Anyone else want to see the STAP introduced?

DarthJ · May 31, 2018 10:53AM

For those who are unsure of what they are, here it is:

STAPs are lightweight reconnaissance and patrol vehicles used by the battle droids of the Trade Federation army (and later, the Separatist Alliance). Incorporating repulsorlift technology, the STAP (single trooper aerial platform) is a slim, agile craft sporting a pair of blaster cannons. STAPs are often deployed as support vehicles in conjunction with larger craft.

I think they would be a viable option to match the AT-RT (which I know is not in the speeder class), maybe as a speeder class for the Seperatists. Not on Kamino but on Naboo and Kashyyyk. I would love to see a heavier Republic option instead of the AT-RT in the heavier class.

Abilities could be a radar scan, laser barrage and heat sink, with a primary focus on its good speed. Could also introduce a buff to the ion torpedo to make a viable counter against it.

Thoughts on this?

UNLIMITED_P0WER · May 31, 2018 10:55AM

Ohhhh yeeaahhh.

STAP it m8

DarthJ · May 31, 2018 10:56AM

UNLIMITED_P0WER wrote: »

Ohhhh yeeaahhh.

STAP it m8

I just want to zoom around Naboo blasting anything that moves!

DrX2345 · May 31, 2018 11:16AM

Yeah, this vs Flash Speeders on Theed would be cool. As I said in my thread, the STAP. is kinda weird in that you could have it as a 'Scout' vehicle, and move the ATRT into this class, given that they are both fast, agile, and (potentially) have some kind of scan pulse, but aren't that heavily armed. Alternatively the STAP could be a a speeder class. Either way, it is needed as a small, cheap vehicle that would be cool to see whizzing around the battlefield.

Mastahpeece · May 31, 2018 11:39AM

They appeared in concept art alongside the mighty Tarzan wookiees
anton-grandert-swbfii-antongrandert-031.jpg?1520524103

BRING ON THE STAPS

NomiSunstrider · May 31, 2018 11:42AM

Perfect for a speeder class.

DrX2345 · May 31, 2018 11:48AM

Mastahpeece wrote: »

They appeared in concept art alongside the mighty Tarzan wookiees

BRING ON THE STAPS

Hadn't seen that - cool.

DarthJ · May 31, 2018 12:22PM

DrX2345 wrote: »

Yeah, this vs Flash Speeders on Theed would be cool. As I said in my thread, the STAP. is kinda weird in that you could have it as a 'Scout' vehicle, and move the ATRT into this class, given that they are both fast, agile, and (potentially) have some kind of scan pulse, but aren't that heavily armed. Alternatively the STAP could be a a speeder class. Either way, it is needed as a small, cheap vehicle that would be cool to see whizzing around the battlefield.

Yeah good points. I'd have it costing around 800 so it wouldn't be spammed as per the LIUVs on Starkiller Base. If they were brought onto Naboo and Kashyyyk they would only be needed for 2/3 phases anyway.

DarthJ · May 31, 2018 12:22PM

Mastahpeece wrote: »

They appeared in concept art alongside the mighty Tarzan wookiees

BRING ON THE STAPS

I had never seen that, looks beautiful

Jello770 · May 31, 2018 12:52PM

Mastahpeece wrote: »

They appeared in concept art alongside the mighty Tarzan wookiees

BRING ON THE STAPS

WANT.

DarthJ · May 31, 2018 2:11PM

Thinking that laser barrage could be swapped out with ion shot, to match it more to the AT-RT.

Skowsa · May 31, 2018 2:13PM

I am all for this idea. It would be a great addition. I think its abilities should be more defensive/scouting than offensive. A scan pulse, speed boost and something like an EMP that can destroy turrets and disruptors at very short range.

DarthJ · May 31, 2018 2:32PM

Skowsa wrote: »

I am all for this idea. It would be a great addition. I think its abilities should be more defensive/scouting than offensive. A scan pulse, speed boost and something like an EMP that can destroy turrets and disruptors at very short range.

Good idea, anti-turret build would be really good. Might have to have decent HP to take them on though.

Eat_da_PuePue · May 31, 2018 3:07PM

Yes, please, and thank you.

Skowsa · May 31, 2018 3:28PM

DarthJ wrote: »

Skowsa wrote: »

I am all for this idea. It would be a great addition. I think its abilities should be more defensive/scouting than offensive. A scan pulse, speed boost and something like an EMP that can destroy turrets and disruptors at very short range.

Good idea, anti-turret build would be really good. Might have to have decent HP to take them on though.

I was thinking the speed would be its main defense. Agile and quick enough to get in close to turrets, drop an EMP mine with a 3m blast radius and get out. A 3 second delay from time it is dropped to going boom would give the STAP time to bug out as well. The EMP mine would do 100 points of damage to all vehicles (including the STAP who dropped it) and turrets and reset the countdown on Ion Disruptor shots. Minimal damage to troops - 50hp?

MajesticAndHolyWade · May 31, 2018 5:02PM

If this ends up moving the AT-RT into some sort of scout vehicle class, perhaps the TX-130 Hover tank could replace it as the Republic's armour class.

Azelrazel · May 31, 2018 5:18PM

Stamps must be added, barc speeders too for the clone wars era maps like kashyyyk, maybe naboo

Phantom_A320 · May 31, 2018 5:19PM

Too bad we don’t have a clone war era map with the clones attacking instead of defending.

It would be cool to escort a juggernaut or AT-TE

Slylacine · May 31, 2018 6:11PM

I always thought they should be made speeders

Devlin21 · May 31, 2018 6:16PM

Phantom_A320 wrote: »

Too bad we don’t have a clone war era map with the clones attacking instead of defending.

It would be cool to escort a juggernaut or AT-TE

That's what they'll have on geonosis.

DarthJ · May 31, 2018 6:30PM

Skowsa wrote: »

DarthJ wrote: »

Skowsa wrote: »

I am all for this idea. It would be a great addition. I think its abilities should be more defensive/scouting than offensive. A scan pulse, speed boost and something like an EMP that can destroy turrets and disruptors at very short range.

Good idea, anti-turret build would be really good. Might have to have decent HP to take them on though.

I was thinking the speed would be its main defense. Agile and quick enough to get in close to turrets, drop an EMP mine with a 3m blast radius and get out. A 3 second delay from time it is dropped to going boom would give the STAP time to bug out as well. The EMP mine would do 100 points of damage to all vehicles (including the STAP who dropped it) and turrets and reset the countdown on Ion Disruptor shots. Minimal damage to troops - 50hp?

Thats a great idea. Would help the team too stopping ion turrets

Rogue_5 · May 31, 2018 8:38PM

I'm all for this. As much as I hate the speeder class (Endor and Tatooine), more vehicle variety is always a good thing. And I do think the AT-RT should be moved into a new class, with a Separatist vehicle to counter it. An Assault or Specialist with moderate aim is all it takes to bring down an AT-RT, so I think it is definitely a lot worse than any other armored vehicle in the game. But what Separatist vehicle would be integrated into the new class? Maybe there's something in Legends?

IamGroot · May 31, 2018 9:28PM

Slylacine wrote: »

I always thought they should be made speeders

I agree. They should slot into the Speeder class. And the Republic should get the BARC speeder to go head to head with it

IamGroot · May 31, 2018 9:31PM

Rogue_5 wrote: »

I'm all for this. As much as I hate the speeder class (Endor and Tatooine), more vehicle variety is always a good thing. And I do think the AT-RT should be moved into a new class, with a Separatist vehicle to counter it. An Assault or Specialist with moderate aim is all it takes to bring down an AT-RT, so I think it is definitely a lot worse than any other armored vehicle in the game. But what Separatist vehicle would be integrated into the new class? Maybe there's something in Legends?
http://www.brickfanatics.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/LEGO_Star_Wars_AT-RT_MOC_main.jpg

For the Separatists, they can bring in the NR-N99 Persuader (snail droid). There are some that appear in Kashyyyk as part of the battle environment

DrX2345 · May 31, 2018 9:33PM

DarthJ wrote: »

DrX2345 wrote: »

Yeah, this vs Flash Speeders on Theed would be cool. As I said in my thread, the STAP. is kinda weird in that you could have it as a 'Scout' vehicle, and move the ATRT into this class, given that they are both fast, agile, and (potentially) have some kind of scan pulse, but aren't that heavily armed. Alternatively the STAP could be a a speeder class. Either way, it is needed as a small, cheap vehicle that would be cool to see whizzing around the battlefield.

Yeah good points. I'd have it costing around 800 so it wouldn't be spammed as per the LIUVs on Starkiller Base. If they were brought onto Naboo and Kashyyyk they would only be needed for 2/3 phases anyway.

Ideally they wouldn't have that OHK run-over effect though, idk if they need to be that expensive. Maybe 400?

BeastlyCrawdad · May 31, 2018 9:44PM

Yep, I do.

DarthJ · May 31, 2018 10:46PM

DrX2345 wrote: »

DarthJ wrote: »

DrX2345 wrote: »

Yeah, this vs Flash Speeders on Theed would be cool. As I said in my thread, the STAP. is kinda weird in that you could have it as a 'Scout' vehicle, and move the ATRT into this class, given that they are both fast, agile, and (potentially) have some kind of scan pulse, but aren't that heavily armed. Alternatively the STAP could be a a speeder class. Either way, it is needed as a small, cheap vehicle that would be cool to see whizzing around the battlefield.

Yeah good points. I'd have it costing around 800 so it wouldn't be spammed as per the LIUVs on Starkiller Base. If they were brought onto Naboo and Kashyyyk they would only be needed for 2/3 phases anyway.

Ideally they wouldn't have that OHK run-over effect though, idk if they need to be that expensive. Maybe 400?

True. I guess it would depend on if you can fly up/down though or whether it would stay at a sustained height like other vehicles do

Kyloren421 · May 31, 2018 11:28PM

Nah, then endor and starkiller will have competition fot speeder spam champ

Trooper8059 · June 1, 2018 12:00AM

As long as they don't get easily stuck like the other speeders, i'm down.

A_Very_Calm_Person · June 1, 2018 12:01AM

they need full control then not like the existing speeders

Christo_04002283 · June 5, 2018 5:31PM

MajesticAndHolyWade wrote: »

If this ends up moving the AT-RT into some sort of scout vehicle class, perhaps the TX-130 Hover tank could replace it as the Republic's armour class.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/2/2b/CW_Tank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060319125541

Yes we need this vehicle for the clones and rebels

Jett_Fett_91166 · June 6, 2018 1:00AM

Yes please, more vehicles.

UrbanGlitch · June 6, 2018 5:02PM

Hell yes, add it to the Speeder class along with the Republics BARC Speeder.

UrbanGlitch · June 6, 2018 5:08PM

MajesticAndHolyWade wrote: »

If this ends up moving the AT-RT into some sort of scout vehicle class, perhaps the TX-130 Hover tank could replace it as the Republic's armour class.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/2/2b/CW_Tank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060319125541

Yes to the TX-130, would love it to go head to head with the AAT.
The AT-RT should not be in the same class as the AAT and AT-ST, but it isn't a Speeder either, so it definitely would need its own class, rivalled by the CIS LM-432 Crab Droid.

TheGeneral122513 · June 6, 2018 5:08PM

Skowsa wrote: »

DarthJ wrote: »

Skowsa wrote: »

I am all for this idea. It would be a great addition. I think its abilities should be more defensive/scouting than offensive. A scan pulse, speed boost and something like an EMP that can destroy turrets and disruptors at very short range.

Good idea, anti-turret build would be really good. Might have to have decent HP to take them on though.

I was thinking the speed would be its main defense. Agile and quick enough to get in close to turrets, drop an EMP mine with a 3m blast radius and get out. A 3 second delay from time it is dropped to going boom would give the STAP time to bug out as well. The EMP mine would do 100 points of damage to all vehicles (including the STAP who dropped it) and turrets and reset the countdown on Ion Disruptor shots. Minimal damage to troops - 50hp?

It's radar could also act as a jammer, or it can be a separate ability or Star Card.

MajesticAndHolyWade · June 6, 2018 9:19PM

UrbanGlitch wrote: »

MajesticAndHolyWade wrote: »

If this ends up moving the AT-RT into some sort of scout vehicle class, perhaps the TX-130 Hover tank could replace it as the Republic's armour class.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/2/2b/CW_Tank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060319125541

Yes to the TX-130, would love it to go head to head with the AAT.
The AT-RT should not be in the same class as the AAT and AT-ST, but it isn't a Speeder either, so it definitely would need its own class, rivalled by the CIS LM-432 Crab Droid.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/LM-432_crab_droid

The crab droid would be great. That, or the mini tri-droids seen on Utapau

UrbanGlitch · June 6, 2018 10:07PM

MajesticAndHolyWade wrote: »

UrbanGlitch wrote: »

MajesticAndHolyWade wrote: »

If this ends up moving the AT-RT into some sort of scout vehicle class, perhaps the TX-130 Hover tank could replace it as the Republic's armour class.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/2/2b/CW_Tank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060319125541

Yes to the TX-130, would love it to go head to head with the AAT.
The AT-RT should not be in the same class as the AAT and AT-ST, but it isn't a Speeder either, so it definitely would need its own class, rivalled by the CIS LM-432 Crab Droid.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/LM-432_crab_droid

The crab droid would be great. That, or the mini tri-droids seen on Utapau

I think the Crab Droid would be a better pick just for it being a similar size and speed to the AT-RT, even in terms of weapons, they are pretty close

MajesticAndHolyWade · June 7, 2018 5:10PM

UrbanGlitch wrote: »

MajesticAndHolyWade wrote: »

UrbanGlitch wrote: »

MajesticAndHolyWade wrote: »

If this ends up moving the AT-RT into some sort of scout vehicle class, perhaps the TX-130 Hover tank could replace it as the Republic's armour class.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/2/2b/CW_Tank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060319125541

Yes to the TX-130, would love it to go head to head with the AAT.
The AT-RT should not be in the same class as the AAT and AT-ST, but it isn't a Speeder either, so it definitely would need its own class, rivalled by the CIS LM-432 Crab Droid.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/LM-432_crab_droid

The crab droid would be great. That, or the mini tri-droids seen on Utapau

I think the Crab Droid would be a better pick just for it being a similar size and speed to the AT-RT, even in terms of weapons, they are pretty close

Okay, fair enough for weapons and speed. I took a look at the AT-RT again last night and it's much smaller than I remember, honestly.

Perhaps if we ever get Utapau we could get the mini tri-droid as a replacement for the AAT, since they seem to be relatively similar in size. A good size reference can be found at 1:43,

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