How do you spot a cheat?
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@DrX2345 my man we need to play together some time!
No, it isn't lol... the fact that you think it is says pretty much all that needs to be said.
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I think it's a bit of both.
Clone side?
In all honesty these scores are not even worthy of thinking someone is cheating. Atleast when I drop 150+ I get why people would think that, however mechanics abuse by some specific heroes will get anyone monster scores. I cant do it on all maps, mainly because we can end them so fast. 100+ elims is not hard, 100+ kills isnt much harder either. One thing to keep in mind though is for the monster scores, 150+ or 200+ pre palps patch, this requires long overtime. In regulation time it isnt that easy, or with the influx of new players games just get steam rolled. It may be a surprise to some, but you will find the largest scores, and usually in the hardest and closest matched rounds. Hell 99% of the time of late I dont even try, I just go for the salt. Hopefully when the new players get a bit of map awareness then things will get a bit better.
A final note, it doesnt take heroes to get 100+, ATST on Crait is basically arcade difficulty on rookie, and Officer on some maps.
The only sure fire way I have highlighted cheaters in this game since spectate and stats arent available, is via 1shot hero killing. Since I play with some amazing players who score like I do and above, I class it nothing more of a case they they already "Got Gud"
LOL. First of all, getting 60+ elimination is extremely easy on certain maps if you play vehicle (i.e. ATST on Tatoine/Crait) due to the HUGE imbalance between vehicles and troopers. Even in Strike trooper vs. trooper, it isn't hard to get 60+.
https://imgur.com/a/YMVL1MC
Second, I also played America's Army where average was around 10 kills per game (since the time to kill is low, it just requires fast reflex to get kills, and so the K/D is usually around 1 or less), but my clan mates would routinely get over 40+ (which was probably 2/3 standard deviation above the norm).
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/57735143884986552/241974BED24E5639E4F9F59363BC182A39B1E64E/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/612795008279765121/21BB65B848E325897238B39DEF580D7128629F35/
It's just a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect (average or below average skill player who perceives himself to be greater, and insists anyone who is better, or much better, to be cheating since nobody can possibly destroy them without effort). There are A LOT of legit players who can routinely get over 60+ (I mean once every 2,3 games), or get astronomical K/D and completely destroy the entire enemy team in any game.
I was actually thinking about giving Americas Army a try. Its free and it seems to be well populated. Did you enjoy it if you dont mind me asking?
It was a great game when it was beta for pc but when it went to console it was horrible as it wasn't being monitored like it was on the US Army server.
@blaz3r get off your high horse. 12 v 12 a great average was 6. They even started nerfing the mortar after a few weeks due to spawn killing with it. On the bridge, it soon only shot half way. I rarely died and my best, ever, may have been 8 and even then that had plenty of luck involved. This is the only response you will get from me as I've spent far too much time responding to trolls.
It was great when it was beta for pc and still on the US Army server.
@blaz3r get off your high horse. It was 12 v 12 with no respawn. Matches barely went 5 minutes. I rarely died and my best, ever, may have been 8 and even then, it was pure luck. It was very rare to see the average player get beyond 3.
Exactly my point. He thinks 30 kills is above average and anything much higher at that point is cheating. You hit the nail on the head.
It’s just so much easier than he’s implying. Very odd.
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30+ lol. I could do that afk for 90% of the round.....needs to come to terms with reality
Also I will reiterate, if someone is doing 70+ in the time alloted in a match they are using some sort of cheat. It could be a hack, a glitch exploit or spawn camping/sniping which in my opinion are all cheats.
But continue to strawman, obfuscate and misquote.
Well if you know how to spot a "cheater" why'd you ask? You trolling huh?
If you think the Lowball I showcased was “Cheating”, then you believe 30 is above average. Which with all you’ve written, this sounds about right. There’s no doubt in my mind about what I surmised from this lovely conversation.
So from your experience:
30 “Super Elite Non Cheater”
60 “Cheater”
100+ “Mega Cheater”
How about you? What are your Consistent numbers in GA?
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Thinking like this only hinders your play not others. Believing this misinformation to be fact is more detrimental to your skill progression. 70+ is common, not hard at all. Acceptance is the first step....crying foul doesnt help at all
Priceless. ...
Well, if that's the average for the team in your server, where are the extra players coming from?
Brainless people amuse me.
I'm not the OP.
So, who's the troll?
I see what this is now, just a straight troll post. Nothing more to see here I guess
I'm not the OP, *****.
Didnt say you were OP, just said you were a troll by your comments. Thus there is no reason for me to continue feeding your ridiculous claims
If the average is 70, then all 20 teammates are getting 70 kills including assists, against 20 enemies. That is not possible as only 20 enemies are on the screen at one time, then add the approximate 10 seconds to respawn....
Simple math for those who actually use their brain. For those that don't, it's a serious issue of comprehension.
In a close GA match there are a lot of tickets, which can mean a lot of kills and a lot of assists.
If the attacking team is steamrolling the defenders, the overall scores are most likely going to be low.
If the defending team is beating the crap out of the attackers, getting 100+ Eliminations is hardly abnormal, especially if the defenders are holding the attackers at spawn points and going out of bounds for kills.
Personally I think camping the spawn points and using out of bounds for kills is cheesy, but it's in the game so players are going to do it. Abuse? Maybe. But it's not cheating. It's poor map design, and I won't even get into it regarding all of the bugs involving the map walls . . .
I have been playing the PC version of SWBF2 since November 20th and I have seen so many cheaters it's not even funny. I have seen cheaters in every game mode, including Jetpack Cargo and, believe it or not, in Ewok Hunt.
Stop calling cheaters hackers. That's an insult to true hackers. Most of the people who cheat are cheaters using hack programs that were created by a real hacker. Players who use cheats in video games are trolls, only this time they usually don't talk in chat as they prefer to run around killing people and laughing at how pathetic the other players are when, in truth, the players not cheating are laughing at the cheater knowing that their future life is most likely going to be a very sad existence if they get off on cheating in a video game.
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Didnt say you were OP, just said you were a troll by your comments. Thus there is no reason for me to continue feeding your ridiculous claims
You are basing your maths on non-existent stats. I never mentioned average either, I just said its not difficult and claims of cheats are unfounded traditionally by sub par players. Good to know that now your going to the next cliche keyboard warrior stance, personal attack time. Keep em coming
Then how is this thread trolling? I believe it's a valid thing to ask or state since it's been mentioned over and over again. This is a serious issue that can make or break this game, like with Battlefield.
You sir, have Failed at Video Games.
There is no way on Earth, that Calculations and Data for a Game you’re not even playing correctly, would Ever Outweigh Actual Experience by playing the game correctly with all that’s available to you.
You have some of the best players for this game in this very post telling you the intricacies of how and why the kills are high. How to achieve this, how to better your play style, how to change it up for the better.
But you’re holding on to this “Math”. I don’t get it. You’re either dead serious about whatever calculations you’re making and you’re terribly wrong, or this is just “Trolling 101”.
I’m done here too. For real, we Politely tried to explain this multiple times from multiple people.
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You're done here because I just made you look stoopid, that's it, that's all.
The stats are there for EVERYONE to see at the end of each match. What is wrong with you?
Your statements have been disproved over and over, Baron was even kind enough to post footage of such things. Those who mention it are the problem since most have no idea the range of skills that are evident in PC play. 99% of what people call cheats, are simply them being outplayed. Now thats a stat I would stand behind.
Learn how to spell you ignorant troll and leave our forums . . . forever . . .
Trollism is dead! Yeah, I said it. TROLLISM!
Just leave so the rest of us can have an intelligent conversation where sanity is involved.
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On Yoda's Flying Chair: The floating chair has a little area in between the hovering part and his cushion that allows him to go whenever he wants. That is why Mace always looks like he just smelled something bad.
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This dude just lawyered you! And then you come wih the lamest response from someone who does not understand math. So sad. By the way, you image only shows 39 eliminations, far different from "70+ consistently". Even if this would be "lowball score". Cheers
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verb
gerund or present participle: cheating
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act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.
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avoid (something undesirable) by luck or skill.
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Hi alternate account. My name’s “Actually Knows What He Talks About” how are you today!?
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The dude is simply a troll. Crying foul, same old story. If you are keen on screenshots, what would you like to see? 100+ elims, 100+ kills, 150+ elims, 150+ kills, 200+ elims?
I can dig up a few when I get home if you actually believe the trolling in this thread
You Da Real MVP!
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Dude, you need to calm down and let this go. I am not going to say whose side I am on, because I will not be part of this argument. The mature thing is backing down and just letting the stuff you don't like go past you.
On Yoda's Flying Chair: The floating chair has a little area in between the hovering part and his cushion that allows him to go whenever he wants. That is why Mace always looks like he just smelled something bad.
Posting dictionary excerpts and making comments like that only solidifies your role as a keyboard warrior. Please google more
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The mature thing is backing down? OMG!
At least that is what my father used to tell me when I got in a fight with my brother.
On Yoda's Flying Chair: The floating chair has a little area in between the hovering part and his cushion that allows him to go whenever he wants. That is why Mace always looks like he just smelled something bad.
What is wrong with you? Not dissing you, but what the heck is wrong with you? See you’re the player, and it’s your choice on what your picking too put up in your Game and spend your time playing through. And your just giving bad logic to somebody who’s more skilled than you, and can put together video evidence to show to you. See I am gamer again who is truly losing his cool again, Who’s here to use his Account to bring truth ‘til I get through to them(Noobs) But they use flawed logic, they don’t wanna listen.
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We’re using definitions?
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
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I hate to break it to you, but the real world doesn't work that way. IE, oh its just the Germans at it again. Meh, it'll be over soon.... It's only a socialist with that point of view.
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