Avengers End Game and MCU discussion

MyLittleGreenFriend

rollind24 wrote: »

ok so the movie was great but can anyone explain why Dr Strange was able to use the portals to get back to the final battle after being revived? why didn’t he do that when he wanted to go back to Earth when he was stuck on the ship after Maw died? It bugged me in Infinity War why he didn’t use them to get back so why was he able to in Endgame?

This is a terrible answer but maybe DS needs to be on a planet to use those powers? The masters of the mystic arts live in a monastery and are very connected to nature so he might need to be surrounded by a natural environment.

AzorAhai

rollind24 wrote: »

ok so the movie was great but can anyone explain why Dr Strange was able to use the portals to get back to the final battle after being revived? why didn’t he do that when he wanted to go back to Earth when he was stuck on the ship after Maw died? It bugged me in Infinity War why he didn’t use them to get back so why was he able to in Endgame?

Good question. Could he possibly have subconsciously thought that going to Titan was the right move? Or maybe he needed to go into astral space and contact Wong for an assist.

AzorAhai

I see that Hulu is working on adding a Ghost Rider series, and a Helstrom series to add alongside Runaways.

I've never used Hulu, but I read that Disney + would not only be offered alone, but also a bundle option with Hulu and ESPN+.

DarthJ

AzorAhai wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

ok so the movie was great but can anyone explain why Dr Strange was able to use the portals to get back to the final battle after being revived? why didn’t he do that when he wanted to go back to Earth when he was stuck on the ship after Maw died? It bugged me in Infinity War why he didn’t use them to get back so why was he able to in Endgame?

Good question. Could he possibly have subconsciously thought that going to Titan was the right move? Or maybe he needed to go into astral space and contact Wong for an assist.

@AzorAhai @rollind24

was it not just a case of he had to play it out in the exact way he saw them win when he was looking through the possibilities of Endgame? Maybe saw himself doing that? I dunno [\spoiler]

rollind24

DarthJ wrote: »

AzorAhai wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

ok so the movie was great but can anyone explain why Dr Strange was able to use the portals to get back to the final battle after being revived? why didn’t he do that when he wanted to go back to Earth when he was stuck on the ship after Maw died? It bugged me in Infinity War why he didn’t use them to get back so why was he able to in Endgame?

Good question. Could he possibly have subconsciously thought that going to Titan was the right move? Or maybe he needed to go into astral space and contact Wong for an assist.

@AzorAhai @rollind24

was it not just a case of he had to play it out in the exact way he saw them win when he was looking through the possibilities of Endgame? Maybe saw himself doing that? I dunno [\spoiler]

Maybe but he hadn’t viewed all those outcomes until he reached Titan.

VaderFist501st

As someone who greatly dislikes TR, I thought Thor was a little too comedic in this film for my tastes. But the scenes with his mother were amazing and easily one of my favorite scenes in the film.

WarfareKiller41

VaderFist501st wrote: »

As someone who greatly dislikes TR, I thought Thor was a little too comedic in this film for my tastes. But the scenes with his mother were amazing and easily one of my favorite scenes in the film.

Yeah, Thor's scenes with Frigga actually made me like The Dark World more

AzorAhai

VaderFist501st wrote: »

As someone who greatly dislikes TR, I thought Thor was a little too comedic in this film for my tastes. But the scenes with his mother were amazing and easily one of my favorite scenes in the film.

It's a fairly common criticism in this thread. But I didn't mind all the humor. Ragnarok is one of my favorite MCU movies. Thor's been through a lot, and End Game movie had some heavy emotion in it. I particularly thought the Asgardians of the Galaxy scene at the end was needed...great comic relief after all that had come before.

I think it may have actually helped the movie be a little more family friendly, I don't know.

rollind24

AzorAhai wrote: »

VaderFist501st wrote: »

As someone who greatly dislikes TR, I thought Thor was a little too comedic in this film for my tastes. But the scenes with his mother were amazing and easily one of my favorite scenes in the film.

It's a fairly common criticism in this thread. But I didn't mind all the humor. Ragnarok is one of my favorite MCU movies. Thor's been through a lot, and End Game movie had some heavy emotion in it. I particularly thought the Asgardians of the Galaxy scene at the end was needed...great comic relief after all that had come before.

I think it may have actually helped the movie be a little more family friendly, I don't know.

I didn’t mind it either. His character arc reflected his personal opinions on playing Thor also, especially what his mother said to him. He felt forced into being King of Asgard, wasn’t having fun etc. Now he can have fun with it and enjoy himself. Glad we get to keep Hemsworth a while longer.

Mastahpeece

Doctor Strange 2 concept art

rollind24

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rollind24

Ok this made me laugh

rollind24

Far From Home trailer. This one definitely has Endgame spoilers

AzorAhai

rollind24 wrote: »

Far From Home trailer. This one definitely has Endgame spoilers

I rewatched Homecoming for the first time last night. Just an incredible movie. I'm prepared to call it the equal of Spider-man 2, which has been my favorite Spider-man movie since I first saw it when it came out.

rollind24

AzorAhai wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Far From Home trailer. This one definitely has Endgame spoilers

I rewatched Homecoming for the first time last night. Just an incredible movie. I'm prepared to call it the equal of Spider-man 2, which has been my favorite Spider-man movie since I first saw it when it came out.

Yea I did really like Homecoming. I have to say the first trailer for FFH didn’t leave me to excited, we had Endgame coming up so hard to top excitement for that and either way I was gonna be there opening weekend since it’s Spiderman. After this trailer though I’m sold again. Can’t wait to see how they play Mysterio, looks to be set up for a long arc rather than a one off.

AzorAhai

rollind24 wrote: »

AzorAhai wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Far From Home trailer. This one definitely has Endgame spoilers

I rewatched Homecoming for the first time last night. Just an incredible movie. I'm prepared to call it the equal of Spider-man 2, which has been my favorite Spider-man movie since I first saw it when it came out.

Yea I did really like Homecoming. I have to say the first trailer for FFH didn’t leave me to excited, we had Endgame coming up so hard to top excitement for that and either way I was gonna be there opening weekend since it’s Spiderman. After this trailer though I’m sold again. Can’t wait to see how they play Mysterio, looks to be set up for a long arc rather than a one off.

I can't wait to see it.

AzorAhai

rollind24 wrote: »

AzorAhai wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Far From Home trailer. This one definitely has Endgame spoilers

I rewatched Homecoming for the first time last night. Just an incredible movie. I'm prepared to call it the equal of Spider-man 2, which has been my favorite Spider-man movie since I first saw it when it came out.

Yea I did really like Homecoming. I have to say the first trailer for FFH didn’t leave me to excited, we had Endgame coming up so hard to top excitement for that and either way I was gonna be there opening weekend since it’s Spiderman. After this trailer though I’m sold again. Can’t wait to see how they play Mysterio, looks to be set up for a long arc rather than a one off.

This just dawned on me.

There was a 5 issue limited series in the comics called Spider-men. And it was basically Spider-man (Peter Parker) of Earth 616 teaming up with the Spider-man of the Ultimate Universe (Miles Morales) to stop Mysterio, who'd found a way to hop between worlds.

MyLittleGreenFriend

AzorAhai wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

AzorAhai wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Far From Home trailer. This one definitely has Endgame spoilers

I rewatched Homecoming for the first time last night. Just an incredible movie. I'm prepared to call it the equal of Spider-man 2, which has been my favorite Spider-man movie since I first saw it when it came out.

Yea I did really like Homecoming. I have to say the first trailer for FFH didn’t leave me to excited, we had Endgame coming up so hard to top excitement for that and either way I was gonna be there opening weekend since it’s Spiderman. After this trailer though I’m sold again. Can’t wait to see how they play Mysterio, looks to be set up for a long arc rather than a one off.

This just dawned on me.

There was a 5 issue limited series in the comics called Spider-men. And it was basically Spider-man (Peter Parker) of Earth 616 teaming up with the Spider-man of the Ultimate Universe (Miles Morales) to stop Mysterio, who'd found a way to hop between worlds.

Interesting... Spider Verse was very popular, so maybe... but as shown by Endgame, Marvel isn't afraid to go in a different direction then the comics.

AzorAhai

MyLittleGreenFriend wrote: »

AzorAhai wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

AzorAhai wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Far From Home trailer. This one definitely has Endgame spoilers

I rewatched Homecoming for the first time last night. Just an incredible movie. I'm prepared to call it the equal of Spider-man 2, which has been my favorite Spider-man movie since I first saw it when it came out.

Yea I did really like Homecoming. I have to say the first trailer for FFH didn’t leave me to excited, we had Endgame coming up so hard to top excitement for that and either way I was gonna be there opening weekend since it’s Spiderman. After this trailer though I’m sold again. Can’t wait to see how they play Mysterio, looks to be set up for a long arc rather than a one off.

This just dawned on me.

There was a 5 issue limited series in the comics called Spider-men. And it was basically Spider-man (Peter Parker) of Earth 616 teaming up with the Spider-man of the Ultimate Universe (Miles Morales) to stop Mysterio, who'd found a way to hop between worlds.

Interesting... Spider Verse was very popular, so maybe... but as shown by Endgame, Marvel isn't afraid to go in a different direction then the comics.

The MCU is different than the comics. It's a different parallel earth, but it's all taking place in the same multi-verse that the comics are in.

But it appears that Mysterio will be a dimension hopper, like in the comics. That's all I'm saying.

(this is a relatively new development in the history of Mysterio...2012...up until that trailer, I had no idea at all that this would be a thing...I was expecting more of a 'classic' Mysterio...this pleases me more though)

rollind24

I’m not sure how long the spoiler embargo here is for

UNSANE_fan75

Question regarding endgame. Spoiler ahead!

So, when Hulk snapped and brought back the fallen people, did they actually come from the exact moment they were dusted? From their perspective, did they just fall on the ground in Wakanda (or Titan, or wherever) and then just like wake up and realize they were on a new battlefield and had to fight? Just curious, I've only seen it once and it was opening night so it's kinda hazy now. Asking for a friend, not me, seriously. lol

rollind24

UNSANE_fan75 wrote: »

Question regarding endgame. Spoiler ahead!

So, when Hulk snapped and brought back the fallen people, did they actually come from the exact moment they were dusted? From their perspective, did they just fall on the ground in Wakanda (or Titan, or wherever) and then just like wake up and realize they were on a new battlefield and had to fight? Just curious, I've only seen it once and it was opening night so it's kinda hazy now. Asking for a friend, not me, seriously. lol

Thats what it sounded like to me. Peter was explaining to Tony something along the lines of him turning to dust then waking up. And I think Dr Strange was there to explain they had to get back to help. Which makes sense since he knew where they had to go after viewing all those outcomes

Maliainu

rollind24 wrote: »

UNSANE_fan75 wrote: »

Question regarding endgame. Spoiler ahead!

So, when Hulk snapped and brought back the fallen people, did they actually come from the exact moment they were dusted? From their perspective, did they just fall on the ground in Wakanda (or Titan, or wherever) and then just like wake up and realize they were on a new battlefield and had to fight? Just curious, I've only seen it once and it was opening night so it's kinda hazy now. Asking for a friend, not me, seriously. lol

Thats what it sounded like to me. Peter was explaining to Tony something along the lines of him turning to dust then waking up. And I think Dr Strange was there to explain they had to get back to help. Which makes sense since he knew where they had to go after viewing all those outcomes

Yeah. Dr. Strange became the guide for all of them who had been dusted. That’s why we see his portals he opened to allow for the return. If he did not guide them in whatever realm they were existing in, they would have lost to Thanos all over again.

He, along with the surviving Avengers, were trying to ensure that this wouldn’t happen. That this battle would be the 1 of the 14 million chances that is successful.

UNSANE_fan75

Maliainu wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

UNSANE_fan75 wrote: »

Question regarding endgame. Spoiler ahead!

So, when Hulk snapped and brought back the fallen people, did they actually come from the exact moment they were dusted? From their perspective, did they just fall on the ground in Wakanda (or Titan, or wherever) and then just like wake up and realize they were on a new battlefield and had to fight? Just curious, I've only seen it once and it was opening night so it's kinda hazy now. Asking for a friend, not me, seriously. lol

Thats what it sounded like to me. Peter was explaining to Tony something along the lines of him turning to dust then waking up. And I think Dr Strange was there to explain they had to get back to help. Which makes sense since he knew where they had to go after viewing all those outcomes

Yeah. Dr. Strange became the guide for all of them who had been dusted. That’s why we see his portals he opened to allow for the return. If he did not guide them in whatever realm they were existing in, they would have lost to Thanos all over again.

He, along with the surviving Avengers, were trying to ensure that this wouldn’t happen. That this battle would be the 1 of the 14 million chances that is successful.

Cool, that's what I was looking for. I remember that stuff now. Thanks very much, both of you's. Enjoy a cookie!

MyLittleGreenFriend

I have another question.

Won't Spider-Man be five years younger than all his classmates that weren't killed in the snap?

AzorAhai

MyLittleGreenFriend wrote: »

I have another question.

Won't Spider-Man be five years younger than all his classmates that weren't killed in the snap?

I considered this after I saw the movie, and I've come to the conclusion that any recurring classmates from Homecoming also didn't survive Thanos' first snap of his fingers.

UNSANE_fan75

AzorAhai wrote: »

MyLittleGreenFriend wrote: »

I have another question.

Won't Spider-Man be five years younger than all his classmates that weren't killed in the snap?

I considered this after I saw the movie, and I've come to the conclusion that any recurring classmates from Homecoming also didn't survive Thanos' first snap of his fingers.

ooh, I think I read about this one:

Some of his classmates are already in college, but Ned, Betty and MJ were decimated, so they are still his age.
(ha, I read that as Ned Beatty, Mister Luthor! lol 1978 Superman, anyone?)

AzorAhai

UNSANE_fan75 wrote: »

AzorAhai wrote: »

MyLittleGreenFriend wrote: »

I have another question.

Won't Spider-Man be five years younger than all his classmates that weren't killed in the snap?

I considered this after I saw the movie, and I've come to the conclusion that any recurring classmates from Homecoming also didn't survive Thanos' first snap of his fingers.

ooh, I think I read about this one:

Some of his classmates are already in college, but Ned, Betty and MJ were decimated, so they are still his age.
(ha, I read that as Ned Beatty, Mister Luthor! lol 1978 Superman, anyone?)

makes sense.

MyLittleGreenFriend

UNSANE_fan75 wrote: »

AzorAhai wrote: »

MyLittleGreenFriend wrote: »

I have another question.

Won't Spider-Man be five years younger than all his classmates that weren't killed in the snap?

I considered this after I saw the movie, and I've come to the conclusion that any recurring classmates from Homecoming also didn't survive Thanos' first snap of his fingers.

ooh, I think I read about this one:

Some of his classmates are already in college, but Ned, Betty and MJ were decimated, so they are still his age.
(ha, I read that as Ned Beatty, Mister Luthor! lol 1978 Superman, anyone?)

That's gotta be it.

WarfareKiller41

The Marvel Studios subreddit ended their spoiler period, so can we be done with the spoiler tags as well?

VaderFist501st

WarfareKiller41 wrote: »

The Marvel Studios subreddit ended their spoiler period, so can we be done with the spoiler tags as well?

Yeah I would assume so I’ll just post a major spoiler to start us off.....


Thanos is purple

BeastlyCrawdad

VaderFist501st wrote: »

WarfareKiller41 wrote: »

The Marvel Studios subreddit ended their spoiler period, so can we be done with the spoiler tags as well?

Yeah I would assume so I’ll just post a major spoiler to start us off.....


Thanos is purple

Yeah, with a bald head.

JadeRaptor64

BeastlyCrawdad wrote: »

VaderFist501st wrote: »

WarfareKiller41 wrote: »

The Marvel Studios subreddit ended their spoiler period, so can we be done with the spoiler tags as well?

Yeah I would assume so I’ll just post a major spoiler to start us off.....


Thanos is purple

Yeah, with a bald head.

And a nasty chin.

Maliainu

WarfareKiller41 wrote: »

The Marvel Studios subreddit ended their spoiler period, so can we be done with the spoiler tags as well?

Sure! I was trying to still be respectful.

AzorAhai

Last weekend, I finally got my daughter to watch Guardians of the Galaxy with me, and a couple days ago we watched Vol 2.

It's the first time I've seen that one since I saw it in the theater, and I enjoyed a lot more than I did the first time.

I must've carried some life stress into that first viewing with me, because I remember it not being nearly as good as the first one.

Now I've changed my mind. I would now call it every bit the equal of the first one.

Side note: These movies have a LOT more sexual innuendo than the rest of the MCU movies do.

rollind24

AzorAhai wrote: »

Last weekend, I finally got my daughter to watch Guardians of the Galaxy with me, and a couple days ago we watched Vol 2.

It's the first time I've seen that one since I saw it in the theater, and I enjoyed a lot more than I did the first time.

I must've carried some life stress into that first viewing with me, because I remember it not being nearly as good as the first one.

Now I've changed my mind. I would now call it every bit the equal of the first one.

Side note: These movies have a LOT more sexual innuendo than the rest of the MCU movies do.

GoG are my favorite MCU franchise. There’s a lot of deep character growth between a lot of the characters that I think gets lost between the jokes

rollind24

Is anyone else excited to see what Square Enix is revealing tonight?

lowell

rollind24 wrote: »

Is anyone else excited to see what Square Enix is revealing tonight?

Honestly, Battlefront II is looking better as a live service since we never had any exclusive like the Rogue One PSVR experience. This Avengers game looks average but I'm guessing Sony paid to keep Spider-Man as an exclusive hostage for this game only to PS4 users.

Trailer:



Presentation (has more footage and exclusive details):

WarfareKiller41

lowell wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Is anyone else excited to see what Square Enix is revealing tonight?

Honestly, Battlefront II is looking better as a live service since we never had any exclusive like the Rogue One PSVR experience. This Avengers game looks average but I'm guessing Sony paid to keep Spider-Man as an exclusive hostage for this game only to PS4 users.

Trailer:



Presentation (has more footage and exclusive details):

Disappointing tbh. Pretty sure it's been almost 2 years since the last teaser and that's all we get? Can't take away too much from it since there's no gameplay, but the graphics are just painfully average at best. I know graphics don't determine a game's quality, but come on.

lowell

WarfareKiller41 wrote: »

lowell wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Is anyone else excited to see what Square Enix is revealing tonight?

Honestly, Battlefront II is looking better as a live service since we never had any exclusive like the Rogue One PSVR experience. This Avengers game looks average but I'm guessing Sony paid to keep Spider-Man as an exclusive hostage for this game only to PS4 users.

Trailer:



Presentation (has more footage and exclusive details):

Disappointing tbh. Pretty sure it's been almost 2 years since the last teaser and that's all we get? Can't take away too much from it since there's no gameplay, but the graphics are just painfully average at best. I know graphics don't determine a game's quality, but come on.

Some people have said the studio must've just ported the Marvel mobile game models over and fused them together and called it a new game. I'm still waiting to see what comes next and I'm confused how the story is going to be spread between both single-player offline and multiplayer online.

SamHJ7

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

WarfareKiller41 wrote: »

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

WarfareKiller41 wrote: »

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

Trooper8059 wrote: »

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

Alright, here's my full spoiler review

It was okay

If judging it as a standalone film, I agree. It heavily relies on previous knowledge of the universe itself, and is a real hit or miss because of that. But then again, there's not much else they could've done in terms of it. Restablishing character traits would not only get repetitive, but it would also feel out of place. It's very much an experimental film in not just it's structure, but in how it plays out as well.

What I think they did right was that there really is something in there for most people. Don't care about the characters? Then there's action. Not one for action? There's comedy there too. And so on and so forth. I don't think anyone could call it a boring movie.

For something that was supposed to be the 10 year anniversary film of the MCU, it just didn't feel special. It felt like an above average Marvel movie. Not saying it was bad, but it didn't feel like it was a big start of the conclusion of the MCU. I can garuntee for a fact that I'll like part 2 more, but part 1 was just alright. Winter Soldier still is, and always will be the best MCU film, no contest.

Winter Soldier is imo the most underrated of the MCU.

Its easily my favorite, and should be considered one of, if not the best MCU films. The Cap trilogy itself is easily my favorite of the MCU, and one of my favorite movie trilogies.

Lol, I just realized that Bucky in Winter Soldier is your profile picture.

Yup :P I love me some Bucky. Planning to see if a welder friend of mine can make me a metal arm so I can start cosplaying him.

But despite being such a huge fan of Bucky, I felt nothing when he "died", because other than being near certain none of those characters are dead, Bucky is 100% going to become Captain America after Chris Evan's contract is up.

This aged well

rollind24

WarfareKiller41 wrote: »

lowell wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Is anyone else excited to see what Square Enix is revealing tonight?

Honestly, Battlefront II is looking better as a live service since we never had any exclusive like the Rogue One PSVR experience. This Avengers game looks average but I'm guessing Sony paid to keep Spider-Man as an exclusive hostage for this game only to PS4 users.

Trailer:



Presentation (has more footage and exclusive details):

Disappointing tbh. Pretty sure it's been almost 2 years since the last teaser and that's all we get? Can't take away too much from it since there's no gameplay, but the graphics are just painfully average at best. I know graphics don't determine a game's quality, but come on.

I have to agree. I wasn’t expecting the characters to look like the MCU counterparts but they just look weird to me. I’ll have to wait and see how the gameplay is I guess.

Mastahpeece

Looks like they’re trying too hard to copy the movies. Part of the reason I love Spider-Man PS4’s take on the characters is that they make it their own and don’t copy the films

Dialogue is yuck

And it’s a live service game 🙄

Not looking great so far imo

rollind24

Mastahpeece wrote: »

Dialogue is yuck

Tony, “Did Thor just make a joke!?”

That’s fine if they want to create their own thing but they must have created that line years ago?

2000sGuy

I like to be completely honest with stuff and not censor anything... and this game looks like hot garbage. Made me NOT want to buy it if anything

First their looks: they look like kmart avengers. They look like they took the movie designs but distorted them to try and male them their own thing. For reference when I see insomniac’s spiderman im like “hey thats spidey from ps4!” When i see whatever this company’s name is’ captain america im gonna be like “oh”. Look at Injustice 2. They made their suits unique but the characters actually resemble their classic looks (aside from WW).

I honestly had trouble identifying Cap in the trailer, like wtf was is that design

And the graphics They just look too bland. Also if they wanted to make this their own definitive version of the avengers why did they try so hard to match it to the mcu? They coulda changed the roster up and have wasp instead of widow.
Also the characterization with stuff like the banter and chemistry... was painful. Also i dont like the idea of Nolan North being Tony stark. They got Travis and Laura back i dont know why they didnt get Roger Craig Smith and Adrian Pasar back

Overall they this looks like a hodgepodge of trying to copy other stuff while not making it unique enough. Also i have no idea what this game is going to be about... i heard something about playing online, adding updates, but whats the meat and potatoes?

2000sGuy

rollind24 wrote: »

Mastahpeece wrote: »

Dialogue is yuck

Tony, “Did Thor just make a joke!?”

That’s fine if they want to create their own thing but they must have created that line years ago?

That type of banter seems to resemble the avengers assemble cartoon where thor isnt as whitty

Yet they have that scene of bruce and tony arguing like its inspired from the mcu.
To me this shows me that they dont have a clear idea of what direction they want to take

DarthJ

Yeah....graphics look poor. Characters look bloated? Looks like Spider-Man will still be the only contender to trying to take DC on in the gaming stakes. The Arkham series is still superior, and doesnt feel like it ages when playing it.

Cadoth

Quick question: am I the only one who went completely nuts when Scarlet witch landed in front of Thanos?

AzorAhai

So they're rereleasing Endgame with added footage and there's a rumor going around that there may be a post-credits scene related to the Fantastic Four.

Darth_Vapor3

AzorAhai wrote: »

So they're rereleasing Endgame with added footage and there's a rumor going around that there may be a post-credits scene related to the Fantastic Four.

Dude... You are the man. The Guru.