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The Last Jedi Discussion Thread

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Trooper8059
9493 posts Member
edited July 15


With D23 giving us a new behind-the-scenes look at The Last Jedi, I thought now might be a good time to start a thread focused solely on the film.

At the time of posting, we are a little less than six months from release!

What are your thoughts on the new trailer or The Last Jedi in general?
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  • Cad_Bane
    3138 posts Member
    edited July 15
    Probably will be a good movie but a good Star Wars movie? I don't know. I keep hearing the same thing, that the movie is different and unexpected and it just makes me think it will seem more like it's own movie than I Star Wars movie that fits in well with the rest. Also the creatures don't look like something you would see but maybe it's just me...
  • Cad_Bane wrote: »
    Probably will be a good movie but a good Star Wars movie? I don't know. I keep hearing the same thing, that the movie is different and unexpected and it just makes me think it will seem more like it's own movie than I Star Wars movie that fits in well with the rest. Also the creatures don't look like something you would see but maybe it's just me...

    I agree. I have no doubt the movie will be good, the director did a great job on Looper, but i'm not sure if it'll capture that Star Wars feel.

    With The Force Awakens, you had the feeling it was a Star Wars movie, but only because it borrowed so heavily from the previous films. I just hope they didn't take that criticism to a point where it'll be hard to believe in what happens.

    Mark Hamill disagreed with the direction that Luke takes in the film, which concerns me.
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  • Cad_Bane
    3138 posts Member
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    Probably will be a good movie but a good Star Wars movie? I don't know. I keep hearing the same thing, that the movie is different and unexpected and it just makes me think it will seem more like it's own movie than I Star Wars movie that fits in well with the rest. Also the creatures don't look like something you would see but maybe it's just me...

    I agree. I have no doubt the movie will be good, the director did a great job on Looper, but i'm not sure if it'll capture that Star Wars feel.

    With The Force Awakens, you had the feeling it was a Star Wars movie, but only because it borrowed so heavily from the previous films. I just hope they didn't take that criticism to a point where it'll be hard to believe in what happens.

    Mark Hamill disagreed with the direction that Luke takes in the film, which concerns me.

    Yeah exactly. I just want it to have a Star Wars feel to it, even the prequels were very different than the OT but still had a Star Wars feel to them. Also, apparently mark hamill, after reading the script, got something's changed about the direction they was taking his character. Apparently there was some tension between him and the director, they had a long conversation about the movie and came to an agreement after some stuff was changed
  • The focus on red makes me believe Crait will play a significant role in the film.
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  • DarthJ
    2936 posts Member
    I'm torn. I should be excited for a new Star Wars film. But the more I watch TFA back the more I spot that is wrong with it. And you can't get past the fact it is just episode 4 again (even down to trying its own cantina element). I worry that it will stick to too similar a story to TESB. Now I understand there will be similar elements, being the middle film of the trilogy, that the villains will gain an upper hand here going into the last film. But I want it to go in its own direction, but stick to having a Star Wars feel. However, rumours of the FO finding and attacking the Resistance base at the start, even down to walkers - all suggesting this will be TESB 2.0.

    I also pray they avoid the Anakin reincarnated rumour that went around, it will put me off this and future films massively.

    Hopefully Mark has ensured Luke will be great.
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  • I think Mark H. clarified comments about not agreeing with the direction his character takes, I also think Disney has set the precedent about making absolutely 100% sure that the movies have that "Star Wars Feel" about them. If you aren't getting the job done, they'll come in to help (Darth Vader scene in Rogue One), or aren't afraid to change directions completely (e.g., Ron Howard on the Han Solo movie). "Star Wars" itself is moving in new directions; What is good and evil? They've started to tread into humanizing the Empire, and it may not be the Star Wars we were all expecting, but maybe it's the Star Wars we need....
    In 1977, a single shot rang out at the Cantina.... No first, no second. Han shot - end of statement.
  • Cad_Bane wrote: »
    Probably will be a good movie but a good Star Wars movie? I don't know. I keep hearing the same thing, that the movie is different and unexpected and it just makes me think it will seem more like it's own movie than I Star Wars movie that fits in well with the rest. Also the creatures don't look like something you would see but maybe it's just me...

    I agree. I have no doubt the movie will be good, the director did a great job on Looper, but i'm not sure if it'll capture that Star Wars feel.

    With The Force Awakens, you had the feeling it was a Star Wars movie, but only because it borrowed so heavily from the previous films. I just hope they didn't take that criticism to a point where it'll be hard to believe in what happens.

    Mark Hamill disagreed with the direction that Luke takes in the film, which concerns me.
    Nah man, it's alright.
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  • WarfareKiller41
    4156 posts Member
    edited July 16
    The focus on red makes me believe Crait will play a significant role in the film.
    Well I found this.
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  • Cad_Bane
    3138 posts Member
    George has been spotted on set
  • ROMG4
    2049 posts Member
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    Probably will be a good movie but a good Star Wars movie? I don't know. I keep hearing the same thing, that the movie is different and unexpected and it just makes me think it will seem more like it's own movie than I Star Wars movie that fits in well with the rest. Also the creatures don't look like something you would see but maybe it's just me...

    Ultimately it's simply a Doom If They do and Doom if they don't

    If they make it too similar to Previous Star Wars than they will get the same complaints about The Force Awakens but this time only magnified. if they make it go too far away from Past Tradition than they will get the "Bad Sequel" Hate, so they have some obstacles to clear I guess. but as clearly shown with Rogue One I have simply no fear as to whether or not it will have a Star Wars feel

    And as for the regards of "Star Wars Fitting" how well Does Revenge Of The Sith go with Star Wars A New Hope? they are almost completely different movies but each have a Star Wars feel like you later say

    Ultimately the fear of whether or not it stays true is ultimately in your head. Marketing very rarely displays a movie well in my opinion, especially when you consider that just a few weeks ago people were still paranoid it would be Episode 5.05 and now it has supposedly strayed too far?
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  • johnny_mercury
    2713 posts Member
    edited July 17
    I'm excited for TLJ. Change is good and after TFA getting criticism (from fans at least) of being derivative of the OT I think a departure is necessary.

    As someone who was a kid during the OT, The Phantom Menace, and subsequent films, were a lot different by comparison. Aside from poor writing and spotty acting, the PT enhanced the universe and made it bigger than ever.

    I'm excited to see new worlds, meet new characters and see new background characters.

    One of the prominent uses of red, as it would most likely apply in a Star Wars film, is to show danger and anger. I think this will put one or more characters in perilous, maybe mortal, situations. It could be Luke, I'm kind of expecting it.

    Canto B.ight has me excited - casino city or planet with intergalactic renaissance aristocratics and aliens...sounds good to me. Maybe see some Sabacc???

    The forums censored B.ight????


  • Cad_Bane
    3138 posts Member
    ROMG4 wrote: »
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    Probably will be a good movie but a good Star Wars movie? I don't know. I keep hearing the same thing, that the movie is different and unexpected and it just makes me think it will seem more like it's own movie than I Star Wars movie that fits in well with the rest. Also the creatures don't look like something you would see but maybe it's just me...

    Ultimately it's simply a Doom If They do and Doom if they don't

    If they make it too similar to Previous Star Wars than they will get the same complaints about The Force Awakens but this time only magnified. if they make it go too far away from Past Tradition than they will get the "Bad Sequel" Hate, so they have some obstacles to clear I guess. but as clearly shown with Rogue One I have simply no fear as to whether or not it will have a Star Wars feel

    And as for the regards of "Star Wars Fitting" how well Does Revenge Of The Sith go with Star Wars A New Hope? they are almost completely different movies but each have a Star Wars feel like you later say

    Ultimately the fear of whether or not it stays true is ultimately in your head. Marketing very rarely displays a movie well in my opinion, especially when you consider that just a few weeks ago people were still paranoid it would be Episode 5.05 and now it has supposedly strayed too far?

    You are missing the point, nobody is asking for them to copy the events of ESB just so it has a Star Wars feel. Copying events from a movie doesn't give it a Star Wars feel. We are simply asking it to stay true to what the other movies were about and add a continuation of the other movies so it feels like they are continuing a story, not starting from scratch. The TFA didn't feel like a Star Wars movie since it didn't fit in well with the movies. It seemed if everything that happened in the OT was thrown out the window, All character development was destroyed. Why create a new story line that makes the events of the OT seem pointless
  • I'm excited for TLJ. Change is good and after TFA getting criticism (from fans at least) of being derivative of the OT I think a departure is necessary.

    As someone who was a kid during the OT, The Phantom Menace, and subsequent films, were a lot different by comparison. Aside from poor writing and spotty acting, the PT enhanced the universe and made it bigger than ever.

    I'm excited to see new worlds, meet new characters and see new background characters.

    One of the prominent uses of red, as it would most likely apply in a Star Wars film, is to show danger and anger. I think this will put one or more characters in perilous, maybe mortal, situations. It could be Luke, I'm kind of expecting it.

    Canto B.ight has me excited - casino city or planet with intergalactic renaissance aristocratics and aliens...sounds good to me. Maybe see some Sabacc???

    The forums censored B.ight????


    I'm excited too. A lot of commotion about Mark Hamill suggesting his character takes unexpected turns that he originally didn't agree with, and Daisy Ridley suggesting meeting your heroes isn't always what it's cracked up to be. But remember how exciting it was watching ESB, and how Luke was going to go meet the Jedi Master that trained Obi-Wan!? Yoda turned out to be something completely different, and it was because he saw a bigger picture. I think we'll see something similar with Luke in the TLJ, but I think he's going to see the bigger BIGGER picture. Yoda and Obi-Wan both thought Luke should destroy Vader; Luke saw something else entirely....
    In 1977, a single shot rang out at the Cantina.... No first, no second. Han shot - end of statement.
  • Jarrad
    2270 posts Member
    Han_Spinel wrote: »
    I'm excited for TLJ. Change is good and after TFA getting criticism (from fans at least) of being derivative of the OT I think a departure is necessary.

    As someone who was a kid during the OT, The Phantom Menace, and subsequent films, were a lot different by comparison. Aside from poor writing and spotty acting, the PT enhanced the universe and made it bigger than ever.

    I'm excited to see new worlds, meet new characters and see new background characters.

    One of the prominent uses of red, as it would most likely apply in a Star Wars film, is to show danger and anger. I think this will put one or more characters in perilous, maybe mortal, situations. It could be Luke, I'm kind of expecting it.

    Canto B.ight has me excited - casino city or planet with intergalactic renaissance aristocratics and aliens...sounds good to me. Maybe see some Sabacc???

    The forums censored B.ight????


    I'm excited too. A lot of commotion about Mark Hamill suggesting his character takes unexpected turns that he originally didn't agree with, and Daisy Ridley suggesting meeting your heroes isn't always what it's cracked up to be. But remember how exciting it was watching ESB, and how Luke was going to go meet the Jedi Master that trained Obi-Wan!? Yoda turned out to be something completely different, and it was because he saw a bigger picture. I think we'll see something similar with Luke in the TLJ, but I think he's going to see the bigger BIGGER picture. Yoda and Obi-Wan both thought Luke should destroy Vader; Luke saw something else entirely....

    I think Mark Hamill was disappointed that Luke didn't get to have his New Jedi Order and, seemingly, does not want to fight back, but rather, wants to give up on the galaxy and be a hermit instead on Ach-To.

    I believe that that is what also Daisy Ridley was talking about, that people expect Luke to be a great Jedi that wants to help his friends and defeat the First Order and the Knights of Ren, but, instead, the tragedy of losing his nephew, Ben, to the dark side and also losing his New Jedi Order has most likely made Luke a cynic and, possibly, bitter, as a result, and now Luke doesn't even want to bother in doing anything.

    However, though, Luke will probably be inspired by Rey and decide to help train her to defeat Kylo Ren and the First Order, although he might be reluctant and hesitant at first.

    Also, I'm really excited for that Land Battle between the First Order Gorilla Heavy Walkers and Resistance Skimmer Speeders on Crait.
  • Jarrad wrote: »

    I think Mark Hamill was disappointed that Luke didn't get to have his New Jedi Order and, seemingly, does not want to fight back, but rather, wants to give up on the galaxy and be a hermit instead on Ach-To.

    I believe that that is what also Daisy Ridley was talking about, that people expect Luke to be a great Jedi that wants to help his friends and defeat the First Order and the Knights of Ren, but, instead, the tragedy of losing his nephew, Ben, to the dark side and also losing his New Jedi Order has most likely made Luke a cynic and, possibly, bitter, as a result, and now Luke doesn't even want to bother in doing anything.

    However, though, Luke will probably be inspired by Rey and decide to help train her to defeat Kylo Ren and the First Order, although he might be reluctant and hesitant at first.

    Also, I'm really excited for that Land Battle between the First Order Gorilla Heavy Walkers and Resistance Skimmer Speeders on Crait.

    Yes x 1000 to the battle of Crait - I think this will easily be one of the more stunning aspects of the cinematography.

    I'm with you on Luke for the most part too. I think if the #1 reason he has chosen exile on Ach-to is the loss of his students etc. during Ben's turn to the darkness, I'm REALLY hoping we get to see some of that flash-back (force-back) action. It would be very appropriate for the second act....

    In 1977, a single shot rang out at the Cantina.... No first, no second. Han shot - end of statement.
  • 2000sGuy
    5604 posts Member
    I have my doubts. Im not really excited for it nor do i plan to watch anymore trailers or pay to see it. I hate to say it (not really) but based off footage from the teaser im reluctantly already drawing comparisons to esb(cough cough battle of crait). They just better add something new and different to the universe and not go screw up past events like tfa did.
    Regardless my viewpoints on the films wont affect my enjoyment of st content in bf2 (no matter how similar st is to the ot gameplay wise :unamused: )
  • Cad_Bane
    3138 posts Member
    edited July 18
    2000sGuy wrote: »
    I have my doubts. Im not really excited for it nor do i plan to watch anymore trailers or pay to see it. I hate to say it (not really) but based off footage from the teaser im reluctantly already drawing comparisons to esb(cough cough battle of crait). They just better add something new and different to the universe and not go screw up past events like tfa did.
    Regardless my viewpoints on the films wont affect my enjoyment of st content in bf2 (no matter how similar st is to the ot gameplay wise :unamused: )

    The fact that they might have walkers attacking the resistance base on a remote planet is laughable. It's like they aren't even trying
  • 2000sGuy wrote: »
    I have my doubts. Im not really excited for it nor do i plan to watch anymore trailers or pay to see it. I hate to say it (not really) but based off footage from the teaser im reluctantly already drawing comparisons to esb(cough cough battle of crait). They just better add something new and different to the universe and not go screw up past events like tfa did.
    Regardless my viewpoints on the films wont affect my enjoyment of st content in bf2 (no matter how similar st is to the ot gameplay wise :unamused: )
    http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/06/01/star-wars-the-last-jedi-comparison-empire-strikes-back/
    Relax guys, this movie isn't a copy of The Empire Strikes Back, give it a chance.
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  • Cad_Bane wrote: »
    2000sGuy wrote: »
    I have my doubts. Im not really excited for it nor do i plan to watch anymore trailers or pay to see it. I hate to say it (not really) but based off footage from the teaser im reluctantly already drawing comparisons to esb(cough cough battle of crait). They just better add something new and different to the universe and not go screw up past events like tfa did.
    Regardless my viewpoints on the films wont affect my enjoyment of st content in bf2 (no matter how similar st is to the ot gameplay wise :unamused: )

    The fact that they might have walkers attacking the resistance base on a remote planet is laughable. It's like they aren't even trying
    The fact that you're judging a 5 second part in the first teaser is way more laughable, the Battle of Crait isn't lasting like a minute. It's like you're not even trying to give it a chance, it just looks like you're trying to criticize the film in any possible way. Most notably comparing it to The Empire Strikes Back.
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  • I say more AT-AT's. Personally, I loved the fact that Rogue One had a version of them. New, yet familiar. I absolutely love the second half of the first teaser trailer and how it used the AT-AT klaxon horn, which has always been my favorite Star Wars sound effect. Here is the battlefront version of it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mubk8Y_VyLc
  • 2000sGuy
    5604 posts Member
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    2000sGuy wrote: »
    I have my doubts. Im not really excited for it nor do i plan to watch anymore trailers or pay to see it. I hate to say it (not really) but based off footage from the teaser im reluctantly already drawing comparisons to esb(cough cough battle of crait). They just better add something new and different to the universe and not go screw up past events like tfa did.
    Regardless my viewpoints on the films wont affect my enjoyment of st content in bf2 (no matter how similar st is to the ot gameplay wise :unamused: )

    The fact that they might have walkers attacking the resistance base on a remote planet is laughable. It's like they aren't even trying

    Its definitely clear that the first order discovering the resistance base and the battle of crait is going to be the first act with the walkers vs sand speeders. Second act's mainly going to consist of luke training rey.
    At least It looks like theyre trying to do different subplots with finn and poe but still.
  • Cad_Bane
    3138 posts Member
    2000sGuy wrote: »
    I have my doubts. Im not really excited for it nor do i plan to watch anymore trailers or pay to see it. I hate to say it (not really) but based off footage from the teaser im reluctantly already drawing comparisons to esb(cough cough battle of crait). They just better add something new and different to the universe and not go screw up past events like tfa did.
    Regardless my viewpoints on the films wont affect my enjoyment of st content in bf2 (no matter how similar st is to the ot gameplay wise :unamused: )
    http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/06/01/star-wars-the-last-jedi-comparison-empire-strikes-back/
    Relax guys, this movie isn't a copy of The Empire Strikes Back, give it a chance.
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    2000sGuy wrote: »
    I have my doubts. Im not really excited for it nor do i plan to watch anymore trailers or pay to see it. I hate to say it (not really) but based off footage from the teaser im reluctantly already drawing comparisons to esb(cough cough battle of crait). They just better add something new and different to the universe and not go screw up past events like tfa did.
    Regardless my viewpoints on the films wont affect my enjoyment of st content in bf2 (no matter how similar st is to the ot gameplay wise :unamused: )

    The fact that they might have walkers attacking the resistance base on a remote planet is laughable. It's like they aren't even trying
    The fact that you're judging a 5 second part in the first teaser is way more laughable, the Battle of Crait isn't lasting like a minute. It's like you're not even trying to give it a chance, it just looks like you're trying to criticize the film in any possible way. Most notably comparing it to The Empire Strikes Back.

    Have you seen the movie yet? No, you're basing your assumption off an internet article. Did I criticize it? No, I haven't even seen it yet. All I said is if that happens in the beginning of the movie it would be pretty laughable since TFA had obvious similarities to ep 4. Why are you always responding to every post about the ST if it's something you don't like? You don't have to agree with everybody
  • WarfareKiller41
    4156 posts Member
    edited July 18
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    2000sGuy wrote: »
    I have my doubts. Im not really excited for it nor do i plan to watch anymore trailers or pay to see it. I hate to say it (not really) but based off footage from the teaser im reluctantly already drawing comparisons to esb(cough cough battle of crait). They just better add something new and different to the universe and not go screw up past events like tfa did.
    Regardless my viewpoints on the films wont affect my enjoyment of st content in bf2 (no matter how similar st is to the ot gameplay wise :unamused: )
    http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/06/01/star-wars-the-last-jedi-comparison-empire-strikes-back/
    Relax guys, this movie isn't a copy of The Empire Strikes Back, give it a chance.
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    2000sGuy wrote: »
    I have my doubts. Im not really excited for it nor do i plan to watch anymore trailers or pay to see it. I hate to say it (not really) but based off footage from the teaser im reluctantly already drawing comparisons to esb(cough cough battle of crait). They just better add something new and different to the universe and not go screw up past events like tfa did.
    Regardless my viewpoints on the films wont affect my enjoyment of st content in bf2 (no matter how similar st is to the ot gameplay wise :unamused: )

    The fact that they might have walkers attacking the resistance base on a remote planet is laughable. It's like they aren't even trying
    The fact that you're judging a 5 second part in the first teaser is way more laughable, the Battle of Crait isn't lasting like a minute. It's like you're not even trying to give it a chance, it just looks like you're trying to criticize the film in any possible way. Most notably comparing it to The Empire Strikes Back.

    Have you seen the movie yet? No, you're basing your assumption off an internet article. Did I criticize it? No, I haven't even seen it yet. All I said is if that happens in the beginning of the movie it would be pretty laughable since TFA had obvious similarities to ep 4. Why are you always responding to every post about the ST if it's something you don't like? You don't have to agree with everybody
    Have I seen the movie yet? No, but from what the director and the cast are saying, people need to chill out. If the director says this movie isn't a copy of ESB, what else should you believe for god's sake? A bunch of Walkers has similarities to ESB yes, but the battle could happen differently than it seems. Why do I respond to every post regarding ST hate? Because it just sounds like people are jumping to conclusions, and that happens very frequently here and everywhere in general.
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  • Darkaid
    9145 posts Member
    Very excited for this movie, more than I was for TFA and R1. I predict that it will be one of my favorite SW movies of all time. I don't think it will be too similar to ESB, and will be more original than TFA was. I still think that Rose is actually a First Order spy.
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  • Darkaid wrote: »
    Very excited for this movie, more than I was for TFA and R1. I predict that it will be one of my favorite SW movies of all time. I don't think it will be too similar to ESB, and will be more original than TFA was. I still think that Rose is actually a First Order spy.
    Rose? That could be a good twist, I never thought of that before you mentioned it. Finn and Rose are on an undercover mission by the Resistance according to the BTS video, so Finn might be captured. It has been confirmed that Finn is going to have a fight with Phasma.
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