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Leia’s shot needs a distance nerf

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Jbstiner
2652 posts Member
Seriously. That thing is nothing but spam on any map with a long line of sight (I’m looking at you Crait and Hoth). Either drop the distance or make the homing shot less accurate.
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  • Haven't figured out how to make it work on Hoth. Shoot at a player...NOPE...there's a turret behind him so lets target that instead...
  • rollind24
    4893 posts Member
    I’ve noticed it’s quite effective on 3rd phase of Kashykk also
    #infantrylivesmatter
  • IAJ24I
    48 posts Member
    worry about more content than nerfs, thanks. bring a villain out to counter her secondary fire..problem solved.
  • Jbstiner
    2652 posts Member
    IAJ24I wrote: »
    worry about more content than nerfs, thanks. bring a villain out to counter her secondary fire..problem solved.
    How about you worry about content and I’ll worry about nerds, that way all of our bases are covered... ;)
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  • Devlin21
    8294 posts Member
    rollind24 wrote: »
    I’ve noticed it’s quite effective on 3rd phase of Kashykk also

    Interesting. The clones might stand a chance now if i use that.
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  • Jbstiner
    2652 posts Member
    rollind24 wrote: »
    I’ve noticed it’s quite effective on 3rd phase of Kashykk also

    Forgot about that one. Had someone doing that earlier. Fun times...
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  • Jbstiner
    2652 posts Member
    OGPOTUS wrote: »
    Jbstiner wrote: »
    IAJ24I wrote: »
    worry about more content than nerfs, thanks. bring a villain out to counter her secondary fire..problem solved.
    How about you worry about content and I’ll worry about nerds, that way all of our bases are covered... ;)

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    DOH!
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  • MWB33
    1348 posts Member
    OGPOTUS wrote: »
    Jbstiner wrote: »
    IAJ24I wrote: »
    worry about more content than nerfs, thanks. bring a villain out to counter her secondary fire..problem solved.
    How about you worry about content and I’ll worry about nerds, that way all of our bases are covered... ;)

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  • Jbstiner
    2652 posts Member
    MWB33 wrote: »
    OGPOTUS wrote: »
    Jbstiner wrote: »
    IAJ24I wrote: »
    worry about more content than nerfs, thanks. bring a villain out to counter her secondary fire..problem solved.
    How about you worry about content and I’ll worry about nerds, that way all of our bases are covered... ;)

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    +1000 hues for Revenge of the Nerds gif. Ogre FTW!
    I haven’t heard that name in a long, long time...
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  • t3hBar0n
    5000 posts Member
    I think it is fine and I can't remember the last time I died to it... and if I recall correctly, a dev recently tweeted that they like where Leia is at as well.
  • bev1
    312 posts Member
    Can really bomb the landing pad on phase 1 Jakku
  • rollind24
    4893 posts Member
    rollind24 wrote: »
    I’ve noticed it’s quite effective on 3rd phase of Kashykk also

    Interesting. The clones might stand a chance now if i use that.

    Yea I had someone using Leia in the bunker just picking people off attempting to get in. Probably not as effective as other maps because of the short distance to get to cover once in the bunker.
    #infantrylivesmatter
  • I'd gladly take a 60% lock-on distance reduction for faster charge up time
  • Rogue_Theologian
    229 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    Just make the accuracy and/or damage decrease proportionally over distance. A pistol shouldn’t be that accurate over medium range to begin with. And up to that it’s still an auto lock installed kill, a respectable ability.
  • Just make the accuracy and/or damage decrease proportionally over distance. A pistol shouldn’t be that accurate over medium range to begin with. And up to that it’s still an auto lock installed kill, a respectable ability.

    Well it's a homing pistol which doesn't even exist in the fictional universe upon which it is based so...
  • MLGGrandMasterBroda
    2910 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    I think it is fine and I can't remember the last time I died to it... and if I recall correctly, a dev recently tweeted that they like where Leia is at as well.

    I thought I saw Dennis post something on Twitter about Leia having the highest KDR amongst heroes and that she was getting a nerf, but I could be mistaken as it’s been a while. I’m more or less neutral on whether she actually needs anything though.
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  • Beeece
    337 posts Member
    Hoth you have to shoot towards the middle on Phase 1, Trashyyyk it works wonders on Phase 3 Crait its unstoppable all 3 phases, SBK its great at clearing the stairs in Phase 2. Proud Leia spammer.
  • t3hBar0n
    5000 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    I think it is fine and I can't remember the last time I died to it... and if I recall correctly, a dev recently tweeted that they like where Leia is at as well.

    I thought I saw Dennis post something on Twitter about Leia having the highest KDR amongst heroes and that she was getting a nerf, but I could be mistaken as it’s been a while. I’m more or less neutral on whether she actually needs anything though.

    He stated before patch 1.2 when talking about how people were complaining that Palpatine was overpowered that
    Fun Battlefront fact: Leia Organa has the highest average K/D in the game, even ahead of the Emperor himself
    I remember in the last week or 2 a dev stated that they were happy with where Leia was at currently, I am trying to find the exact statement.

    EDIT: Found it, it was in the 2.0 patch notes.
    We're happy with Leia's current gameplay but will look at her SQUAD SHIELD for Heroes vs. Villains in the future.
  • Her hair kills me way more than her blaster does.
  • It's amazing.. don't nerf it. People need to CHILL...

    But yeah her hair is awful in the main skin so I can only use her Hoth skin now.
  • I'd agree the range needs reducing a little. That she can snipe with her secondary from the hangar on Crait right across the map is a little op. No issue from mid to close range though, certainly no need to nerf her shot. No different from being choked by Vader or having Maul and his spin attack kill you. A kill is a kill.
  • No. Remove it.

    Homing abilities like this have no place in the game. It's like Landon power blast 2.0 without a cooldown.

    Instead her pistol should be made a more effective close range weapon and the e-11 should have no cooldown and made very accurate for long range use.
  • Leia is fine
    a fragile hero for sure when you get close to her
  • t3hBar0n wrote: »
    I can't remember the last time I died to it...
    Wat? You must be a very lucky guy!

  • IronSoldier
    3131 posts SWBF Senior Moderator
    edited March 2018
    It's fine. Maybe stop camping above ground on Crait with a sniper and you'll be okay. There are tunnels for a reason.
  • DarthJ
    5839 posts Member
    It's fine. Maybe stop camping above ground on Crait with a sniper and you'll be okay. There are tunnels for a reason.

    This. Half the time when I play Crait as FO, I am kills/points ahead of my teammates at times, purely because as an assault main I am sprinting through the tunnels (which Resistance are sometimes unhindered in using to shoot out missiles).
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  • It's fine. Maybe stop camping above ground on Crait with a sniper and you'll be okay. There are tunnels for a reason.

    Still doesn't remove the fact it is a skilless ability that can one shot.
  • It's fine. Maybe stop camping above ground on Crait with a sniper and you'll be okay. There are tunnels for a reason.
    Yeah **** snipers, they aren't already bad enough, they also need an auto aim ability without cooldown that can oneshot them from miles away
  • rollind24 wrote: »
    I’ve noticed it’s quite effective on 3rd phase of Kashykk also

    Interesting. The clones might stand a chance now if i use that.

    until the droids bring out a tank or two ...
  • It's fine. Maybe stop camping above ground on Crait with a sniper and you'll be okay. There are tunnels for a reason.

    Still doesn't remove the fact it is a skilless ability that can one shot.

    there are heaps of skill-less abilities

    - star fighter proton torpedoes on objective area/choke points
    - explosive shots from any weapon
    - bossk mines and grenades and dioxis
    - iden stun droid and bombs
    - han solo bombs
    - at-st and other vehicles
    - turrets
    - palpatine chain lightning and 2 handed lightning
    - finn aimbot

    leia is easily taken out with explosives and tanks
    nothing to see here
    leave leia alone
  • It's fine. Maybe stop camping above ground on Crait with a sniper and you'll be okay. There are tunnels for a reason.


    Watching a Leia player on your own team sat back using it is just as obnoxious

    I rarely die above ground on crait as I'm straight in those trenches because its fun as ****, but someone inevitably becomes Leia and starts the usual tedious affair of hiding as far away as possible while doing the usual... to the point I won't even see leia till the final phase as I'm always at or around the front.

    This type of play adds absolutely nothing to the game.

  • It's fine. Maybe stop camping above ground on Crait with a sniper and you'll be okay. There are tunnels for a reason.

    Still doesn't remove the fact it is a skilless ability that can one shot.

    there are heaps of skill-less abilities

    - star fighter proton torpedoes on objective area/choke points
    - explosive shots from any weapon
    - bossk mines and grenades and dioxis
    - iden stun droid and bombs
    - han solo bombs
    - at-st and other vehicles
    - turrets
    - palpatine chain lightning and 2 handed lightning
    - finn aimbot

    leia is easily taken out with explosives and tanks
    nothing to see here
    leave leia alone

    Yes. And I have an issue with this stuff as well if it is powerful and comes with no risk.
  • It's fine. Maybe stop camping above ground on Crait with a sniper and you'll be okay. There are tunnels for a reason.

    Isn't that exactly what she is doing? With an easy homing shot I might add. Correct me if I am wrong but your saying don't do something that takes timing and some skill but it's prefectly ok to do something skilless and easy?
  • avmav
    532 posts Member
    Yeah is a bit ridiculous...should take a couple of shots to kill from far distance. Why they make the game like this I have no idea!! Krenic was a camping machine on 2015
  • IronSoldier
    3131 posts SWBF Senior Moderator
    edited March 2018
    Seros wrote: »
    Isn't that exactly what she is doing? With an easy homing shot I might add. Correct me if I am wrong but your saying don't do something that takes timing and some skill but it's prefectly ok to do something skilless and easy?

    Im totally against any kind of lock-on/stun/skilless ability. My issue however in this case is more so with the snipers on Crait than the lockon ability Leia has. The snipers aren't really playing the objective for the first part in the sense they ain't gonna be stopping someone from launching the rockets from the trenches, just the odd people who pops up in the open unaware. If perhaps people stopped using the snipers camping at the back of the map and played aggressively for the objective there would be no need for the AT-STs on Crait which are pure abuse.
  • nas9091
    118 posts Member
    Very much like Krennic in swbf2015 but its so much fun. 2 shots to kill an enemy could be a solution rather than 1 which seems abit OP. Either that or reduce the distance like you said.
  • Remove the homing / lock-on function entirely and she becomes balanced again. Maybe give her a scope so she can still pick people at range with the same damage model. I tried her out on Endor last night and riding on top of the stolen AT-AT I was able to kill anyone who dared try and launch an Ion missile at us. It's a kill or assist every single shot. Broken beyond belief.
    Seros wrote: »
    Isn't that exactly what she is doing? With an easy homing shot I might add. Correct me if I am wrong but your saying don't do something that takes timing and some skill but it's prefectly ok to do something skilless and easy?

    Im totally against any kind of lock-on/stun/skilless ability. My issue however in this case is more so with the snipers on Crait than the lockon ability Leia has. The snipers aren't really playing the objective for the first part in the sense they ain't gonna be stopping someone from launching the rockets from the trenches, just the odd people who pops up in the open unaware. If perhaps people stopped using the snipers camping at the back of the map and played aggressively for the objective there would be no need for the AT-STs on Crait which are pure abuse.


    As FO I either snipe with NT-242 or play Heavy on Crait. I focus on the speeders and/or anyone popping up out of a trench to fire on the walkers.
  • Jbstiner
    2652 posts Member
    It's fine. Maybe stop camping above ground on Crait with a sniper and you'll be okay. There are tunnels for a reason.

    There are tunnels on Crait!!! Holy crow, I had no idea!!!

    Sarcasm aside, I'm not a masochist, so I don't play specialist, lol. I play officer as the FO and heavy as the Resistance.
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  • Blazur
    4460 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    Agreed, this ability is just poorly designed overall. Too often I find Leia players sniping on the opposite side of maps like Hoth and Kashyyk with ease.

    I'd be happy if they removed the tracking altogether. They saw what happened when Bobas rockets tracked in the last game, so they should've been able to anticipate the nuisance in this game as well. Auto aim and stun hero abilities = no fun.
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  • BOSSK's mines actually make a beep sound if you get close to them , they can be avoided and there is a card that reduces gas damage.

    I always put mines on objectives so players have to either disarm/arm the objective by getting in them.

    Leia's aimbot secondary is RAGE inducing as Boba sometimes.
  • Danxoln
    2473 posts Member
    IAJ24I wrote: »
    worry about more content than nerfs, thanks. bring a villain out to counter her secondary fire..problem solved.

    I always thought Krennic would be a good counter to Leia
  • Devlin21
    8294 posts Member
    Danxoln wrote: »
    IAJ24I wrote: »
    worry about more content than nerfs, thanks. bring a villain out to counter her secondary fire..problem solved.

    I always thought Krennic would be a good counter to Leia

    Leia and krennic sniping each other from across the map.
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  • t3hBar0n
    5000 posts Member
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    I can't remember the last time I died to it...
    Wat? You must be a very lucky guy!

    Not luck, I treat moving in the game similarly to real life... as in I attempt to minimize my vulnerable vectors and long sightlines... this renders her alt fire almost completely useless. On Crait I am underground, on Hoth I am in the crevasses in the middle or sides, on Kashyyyk I am behind cover on the left side or in the grass on the right side... it is really easy to avoid areas where Leia would be good against you.
  • DrX2345
    2888 posts Member
    @t3hBar0n I get what you're saying, but the way you've described it makes it sound like you're some sort of special forces soldier irl lol.


    ...unless you are?
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  • Leia is a pain in the **** on like 3 maps but she can't dominate the round or take it over. if you Nerf her secondary fire she's basically an officer
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