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Yoda is supposed to be powerful and therefore needs a buff

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  • quark
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    Iv only got to complains about Yoda. 1. Shouldnt he have the most health of all? Grand master and all...give him 800-900 health.
    2. His unleash is so bugged. Please make it work over 50% of the time.
  • JBSeptim
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    quark wrote: »
    2. His unleash is so bugged. Please make it work over 50% of the time.

    Yeah, that'd be nice.
  • GenxDarchi
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    ROMG4 wrote: »
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    Yoda should be portrayed better. It's only good in the hands of people who excel with him. Also his Presence needs to get fixed, using it and not giving teammates health happens all the time.

    If the people who excel with him can figure him out, so can the rest of you.

    I mean I excel at playing Obi-Wan, doesn't mean his kit isn't bad or that he needs buffs. Just because someone is good at playing a subpar character does not mean that character isn't subpar.
    It could also mean that the character isn't bad or in need of attention

    It could, but when I play Obi Wan, I usually have worse chances of winning a fight than if I was Luke. When you know you could have won a fight if you used a different lightsaber, it usually means that one is worse than the other. Same goes with Yoda in my book, if we are talking about support. I could support my team with Yoda, but I could support them even more if I used someone like Finn. Yoda has no real place he excels at, other than being able to break guards, as his support is only useful for breaking himself out of a stun. He is a subpar hero, he can be made to look fantastic if the player who uses him is excellent, but that does not mean the character is good, just that the player is exceptional.

    Oh no Obi-Wan is fundamentally a boring and uninteresting character when he is functioning properly. His kit is designed in such a way that its useless if weak and simply irritating to fight against if strong

    Obi wan's mind-trick could work if it was a single or double target ability. But than you have the problem of it making the lives of blaster heroes even more annoying and unfun

    I am firmly in the camp that Obi-Wan as a hero needs to be completely retooled with all of his abilities tossed out in favor of better and more mechanically interesting ones. Its not fun to fight against a character that can disable all your powers nor is it fun to play a hero balanced around said single ability

    But this discussion isn't about Obi-Wan its about Yoda. For me I believe Yoda is in the best place hes been in since launch, hes got great self and team sustain, the ability to counter stuns, the height advantage. He's got a great number of passive and direct stats added to his kit. The only thing that needs to be touched are the prevalence of stuns and the button mash meta

    You'll find it a lot easier to play all Heroes when this is done.
    I agree, Obi is incredibly frustrating to fight depending on who is playing him. But on Yoda’s part, he’s easily in a worse place than he was. Less dash attack damage, buffing on Presence bugs out if Finn is active/and Unleash is still the weakest of the pushes. In my opinion Yoda is as irritating as Obi. He loses any direct engagement against anybody but Maul, and his support is less reliable than Finn’s. He’s in a okay spot, but isn’t at all a viable pick for HvV. He has no spot in the game where he isn’t outdone.

    Besides, we all know DICE is not going to change the meta. Stubs are going to remain as prevalent as they are, they’d have to rework everybody, and they aren’t going to.
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  • ROMG4
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    But on Yoda’s part, he’s easily in a worse place than he was. Less dash attack damage
    And at the benefit of being able to pierce any Light-Saber block with his dash attack. A trait of which is a huge advantage for him in oppressing low-health enemies, finishing off other players and preventing them from being able to regenerate in a fight against Yoda or another hero
    buffing on Presence bugs out if Finn is active
    Thats a bug, not a balancing issue
    and Unleash is still the weakest of the pushes.
    Mainly due to hit detection errors and other such issues. Unleash is still an incredibly strong ability with the potential to WIPE OUT an entire room full of enemies. Something of which yoda doesn't even need to put himself in the thick of things to do, simply stand in a door and kablooey. Everyone gets destroyed just from one dude charging it up
    In my opinion Yoda is as irritating as Obi. He loses any direct engagement against anybody but Maul, and his support is less reliable than Finn’s. He’s in a okay spot, but isn’t at all a viable pick for HvV. He has no spot in the game where he isn’t outdone.

    That's because you need to learn you cannot fight with Yoda like you would other saber heroes. You have to learn how to combo attack strings from normal, dash strikes, aerial strikes, you have to learn how to use Yoda's mobility and small size to defeat the enemy. Yoda doesn't beat enemies by button mashing like Luke and Vader he beats them through actually planning ahead and using his abilities to the best

    Yoda is one of the best heroes in the game when you know how to play him
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