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I feel bad for the devs

They work so hard only to have people call EA “evil” and say game sucks or not even give the game a chance because there is loot crates.

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  • gameplay 10/10

    credits rewarded 1/10

    ea is choosing to give us low credits so people will feel forced to purchase crates to progress. i understand why people call them evil.
  • Foxdie491
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    edited November 2017
    EvazanJr wrote: »
    They work so hard only to have people call EA “evil” and say game sucks or not even give the game a chance because there is loot crates.

    Same here... it's really depressing having a great game overshadowed by some shady practices and a broken progression system... maybe they'll fixe it overtime but the damage to the image of the game has already beign made.
  • exactly. hate the company but the devs did an amazing bloody job people need their eyes checked. Using other game titles and not giving this one a try is unfair. Love the game
  • Developers have done well just EA holding them back. sad but true, the publisher is creating a negative feeling among gamers.
  • The game is leaps and bounds better than the first, people aren't even thinking about how far it's come, it's sad
  • EvazanJr wrote: »
    They work so hard only to have people call EA “evil” and say game sucks or not even give the game a chance because there is loot crates.

    I suspect that this system is something they were ordered to come up with or is trying to balance a couple of issues in tandem with answering the suits's needs for more $$$$. There was an article on Kotaku about an Uncharted style Star Wars game that was canned when Visceral was closed. One of the devs was saying the executives were saying things like "FIFA Ultimate Team makes a billion dollars. Where is your version of that?"

    There were more problems than that but a simply profitable game isn't enough anymore is a big one I think. Something else we can blame on cell phones.
  • Karandinho wrote: »
    exactly. hate the company but the devs did an amazing bloody job people need their eyes checked. Using other game titles and not giving this one a try is unfair. Love the game

    It's not unfair.. EA brought this to themselves, sadly the devs are the ones that are gonna pay the price in the end. But due to the huge backlash (one of the biggest in gaming history) it's complete fair for people to avoid buying this game. I preorder it and I'm happy (single player wise), but I cannot recommend this game to any of my friends... too many negatives multiplayer wise. No matter how good the mechanics, graphics or map design is. For most people the broken progression system, tide directly to the microtransactions, it's a deal breaker. Said it before and i'll day it again: If EA had taken the safe route and make the microtransactions cosmetics only, all the reviews would've been above 8 by now, and in the end the would have end up making the same amount of money if not more.

    A huge lesson for better companies. Sad but true... now I'm going to privatly keep enjoying the game (since doing so publictly has became a symbol of utter shame...)
  • gameplay 10/10

    credits rewarded 1/10

    ea is choosing to give us low credits so people will feel forced to purchase crates to progress. i understand why people call them evil.

    Have you been playing the game? by the time you get to rank 10 you have earned enough crates and got enough scraps to upgrade your cards to tier 2 which is all you can upgrade them to,and probably discovered a few tier 3 cards, im level 13 and have enough scraps to upgrade my t2 to t3 when i reach lvl 15 especially after doing campaign.By the time i reach lvl 20 and do arcade i probably will be able to t4 a couple of cards.
    You do not have to purchase crates,and saying people are forced to buy crates is untrue
  • Thanks for your thought y’all
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  • Dice did a great job and i feel bad for them cause they gived us a great Star Wars experience and i can feel the love from them but EA ruined it like any other games latetly

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  • I'm having a great time!

    I just think the game needs a little polishing up.

  • I want to agree OP. Thank you DICE,MOTIVE,CRITERION, all the women and men who created this game. I love it, this is the star wars game I've been waiting for.
  • A_Wookie_Roar
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    edited November 2017
    mastery0ta wrote: »
    I want to agree OP. Thank you DICE,MOTIVE,CRITERION, all the women and men who created this game. I love it, this is the star wars game I've been waiting for.

    Yes, this is the Star Wars game were looking for. Thank you everyone who spent countless hours to create it for us!
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  • mastery0ta wrote: »
    I want to agree OP. Thank you DICE,MOTIVE,CRITERION, all the women and men who created this game. I love it, this is the star wars game I've been waiting for.

    Yes, this is the Star Wars game were looking for. Thank you everyone who spent countless hours to create it for us!

    +1 !!
  • EvazanJr wrote: »
    They work so hard only to have people call EA “evil” and say game sucks or not even give the game a chance because there is loot crates.

    What the devs want and what ea want may be totally different things. The complaint could be valid about EA but that has nothing to do with the developers personally.
  • I'm afraid I'm finding it hard to have too much sympathy for the devs, at the end of the day they've still allowed this to happen. This is a full priced AAA game that is riddled with P2W, free to play mechanisms , plus uses micro gambling loot boxes to prey on the weak willed and vulnerable just like real gambling, basically the devs have ripped this stuff straight from the worst that mobile gaming has to offer.

    This is it folks, this is the line in the sand, it is safe to say the very future of AAA gaming is in the balance here, if this game is successful with these mechanics (implemented as they are today) then DICE are directly responsible for the death of gaming as we know it.

    Either EA is completely to blame and DICE should have refused to implement these systems, or DICE are complicit by their actions in going ahead with it, the fact we are here today speaks volumes. I'm not saying the artist who worked on Lukes sabre, or the AI person who did the arcade mode AI is to blame as individuals, but as a collective DICE have allowed this to happen and should shoulder their share of the responsibility for what this means for the very future of the industry and the damage it might do to their reputation. I know I will find it much more difficult to think of DICE to the same high standards I have held them in since I played the original battlefield 1942 game all those years ago.
  • You guys are just feeding the narrative that EA wants. Both the devs and publishers must take the blame. EA wants you to feel sympathetic to their devs so that you would support them and keep buying their games. This way you view one as the good guys and the other the bad guys it is a perfect situation because at the end of the day they win when you support the devs blindly. Not a knock on the game because i love it but the whole devs are good and EA is bad narrative is what they want and have used year and year to get people to buy their games.
  • I'm having a great time!

    I just think the game needs a little polishing up.
    I agree there is problems but the sole fact that they are so intent on making it better (they haven’t made there money back yet) has allowed me to forget about those.
  • You guys are just feeding the narrative that EA wants. Both the devs and publishers must take the blame. EA wants you to feel sympathetic to their devs so that you would support them and keep buying their games. This way you view one as the good guys and the other the bad guys it is a perfect situation because at the end of the day they win when you support the devs blindly. Not a knock on the game because i love it but the whole devs are good and EA is bad narrative is what they want and have used year and year to get people to buy their games.

    If this game sales go badly what do you think EA will do? apologize? fix the game? or... something else? (RIP VICERAL).

    The devs are workers, they do not have a say in the business model of the game. That's a fact. I'm not gonna stop giving credit where is due just to boycoot EA games.. that's just twisted.
  • Foxdie491 wrote: »
    You guys are just feeding the narrative that EA wants. Both the devs and publishers must take the blame. EA wants you to feel sympathetic to their devs so that you would support them and keep buying their games. This way you view one as the good guys and the other the bad guys it is a perfect situation because at the end of the day they win when you support the devs blindly. Not a knock on the game because i love it but the whole devs are good and EA is bad narrative is what they want and have used year and year to get people to buy their games.

    If this game sales go badly what do you think EA will do? apologize? fix the game? or... something else? (RIP VICERAL).

    The devs are workers, they do not have a say in the business model of the game. That's a fact. I'm not gonna stop giving credit where is due just to boycoot EA games.. that's just twisted.

    Indeed Fox
  • The criticism is valid. There are alot of poor choices in the game currently. But, EA and Dice have shown changes and I am going to wait and see what changes come. Gameplay wise I ***** love it. Big improvement from the last.
  • EvazanJr wrote: »
    They work so hard only to have people call EA “evil” and say game sucks or not even give the game a chance because there is loot crates.

    EA aren't necessarily "evil", but they are the problem. Disney gave them sole control of Star Wars games despite their well-known reputation as one of the worst publishing companies in the gaming industry for their blatant and continued abuse of their playerbase. This whole loot box, play-to-progress system has their fingerprints all over it, and the reason why it has been so poorly executed is likely due to DICE not knowing how to implement it in such a way that isn't an obvious consumer rip-off.
    The best thing that all players can do is not buy any of the loot boxes with crystals and send a clear message to EA that we do not accept this, and no matter how much they might try to guilt people into buying them because it "funds the DLC", don't give in. The sales of this game alone would be enough to fund all future DLC without having to buy £79.99/$99.99 worth of premium crystals.
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  • Each one of us has our own gripes about the game, but the reality is we're here because we love the franchise.

    The devs have no doubt been putting in lots of overtime and pouring their hearts and souls into the game. At the eve of launch this should be a time of excitement and celebration, for both the fans and the dev team. It just sucks that this first impression has to be shrouded in so much drama.

    Thanks for bringing us another Battlefront game, and enjoy this moment. Hopefully the champagne runs freely at the office while we're blissfully killing rebel scum.
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  • The game, to me, is bloody awesome and I can't wait til I get home to put in a few more hours.
    yes, I bought crystals on top of pre ordering the Deluxe trooper edition, and I also paid the $4.99 to get early trial access to put in an initial 10 hours prior to pre order launch yesterday.

    I plan on buying more crystals in a couple days, given that there is a nice discount for Origin Access members.

    However, I still suck at FPS games before I get a better feel for the mechanics, so I do not see this as a Pay to Win thing. I see it as a shortcut to obtaining items that I would otherwise obtain as I progress in the game.

    Its a shortcut, but if you are a ground pounder player, the lootboxes lean more towards star fighter play than they do for regular mud leg ground pounders.
  • EvazanJr wrote: »
    They work so hard only to have people call EA “evil” and say game sucks or not even give the game a chance because there is loot crates.

    EA is evil. The game is great, minus the loot crates and the progression system incentivising the loot crates. Still bought the game. Syill havimg a blast. But i will call EA out with everyone else
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