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JackTHorn
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OFFICER CUSTOMIZATION PART 1: UNIFORMS
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As often seems to happen, they've painted themselves into a corner with appearances. For the Officer class, this mostly means uniform color, pauldrons, and armor (or lack thereof). Officers' skins need additional uniform color options, armored options at higher ranks, and pauldron options to show rank visually with armor.

So, let's start with the easy ones: simple canon color-swaps that actually create meaningful alternate appearances. This means uniforms. These need tweaks anyway, as one function of uniform color is to distinguish one faction's Officers from its opposing faction's Officers, yet the officers of the First Order and the Resistance (black and dark brown) look pretty similar at a glance. Simply lightening the Resistance uniform a bit would resolve this, but the other color options would help.

The other function of Officer uniform color is to show rank. In the game this can translate to class rank, and serve as a visual badge of achievement. The current default uniforms have only one color per faction, and for some reason the colors chosen are often high-ranking officers instead of low. So, to set up a good Officer customization system, the first task is to change the defaults.

The Clone Officer uniforms in canon are the least diverse, it's pretty much just the blue-gray uniforms we have in game now. However there's at least one other option -- the Clone Medical Officer in his grayish-white uniform. This could be the default, and would go well with the healing Command ability that every Officer starts out with. Then the blue-gray Clone Naval Officer uniform could be available at rank 20.
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The Droid Officer in canon is also minimally diverse. There's no canon fix that I'm aware of, but one option might be a sort of graduated marking system -- just yellow shoulder markings at first (default), then shoulders and torso (class level 30), then shoulders and torso and the circle on the head (class level 60).

The Imperial default is currently the Navy officer, which is most likely to be high-ranking if found in a ground battle. If the default gray Navy Officer uniform is recolored black, then we have the lowest-ranking Imperial Officer: the Stormtrooper Officer, a sort of squad leader, which is a far more sensible default. Make the uniform olive drab, and we have an Imperial Army Officer, higher rank than the black Stormtrooper Officer but fairly common to see on the field -- probably available at class level 30. Then finally we have the gray-uniformed Imperial Navy Officer, probably at class level 60. (These may seem like large gaps, but I'll be describing plenty of other Officer skins to bridge that.)
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Another Imperial option is to include ISB operatives as Officers. The ISB Officer in a white uniform jacket with black trousers might be available at class level 50, while the ISB Commander in dark crimson might be available at class level 70.

The current blue-and-tan default Rebel Officer skin, like the Imperial, is for some reason the high-ranking option. I suggest an all-tan version of this, the Lieutenant, as the new default. Then in the middle tier would be the Alliance Captain's uniform, which we've actually seen in-game as Leia's bodyguards in the 2015 Battlefront, perhaps available at class level 30. And the blue-and-tan Alliance Commanderuniform, wearable by Rebels of Major rank or higher, could be available at class level 60.
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The First Order uniform is the only one that is already appropriate for a default -- black uniforms denote a First Order Squad Leader, or possibly a Sergeant. A gray color-change gives us the First Order Captain, available at class level 30. And a dark teal-blue color-change would give us a First Order Major (or Colonel), available at class level 60. And making it dark grey would give us a First Order General or Admiral, possibly available at class level 90 if it ever goes that far.
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The default Resistance Officer should, I think, be the Resistance Medical Officer, in a dark brown vest over a white shirt. After that, a similar skin at a similar level is the Resistance Lieutenant, in a tan uniform with a brown vest and a red "dot" insignia (class level 5). A Resistance Captain would have an all-tan uniform and a red "I" insignia (class level 30), and the Resistance Major would have a light brown vest over a white shirt and a red "V" insignia (class level 60).

These are all simple, easy-to-make skins that even by themselves would give a lot of depth to Officer customization.

OFFICER UNIFORM SKINS

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  • You went with more details than me, but I had thoughts about officer customization too. Made about about it. =)
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  • kylenpain
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    JackTHorn wrote: »
    OFFICER CUSTOMIZATION PART 2: ARMOR AND PAULDRONS
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    Currently, the Officer class doesn't get armor. This is ostensibly to distinguish them visually from the other classes (though the Droid Officer is very hard to tell from the Assault Droid). While this works fine for the Imperials whose officers frequently led troopers in uniform, and is basically okay in the other factions, there really is no good reason they can't have armor options too, and still be visually distinguishable from other classes.

    As usual, they've painted themselves into a corner in this regard too. The main distinguishing characteristics for armored Officers in Star Wars are pauldrons, as well as kama and helmet visors for the Clones. And of course those have all been already handed out to other classes. Clone Heavies have been given the kama and helmet visor as well as a small pauldron, Clone Specialists have been given a medium pauldron, Imperial Stormtrooper Heavies have been given the black Corporal pauldron, First Order Stormtrooper Heavies have been given the black Sergeant pauldron, and the First Order Aerial has been given the red Captain Pauldron.

    Now, there's two lines of thinking about this conundrum. On one hand, they could just leave it, and say that in order to be a Heavy or an Aerial trooper you have to achieve one of the low officer ranks. In the same way that the 2005 Pandemic Battlefront II had green-stripe Sergeants as Jet Troopers, blue-stripe Lieutenants as Heavies, and red-stripe Captains as Snipers. On the other hand, though, if visual distinction is so important then it might not be the best idea to have two or three of the other classes given the Officer's signature visual element.

    My suggestion is this: remove the Officer elements from the other classes and give them to the Officer class. In most cases they can be replaced with elements that provide at least as much visual distinction. For example, all Clone Officers with armor would have no helmet, to allow easier distinction from other clones; this also allows customization of head or face tattoos as seen in the show.

    The Clones have two sub-eras, phase-1 and phase-2. In phase 1, clone Officers were designated by color stripes -- green stripes for the Clone Sergeant (available at class level 15), blue stripes for the Clone Lieutenant (available at class level 35), and red stripes for the Clone Captain (available at class level 65).
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    But in phase 2 these markings weren't used, and instead they used pauldrons and a few other elements to designated rank. The Clone Sergeant has the small right-shoulder pauldron taken from the Clone Heavy. The Clone Lieutenant has the medium left-shoulder pauldron taken from the Clone Specialist. And the Clone Captain has a large left-shoulder pauldron. These pauldrons are usually black, sometimes with the legion color marked on part of it, though the small pauldron can also be wholly white, gray, or legion-colored. (As this section is for armor and pauldrons only, look for the visor and kama in the Misc section.)
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    Unless it can be are made available as a Reinforcements in its own right (which I hope it can), the ARC Captain might also be available as a Clone Officer skin (available at class level 70). This elite unit has red stripes, a long black kama, a rangefinder and visor on its helmet, and a full black pauldron with red markings on the left shoulder. (The blue-marked ARC Lieutenant would be a top-level Assault skin.)
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    The armored Officer for the Imperial side is simply the Stormtrooper with a pauldron, color indicating rank. For Imperials, a black pauldron indicates a Stormtrooper Corporal or Squad Leader (available at class level 15). A white pauldron indicates a Stormtrooper Sergeant (available at class level 30). An orange pauldron indicates a Stormtrooper Captain (available at class level 50). And a red pauldron indicates a Stormtrooper Commander (available at class level 70).
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    The Imperial Officers could also have an option that combines the uniforms and some light armor. There could be a Field Armor option for the black-uniformed Stormtrooper Officer, for the olive-uniformed Army Officer, and for the Grey-uniformed Navy Commander.
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    The armored Officer for the First Order side is also just the First Order Stormtrooper with a pauldron, color indicating rank. But the First Order color ranking works differently; they reverse the black and white pauldrons and omit the orange entirely. For them, a white pauldron indicates a First Order ST Corporal or Squad Leader (available at class level 20). A black pauldron indicates a First Order ST Sergeant (available at class level 40). And a red pauldron indicates a First Order ST Captain (available at class level 60).
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    OFFICER ARMOR & PAULDRONS

    the stripes is what the clone customization should be. also pauldrons, skirts, visors and armor for the clone officer
  • kylenpain
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    i feel the legion skins r pointless until we get more maps and heroes from the pt!
  • The sooner we can get officers is armour the better, even the outfit that blew up alderaan with the helmet would be good
  • Just to keep it simple:
    - Republic - Armour and attachments (pretty self explanatory)
    - CIS - Tactical Droid / Super Tactical Droid
    - Empire - Black, White, Grey uniforms with armour when applicable
    - Rebels - Aliens and Alderaan Guard uniform
    - First Order - Male option
    - Resistance - Aliens
    442nd And 332nd are the BEST
  • kylenpain
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    JackTHorn wrote: »
    kylenpain wrote: »
    JackTHorn wrote: »
    OFFICER CUSTOMIZATION PART 2: ARMOR AND PAULDRONS
    galactic_empire___stormtrooper_corps_by_jackaubreysw-dbnorqd.png

    Currently, the Officer class doesn't get armor. This is ostensibly to distinguish them visually from the other classes (though the Droid Officer is very hard to tell from the Assault Droid). While this works fine for the Imperials whose officers frequently led troopers in uniform, and is basically okay in the other factions, there really is no good reason they can't have armor options too, and still be visually distinguishable from other classes.

    As usual, they've painted themselves into a corner in this regard too. The main distinguishing characteristics for armored Officers in Star Wars are pauldrons, as well as kama and helmet visors for the Clones. And of course those have all been already handed out to other classes. Clone Heavies have been given the kama and helmet visor as well as a small pauldron, Clone Specialists have been given a medium pauldron, Imperial Stormtrooper Heavies have been given the black Corporal pauldron, First Order Stormtrooper Heavies have been given the black Sergeant pauldron, and the First Order Aerial has been given the red Captain Pauldron.

    Now, there's two lines of thinking about this conundrum. On one hand, they could just leave it, and say that in order to be a Heavy or an Aerial trooper you have to achieve one of the low officer ranks. In the same way that the 2005 Pandemic Battlefront II had green-stripe Sergeants as Jet Troopers, blue-stripe Lieutenants as Heavies, and red-stripe Captains as Snipers. On the other hand, though, if visual distinction is so important then it might not be the best idea to have two or three of the other classes given the Officer's signature visual element.

    My suggestion is this: remove the Officer elements from the other classes and give them to the Officer class. In most cases they can be replaced with elements that provide at least as much visual distinction. For example, all Clone Officers with armor would have no helmet, to allow easier distinction from other clones; this also allows customization of head or face tattoos as seen in the show.

    The Clones have two sub-eras, phase-1 and phase-2. In phase 1, clone Officers were designated by color stripes -- green stripes for the Clone Sergeant (available at class level 15), blue stripes for the Clone Lieutenant (available at class level 35), and red stripes for the Clone Captain (available at class level 65).
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    But in phase 2 these markings weren't used, and instead they used pauldrons and a few other elements to designated rank. The Clone Sergeant has the small right-shoulder pauldron taken from the Clone Heavy. The Clone Lieutenant has the medium left-shoulder pauldron taken from the Clone Specialist. And the Clone Captain has a large left-shoulder pauldron. These pauldrons are usually black, sometimes with the legion color marked on part of it, though the small pauldron can also be wholly white, gray, or legion-colored. (As this section is for armor and pauldrons only, look for the visor and kama in the Misc section.)
    p2 Clone Pauldrons

    Unless it can be are made available as a Reinforcements in its own right (which I hope it can), the ARC Captain might also be available as a Clone Officer skin (available at class level 70). This elite unit has red stripes, a long black kama, a rangefinder and visor on its helmet, and a full black pauldron with red markings on the left shoulder. (The blue-marked ARC Lieutenant would be a top-level Assault skin.)
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    The armored Officer for the Imperial side is simply the Stormtrooper with a pauldron, color indicating rank. For Imperials, a black pauldron indicates a Stormtrooper Corporal or Squad Leader (available at class level 15). A white pauldron indicates a Stormtrooper Sergeant (available at class level 30). An orange pauldron indicates a Stormtrooper Captain (available at class level 50). And a red pauldron indicates a Stormtrooper Commander (available at class level 70).
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    The Imperial Officers could also have an option that combines the uniforms and some light armor. There could be a Field Armor option for the black-uniformed Stormtrooper Officer, for the olive-uniformed Army Officer, and for the Grey-uniformed Navy Commander.
    2949a9616375fc4c19ba346a6738eb8a--hav-and-still.jpg

    The armored Officer for the First Order side is also just the First Order Stormtrooper with a pauldron, color indicating rank. But the First Order color ranking works differently; they reverse the black and white pauldrons and omit the orange entirely. For them, a white pauldron indicates a First Order ST Corporal or Squad Leader (available at class level 20). A black pauldron indicates a First Order ST Sergeant (available at class level 40). And a red pauldron indicates a First Order ST Captain (available at class level 60).
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    OFFICER ARMOR & PAULDRONS
    the stripes is what the clone customization should be. also pauldrons, skirts, visors and armor for the clone officer
    Yep, I figure clone customization should include a bunch of markings -- symbols and fills and other stuff as well as stripes. Along with the straps and pouches and ammo bands etc that all factions should get. Of course, the color of the markings (the legion) should be default by map.

    IMO, the kama (belt-skirts) should be reserved for only ARC Troopers and the one highest-ranking Epic Officer skin (the ARC Captain, in the above list).

    yeah some stuff should be for the arc trooper designs only. i like the stripe colors bc it would allow us each to choose our own color and not look out of place. its like the clones in the 2003 clone wars show. maybe have certain colors be locked to certain classes.
    something like these should be fine if we dont have enough maps and heroes for the legion skins.
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    or this but more colors
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  • Love it...............Well Done!

    I main officer, just put 5 silver stars in a circle on my collar and I'm good to go.
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  • Alex64
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    I would ask 2 things:
    -Imperial officer black version
    -A new clone officer
  • JackTHorn
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    The sooner we can get officers in armour the better,
    Definitely.
    even the outfit that blew up alderaan with the helmet would be good
    The beetle-helmeted guys? I'd love to see those guys, but they weren't Officers. They were Imperial Navy Gunners. I have another writeup placing them as a mid-level Heavy skin.

    - Republic - Armour and attachments (pretty self explanatory)
    You don't like the idea of markings for Clone customization?
    - CIS - Tactical Droid / Super Tactical Droid
    These would be great -- they were my first idea for the Officer class, before the beta. But there are problems. First of all, it would require making an entirely new model, which is enough extra work to make it less likely. But even if they do make it as an alternative for the OOM Officer, they'd best make it fairly high level, or you'd see TX-Series tactical droids taking up a quarter of the droids on the field, and they aren't nearly that common. Maybe CL60 for the Tactical, and CL70 for the Super Tactical?
    - Empire - Black, White, Grey uniforms with armour when applicable
    - Rebels - Aliens and Alderaan Guard uniform
    - First Order - Male option
    - Resistance - Aliens
    Why have the different Imperial uniform colors, but not the different uniform colors of the Rebel, First Order, and Resistance Officers? There's lots to choose from. The Rebels have the all-tan uniform, the tan-jacketed Captain, and the blue and tan Commander uniform. The First Order has the black Squad Leader that's currently in the game, plus the gray Captain and the blue Major. And the Resistance has the tan vest, the all-tan, the brown vest, and the current all-brown, as well as the Medical Officer with the armband.

    kylenpain wrote: »
    i like the stripe colors bc it would allow us each to choose our own color and not look out of place. maybe have certain colors be locked to certain classes.
    The stripes you're talking about were for Officers only, and were only seen on phase-1 armor. So they'd be great for Kamino, but only for the Officer class, and you'd want them ranked to show class level -- green stripes for Sergeants (class level 20), blue stripes for Lieutenants(40), and red stripes for Captains (60). That's how I put them in my part 2 post above. Yellow stripes indicate a Clone Commander, like Cody or Bly or Gree or Thire. The one we saw in Attack of the Clones was Ponds, the Commander of Mace Windu's 187th Elite.
    kylenpain wrote: »
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    Those are ARC Troopers -- they're called the Muunilist Ten. The one in red is an ARC Captain.
  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    The sooner we can get officers in armour the better,
    Definitely.
    even the outfit that blew up alderaan with the helmet would be good
    The beetle-helmeted guys? I'd love to see those guys, but they weren't Officers. They were Imperial Navy Gunners. I have another writeup placing them as a mid-level Heavy skin.

    - Republic - Armour and attachments (pretty self explanatory)
    You don't like the idea of markings for Clone customization?
    - CIS - Tactical Droid / Super Tactical Droid
    These would be great -- they were my first idea for the Officer class, before the beta. But there are problems. First of all, it would require making an entirely new model, which is enough extra work to make it less likely. But even if they do make it as an alternative for the OOM Officer, they'd best make it fairly high level, or you'd see TX-Series tactical droids taking up a quarter of the droids on the field, and they aren't nearly that common. Maybe CL60 for the Tactical, and CL70 for the Super Tactical?
    - Empire - Black, White, Grey uniforms with armour when applicable
    - Rebels - Aliens and Alderaan Guard uniform
    - First Order - Male option
    - Resistance - Aliens
    Why have the different Imperial uniform colors, but not the different uniform colors of the Rebel, First Order, and Resistance Officers? There's lots to choose from. The Rebels have the all-tan uniform, the tan-jacketed Captain, and the blue and tan Commander uniform. The First Order has the black Squad Leader that's currently in the game, plus the gray Captain and the blue Major. And the Resistance has the tan vest, the all-tan, the brown vest, and the current all-brown, as well as the Medical Officer with the armband.

    kylenpain wrote: »
    i like the stripe colors bc it would allow us each to choose our own color and not look out of place. maybe have certain colors be locked to certain classes.
    The stripes you're talking about were for Officers only, and were only seen on phase-1 armor. So they'd be great for Kamino, but only for the Officer class, and you'd want them ranked to show class level -- green stripes for Sergeants (class level 20), blue stripes for Lieutenants(40), and red stripes for Captains (60). That's how I put them in my part 2 post above. Yellow stripes indicate a Clone Commander, like Cody or Bly or Gree or Thire. The one we saw in Attack of the Clones was Ponds, the Commander of Mace Windu's 187th Elite.
    kylenpain wrote: »
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    Those are ARC Troopers -- they're called the Muunilist Ten. The one in red is an ARC Captain.

    I’m not opposed to Clone Markings, I welcome them. I’m just not well knowledgable about FO, Rebel or Resistance Officers (sorry for my lack of imagination, I just only like the Empire and Republic)
    442nd And 332nd are the BEST
  • The clone medic and naval officers are not what was used for ground combat. They need to put in real armored clone officers.
  • Once again, a community member who has better ideas than DICE are currently showing.
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  • JackTHorn
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    Hrafn_Fel wrote: »
    The clone medic and naval officers are not what was used for ground combat. They need to put in real armored clone officers.
    I tend to agree, but I don't mind them if they're just low-level early skins, they're okay. As players increase in rank, their officer skins will rank up too.
  • I agree. Great post!
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  • JackTHorn
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    Once again, a community member who has better ideas than DICE are currently showing.
    @JackTHorn, you are a legend.
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    Thank you! Coming from a fellow of great ideas himself, that means a lot. =)
  • JackTHorn
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    If they introduce pilot skins, I think they should be for the officer class.
    Agreed. Though a Pilot / Technician reinforcement would be even better, with various pilot skin options...
  • OGPOTUS
    650 posts Member
    It looks like you’ve put more thought into officer skins in this post than the entirety of Dice put into any cosmetics over the last 6 months.

    Great post, 10/10.
  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    Once again, a community member who has better ideas than DICE are currently showing.
    @JackTHorn, you are a legend.
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    Thank you! Coming from a fellow of great ideas himself, that means a lot. =)

    I've got a few more in the pipeline. Stay tuned. ;)
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  • JackTHorn
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    Goblin_Boy wrote: »
    I like this a lot. Someone please @ the devs.
    OGPOTUS wrote: »
    It looks like you’ve put more thought into officer skins in this post than the entirety of Dice put into any cosmetics over the last 6 months.

    Great post, 10/10.
    Thanks, guys!

    I have posts in the works for customization for the other classes too, as well as revisions for my previous posts on Recon and Specialist reinforcements. We'll just have to see if I can find the time to work them up and post them. =)
  • JackTHorn
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    Alternative or additional version of Resistance Captain skin -- brown Poe-like jacket:

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  • JackTHorn
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    The main point of this post was the Part 1 section -- 20 new canon Officer skins, all of which should be super easy to make because they just consist of recolor ingredients, or at most porting over a skin that already exists in the 2015 game.
  • Alex64
    5580 posts Member
    JackTHorn wrote: »
    Alternative or additional version of Resistance Captain skin -- brown Poe-like jacket:

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    Alternative skin for Resistance Officer...
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  • I also think these Rebel Officer skins could be used. They appear on Yavin 4 in the celebration scene too.
  • JackTHorn
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    tommytom64 wrote: »
    I also think these Rebel Officer skins could be used. They appear on Yavin 4 in the celebration scene too.
    Those are really cool, I hadn't seen those before. Which officer ones are you talking about specifically?
  • The only thing I really want is to play with a female (human), especially for the Assault (and Heavy) class.

  • Spiito
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    edited April 2018
    Hrafn_Fel wrote: »
    The clone medic and naval officers are not what was used for ground combat. They need to put in real armored clone officers.
    Yes to armored Clone Officers...
    Also, sometimes in the chaos and confusion of battle and evacuation, someone ends up being in a place they're not supposed to be. I would like Medical Officer uniforms to be added as well. The Officer in SWBF2 provides healing so it makes sense that it comes with a medical officer uniform, *at least as an option.*
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    Some days I feel like sitting among the group and buffing/healing. Other days I feel like running the front lines. It would be nice to indicate which days I'm feeling like what, with specific apparel that matches my mood.
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  • Spiito wrote: »
    Hrafn_Fel wrote: »
    The clone medic and naval officers are not what was used for ground combat. They need to put in real armored clone officers.
    Yes to armored Clone Officers...
    Also, sometimes in the chaos and confusion of battle and evacuation, someone ends up being in a place they're not supposed to be. I would like Medical Officer uniforms to be added as well. The Officer in SWBF2 provides healing so it makes sense that it comes with a medical officer uniform, *at least as an option.*
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    Some days I feel like sitting among the group and buffing/healing. Other days I feel like running the front lines. It would be nice to indicate which days I'm feeling like what, with specific apparel that matches my mood.

    That last image of an Imperial Officer is actually from the Imperial Security Bureau, not a medic
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  • JackTHorn
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    edited April 2018
    Looks like this is the Imperial medic:
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    Just a low-ranking Imperial Army Trooper, with some bacta and a designation marker. Maybe the Empire doesn't value healing enough to give it a commission? In the same way they didn't provide their TIE fighters with atmospheres / life support systems / shields?
  • Spiito
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    edited April 2018
    That last image of an Imperial Officer is actually from the Imperial Security Bureau, not a medic
    Ah. Yes. Thank you~
    *Thinking back* What did the Empire's medical staff even look like. Something I'll have to explore more later. Until then, a nap is order.
    *Edit* Just saw the post above.
    I see.
    Still gonna go have that nap tho
  • DrX2345
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    Some Imperial Officers with the similar uniform to Krennic would be cool. Idk if that's the ISB, I thought it was some kind of research department. Gunners could be cool, we see them on the Death Star and I think on SKB, although Clone Gunner could be an alternate skin for the Heavy.
    Overall, these are some great ideas. @F8RGE idk if you're the right person to tag but can you pass these on/share the thread with the right people?
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  • JackTHorn
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    DrX2345 wrote: »
    Some Imperial Officers with the similar uniform to Krennic would be cool. Idk if that's the ISB, I thought it was some kind of research department.
    JackTHorn wrote: »
    OFFICER CUSTOMIZATION PART 1: UNIFORMS

    OFFICER UNIFORM SKINS
  • Dash
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    edited April 2018
    @JackTHorn , great post as usual sir!

    I like the depth/detail you went into and especially the Why this needs to be implemented.

    It’s one thing to request something, but it’s says a lot about a person when the detail and reasoning is eloquently explained. That’s Passion.

    @F8RGE , please pass this along for Consideration.

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  • Danxoln
    2473 posts Member
    A bit long to read, but I still gave you a like and you get my full support!
  • Tastywaffles
    538 posts Member
    edited April 2018

    Loving your ideas! Such a shame stuff like this isn’t in the game.

    Can someone @ the devs?
  • Dash
    11447 posts Member
    Loving your ideas! Such a shame stuff like this isn’t in the game.

    Can someone @ the devs?

    I already Tagged the EACM. :wink:
    Origin ID: "NWG_Dash"

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  • Loving your ideas! Such a shame stuff like this isn’t in the game.

    Can someone @ the devs?

    I already Tagged the EACM. :wink:

    Ah, Dash my guy. Always one step ahead❤️
  • WodiQuix
    4393 posts Member
    A lot of awesome ideas! You have my support.
  • This is so good, my hat’s off to you.
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  • Dash
    11447 posts Member
    Loving your ideas! Such a shame stuff like this isn’t in the game.

    Can someone @ the devs?

    I already Tagged the EACM. :wink:

    Ah, Dash my guy. Always one step ahead❤️

    Always Dude :wink: <3
    Origin ID: "NWG_Dash"

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  • Hey, @JackTHorn, how's this?

    Empire Appearances Concept - https://imgur.com/a/ZVhz0
    Empire Appearances Menu Concept - https://imgur.com/a/CW0gG

    (Maybe you can pass this on to the devs @F8RGE? ;) )
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  • JackTHorn
    3514 posts Member
    Hey, @JackTHorn, how's this?

    Empire Appearances Concept - https://imgur.com/a/ZVhz0
    Empire Appearances Menu Concept - https://imgur.com/a/CW0gG
    I just wrote such a long response to this during my lunch break, and then the forum ate it. Will try again after work.
  • JackTHorn
    3514 posts Member
    Hey, @JackTHorn, how's this?

    Empire Appearances Concept - https://imgur.com/a/ZVhz0
    Empire Appearances Menu Concept - https://imgur.com/a/CW0gG
    Nicely rendered! Let's see, only two comments for the officers: First, the coloration on the Naval Officer looks decidedly more Army olive drab than Naval gray, but that's just a nitpick. Mainly, if it were me making it, I'd have it be Stormtrooper Officer (black, default), Army Officer (olive, class level 20), ISB Officer (cream, class level 40), and Naval Officer (gray, class level 60). A Fleet Admiral seems too lofty to do much on the ground, there are what, maybe 20 of them in the entire Imperial military? Could be a viable option for class level 80 or so, if they increase the level cap.

    Also, it occurs to me that they need to retire the field armor element they have as a default Imperial option for Yavin IV, and make it an option for all the Imperial Officer variants. Though maybe the Naval Commander (and the Admiral if we go that far) should only have field armor variants, as they're high ranking enough that they might not be likely to go into the field at all without armor.

    The red pauldron has an upgrade for the heavy Trooper is a neat idea. I assume that's from the video game that had Stormtroopers with red pauldrons as Grenadiers and those with blue pauldrons as Snipers? I've often considered those for inclusion in my write-ups, but ultimately I decided against them. Mainly for two reasons: 1) You run the risk of ending up with a rainbow array of Stormtrooper pauldrons, which aside from looking silly goes against the black white and red aesthetic of the Empire, and 2) I believe the red pauldron in canon is now the Stormtrooper Commander, senior to all the other pauldrons.

    I like the idea you put in there, with the black-pauldron Enlisted / Corporal and the Orange-pauldron Captain as upgrades for the Heavy. Interesting thought. I tend to prefer pauldrons as options for Officers, but they're not a bad fit for Assault, really. Takes the pauldron from being an Officer rank element to being a mark of the upper ranks of regular troopers.

    And really, it's better than where the pauldrons are now - on the Specialists and the Heavies, for some reason. If officers can't have armor and pauldrons, then maybe Assault should have them as rank markers, that would actually be pretty great.

    But I still have some nitpicking about it, because I'm me. =)

    Mainly, I'm curious why you skipped the white-pauldroned Stormtrooper Sergeant? Of the four Imperial pauldrons, the two that aren't clearly Officers of separate high rank are the black (Corporal/Enlisted) and the white (Sergeant). Seems like it would be best to either A.) make all four of the pauldroned Stormtroopers Assault skins, B.) make the Corporal and the Sergeant Assault skins and the Captain and/or Commander Officer skins, or C.) make them all Officer skins.

    Also, since canon seems to favor the Death Trooper over the Shadow Trooper ever since Rogue One, I'd say the top-level Assault skin should either be the orange-pauldroned Captain or (my preference) the gold-striped Nova Guard Trooper.
  • WarriorDeLaPaz
    46 posts Member
    edited April 2018
    JackTHorn wrote: »
    OFFICER CUSTOMIZATION PART 1: UNIFORMS
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    That pic is exactly what I wanted, I would’ve rather had that than different races, maybe we can have both.
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  • How daring! Why didn’t you include this?:
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    Kamino Security Officer

    Your concept is HUGE, detailed, well-written and brillant. Certainly, the officers are the most boring troopers (in terms of outfit) but with what you said, they could be cool too.
    Astonishing ideas, mate :)
  • Seastorm wrote: »
    How daring!
    Your concept is HUGE, detailed, well-written and brillant. Certainly, the officers are the most boring troopers (in terms of outfit) but with what you said, they could be cool too.
    Astonishing ideas, mate :)
    Thanks! I really think that, with the minimal effort of recoloring alone, the Officer skins could be really great. Having them tied to rank would be even better, or at least priced by the rank of the skin.
    Seastorm wrote: »
    Why didn’t you include this?:
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    Kamino Security Officer
    I've seen that skin, and I like it. I didn't include it because I like having Phase-1 Clone armor on Kamino, and would prefer the stripes in green, blue, and red for Officers of low, middle, and high rank.

    Though now I think of it, I think there may have been phase-1 versions of the Kamino Security. Maybe they could be the default for Aerial clones on Kamino?
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