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What about dealing with cheating in Star Wars Battlefront

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AltoJun
66 posts Member
I am a Star Wars fan and love all games that exist in this realm, including this one. It lacks content and offline modes but still is fun. The issue here, and its and escalating problem, is that people are leaving because of the increasing number of cheaters / hackers in the game, spoiling all the fun. I'm refering to PC game version, where I play.
So, producers, despite you're focused in the new Battlefront II, that I hope it will become an amazing game, you should pay attention to this one too. People paid you money to play and have fun in this game and they're not suceeding, so they're leaving. One of these days, this game will be unplayable because of not enough players, and there is no offline alternative!
What now, producers?
As I see it, we have two options: join the cheating community and cheat or give up. People with good sense and honor are giving up. I am not giving up yet, but I not joining any cheater...

Any time now it's game over...
I would like to know what you, producers, think about this and if you are planning doing something about it.

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  • It really is disgraceful how much hacking and cheating takes place in the PC Version of the game. What is more disgraceful is that no one seems to care: not the cheaters, the game creators, or even other players!
  • Celorfiwyn
    16 posts Member
    edited May 2017
    Couldn't have implement a basic scan thingy, which would snap out any with non-comformative (sp?) codes they've entered?
    Post edited by ThePoolshark on
  • AltoJun
    66 posts Member
    Will anybody from EA or DICE ever answer to this? They say that they read what it's writen in this forum, but if so when will they give us an answer? It seems like we're talking to a wall...
    I know they now have BFII to put in the market, and from wich they hope to make millions, but I wont participate in that if they do not attend to the claims in this game.

    We need answers, somebody who comes forward and say "we are working in an update for the game", for starters. Is that so hard?
  • AltoJun
    66 posts Member
    EA and DICE:
    I find your lack of communication disturbing.
  • Several incidents of it again last night. Once again, the cheating has gotten so blatant, because no one is fearing anr reprecussions from EA/Dice
  • What about Fairfight ban? It seems to be a very basic level of anti-cheat.

    Yes cheating is awful and very frustrating, I feel your pain. It's not as bad these days, but still happens in my experience.

    I agree they should fix this. They're not new to writing games, so you'd think they would have something more solid in place to prevent cheating.

    Given how EA is all about the money, I doubt they're going to implement anything now. They're resources are focused on BF2. Hopefully they'll have better anticheat there.
  • Wow...

    A topic with complaints... and it hasn't been deleted yet. I am stunned...

  • No problem, no buy from me or my friends for Battlefront 2. Why buy when it's obvious the community is ignored.

    All they do is erase threads like this, problem solved.
  • Never understand why people cheat. I wouldnt enjoy the game at all if I had to cheat to get anywhere with it. I win. I lose. I enjoy it either way.
  • AltoJun
    66 posts Member
    Corndog75 wrote: »
    Never understand why people cheat. I wouldnt enjoy the game at all if I had to cheat to get anywhere with it. I win. I lose. I enjoy it either way.

    I agree with you, but I dont enjoy loosing for cheaters.

  • There was a hacker yesterday. All i did was activating my shield and standing in front of him or constantly trying to block his movement and shooting him. After a while he got annoyed and left :)
  • There was a hacker yesterday. All i did was activating my shield and standing in front of him or constantly trying to block his movement and shooting him. After a while he got annoyed and left :)
  • People cheat because they are not banned or punished.

    Ban for 2-3 months or forever the cheater's account with ALL GAMES, you will see how they think twice before using those **** cheats.

    Ban forever also brings a new sale for EA/Dice, cause the **** script kiddie will buy game again.

  • You should have seen the cheating in this PC Bespin game last night. It was absolutely disgraceful!
  • AltoJun
    66 posts Member
    EA should take measures against those sites publishing hacking and cheating material and shut them down.
    Anyway, I believe those hacks exist because there are flaws in the game that permits that exploitation. Besides the anticheat software that should work better, they should eliminate those flaws in the first place.
  • Anyone caught cheating should have there Lisence revoked, and should be forced to buy the game again.
  • AltoJun
    66 posts Member
    Just a video that proves clearly that FairFight is worthless.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=G4CCTZsvKP0

  • AltoJun
    66 posts Member
    I'm a little confused. I know i'm not a good player, but when I'm using a good gun, like CA-87, aim and shoot at the enemy at close range and he suffers but doesnt die, and then he, with an EE-4 and not berserker trait, one shot kills me, I start thinking two things: I'm really bad at this or he is using aimbot or damage hack.
    But I can't be sure, so I dont report him. So what do I do? How can I be sure? This is very annoying.
    Can anyone clear my mind about this?
  • bfloo
    10644 posts Member
    AltoJun wrote: »
    I'm a little confused. I know i'm not a good player, but when I'm using a good gun, like CA-87, aim and shoot at the enemy at close range and he suffers but doesnt die, and then he, with an EE-4 and not berserker trait, one shot kills me, I start thinking two things: I'm really bad at this or he is using aimbot or damage hack.
    But I can't be sure, so I dont report him. So what do I do? How can I be sure? This is very annoying.
    Can anyone clear my mind about this?

    Aim for the head with the Ca-87
  • bfloo wrote: »
    AltoJun wrote: »
    I'm a little confused. I know i'm not a good player, but when I'm using a good gun, like CA-87, aim and shoot at the enemy at close range and he suffers but doesnt die, and then he, with an EE-4 and not berserker trait, one shot kills me, I start thinking two things: I'm really bad at this or he is using aimbot or damage hack.
    But I can't be sure, so I dont report him. So what do I do? How can I be sure? This is very annoying.
    Can anyone clear my mind about this?

    Aim for the head with the Ca-87


    Umm, which gun should you NOT aim for the head?!?!
  • I realize this thread is about pc and I play on PS4 but here's what I've noticed: I think a lot of times it's an issue with their servers/connection speed and their animations. What I thought was another player one shotting me after I've unloaded many shots without damaging them was really due to this lag issue. In reality they had already shot me a few times but the animations didn't register quick enough. There are some games where anyone and everyone kills me with ease and I can't damage them. If I wait around for a few games or quit and join a different game it seems like I have that advantage. I'm sure people cheat. Jump sniping is cheating to me ;) but I get what you're saying about not being sure if someone is blatantly cheating
  • AltoJun
    66 posts Member
    How can I tell if there is lag? The animation seems to run smoothly. When I have a bad connection there is a warning in the up right corner and the animation starts jumping, but in this case there's none of this. So how can we be sure?
  • AltoJun wrote: »
    I'm a little confused. I know i'm not a good player, but when I'm using a good gun, like CA-87, aim and shoot at the enemy at close range and he suffers but doesnt die, and then he, with an EE-4 and not berserker trait, one shot kills me, I start thinking two things: I'm really bad at this or he is using aimbot or damage hack.
    But I can't be sure, so I dont report him. So what do I do? How can I be sure? This is very annoying.
    Can anyone clear my mind about this?

    The EE-4 is an overpowered blaster in the right hands. A quick 2 bursts at close range will kill.

    Clip below is me getting killed by an EE-4, no cheating involved. Even though I had the drop on him in a split second I was dead.



    In this clip my opponent is indeed cheating. The first part of the clip I was at full health plus bacta and we both were using SE-14C blasters. I got in the first shot but he killed me with one blast. Second part he just one-shotted me with an RT97-C.


    Keep an eye on your health. There have been times when I got killed and I thought it was cheating but on review my health wasn't maxed out and that's why I died quickly.
  • Once again, the hackers were out for those playing Bepsin on the PC last night. There is no enforcement of the rules, and loyal customers are paying for it.
  • The long distance headshots with the EE3 are the one I'm noticing the most now. The weapon is supposed to be horrible at long range, even if you use focus fire the shots spread out randomly. But There was a guy parked on top of one of the buildings head-shotting with the EE3 (and combat rolling around the domed roof, which is a joke as well)
  • During the last weeks the cheaters spread too much... one day, the Outer Rim was infested. We couldn't even walk and we died. It was really annoying. The day before, I met other hackers in Tatooine: they had modified Han Solo so he could run faster than The Flash! At first it was even funny, but it became irritating... then, I became Jyn Erso, and the Emperor killed me in less than three seconds!
    Moreover, I can't understand one thing: it often happens that I can't destroy a vechicle (a simple TIE-fighter) because its health is endless... I suspect it's hacking.
    I know this videogame is poor about contents and has several bad features, but I've been enjoying it for a year, and I've loved it and it's still more than funny for me.
    How do they hack? How is it possible? It's no fun.
  • NurKenobi
    24 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    Oh! And two days ago I was playing Supremacy on Hoth, and it was the longest match I've ever played... someone had hacked the timer so everytime a control point was conquered, the time started over. One single match lasted at least 40 minutes...
    I know that we can report the hackers on Origin. We can take note about their nickname, search for their profile and report the hack. But I don't know how much can be useful...
  • MataSplat wrote: »
    You should have seen the cheating in this PC Bespin game last night. It was absolutely disgraceful!

    What happened? :o
  • AltoJun
    66 posts Member
    You should always report the hackers and cheaters no matter what. This way EA and DICE will get to know for real how much cheating there is in this game.
  • s0da72
    15 posts Member
    If they wanted to do something about the PC hack issues it would have been done over a year ago. It's not like they needed to reinvent the wheel. They could have implemented a few simple things that other multiplayer games have done in the past, but choose not to do so. Anyone holding out on hope that battlefront II will someone how be different I wouldn't count on it. They have not released any statements about the new multiplayer being any different with battlefront II. So expect more of the same.
  • Cheaters in Battlefront are getting out of hand.. 50% of the games I enter are with at least one cheater. All of them just shooting on directions and always making a headshot. We all spent a nice amount of money for the game and we had a little fun. Now the game being ruined and unplayable by the cheaters.
  • but the thing about cheating is that ea doesn't give a flying fig about them

    I remember way back when the beta came out ardy or muselk was filming the beta after going live for 20 mins which is all so when the first round of WA came to an end

    where Xx_PWN_NUBS_xX n his friends GIT GUD n GIT WRKT topped the imperial score board at 500 kills each all 3 of them using aimbot
  • AltoJun
    66 posts Member
    EA said no to modding in Battlefront, something that would in fact add value to the game. So why EA doesnt also says no to hacking, wich is ruining this game since the beta version?
  • But what do they gotta cheat for? Why do they have to cheat? What does that prove?
  • MataSplat wrote: »
    But what do they gotta cheat for? Why do they have to cheat? What does that prove?

    it proves that your MLG bc look at my 35973439743.0 kdr
  • MrAngryBates
    86 posts Member
    edited July 2017
    @AltoJun and others complaining: Your best option is to stop playing this game and NOT to buy the upcoming Battlefront 2. There is no indication, that DICE/EA will take any measures in the next game to improve this situation on the PC. I don't know, maybe they are just incapable of dealing with cheaters or they just don't care after they got your money. The lack of communication speaks for itself. Anyway, you payed for an experience that you don't got. So next time, speak with your wallet.
  • After several dozen hours playing Battlefront on the PC (I got off to a late start), I now feel like an **** for preordering the deluxe edition of the Battlefront II release. The hacking in this game is ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE. I would say 1 out of every 3 games is ruined by some ****, on the opposite team or my own,
    running around one-shotting people are using some other sort of hack to assist their play. Everyone says "report the user". What good does that do? The game session is ruined. Nothing is done immediately, that same user can then ruin subsequent games, forcing everyone to leave the game. From what I've read in the forums, very few people who get reported are banned and the last game I was in, the hacker laughed at everyone saying "report him" because they've now apparently found a way to game the hardware ID information in the registry as well as the 4 hour promotional accounts.

    I'm sick of it. Seriously, EA, you either need to better police your games with anticheat software or you need to allow players to self-police and kick-ban other users by majority vote. The current process for reporting makes my gaming experience even WORSE. I don't want to be taken out of a game to report someone and then watch them continue to ruin the game session anyway. It can be as simple as allowing us to hit the tab button to bring up the scorecard and then click on a radio button next to the name of the player believed to be cheating. Once enough players have clicked that button, the system steps in and looks at the users session stats and automatically kick banning the user when certain criteria are met such as out of balance kill/death ratio, nearly perfect shooting %, damage taken versus damage expected, etc. If I go through this same sort of nonsense with Battlefield 1 (which I also just bought) as well as Battlefront II when it comes out, I'm going to be irate.
  • It's why I'm going to play on console to be sure. Still can happen; but it requires a lot more work to be hacked to risk getting banned
  • After one month of writing here about cheaters in several threads that were deleted by admin, I realized that nobody will fix this, they don't even have the dignity (admins or devs, yes, you) to let us know that they are working to stop the cheaters.
    Then, I cancelled the pre-order for Battlefront 2 Deluxe. It may be a fun game but I don't pay to entertain cheaters anymore.
    Also uninstalled all Origin games. Thanks, admins.
  • Evazan127
    7806 posts Member
    Blah blah.... Please use the search feature
  • I agree - just played several rounds today with AT-AT assault - on each server a new hacker - no hero thing or plane boy - no running dude that hit perfect headshots from a far with T21. Reported 3-4 players - but most likely nothing will happen here - but at least I'm telling myself that if I don't do that then EA/Dice for sure will not know.

    And no - most likely the SW BF 2 is not on my buy list - just because of the hack thing + they dont care. Wonder here - are hacking just as bad on other games ?

  • mallocfailed
    105 posts Member
    edited July 2017
    @AltoJun and others complaining: Your best option is to stop playing this game and NOT to buy the upcoming Battlefront 2. There is no indication, that DICE/EA will take any measures in the next game to improve this situation on the PC. I don't know, maybe they are just incapable of dealing with cheaters or they just don't care after they got your money. The lack of communication speaks for itself. Anyway, you payed for an experience that you don't got. So next time, speak with your wallet.

    I game on both PC and console, and in cases like these I choose MP gaming on console. Sure, it's nowhere near as precise as kbd+mouse, but there's almost never a concern about cheating since the platforms are relatively closed. It takes a LOT more effort (like MITM, etc) to cheat effectively. All my Battlefield games are on console, and have been for years. (Then again, I also have a sizeable list of reliable squadmates, and that's priceless on any platform -- way more important that cheating concerns, really...)

    [...and this should dredge up a nice little troll war...]
  • I've seen quiet a few hackers on droid run ps4 all running se-14c where they never miss the entire burst and it's quiet obvious they are looking through walls
  • Defo the last EA game im buying,,cheatings horrible,UN_MAVRIK blatant cheats everygame never banned...DEFO NOT BUYING BF2..EA take your money then RUN.
  • Until I see some proof of Anti-Cheating functionality in BattleFront2, I am not buying the game. Battlefront is disgusting right now, as it is absolutely riddled with cheaters. All the do is hack and cheat, cheat and hack, hack and cheat!
  • YODA100
    707 posts Member
    I'm a cheater. Hahah!
  • YODA100
    707 posts Member
    Bacta Bomb will do the job for the chaters. Huhuehue.
  • Evazan127
    7806 posts Member
    edited July 2017
    I agree - just played several rounds today with AT-AT assault - on each server a new hacker - no hero thing or plane boy - no running dude that hit perfect headshots from a far with T21. Reported 3-4 players - but most likely nothing will happen here - but at least I'm telling myself that if I don't do that then EA/Dice for sure will not know.

    And no - most likely the SW BF 2 is not on my buy list - just because of the hack thing + they dont care. Wonder here - are hacking just as bad on other games ?

    Yes battlefield PC has the same problem. I think bans are handed out occasionally unlike battlefront.
  • JigglybeanTV
    1093 posts Member
    edited July 2017
    MataSplat wrote: »
    It really is disgraceful how much hacking and cheating takes place in the PC Version of the game. What is more disgraceful is that no one seems to care: not the cheaters, the game creators, or even other players!

    That is actually wrong. The players did care but became sick of reporting hackers without any action happening for MONTHS.

    If EA decide not to discuss how they are going to deal with hackers this time around, I won't be buying SWBF EA 2 as there's no way I am pouring money down an EA drain again. And honestly, if you buy it, you have zero right to complain, as you know full well what to expect.
  • This Game is full with Cheaters ! and Dice or EA do nothing against Cheaters. **** off Dice ... we payed so many Money and the Game is after 1 Year. Sad but true !
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