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Concussion rocket should not cancel Leia's E-11

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It should pause her ability NOT cancel. The description of his ability says disable blasters for 2 seconds not cancel abilities.

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  • It's a blaster
    Do you know the difference between an error and a mistake? Anyone can make an error. But that error doesn't become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.

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  • Actually don't mind that it cancels the ability knowing how OP it is against blasters :o
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  • Yeah, should just pause the ability, like it does with regular blasters. Same for Deadeye, Furious, etc.

    Yes, but also make sure Shock Spin keeps the effect of removing it. Otherwise BB-9E is gonna have an even harder time.
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  • JMaster
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    A while ago I might have been in support of Boba's Rocket disabling hero blasters to give it some utility... now I'm against that. It's just another nerf to Light side blaster heroes and a buff to the dark side, if Boba's CR also did something like drain some of a Saber heroe's stamina, that'd be one thing, but it just affects them now. Seeing how it affects Leia's premier ability like that is a shame. Oh well.
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  • Landeaux2
    3702 posts Member
    It shouldn’t disable any weapon.
  • MC_XIX
    2419 posts Member
    MikeDog5k wrote: »
    Well, you all wanted a buff to concussion rocket. Now you have it. Are you happy now?
    Don't insightful me, you oughta insightful yourselves.

    This wasn't the buff anyone suggested. It needed a stronger concussion effect, a small amount of damage dealt and possibly even a CC effect on direct hit. Nobody asked for it to disable blasters and abilities by default AFAIK.
  • Doctor_Jones
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    edited March 24
    That's how Boba's concussion rocket works on all heroes & troopers. It disables deadeye, sharpshot, furious bowcaster, undercover team, sharpshooter, everything. If you want to remove his ability to delete the E-11, you're gonna have to make the same change across the board.


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  • Alexios431 wrote: »
    Just like the E-11 shouldn't melt full health heroes in 1.5 seconds.

    You can block it and make Leia melt herself

    Thanks for the confirmation of what i said

  • Raices
    1574 posts Member
    It helps him a great deal in GA so I don't mind.
  • gospa55350
    570 posts Member
    edited March 21
    Boba back up by 3 good DS heroes can be untouchable, target any LS shooter all game long, attack LS shooter only when he/she is less than 20% health to finish them off and easily take first place. I know this well because I've done it many times since concussion/disruption starcard came up.
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  • I'll admit I was a voice for buffing Boba's concussion rocket to make it...well, actually worth something. But on the other hand, i do agree that while overheating blasters is probably fair enough, outright turning abilities off certainly isn't.

    Boba is a pain to get rid of. Its the entire point of his in-game character at this point, his damage isn't great, but he can just keep hitting things and zipping away before anyone can beat his head in for it. Of course, being a flying character, this means that probably his best counter is blaster heroes, which are probably the LS's only advantage at this point.

    Said blaster heroes all have something ( Leia's E11, Han's sharpshooter, Finn's Undercover Team etc) that allows them to get more shots/DPS out when they need to, or in the case of Finn's deadeye and Lando's sharp shot, accurate attacks that can counter Boba quite nicely, considering one of his main strengths is being a absolute pain to hit.

    But now...he can just turn them off. Straight up. Doesn't even need to get close like Obi-wan does with his mind trick, you just fire a missile at almost any range at some blaster hero using their ability and you don't have to worry about that ability for a while. That's a HUGE number of his counters just neutered right there and then. He was enough of a pain even with the aforementioned counter abilities around, now he doesn't even need to worry about those.


    And to people who still think Leia's E-11 is broken...have you forgotten that you can deflect? Give it a try, its all sorts of fun. Unless you are Grievous.

  • Landeaux2 wrote: »
    Just like duelist shouldn't melt full health heroes in 1.5 seconds.

    I fixed that for you so you don’t look foolish.
    I'm pretty sure it kills in less than a second
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  • If it disables shooting, it should disable sabers from attacking.
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  • If it disables shooting, it should disable sabers from attacking.

    My feelings, as well.

    There are enough abilities that bully blaster heroes - would love to see some blaster heroes get ability at bully sabers.
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  • Alexios431 wrote: »
    Just like the E-11 shouldn't melt full health heroes in 1.5 seconds.

    You can block it and make Leia melt herself

    Exactly! People need to stop complaining about her now that she's good. Just time you're blocking and dodging and know when to attack smh 🤦
  • Landeaux2
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    If it disables shooting, it should disable sabers from attacking.

    I would delete the game
  • Genin
    625 posts Member
    I use to ask a buff for Leia and I'm happy that she had it. On the other hand, now, her e11 (Especially with the right starcards) is borderline OP, let's be honest. Now she is one on the best blaster hero by far.
    Boba has an extreme mobility (too much if you ask me) but as tool/damage... Well, nothing special, pretty bad.
    If you remove his "block shock" against e11 he would just have two option: die in 3 seconds or try to run as fast as he can.
    I would definitely _keep_ his concussion ability.
    Then, for boba, I would buff his hp and abilities but nerf his mobility. Too much annoyn when fly, and a garbage when he touch the ground.
  • I disagree because it's a blaster, but what I will say is that Boba definitely needs some type of nerf and I'm trying to figure out what it is that won't make him useless. The guy is just so damn OP in HvV, a good Boba is literally untouchable and controls the entire match. It's super unfair.
  • Genin wrote: »
    I use to ask a buff for Leia and I'm happy that she had it. On the other hand, now, her e11 (Especially with the right starcards) is borderline OP, let's be honest. Now she is one on the best blaster hero by far.
    Boba has an extreme mobility (too much if you ask me) but as tool/damage... Well, nothing special, pretty bad.
    If you remove his "block shock" against e11 he would just have two option: die in 3 seconds or try to run as fast as he can.
    I would definitely _keep_ his concussion ability.
    Then, for boba, I would buff his hp and abilities but nerf his mobility. Too much annoyn when fly, and a garbage when he touch the ground.

    if leia kills you in a 1v1 and you are any DS lightsaber including grievous, then you should stick to Coop exclusively. She's Not borderline Op, just adequate. LS still needs buffs in HvV.
  • Genin wrote: »
    I use to ask a buff for Leia and I'm happy that she had it. On the other hand, now, her e11 (Especially with the right starcards) is borderline OP, let's be honest. Now she is one on the best blaster hero by far.
    Boba has an extreme mobility (too much if you ask me) but as tool/damage... Well, nothing special, pretty bad.
    If you remove his "block shock" against e11 he would just have two option: die in 3 seconds or try to run as fast as he can.
    I would definitely _keep_ his concussion ability.
    Then, for boba, I would buff his hp and abilities but nerf his mobility. Too much annoyn when fly, and a garbage when he touch the ground.

    Han is still the strongest of all LS hero shooter lineup.
  • Genin
    625 posts Member
    gospa55350 wrote: »
    Genin wrote: »
    I use to ask a buff for Leia and I'm happy that she had it. On the other hand, now, her e11 (Especially with the right starcards) is borderline OP, let's be honest. Now she is one on the best blaster hero by far.
    Boba has an extreme mobility (too much if you ask me) but as tool/damage... Well, nothing special, pretty bad.
    If you remove his "block shock" against e11 he would just have two option: die in 3 seconds or try to run as fast as he can.
    I would definitely _keep_ his concussion ability.
    Then, for boba, I would buff his hp and abilities but nerf his mobility. Too much annoyn when fly, and a garbage when he touch the ground.

    Han is still the strongest of all LS hero shooter lineup.

    Probably yes. But asking for other buff for Leia now, it's crazy imo. Now she's really really good, asking for more would be unbalance the game again.
  • Genin
    625 posts Member
    gospa55350 wrote: »
    Genin wrote: »
    I use to ask a buff for Leia and I'm happy that she had it. On the other hand, now, her e11 (Especially with the right starcards) is borderline OP, let's be honest. Now she is one on the best blaster hero by far.
    Boba has an extreme mobility (too much if you ask me) but as tool/damage... Well, nothing special, pretty bad.
    If you remove his "block shock" against e11 he would just have two option: die in 3 seconds or try to run as fast as he can.
    I would definitely _keep_ his concussion ability.
    Then, for boba, I would buff his hp and abilities but nerf his mobility. Too much annoyn when fly, and a garbage when he touch the ground.

    if leia kills you in a 1v1 and you are any DS lightsaber including grievous, then you should stick to Coop exclusively. She's Not borderline Op, just adequate. LS still needs buffs in HvV.

    I'm the one who kills in 1 Vs 1 with Leia. I don't play much with boba because I don't like his actual play stile in the game.
    Since I enjoy a balanced game and I'm not a fanboy, I think that it's fair for boba to block her e11 with the concussion missle.
    I feel guilty how easy I destroy him in seconds, with improve time for the ability and damage reduction of 25%. His only chance is that ability, I don't think that they should remove it.
    They don't need to balance the dark side and the light side... They should balance every single character in the game.
  • Genin wrote: »
    gospa55350 wrote: »
    Genin wrote: »
    I use to ask a buff for Leia and I'm happy that she had it. On the other hand, now, her e11 (Especially with the right starcards) is borderline OP, let's be honest. Now she is one on the best blaster hero by far.
    Boba has an extreme mobility (too much if you ask me) but as tool/damage... Well, nothing special, pretty bad.
    If you remove his "block shock" against e11 he would just have two option: die in 3 seconds or try to run as fast as he can.
    I would definitely _keep_ his concussion ability.
    Then, for boba, I would buff his hp and abilities but nerf his mobility. Too much annoyn when fly, and a garbage when he touch the ground.

    Han is still the strongest of all LS hero shooter lineup.

    Probably yes. But asking for other buff for Leia now, it's crazy imo. Now she's really really good, asking for more would be unbalance the game again.

    It's not necessarily a buff against all other dark side heroes just only towards Boba-fett. These Boba Fett main's get so upset when I take them out so they do the same routine of concussion blast, shoot a few times and then fly away. Repeat.
    His ability should delay my E-11 for the duration not get rid of it. Either fix the ability or DICE needs to rephrase it's description because it's misleading.
  • Genin
    625 posts Member
    Genin wrote: »
    gospa55350 wrote: »
    Genin wrote: »
    I use to ask a buff for Leia and I'm happy that she had it. On the other hand, now, her e11 (Especially with the right starcards) is borderline OP, let's be honest. Now she is one on the best blaster hero by far.
    Boba has an extreme mobility (too much if you ask me) but as tool/damage... Well, nothing special, pretty bad.
    If you remove his "block shock" against e11 he would just have two option: die in 3 seconds or try to run as fast as he can.
    I would definitely _keep_ his concussion ability.
    Then, for boba, I would buff his hp and abilities but nerf his mobility. Too much annoyn when fly, and a garbage when he touch the ground.

    Han is still the strongest of all LS hero shooter lineup.

    Probably yes. But asking for other buff for Leia now, it's crazy imo. Now she's really really good, asking for more would be unbalance the game again.

    It's not necessarily a buff against all other dark side heroes just only towards Boba-fett. These Boba Fett main's get so upset when I take them out so they do the same routine of concussion blast, shoot a few times and then fly away. Repeat.
    His ability should delay my E-11 for the duration not get rid of it. Either fix the ability or DICE needs to rephrase it's description because it's misleading.

    I would nerf the mobility of boba, because it's annoying to play with and to play against him, to be honest.
  • Alexios431 wrote: »
    Just like the E-11 shouldn't melt full health heroes in 1.5 seconds.

    You can block it and make Leia melt herself

    Thanks for the confirmation of what i said

    Being able to block her shots doesn't prove your ridiculous statement, if you get melted by Leia in 1.5 seconds like you said using a lightsaber hero then you suck.
  • gospa55350 wrote: »
    Genin wrote: »
    I use to ask a buff for Leia and I'm happy that she had it. On the other hand, now, her e11 (Especially with the right starcards) is borderline OP, let's be honest. Now she is one on the best blaster hero by far.
    Boba has an extreme mobility (too much if you ask me) but as tool/damage... Well, nothing special, pretty bad.
    If you remove his "block shock" against e11 he would just have two option: die in 3 seconds or try to run as fast as he can.
    I would definitely _keep_ his concussion ability.
    Then, for boba, I would buff his hp and abilities but nerf his mobility. Too much annoyn when fly, and a garbage when he touch the ground.

    Han is still the strongest of all LS hero shooter lineup.

    I kinda agree..... Even though her E-11 is clearly superior to his Sharpshooter, Han's grenade & Shoulder charge is better than Leia's grenades and shield. So Han is still number #1 in the right hands but if it was battle between Han and Leia, Han will have a hard time beating his baby mama 😂
  • The donkey can fly around open maps unscathed so let's go ahead and give him the ability to disable the thing that can knock him out of the sky.

    While 4 heroes are wailing on Vader, doing absolutely no damage, here flies in boba with his disabler and rockets.

  • Just like the E-11 shouldn't melt full health heroes in 1.5 seconds.

    If they ever fix combat roll, which needs fixing so bad, than I would probably agree that her E-11 does a bit too much damage, but for now it's more than fine in my opinion. It allows her to have at least a chance to fight back against lightsaber heroes.
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    It should pause her ability NOT cancel. The description of his ability says disable blasters for 2 seconds not cancel abilities.

    I understand what you’re saying, and agree. Some didn’t understand. Concussion Rocket disables , for its duration, all blasters and blaster abilities, except Leia’s E-11 blaster ability, which it cancels outright, sending it immediately to cooldown.

    This is undoubtedly a bug since no hero abilities single out other individual heroes for special effects.
  • Alexios431 wrote: »
    Just like the E-11 shouldn't melt full health heroes in 1.5 seconds.

    You can block it and make Leia melt herself
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    Leia will melt a saber masher. You need to deflect her shots.


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    It should pause her ability NOT cancel. The description of his ability says disable blasters for 2 seconds not cancel abilities.

    I understand what you’re saying, and agree. Some didn’t understand. Concussion Rocket disables , for its duration, all blasters and blaster abilities, except Leia’s E-11 blaster ability, which it cancels outright, sending it immediately to cooldown.

    This is undoubtedly a bug since no hero abilities single out other individual heroes for special effects.

    Thank you! I'm glad you're aware of this issue also
  • It's actually better that it cancels the ability rather than just stop it. You can keep dpsing with out stopping and the E-11 is not optimal to use against boba abyway.
    I often try to predict/react to the concusion of boba and take out my E-11 at the right timing so I'm sent back to use the pistol with out it overheating.
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  • It's a bit much that it can completely place abilities on CD, I would be okay with it if it just interrupted the ability for a quick second, but completely placing the ability on CD is a bit extreme. His only viable counters aren't counters anymore and those counters get wrecked further by saber heroes when they're hit by the rocket. don't have much way of defending themselves. I didn't think Boba really needed a buff tbh but placing abilities on CD with something you don't even have to be accurate with when flying is a bit of a problem.
  • It does cancel Finn's main weapon too!
  • TheEmperorPalpatine
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    edited March 24
    DoctachCJ wrote: »
    It's a bit much that it can completely place abilities on CD, I would be okay with it if it just interrupted the ability for a quick second, but completely placing the ability on CD is a bit extreme. His only viable counters aren't counters anymore and those counters get wrecked further by saber heroes when they're hit by the rocket. don't have much way of defending themselves. I didn't think Boba really needed a buff tbh but placing abilities on CD with something you don't even have to be accurate with when flying is a bit of a problem.

    It's clearly a bunch of malarkey and should be fixed. There's a clear difference between disable and cancel abilities. Yes, her E-11 is a blaster but it's still one of her abilities not her primary gun. Like @this_old_mouse suggested, if Boba Fett has the right to cancel blaster heroes abilities, he should be able to cancel lightsaber heroes abilities also because blaster heroes already have a hard time, it's just not fair.
  • Ppong_Man12
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    edited March 25
    If it disables shooting, it should disable sabers from attacking.

    Or at least knock them down.
  • If it disables shooting, it should disable sabers from attacking.

    Or at least knock them down.

    Right? Or at least something to compensate because I don't even think his concussion rocket it's supposed to be canceling abilities 🤦
  • If it can disable a blaster it should make a Lightsaber spark out. I am for this change
  • Make concussion rocket cancel lightsabers too. Fair is fair.
  • If it disables shooting, it should disable sabers from attacking.

    Or at least knock them down.
    If it can disable a blaster it should make a Lightsaber spark out. I am for this change
    gospa55350 wrote: »
    Make concussion rocket cancel lightsabers too. Fair is fair.
    This logic is definitely correct, but I don't think it would really solve any problems. If a blaster all of a sudden can't shoot their weapon, they're completely screwed. They have zero mobility, and their abilities either don't stun or have short stuns which are only useful if the target is able to be shot. So all boba has to do is swing by, shoot his concussion rocket, and all of a sudden the blaster hero is dead meat. On the other hand, if a saber hero looses the ability to swing, or heck even block, they can still sneak away from harm with their hyper mobility and strong push abilities. I think the solution is still just to shorten the overheat time on the rocket, and to make sure it doesn't cancel blaster abilities.

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  • If it disables shooting, it should disable sabers from attacking.

    Or at least knock them down.
    If it can disable a blaster it should make a Lightsaber spark out. I am for this change
    gospa55350 wrote: »
    Make concussion rocket cancel lightsabers too. Fair is fair.
    This logic is definitely correct, but I don't think it would really solve any problems. If a blaster all of a sudden can't shoot their weapon, they're completely screwed. They have zero mobility, and their abilities either don't stun or have short stuns which are only useful if the target is able to be shot. So all boba has to do is swing by, shoot his concussion rocket, and all of a sudden the blaster hero is dead meat. On the other hand, if a saber hero looses the ability to swing, or heck even block, they can still sneak away from harm with their hyper mobility and strong push abilities. I think the solution is still just to shorten the overheat time on the rocket, and to make sure it doesn't cancel blaster abilities.

    And that is exactly the reason why they need to fix this ability, it shouldn't cancel abilities anyway!
  • I agree, it's annoying when you are in a 3v1 but holding your own and then boba comes in and screws you over, change it sure, whatever, just don't touch saber heroes or we will see hundreds of posts made about it.
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