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did they seriously just censor my honest review of this game?

wow.... This company is something else

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  • I read it hippo,

    I agree with almost all of it too.

    I have it saved as well in a text file.

    Cheers,

    054
  • You probably broke a site rule or two. This post breaks another so it’ll be shut down.

    Stick to the site rules and you can be as hyper critical as you like, the mods are alright here.
  • HippoZoned
    215 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    Read below I broke no rules other than criticizing the game


    This is my opinion many may disagree that is fine, lets not argue but discuss it.


    Why Battlefront has disappointed me & Why it will fail...


    If I’m Being honest with you guys from the start I figured from what I experienced in the beta I wouldn’t like the full game so to avoid dropping $60 on a game that I may not like I signed up for EA Access even though I didn’t want to because I already own or don’t care for the other games offered through the service, but I did it because wasting $6 is a lot better than $60 and I wanted to share my opinion on the new battlefront. I've since bought a code for $30 from a friend and have put in about 25+ hours and played over 50 matches. Now I didn’t play the campaign yet but I will just haven't gotten around to it. So my review will only be on the multiplayer aspect of the game. Before I go into my review I want to explain why I am so disappointed with EA’s Battlefront games. Both of them now…


    You know ever since I heard DICE was making Battlefront back in like 2014 I thought my dreams were finally answered, the universe heard my idea, because back when I went from playing the original Battlefront 2 in 2007 to Battlefield Bad Company in 2008 I imagined the next battlefront game while playing bad company, I was like this is awesome, all the weapons vehicles and destruction, I thought wouldn’t a game like this but it’s star wars be freaking awesome? And I asked others and many people agreed and said dice should make the game because they are the only company that could make it right, or so we thought. I just don’t understand why they refuse to make the game many of us want. Just imagine a battlefield-like game but with star wars skin, what more could a big battlefield fan and an even bigger STAR WARS fan ask for? Right?! WRONG! They released the joke they called Battlefront 2015 and I was highly disappointed and frustrated so I made videos to reflect that, many people disliked my videos and said I was wrong that the game was good etc. but eventually others saw what I saw in that game from day one and also made videos to reflect their disappointment and the game died. At this point I figured the people over at DICE would learn and finally give me and many others what they wanted… Turns out I was wrong again and instead we get Battlefront 2 2017 the same game with a few more options, weapons and heroes, but with the same problems and issues the first game had, what a joke.


    When it comes to the outrage for Battlefront 2 I am dumbfounded, yet I am also not surprised if that makes any sense at all. I feel this way because of the reason people are angry at Battlefront 2, don’t get me wrong I understand their anger and hate for the loot crate system, I agree with the anger, but I feel it over shadows the real reasons this game is bad. I believe battlefront 2 sucks because of the simple gunplay mechanics and star cards in general, it adds an unbalance factor to the game, for instance I was shooting someone the other day and almost killed them but they popped a blue shield card and killed me. Even though I was hopping and strafing like a mad man. That is another reason I hate the gunplay I should not be able to strafe and hop like a fool and get a kill so easily, the hopping and strafing does absolutely nothing to my aim and I feel it should. Basically the more you move the more of a chance you have to win a fire fight.


    As i said before the game has really bad balance, and I especially hate that the game is so boring after getting to a certain point, each time I play a match it feels the same no matter what map I play on. Especially when the teams cant get past the 1st objective on the maps because of the terrible map design and team balance. In reality the game hasn’t changed much since the last release in 2015, and this really frustrates me because no one can see it or wants to admit it.


    Star Wars Battlefront 2 has the same issues as the last game. It’s extremely simple, it offers no challenge, no sense of progression and gives me no reason to want to keep playing but to unlock star cards to go on crazy kill streaks. But What happens when I unlock all the heroes and cards? Hmm? What reason do I have to want to keep playing? There is no depth to this game, yeah there is more maps and more characters to play with but it’s the same experience no matter what map or character you are controlling. Which IMO is the reason there is so much grind in this game, its the only way to get someone to spend money or keep playing.


    The only fun part is using the heroes or op vehicles but that appeal eventually dies. This game is highly repetitive and the Star Wars appeal will eventually wear off because each match essentially plays the same, there is no random factor to the game which is a huge issue in my opinion. Especially because I don’t get that feeling I have when I play other shooters made by DICE such as battlefield 3 or battlefield 4 in which each match would end differently no matter what map you played on, this is very important for the longevity of any multiplayer game IMO.
    So while the maps are big and beautiful they are also linear with a lot of choke points and clutter objects that make it hard to spot enemies in third person and that also obstructs the camera a lot in matches Causing me to experience silly deaths and frustration. The maps are boring and really don’t help give me that feeling of random chaotic matches. In each match you know what the enemies will do because you know where they will be coming from and what they need to do, there is no randomness just a bunch of linear paths and choke points.
    You can’t flank enemies and even if you could it wouldn’t make a huge difference because of the fact you light up on the mini map for sprinting which makes no sense why something like this was added to any FPS, so when someone spawns they probably will find you and kill you, also each match imo is won by brute force or whoever can get a hero first.


    You know one of the main reasons I still play battlefield 4 even after I played each map probably over a hundred times and pretty much have everything unlocked and what not it’s because that most of the time each conquest game would end differently, because teams can capture flags in any order you can try to out play or out think your enemies and u always need to stay on your feet because you never know where an enemy will come from or what they will do, plus in each match I feel if I worked hard enough or solo back capped a flag or I stopped an enemy from back capping I could influence the match even if only a little to help my team come out on top. I also feel that my fast reflexes and decent aim gives me an advantage and it can be improved if I work at it in battlefield 4.


    I don’t have that same feeling when I play battlefront, especially cause of the different star cards as I said before I lost a fire fight simply cause someone had a shield not cause he had better aim or quicker reflexes. I also feel that one team always has a slight advantage over the other so 10 mins into the match I already know the outcome. So no matter what I do or how hard I fight there is no point in being a “Try Hard” so to speak, because I don’t feel like my aim or skills matter here and the outcome will remain the same. So at times I hang back or give up trying to win and I just collect points to get a reinforcement or a hero class to have some fun and get some kills. Believe it or not I’m not the only one who does this I’ve seen others doing this. So when you add it all together from the star cards, the linear maps, the server unbalance and that everyone gets about the same credits regardless of performance, I figure what is the point.


    As I said before the gunplay feels overly simplified and you can get more kills and have a better chance of staying alive while hopping and strafing like an guy jacked up on caffeine than taking the time to aim and putting solid hits on target. I cannot figure out for the life of me why there is still no decent squad system in the game, there is no voice chat, the game is objective/team based yet its lacking the things required for team/objective play. Progression is still silly as ever and doesn’t feel rewarding, let me work hard for credits then open a case and not get anything I wanted... LMFAO who ever added this to the game needs to be fired ASAP.... It's still a bad system and a poor way to try to keep players playing and spending money which is what their true goal here is. I mean why else do you think they originally had Vader and Luke locked behind 60,000 credits. Because it’s the only thing players might work for and would make them wanting to keep playing.


    Many of the reinforcement classes still feel useless compared others. They raised the hero points required to use some heroes in game by 1000 points and others to 8000 points which I’m assuming this was to combat hero abuse but it’s a bad fix and doesn’t solve anything in my opinion. My solution is to put a team wide counter (3 minutes maybe) on a team after a hero dies before they can use another. Cross era heroes is silly and breaks immersion. Having 3 in play also should be a No, No. Two maybe but 3? come on now. Also why do heroes regenerate health? This is absurd and should not be in the game... I've seen teams lose matches because of a team using the heroes to defend objectives because they would constantly regenerate health after we hammered them.


    You know another decision they made over at DICE that makes absolutely no sense is that one of the most asked for features and the most appealing game modes isn't in this game and that is Galactic Conquest or some form of conquest.


    I just don't understand why they refuse to add this to the game, its the one thing that can add longevity to the game. Its the one game mode that keeps me coming back to battlefield 4, occasionally I'll play something else in that game but whenever I launch Battlefield 4 I play CQ. So the refusal to add it here leaves me absolutely dumbfounded. TBH I think currently they cant add it because the maps aren't designed for it, they are too linear and not open enough. The game isn't built for it.


    Unfortunately I don't believe their will be a battlefront 3 and so we will never get another star wars game with Galactic Conquest or a Conquest mode and I've given up on it and refuse to play the stuff that is currently in Battlefront 2 which is a huge reason I wont be buying the game anytime soon.


    Moving on, the Randomness of the crates frustrates me I grind out like 15 matches I open a crate and I get a card for the specialist when I want something for the assault class... WHAT!? UGH.... I don’t care for emotes and so I’m mad they are forced on me and included in the crates. TBH they break immersion and don’t add anything to the game at least for me. Not to mention the credit system is dumb, buying crates takes too much time already with how stingy they are with the credits and then they fill the crates with silly things like emotes, now you have a ton of grinding to do just to get what you want. I have no clue why credits earned is match time based and not performance based that doesn’t make any sense and doesn’t give me any incentive to want to push up or play the objective. It doesn’t matter how well I do because I’m rewarded the same as a bad player.


    So I didn’t place the Space Assault game mode at the time of writing this but I did enjoy the game mode in the beta and I think it’s the best part of the game IMO and was going to be one of the few reasons I’d consider buying Battlefront at full price, but as of now I won’t be.


    Overall I feel the game is bad and I wouldn't buy it at full price, honestly this has nothing to do with the loot crate issues. I just don’t like the game, in my opinion adding more stuff doesn’t make a game more in-depth and while I am glad the game now spans all eras and has a lot more content it doesn’t really change the fact I find the gunplay and the overall experience unrewarding and lackluster.
  • Expect a short term ban if you repost what they removed.
  • Sorry but they are gonna give you a time out. Give the game another two weeks and I hope it will change your mind
  • dude they are censoring legit feedback, but they are listening to us right? come on now
  • HippoZoned
    215 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    not to mention my post broke no rules so if you read it you cannot honestly say they aren't censoring negative feedback..

    As a owner of the game I should be allowed to express my concerns... and if this thread breaks the rules why isn't it locked but my criticism was locked and deleted both here and there within seconds...
  • HippoZoned wrote: »
    dude they are censoring legit feedback, but they are listening to us right? come on now

    I’ve seen sweary excessive posts removed and I’ve seen threads merged or closed for saying the same thing as several others on page one, but I've honestly yet to see anything ‘censored’ that was respectful and posted in the right place.

  • did OP harp on micotransactions?
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • HippoZoned
    215 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    no not at all infact I didn't even mention them. I simply went over everything else that is wrong with the game in a very detailed and somewhat constructive way.
  • did they completely remove your post or just make it so it no longer shows up at the top of the general discussion? Because my post about seeing massive purple cards on Day 2 no longer bumps to the top, its like a stealth censor!
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • They are removing any post that says anything negative at all its pathetic
  • They are removing any post that says anything negative at all its pathetic

    Wow, that it's pathetic and pretty childish!
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • Jefetumadre
    182 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    This will get removed for discussing moderation even tho i saw one of the mods ***** talking in his response and closing the thread so no one could respond this forum is by far the worst ive been on
  • This will get removed for discussing moderation even tho i saw one of the mods **** talking in his response and closing the thread so no one could respond this forum is by far the worst ive been on

    i thought ea/dice wanted honest feedback? I guess not on here, just reddit right?
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • zodemere wrote: »
    This will get removed for discussing moderation even tho i saw one of the mods **** talking in his response and closing the thread so no one could respond this forum is by far the worst ive been on

    i thought ea/dice wanted honest feedback? I guess not on here, just reddit right?

    Lol funny enough one mod post i saw on somebody complaining about something said dont come here with your hate just take that to reddit and he was saying he was having technical issues like i said its blatant censorship of negative post in case new people come here so they dont see the problems
  • Ive watched several Threads get locked, and as far I could tell they did not break the rules. The mods just say please report to such and such then boom.
  • Stop complaining and #gitgud or quit playing.
  • Octavious_Wrex
    3043 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    You guys are paranoid. Your post broke a rule, or was in the wrong section, or was redundant because a similar thread already existed. If they were really censoring negative threads half the threads on this forum would be gone.

    If you have an issue with moderation, then PM them and ask why it was removed. That's the correct way to go about it, not make a silly conspiracy thread. By the way, hey probably will close this thread, because it's against the rules to discuss moderation, which is pretty standard for any forum I've ever seen.
  • Cad_Bane
    6252 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    Stop complaining and #gitgud or quit playing.
    This forum “git gud” trend is the worse trend so far. It’s even worse than the constant mod tagging. :/
  • They are not the first company to try and censor negative forum post about games and wont be the last i just find it funny with all thats gone on with this game so far and sales being down 60% from the first game they are just gonna keep pushing and run of people who bought they game and try to give contructive criticism sometimes i think ea wants to fail
  • Jefetumadre
    182 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    Stop complaining and #gitgud or quit playing.
    This forum “git gud” trend is the worse trend so far. It’s even worse than the constant mod tagging. :/

    Dont worry the bots will be a long soon to say nothings wrong they arent doing it mt's are great the game has no problems. Funny its always the same 5-10 accounts i see on every negative thread saying that stuff
  • Octavious_Wrex
    3043 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    So now if someone disagrees with your points they're bots? Man you really need to get out more, there is no internet conspiracy against you.
  • You guys are paranoid. Your post broke a rule, or was in the wrong section, or was redundant because a similar thread already existed. If they were really censoring negative threads half the threads on this forum would be gone.

    If you have an issue with moderation, then PM them and ask why it was removed. That's the correct way to go about it, not make a silly conspiracy thread. By the way, hey probably will close this thread, because it's against the rules to discuss moderation, which is pretty standard for any forum I've ever seen.

    Dude I'm new to this forum and my thread wasn't locked by X person so I don't know who to PM so I made a thread asking why my thread wasn't being bumped to the top of the general discussion when a new post is made and instead of getting a nice answer I was told to not discuss mods/moderations or call them out (cuz they can't handle it, like are they snowflakes or something?) and that thread was then locked so I am at a complete loss as to what is going on since I haven't even got a message in my inbox from them!!!
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • They are removing any post that says anything negative at all its pathetic

    Lol are you serious? Just take a look at the front page and all the critical threads that are still open.
    SFA Reinforcement Ideas - https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/98321/starfighter-assault-reinforcement-ideas#latest

    Specialist Scout Pistol Addition - https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/90785/flash-pistol-scout-pistol-needs-to-be-on-specialist-please/p1

    "Lean upon pain like a crutch and you create anger and a dark fear of truth. Pain guides, but it does not support" Obi-Wan Kenobi

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  • I’ll always remember you hippo!!
  • I agree. When i first heard about DICE making battlefront i couldn’t believe it. Finally! Our original battlefronts with better graphics. A battlefield but Star Wars!! But nooooooo they came out with the trash of 2015. And this year whilst has improved slightly goes no where.
  • zodemere wrote: »
    You guys are paranoid. Your post broke a rule, or was in the wrong section, or was redundant because a similar thread already existed. If they were really censoring negative threads half the threads on this forum would be gone.

    If you have an issue with moderation, then PM them and ask why it was removed. That's the correct way to go about it, not make a silly conspiracy thread. By the way, hey probably will close this thread, because it's against the rules to discuss moderation, which is pretty standard for any forum I've ever seen.

    Dude I'm new to this forum and my thread wasn't locked by X person so I don't know who to PM so I made a thread asking why my thread wasn't being bumped to the top of the general discussion when a new post is made and instead of getting a nice answer I was told to not discuss mods/moderations or call them out (cuz they can't handle it, like are they snowflakes or something?) and that thread was then locked so I am at a complete loss as to what is going on since I haven't even got a message in my inbox from them!!!

    It's not because they're snowflakes, it's because if that wasn't a rule every single person who had a thread closed would make new threads complaining about their old threads being closed. Just pick a mod and pm them and ask if you aren't sure why it was closed.

    If you're not sure who the mods are or how to go about it, make a post asking who they are and how to pm them in the off topic part of the forum. Don't go into the why if it, people don't need to know why you want to pm a mod.

    I understand it can be frustrating to have a thread closed, but these guys aren't your enimies, they are just trying to keep the forum remotely clean. Attacking them and calling them names certainly isn't the right way to go about anything.
  • Cad_Bane wrote: »
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    Stop complaining and #gitgud or quit playing.
    This forum “git gud” trend is the worse trend so far. It’s even worse than the constant mod tagging. :/

    Honestly, I've never seen so many whiners in my life.

    This game is great, but people will always find something to complain about. First it was the high costed heroes, then it was lootcrates, now its internal imbalance/star cards.

    Learn the game and you will do great.
  • What are you talking about? They didn't close your thread.... its still here and you can still view it and I can post a reply to it.
  • Cad_Bane wrote: »
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    Stop complaining and #gitgud or quit playing.
    This forum “git gud” trend is the worse trend so far. It’s even worse than the constant mod tagging. :/

    Dont worry the bots will be a long soon to say nothings wrong they arent doing it mt's are great the game has no problems. Funny its always the same 5-10 accounts i see on every negative thread saying that stuff

    "Bots" hah.
  • So now if someone disagrees with your points they're bots? Man you really need to get out more, there is no internet conspiracy against you.

    +1
  • Dash
    11637 posts Member
    HippoZoned wrote: »
    Read below I broke no rules other than criticizing the game


    This is my opinion many may disagree that is fine, lets not argue but discuss it.


    Why Battlefront has disappointed me & Why it will fail...


    If I’m Being honest with you guys from the start I figured from what I experienced in the beta I wouldn’t like the full game so to avoid dropping $60 on a game that I may not like I signed up for EA Access even though I didn’t want to because I already own or don’t care for the other games offered through the service, but I did it because wasting $6 is a lot better than $60 and I wanted to share my opinion on the new battlefront. I've since bought a code for $30 from a friend and have put in about 25+ hours and played over 50 matches. Now I didn’t play the campaign yet but I will just haven't gotten around to it. So my review will only be on the multiplayer aspect of the game. Before I go into my review I want to explain why I am so disappointed with EA’s Battlefront games. Both of them now…


    You know ever since I heard DICE was making Battlefront back in like 2014 I thought my dreams were finally answered, the universe heard my idea, because back when I went from playing the original Battlefront 2 in 2007 to Battlefield Bad Company in 2008 I imagined the next battlefront game while playing bad company, I was like this is awesome, all the weapons vehicles and destruction, I thought wouldn’t a game like this but it’s star wars be freaking awesome? And I asked others and many people agreed and said dice should make the game because they are the only company that could make it right, or so we thought. I just don’t understand why they refuse to make the game many of us want. Just imagine a battlefield-like game but with star wars skin, what more could a big battlefield fan and an even bigger STAR WARS fan ask for? Right?! WRONG! They released the joke they called Battlefront 2015 and I was highly disappointed and frustrated so I made videos to reflect that, many people disliked my videos and said I was wrong that the game was good etc. but eventually others saw what I saw in that game from day one and also made videos to reflect their disappointment and the game died. At this point I figured the people over at DICE would learn and finally give me and many others what they wanted… Turns out I was wrong again and instead we get Battlefront 2 2017 the same game with a few more options, weapons and heroes, but with the same problems and issues the first game had, what a joke.


    When it comes to the outrage for Battlefront 2 I am dumbfounded, yet I am also not surprised if that makes any sense at all. I feel this way because of the reason people are angry at Battlefront 2, don’t get me wrong I understand their anger and hate for the loot crate system, I agree with the anger, but I feel it over shadows the real reasons this game is bad. I believe battlefront 2 sucks because of the simple gunplay mechanics and star cards in general, it adds an unbalance factor to the game, for instance I was shooting someone the other day and almost killed them but they popped a blue shield card and killed me. Even though I was hopping and strafing like a mad man. That is another reason I hate the gunplay I should not be able to strafe and hop like a fool and get a kill so easily, the hopping and strafing does absolutely nothing to my aim and I feel it should. Basically the more you move the more of a chance you have to win a fire fight.


    As i said before the game has really bad balance, and I especially hate that the game is so boring after getting to a certain point, each time I play a match it feels the same no matter what map I play on. Especially when the teams cant get past the 1st objective on the maps because of the terrible map design and team balance. In reality the game hasn’t changed much since the last release in 2015, and this really frustrates me because no one can see it or wants to admit it.


    Star Wars Battlefront 2 has the same issues as the last game. It’s extremely simple, it offers no challenge, no sense of progression and gives me no reason to want to keep playing but to unlock star cards to go on crazy kill streaks. But What happens when I unlock all the heroes and cards? Hmm? What reason do I have to want to keep playing? There is no depth to this game, yeah there is more maps and more characters to play with but it’s the same experience no matter what map or character you are controlling. Which IMO is the reason there is so much grind in this game, its the only way to get someone to spend money or keep playing.


    The only fun part is using the heroes or op vehicles but that appeal eventually dies. This game is highly repetitive and the Star Wars appeal will eventually wear off because each match essentially plays the same, there is no random factor to the game which is a huge issue in my opinion. Especially because I don’t get that feeling I have when I play other shooters made by DICE such as battlefield 3 or battlefield 4 in which each match would end differently no matter what map you played on, this is very important for the longevity of any multiplayer game IMO.
    So while the maps are big and beautiful they are also linear with a lot of choke points and clutter objects that make it hard to spot enemies in third person and that also obstructs the camera a lot in matches Causing me to experience silly deaths and frustration. The maps are boring and really don’t help give me that feeling of random chaotic matches. In each match you know what the enemies will do because you know where they will be coming from and what they need to do, there is no randomness just a bunch of linear paths and choke points.
    You can’t flank enemies and even if you could it wouldn’t make a huge difference because of the fact you light up on the mini map for sprinting which makes no sense why something like this was added to any FPS, so when someone spawns they probably will find you and kill you, also each match imo is won by brute force or whoever can get a hero first.


    You know one of the main reasons I still play battlefield 4 even after I played each map probably over a hundred times and pretty much have everything unlocked and what not it’s because that most of the time each conquest game would end differently, because teams can capture flags in any order you can try to out play or out think your enemies and u always need to stay on your feet because you never know where an enemy will come from or what they will do, plus in each match I feel if I worked hard enough or solo back capped a flag or I stopped an enemy from back capping I could influence the match even if only a little to help my team come out on top. I also feel that my fast reflexes and decent aim gives me an advantage and it can be improved if I work at it in battlefield 4.


    I don’t have that same feeling when I play battlefront, especially cause of the different star cards as I said before I lost a fire fight simply cause someone had a shield not cause he had better aim or quicker reflexes. I also feel that one team always has a slight advantage over the other so 10 mins into the match I already know the outcome. So no matter what I do or how hard I fight there is no point in being a “Try Hard” so to speak, because I don’t feel like my aim or skills matter here and the outcome will remain the same. So at times I hang back or give up trying to win and I just collect points to get a reinforcement or a hero class to have some fun and get some kills. Believe it or not I’m not the only one who does this I’ve seen others doing this. So when you add it all together from the star cards, the linear maps, the server unbalance and that everyone gets about the same credits regardless of performance, I figure what is the point.


    As I said before the gunplay feels overly simplified and you can get more kills and have a better chance of staying alive while hopping and strafing like an guy jacked up on caffeine than taking the time to aim and putting solid hits on target. I cannot figure out for the life of me why there is still no decent squad system in the game, there is no voice chat, the game is objective/team based yet its lacking the things required for team/objective play. Progression is still silly as ever and doesn’t feel rewarding, let me work hard for credits then open a case and not get anything I wanted... LMFAO who ever added this to the game needs to be fired ASAP.... It's still a bad system and a poor way to try to keep players playing and spending money which is what their true goal here is. I mean why else do you think they originally had Vader and Luke locked behind 60,000 credits. Because it’s the only thing players might work for and would make them wanting to keep playing.


    Many of the reinforcement classes still feel useless compared others. They raised the hero points required to use some heroes in game by 1000 points and others to 8000 points which I’m assuming this was to combat hero abuse but it’s a bad fix and doesn’t solve anything in my opinion. My solution is to put a team wide counter (3 minutes maybe) on a team after a hero dies before they can use another. Cross era heroes is silly and breaks immersion. Having 3 in play also should be a No, No. Two maybe but 3? come on now. Also why do heroes regenerate health? This is absurd and should not be in the game... I've seen teams lose matches because of a team using the heroes to defend objectives because they would constantly regenerate health after we hammered them.


    You know another decision they made over at DICE that makes absolutely no sense is that one of the most asked for features and the most appealing game modes isn't in this game and that is Galactic Conquest or some form of conquest.


    I just don't understand why they refuse to add this to the game, its the one thing that can add longevity to the game. Its the one game mode that keeps me coming back to battlefield 4, occasionally I'll play something else in that game but whenever I launch Battlefield 4 I play CQ. So the refusal to add it here leaves me absolutely dumbfounded. TBH I think currently they cant add it because the maps aren't designed for it, they are too linear and not open enough. The game isn't built for it.


    Unfortunately I don't believe their will be a battlefront 3 and so we will never get another star wars game with Galactic Conquest or a Conquest mode and I've given up on it and refuse to play the stuff that is currently in Battlefront 2 which is a huge reason I wont be buying the game anytime soon.


    Moving on, the Randomness of the crates frustrates me I grind out like 15 matches I open a crate and I get a card for the specialist when I want something for the assault class... WHAT!? UGH.... I don’t care for emotes and so I’m mad they are forced on me and included in the crates. TBH they break immersion and don’t add anything to the game at least for me. Not to mention the credit system is dumb, buying crates takes too much time already with how stingy they are with the credits and then they fill the crates with silly things like emotes, now you have a ton of grinding to do just to get what you want. I have no clue why credits earned is match time based and not performance based that doesn’t make any sense and doesn’t give me any incentive to want to push up or play the objective. It doesn’t matter how well I do because I’m rewarded the same as a bad player.


    So I didn’t place the Space Assault game mode at the time of writing this but I did enjoy the game mode in the beta and I think it’s the best part of the game IMO and was going to be one of the few reasons I’d consider buying Battlefront at full price, but as of now I won’t be.


    Overall I feel the game is bad and I wouldn't buy it at full price, honestly this has nothing to do with the loot crate issues. I just don’t like the game, in my opinion adding more stuff doesn’t make a game more in-depth and while I am glad the game now spans all eras and has a lot more content it doesn’t really change the fact I find the gunplay and the overall experience unrewarding and lackluster.

    If you only played trial, and never went live, I don't believe you have a right to speak about anything ongoing with the game at the moment. This game is now live, has had major adjustments made, and has a different future ahead of it from what you experienced. All that within less than 2 weeks after launch and all of it is for the better. I Have played it since Alpha/Beta/Trial/Live currently. It's come a long way, been through major drama, changed drama, refocusing game plan, in the middle of transitioning into the game it was meant to be. And if they removed your previous post, you did break a rule. You can't just get removed, for nothing. And the fact you had the nerve to do it again, I have no clue what it is you think, but you deserved to be banned. Let me put it this way, If I rented a car for a vacation, will I know every single feature of that car I was renting after a few days? No. Will I enjoy the car to it's fullest? No. If I have no experience with that car should I give that car a review? No. With that said, you numbers are off as well for the time you "Put in". It's *****, and your "opinion" is a flagrant disrespect to this community and we've been through enough as it is.
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  • RedReVenge wrote: »
    So now if someone disagrees with your points they're bots? Man you really need to get out more, there is no internet conspiracy against you.

    +1

    When the same 5-10 of you are going around doing it yes bots lol btw just incase people think companies dont do that https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku.com/assassins-creed-origins-metacritic-flooded-with-fake-po-1820039309/amp
    Ubisoft just got caught doing it lmfao im sure the great EA would never do as such
  • xJstarx00
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    edited November 2017
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    So now if someone disagrees with your points they're bots? Man you really need to get out more, there is no internet conspiracy against you.

    +1

    When the same 5-10 of you are going around doing it yes bots lol btw just incase people think companies dont do that https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku.com/assassins-creed-origins-metacritic-flooded-with-fake-po-1820039309/amp
    Ubisoft just got caught doing it lmfao im sure the great EA would never do as such

    That post is about bot game review accounts not a forums bot... how would a bot judge if the post is negative or positive anyways?

    And if you read the post it said “It’s not a frequent occurrence - maybe 2 - 3 games a year,” Doyle said so its not just EA games.
  • HippoZoned wrote: »
    Read below I broke no rules other than criticizing the game


    This is my opinion many may disagree that is fine, lets not argue but discuss it.


    Why Battlefront has disappointed me & Why it will fail...


    If I’m Being honest with you guys from the start I figured from what I experienced in the beta I wouldn’t like the full game so to avoid dropping $60 on a game that I may not like I signed up for EA Access even though I didn’t want to because I already own or don’t care for the other games offered through the service, but I did it because wasting $6 is a lot better than $60 and I wanted to share my opinion on the new battlefront. I've since bought a code for $30 from a friend and have put in about 25+ hours and played over 50 matches. Now I didn’t play the campaign yet but I will just haven't gotten around to it. So my review will only be on the multiplayer aspect of the game. Before I go into my review I want to explain why I am so disappointed with EA’s Battlefront games. Both of them now…


    You know ever since I heard DICE was making Battlefront back in like 2014 I thought my dreams were finally answered, the universe heard my idea, because back when I went from playing the original Battlefront 2 in 2007 to Battlefield Bad Company in 2008 I imagined the next battlefront game while playing bad company, I was like this is awesome, all the weapons vehicles and destruction, I thought wouldn’t a game like this but it’s star wars be freaking awesome? And I asked others and many people agreed and said dice should make the game because they are the only company that could make it right, or so we thought. I just don’t understand why they refuse to make the game many of us want. Just imagine a battlefield-like game but with star wars skin, what more could a big battlefield fan and an even bigger STAR WARS fan ask for? Right?! WRONG! They released the joke they called Battlefront 2015 and I was highly disappointed and frustrated so I made videos to reflect that, many people disliked my videos and said I was wrong that the game was good etc. but eventually others saw what I saw in that game from day one and also made videos to reflect their disappointment and the game died. At this point I figured the people over at DICE would learn and finally give me and many others what they wanted… Turns out I was wrong again and instead we get Battlefront 2 2017 the same game with a few more options, weapons and heroes, but with the same problems and issues the first game had, what a joke.


    When it comes to the outrage for Battlefront 2 I am dumbfounded, yet I am also not surprised if that makes any sense at all. I feel this way because of the reason people are angry at Battlefront 2, don’t get me wrong I understand their anger and hate for the loot crate system, I agree with the anger, but I feel it over shadows the real reasons this game is bad. I believe battlefront 2 sucks because of the simple gunplay mechanics and star cards in general, it adds an unbalance factor to the game, for instance I was shooting someone the other day and almost killed them but they popped a blue shield card and killed me. Even though I was hopping and strafing like a mad man. That is another reason I hate the gunplay I should not be able to strafe and hop like a fool and get a kill so easily, the hopping and strafing does absolutely nothing to my aim and I feel it should. Basically the more you move the more of a chance you have to win a fire fight.


    As i said before the game has really bad balance, and I especially hate that the game is so boring after getting to a certain point, each time I play a match it feels the same no matter what map I play on. Especially when the teams cant get past the 1st objective on the maps because of the terrible map design and team balance. In reality the game hasn’t changed much since the last release in 2015, and this really frustrates me because no one can see it or wants to admit it.


    Star Wars Battlefront 2 has the same issues as the last game. It’s extremely simple, it offers no challenge, no sense of progression and gives me no reason to want to keep playing but to unlock star cards to go on crazy kill streaks. But What happens when I unlock all the heroes and cards? Hmm? What reason do I have to want to keep playing? There is no depth to this game, yeah there is more maps and more characters to play with but it’s the same experience no matter what map or character you are controlling. Which IMO is the reason there is so much grind in this game, its the only way to get someone to spend money or keep playing.


    The only fun part is using the heroes or op vehicles but that appeal eventually dies. This game is highly repetitive and the Star Wars appeal will eventually wear off because each match essentially plays the same, there is no random factor to the game which is a huge issue in my opinion. Especially because I don’t get that feeling I have when I play other shooters made by DICE such as battlefield 3 or battlefield 4 in which each match would end differently no matter what map you played on, this is very important for the longevity of any multiplayer game IMO.
    So while the maps are big and beautiful they are also linear with a lot of choke points and clutter objects that make it hard to spot enemies in third person and that also obstructs the camera a lot in matches Causing me to experience silly deaths and frustration. The maps are boring and really don’t help give me that feeling of random chaotic matches. In each match you know what the enemies will do because you know where they will be coming from and what they need to do, there is no randomness just a bunch of linear paths and choke points.
    You can’t flank enemies and even if you could it wouldn’t make a huge difference because of the fact you light up on the mini map for sprinting which makes no sense why something like this was added to any FPS, so when someone spawns they probably will find you and kill you, also each match imo is won by brute force or whoever can get a hero first.


    You know one of the main reasons I still play battlefield 4 even after I played each map probably over a hundred times and pretty much have everything unlocked and what not it’s because that most of the time each conquest game would end differently, because teams can capture flags in any order you can try to out play or out think your enemies and u always need to stay on your feet because you never know where an enemy will come from or what they will do, plus in each match I feel if I worked hard enough or solo back capped a flag or I stopped an enemy from back capping I could influence the match even if only a little to help my team come out on top. I also feel that my fast reflexes and decent aim gives me an advantage and it can be improved if I work at it in battlefield 4.


    I don’t have that same feeling when I play battlefront, especially cause of the different star cards as I said before I lost a fire fight simply cause someone had a shield not cause he had better aim or quicker reflexes. I also feel that one team always has a slight advantage over the other so 10 mins into the match I already know the outcome. So no matter what I do or how hard I fight there is no point in being a “Try Hard” so to speak, because I don’t feel like my aim or skills matter here and the outcome will remain the same. So at times I hang back or give up trying to win and I just collect points to get a reinforcement or a hero class to have some fun and get some kills. Believe it or not I’m not the only one who does this I’ve seen others doing this. So when you add it all together from the star cards, the linear maps, the server unbalance and that everyone gets about the same credits regardless of performance, I figure what is the point.


    As I said before the gunplay feels overly simplified and you can get more kills and have a better chance of staying alive while hopping and strafing like an guy jacked up on caffeine than taking the time to aim and putting solid hits on target. I cannot figure out for the life of me why there is still no decent squad system in the game, there is no voice chat, the game is objective/team based yet its lacking the things required for team/objective play. Progression is still silly as ever and doesn’t feel rewarding, let me work hard for credits then open a case and not get anything I wanted... LMFAO who ever added this to the game needs to be fired ASAP.... It's still a bad system and a poor way to try to keep players playing and spending money which is what their true goal here is. I mean why else do you think they originally had Vader and Luke locked behind 60,000 credits. Because it’s the only thing players might work for and would make them wanting to keep playing.


    Many of the reinforcement classes still feel useless compared others. They raised the hero points required to use some heroes in game by 1000 points and others to 8000 points which I’m assuming this was to combat hero abuse but it’s a bad fix and doesn’t solve anything in my opinion. My solution is to put a team wide counter (3 minutes maybe) on a team after a hero dies before they can use another. Cross era heroes is silly and breaks immersion. Having 3 in play also should be a No, No. Two maybe but 3? come on now. Also why do heroes regenerate health? This is absurd and should not be in the game... I've seen teams lose matches because of a team using the heroes to defend objectives because they would constantly regenerate health after we hammered them.


    You know another decision they made over at DICE that makes absolutely no sense is that one of the most asked for features and the most appealing game modes isn't in this game and that is Galactic Conquest or some form of conquest.


    I just don't understand why they refuse to add this to the game, its the one thing that can add longevity to the game. Its the one game mode that keeps me coming back to battlefield 4, occasionally I'll play something else in that game but whenever I launch Battlefield 4 I play CQ. So the refusal to add it here leaves me absolutely dumbfounded. TBH I think currently they cant add it because the maps aren't designed for it, they are too linear and not open enough. The game isn't built for it.


    Unfortunately I don't believe their will be a battlefront 3 and so we will never get another star wars game with Galactic Conquest or a Conquest mode and I've given up on it and refuse to play the stuff that is currently in Battlefront 2 which is a huge reason I wont be buying the game anytime soon.


    Moving on, the Randomness of the crates frustrates me I grind out like 15 matches I open a crate and I get a card for the specialist when I want something for the assault class... WHAT!? UGH.... I don’t care for emotes and so I’m mad they are forced on me and included in the crates. TBH they break immersion and don’t add anything to the game at least for me. Not to mention the credit system is dumb, buying crates takes too much time already with how stingy they are with the credits and then they fill the crates with silly things like emotes, now you have a ton of grinding to do just to get what you want. I have no clue why credits earned is match time based and not performance based that doesn’t make any sense and doesn’t give me any incentive to want to push up or play the objective. It doesn’t matter how well I do because I’m rewarded the same as a bad player.


    So I didn’t place the Space Assault game mode at the time of writing this but I did enjoy the game mode in the beta and I think it’s the best part of the game IMO and was going to be one of the few reasons I’d consider buying Battlefront at full price, but as of now I won’t be.


    Overall I feel the game is bad and I wouldn't buy it at full price, honestly this has nothing to do with the loot crate issues. I just don’t like the game, in my opinion adding more stuff doesn’t make a game more in-depth and while I am glad the game now spans all eras and has a lot more content it doesn’t really change the fact I find the gunplay and the overall experience unrewarding and lackluster.

    Even tho i almost wholly disagree with most of your points, this is a constructive criticism in your opinion and should not be censored but, if it was i'm not surprised after my personal treatment around deez parts.
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  • RedReVenge wrote: »
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    Stop complaining and #gitgud or quit playing.
    This forum “git gud” trend is the worse trend so far. It’s even worse than the constant mod tagging. :/

    Honestly, I've never seen so many whiners in my life.

    This game is great, but people will always find something to complain about. First it was the high costed heroes, then it was lootcrates, now its internal imbalance/star cards.

    Learn the game and you will do great.

    Everyone thinks they matter. The internet has truly ruined the world. Heavy sense of self importance gets old. We're all nothing but atoms in this universe. I'll continue to defend the game, because I enjoy it. As far as the forum goes, thread after thread after thread of saying the game is gonna fail , this or that, I'm tired of it. So I'm going to act accordingly.
  • mastery0ta wrote: »
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    Stop complaining and #gitgud or quit playing.
    This forum “git gud” trend is the worse trend so far. It’s even worse than the constant mod tagging. :/

    Honestly, I've never seen so many whiners in my life.

    This game is great, but people will always find something to complain about. First it was the high costed heroes, then it was lootcrates, now its internal imbalance/star cards.

    Learn the game and you will do great.

    Everyone thinks they matter. The internet has truly ruined the world. Heavy sense of self importance gets old. We're all nothing but atoms in this universe. I'll continue to defend the game, because I enjoy it. As far as the forum goes, thread after thread after thread of saying the game is gonna fail , this or that, I'm tired of it. So I'm going to act accordingly.

    Agreed my friend.

    I post on the negative threads for the laughs.

    Otherwise, I post constructive criticism.
  • RedReVenge wrote: »
    mastery0ta wrote: »
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    RedReVenge wrote: »
    Stop complaining and #gitgud or quit playing.
    This forum “git gud” trend is the worse trend so far. It’s even worse than the constant mod tagging. :/

    Honestly, I've never seen so many whiners in my life.

    This game is great, but people will always find something to complain about. First it was the high costed heroes, then it was lootcrates, now its internal imbalance/star cards.

    Learn the game and you will do great.

    Everyone thinks they matter. The internet has truly ruined the world. Heavy sense of self importance gets old. We're all nothing but atoms in this universe. I'll continue to defend the game, because I enjoy it. As far as the forum goes, thread after thread after thread of saying the game is gonna fail , this or that, I'm tired of it. So I'm going to act accordingly.

    Agreed my friend.

    I post on the negative threads for the laughs.

    Otherwise, I post constructive criticism.

    The lulz are excellent here. Good to see you revenge
  • @HippoZoned

    I checked to see your post history and I saw that your thread that you are talking about was not censored, or locked, or removed or anything actually.

    Its still there with no changes whatsoever done to it so far. And if you dont believe me, check your topics section on your profile and see for yourself. So either you are trolling here on purpose, or you simply failed to see that your thread dropped from the first page and no one replied to it and if that is the case........ that is something we can not control and its up to the community if they are interested in your thread or not.

    This thread on the other hand is discussion of moderation and yes, it is getting a lock. If you troll like this again, you will get a time out so I advise you to not do it.

    Closed.
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