from behind or side.

    Then I block, jump or doge🥺
  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    You're welcome to see it. We have a surplus of top level Xbox players on the forum that would welcome a:
    1v1
    2v2
    Or
    4v4

    Take your pick. All they need is a gamertag

    So basically you're saying. I can play anyone and easily beat them with Vader? I seriously doubt that.

    Either way, im not looking to constantly fight people because they disagree. I've already had my PMs filled with local yocals telling me to fight them.

    You wanna sit their and keep complaing Vader, that's your choice.

    Im gonna keep saying. Hes not as OP as you and a few others claim he is. And that's because hes not, he's easily flanked and slow. That's the reality of it all.

    Yes, Vader is a beast 1 vs 1. As he should be. But theres also many heroes that can toy with Vader and open up hits/shots by the rest of his team. And since hes slow, this becomes one of Vaders biggest weakness.

    Gamer tag or **** 🤷 I would be more than happy to show you an unkillable Vader.


    Don't have time for fairy tales.. Sorry.
  • Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    You're welcome to see it. We have a surplus of top level Xbox players on the forum that would welcome a:
    1v1
    2v2
    Or
    4v4

    Take your pick. All they need is a gamertag

    So basically you're saying. I can play anyone and easily beat them with Vader? I seriously doubt that.

    Either way, im not looking to constantly fight people because they disagree. I've already had my PMs filled with local yocals telling me to fight them.

    You wanna sit their and keep complaing Vader, that's your choice.

    Im gonna keep saying. Hes not as OP as you and a few others claim he is. And that's because hes not, he's easily flanked and slow. That's the reality of it all.

    Yes, Vader is a beast 1 vs 1. As he should be. But theres also many heroes that can toy with Vader and open up hits/shots by the rest of his team. And since hes slow, this becomes one of Vaders biggest weakness.

    Gamer tag or **** 🤷 I would be more than happy to show you an unkillable Vader.


    Don't have time for fairy tales.. Sorry.

    I'll take that as a duck then🦆
  • Hudawg wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    Lol if you try to flank me and I hear you if I have choke up I'm going to turn around and choke you before you can react.

    Then I block or dodge said choke.. and the person you where originally focusing on gets to attack you from behind or side.

    Except for Vader's three teammates exist...
  • Hudawg wrote: »

    That is your distorted reality dictated by being surrounded by nothing but bad players.

    That's exactly what im think every time you post.

    You start thinking dumb things like Vader is OP and no one can stop him.

    Lmao, if you wish to challenge this fact, come then; do flank me

    Come stop me

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    Gamertag is all it takes

    And now he felt her, really felt her in the Force; He felt a bond, deeper and more intimate than he’d ever had before; and for a precious eternal instant he was her. . . 

    he was the beat of her heart and he was the motion of her lips. He was her soft words as though she spoke a prayer to the stars— I love you, Anakin. In life, and in death, we will always be one. I am yours


  • Feelee6
    2406 posts Member
    edited March 3
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  • BlueSpy3DO
    1211 posts Member
    This got called out quicker than I expected
  • Flamez
    315 posts Member
    make kenobi great again
    Check out my combat guide
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    "Remove the stagger from the game"
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  • Flamez wrote: »
    make kenobi great again

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  • GenxDarchi
    8140 posts Member
    Hudawg wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    Lol if you try to flank me and I hear you if I have choke up I'm going to turn around and choke you before you can react.

    Then I block or dodge said choke.. and the person you where originally focusing on gets to attack you from behind or side.

    Yeah, Then Vader's teammates that people conveniently forget about start demolishing the dude trying to attack Vader from behind.
    You guys are gonna make me rich......
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  • anidriX
    1784 posts Member
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    You're welcome to see it. We have a surplus of top level Xbox players on the forum that would welcome a:
    1v1
    2v2
    Or
    4v4

    Take your pick. All they need is a gamertag

    So basically you're saying. I can play anyone and easily beat them with Vader? I seriously doubt that.

    Either way, im not looking to constantly fight people because they disagree. I've already had my PMs filled with local yocals telling me to fight them.

    You wanna sit their and keep complaing Vader, that's your choice.

    Im gonna keep saying. Hes not as OP as you and a few others claim he is. And that's because hes not, he's easily flanked and slow. That's the reality of it all.

    Yes, Vader is a beast 1 vs 1. As he should be. But theres also many heroes that can toy with Vader and open up hits/shots by the rest of his team. And since hes slow, this becomes one of Vaders biggest weakness.

    Gamer tag or **** 🤷 I would be more than happy to show you an unkillable Vader.


    Don't have time for fairy tales.. Sorry.

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  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    Hudawg wrote: »

    That is your distorted reality dictated by being surrounded by nothing but bad players.

    That's exactly what im think every time you post.

    You start thinking dumb things like Vader is OP and no one can stop him.

    Lmao, if you wish to challenge this fact, come then; do flank me

    Come stop me

    ..You don't seem to get it, and are obviously taking this a bit personally.


    Its YOU YOU YOU!. That's all I read. Seems to be a running theme with you types (Specifically a small group of you). Think your opinion is gospel, get angry when people disagree, think everyone else sucks, start yelping for gamer tags and sending weird PMs.




    Either way, If you focus on one player (Lets say me). You instantly open yourself up to getting flanked or back stabbed. I don't have to be the person to flank you. Its just how the game plays out constantly. Also Vader is slow, and clunky, runs out of juice quick.

    If you play this game and never get flanked, back stabbed or die. Maybe you're just that damn good. Congrats, you're part of the 0.000001%. And even if that was the case (which I highly doubt) then the game should not be catering to those few players.


  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    Lol if you try to flank me and I hear you if I have choke up I'm going to turn around and choke you before you can react.

    Then I block or dodge said choke.. and the person you where originally focusing on gets to attack you from behind or side.

    Yeah, Then Vader's teammates that people conveniently forget about start demolishing the dude trying to attack Vader from behind.

    Oooh, they're already dead. Everyone else just came by to finish off Vader.


    /end of story.
  • CC_1010
    3728 posts Member
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »

    That is your distorted reality dictated by being surrounded by nothing but bad players.

    That's exactly what im think every time you post.

    You start thinking dumb things like Vader is OP and no one can stop him.

    Lmao, if you wish to challenge this fact, come then; do flank me

    Come stop me

    ..You don't seem to get it, and are obviously taking this a bit personally.


    Its YOU YOU YOU!. That's all I read. Seems to be a running theme with you types (Specifically a small group of you). Think your opinion is gospel, get angry when people disagree, think everyone else sucks, start yelping for gamer tags and sending weird PMs.




    Either way, If you focus on one player (Lets say me). You instantly open yourself up to getting flanked or back stabbed. I don't have to be the person to flank you. Its just how the game plays out constantly. Also Vader is slow, and clunky, runs out of juice quick.

    If you play this game and never get flanked, back stabbed or die. Maybe you're just that damn good. Congrats, you're part of the 0.000001%. And even if that was the case (which I highly doubt) then the game should not be catering to those few players.


    Flanking is pretty op man...
  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    CC_1010 wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »

    That is your distorted reality dictated by being surrounded by nothing but bad players.

    That's exactly what im think every time you post.

    You start thinking dumb things like Vader is OP and no one can stop him.

    Lmao, if you wish to challenge this fact, come then; do flank me

    Come stop me

    ..You don't seem to get it, and are obviously taking this a bit personally.


    Its YOU YOU YOU!. That's all I read. Seems to be a running theme with you types (Specifically a small group of you). Think your opinion is gospel, get angry when people disagree, think everyone else sucks, start yelping for gamer tags and sending weird PMs.




    Either way, If you focus on one player (Lets say me). You instantly open yourself up to getting flanked or back stabbed. I don't have to be the person to flank you. Its just how the game plays out constantly. Also Vader is slow, and clunky, runs out of juice quick.

    If you play this game and never get flanked, back stabbed or die. Maybe you're just that damn good. Congrats, you're part of the 0.000001%. And even if that was the case (which I highly doubt) then the game should not be catering to those few players.


    Flanking is pretty op man...

    That's why I use a Soap on Rope.
  • Hudawg wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    A '10 out of 10' player turns nigh unkillable to be fair to your statement

    Never seen that^. Vader is pretty slow and easily flanked. Especially when hes targeted and trying to defend himself.




    Luke is basically the opposite. Fast and easy to get out of bad situations.



    Lol if you try to flank me and I hear you if I have choke up I'm going to turn around and choke you before you can react.

    Then I block or dodge said choke.. and the person you where originally focusing on gets to attack you from behind or side.

    Yeah, Then Vader's teammates that people conveniently forget about start demolishing the dude trying to attack Vader from behind.

    Oooh, they're already dead. Everyone else just came by to finish off Vader.


    /end of story.

    Oh it was that easy to kill Boba, Kylo and Grievous before fighting Vader? What is Vader doing during this time, spectating? Waiting for his 1v4?😂
  • BlueSpy3DO
    1211 posts Member
    This thread is hilariously entertaining
  • ROMG4 wrote: »
    I'm all for keeping Vader as is. Most players in this game are bad players. Bad players are slow and easily flanked. If Vader didn't exist, these players wouldn't be able to survive.

    We need to support the peasants who lack the skill to play the game properly, else the game would chase off most of the bad player community.

    The best solution is to make any one Jedi equal to Vader in stats, so that bad players have a crutch on both sides, trash players won't feel aggravated because their reaction time is slow, and they get flanked whenever they play. Buffing a single Hero to Vader level still balances the factions better, and keeps the trash reaction time community satisfied with their crutch

    Best solution


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  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    Stuff...

    Ain't nobody gonna read all that, or even try to make sense of it.

    Type like a normal person.
  • DiamondxStyles
    2413 posts Member
    edited March 3
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Stuff...

    Ain't nobody gonna read all that, or even try to make sense of it.

    Type like a normal person.

    An organized post formatted efficiently is too difficult for you to read?

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    And now he felt her, really felt her in the Force; He felt a bond, deeper and more intimate than he’d ever had before; and for a precious eternal instant he was her. . . 

    he was the beat of her heart and he was the motion of her lips. He was her soft words as though she spoke a prayer to the stars— I love you, Anakin. In life, and in death, we will always be one. I am yours


  • Hudawg
    428 posts Member
    edited March 4
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Stuff...

    Ain't nobody gonna read all that, or even try to make sense of it.

    Type like a normal person.

    An organized post formatted efficiently is too difficult for you to read?


    If you're going to just mindlessly ramble and rant while posting cringe gifs and pictures, I ain't reading it.


    Hey, if it makes you feel better. Its not you, its me. :wink:
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  • Hudawg wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »
    Stuff...

    Ain't nobody gonna read all that, or even try to make sense of it.

    Type like a normal person.

    An organized post formatted efficiently is too difficult for you to read?


    I concede
    :wink:

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    And now he felt her, really felt her in the Force; He felt a bond, deeper and more intimate than he’d ever had before; and for a precious eternal instant he was her. . . 

    he was the beat of her heart and he was the motion of her lips. He was her soft words as though she spoke a prayer to the stars— I love you, Anakin. In life, and in death, we will always be one. I am yours


  • Or, OR we could just... hear me out!
    make EVERYONE balanced!
    I swear it’s like destiny 1 and 2 all over again with the never ending buff nerf cycle.
    I remember games like halo and cod in the early days where it wasn’t like a never ending kidney stone kind of difficult to get a balanced combat system in a multiplayer game.
  • 0.000001%? 1 in 100 million? Do you believe there are so many players in SWBFII2017?

    Congrats on your rank BTW @DiamondxStyles better then 100 million players out there!
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  • Hudawg wrote: »

    That is your distorted reality dictated by being surrounded by nothing but bad players.

    That's exactly what im think every time you post.

    You start thinking dumb things like Vader is OP and no one can stop him.

    Lmao, if you wish to challenge this fact, come then; do flank me

    Come stop me

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    Gamertag is all it takes

    2 things:
    -I agree with OP, but there was the pre nerf Ani
    -And I love that Emilia Clarke smile pic lol
  • 0.000001%? 1 in 100 million? Do you believe there are so many players in SWBFII2017?

    Congrats on your rank BTW @DiamondxStyles better then 100 million players out there!

    Took tons of hard work, dedication and drive.
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    And now he felt her, really felt her in the Force; He felt a bond, deeper and more intimate than he’d ever had before; and for a precious eternal instant he was her. . . 

    he was the beat of her heart and he was the motion of her lips. He was her soft words as though she spoke a prayer to the stars— I love you, Anakin. In life, and in death, we will always be one. I am yours


  • Rinzler5 wrote: »
    Hudawg wrote: »

    That is your distorted reality dictated by being surrounded by nothing but bad players.

    That's exactly what im think every time you post.

    You start thinking dumb things like Vader is OP and no one can stop him.

    Lmao, if you wish to challenge this fact, come then; do flank me

    Come stop me

    l2rkrjs2mfda.png

    Gamertag is all it takes

    2 things:
    -I agree with OP, but there was the pre nerf Ani
    -And I love that Emilia Clarke smile pic lol

    1. Yes, unfortunately current Vader exists uncontested
    2. LOL me too. She looks so smug and condescending 😁

    And now he felt her, really felt her in the Force; He felt a bond, deeper and more intimate than he’d ever had before; and for a precious eternal instant he was her. . . 

    he was the beat of her heart and he was the motion of her lips. He was her soft words as though she spoke a prayer to the stars— I love you, Anakin. In life, and in death, we will always be one. I am yours


  • I'm all for keeping Vader as is. Most players in this game are bad players. Bad players are slow and easily flanked. If Vader didn't exist, these players wouldn't be able to survive.

    We need to support the peasants who lack the skill to play the game properly, else the game would chase off most of the bad player community.

    The best solution is to make any one Jedi equal to Vader in stats, so that bad players have a crutch on both sides, trash players won't feel aggravated because their reaction time is slow, and they get flanked whenever they play. Buffing a single Hero to Vader level still balances the factions better, and keeps the trash reaction time community satisfied with their crutch

    Best solution

    Could not agree more.
  • bfloo
    17692 posts Member
    So we should take away any incentive for them to improve?
    The Knights of Gareth are Eternal

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  • ROMG4
    5323 posts Member
    edited April 3
    I'm all for keeping Vader as is. Most players in this game are bad players. Bad players are slow and easily flanked. If Vader didn't exist, these players wouldn't be able to survive.

    And you are assuming these potato players are going to be able to play Vader most of the time? You see when you try to make something absurdly strong and skilless to help the poor noobs

    You not only ensure the noobs aren't going to learn how to play and get better, but you also ensure their time will be F A R W O R S E

    Because competent players are going to grab this thing first and farm them to kingdom come. Congratulations you have no only failed at what you were trying to do, but also burned down the game in the process

    We need to support the peasants who lack the skill to play the game properly, else the game would chase off most of the bad player community.
    Casual bottom place players would leave regardless of what you do; they have little investment in the game because they treat it as disposable. They play for a few hours and then leave, if you want to ensure player retention you achieve this by making the game balanced, fair, fun, and give incentive for players to stay so they can actually get good

    What you propose is so contradictory and absurd that I am amazed you believe, THIS decision would be the best option for the game

    The best solution is to make any one Jedi equal to Vader in stats, so that bad players have a crutch on both sides, trash players won't feel aggravated because their reaction time is slow, and they get flanked whenever they play. Buffing a single Hero to Vader level still balances the factions better, and keeps the trash reaction time community satisfied with their crutch
    Best solution
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    In that case, you might as well allow one cheater per team because that is the balance you are getting. The fun and enjoyment of other players are still being crushed because A. There's one player that is going to crush them 9 out of 10 times not because of their experience or skill, but because the character they are using is that strong and tiered above them. B. That means matches are decided because of ONE player using an OP character

    That is not balanced, that is not even close to a satire, that is the most poorly thought out and understood the argument for game design I've seen here on the forum in a long while. Your solution fails to hit any makers and would actively make the game much, worse than it is now, by essentially reducing the rest of the team into mere side-kicks

    You've killed any investment players have been put into heroes by doing this, were you able to make this change. This is not a MOBA; this is not rock paper scissors; this is supposed to be a shooter. These decisions have no place in any MP game and contradict the whole point of having an MP game in the first place


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    OOM-9 FOR LEGO STAR WARS
    OOM-9 Hero Concept by AzelfandQuilava
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    OOM-9 Canonical Material Check-List:

    Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace
    William Shakespeare's The Phantom of Menace: Star Wars Part the First
    Ultimate Star Wars (Reference Guide)
    Star Wars: On the Front Lines (Reference Guide)
    Darth Maul: "Who is supervising the search for the Gungan cities?" Nute Gunray: "Commander OOM-Nine." Darth Maul: "A droid. The predecessor of your inept B-Ones." Rune Haako: "A superior droid, Lord Maul. Viceroy Gunray's personal guard."
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    A OOM-9 Thread!
    https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/152598/the-oom-9-vs-jar-jar-season

    Episode 9's Ending
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  • BlueSpy3DO
    1211 posts Member
    Good lord who resurrected this thread
  • JBSeptim
    1631 posts Member
    I'm all for keeping Vader as is. Most players in this game are bad players. Bad players are slow and easily flanked. If Vader didn't exist, these players wouldn't be able to survive.

    We need to support the peasants who lack the skill to play the game properly, else the game would chase off most of the bad player community.

    The best solution is to make any one Jedi equal to Vader in stats, so that bad players have a crutch on both sides, trash players won't feel aggravated because their reaction time is slow, and they get flanked whenever they play. Buffing a single Hero to Vader level still balances the factions better, and keeps the trash reaction time community satisfied with their crutch

    Best solution

    Great suggestion, I love it! I've really enjoyed reading through this, especially reusing "slow and easily flanked" explicitly was amazing :joy:

    You made one mistake though: you tried to discuss with a certain person here (no naming and shaming, you're smart enough to figure out who I mean) and thought it has a point. There are people you can only harvest Insightfuls when you talk to them. Some cases are hopeless, hope you could enjoy it at least :sweat_smile:
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