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TonyGoombah1
1324 posts Member
edited July 2018
Sure being on the giving end is funny, push 1 button, watch a hero die (whether its GA, HS or HvV) but it gets old after a while, boring in my opinion even on the giving end of this ridiculousness.

I think freezing troopers to death is one thing but hero's deserve a fighting chance, especially when you play so hard to earn your hero in GA, the less experienced players won't even see kylos freeze coming.

It's equally as ridiculous to be stunned by chewbacca who does 300+ damage per headshot.

I think a simple solution is something I've suggested multiple times on the forums but never bothered making a thread about.

All CC should break on a damage threshhold of 200-250 damage Anything more than that is overkill and unfair

Heres a video, tell me CC in this game is in a good place.

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  • Devlin21
    8325 posts Member
    You would have to buff lando as he would become useless if that change was implemented.
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  • Heres a list of abilities that need to be effected

    kylo freeze
    Chewie stun
    Lando stun
    Iden stun
    Phasma stun
    Reys mind trick
    Vader choke
    Officers flash grenade
    Sidious stun
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  • Evazan127
    8105 posts Member
    Some of the stuns seem uncounterable as heros.

    But not all:
    kylo[extended]freeze
    Chewie stun
    Lando stun
    Iden stun
    Phasma stun
    Reys mind trick
    Vader choke
    (maybe)
    Officers flash grenade
    Sidious stun
    The annoying ones is when you have no clue there coming (or know that they could come at any time but can’t do much to stop it) and then half your health is gone from 1 hero and you couldn’t do anything about it.
  • Midichlorian
    1409 posts Member
    edited July 2018
    Heres a list of abilities that need to be effected

    kylo freeze
    Chewie stun
    Lando stun
    Iden stun
    Phasma stun
    Reys mind trick
    Vader choke
    Officers flash grenade
    Sidious stun
    Only nerf those stuns if the heroes get health recovery. So we know Kylo is getting an HP card of sorts, so once he gets it then you can nerf freeze. It can last just 2 seconds or release upon damage.
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  • Supino
    155 posts Member
    Heres a list of abilities that need to be effected

    kylo freeze
    Chewie stun
    Lando stun
    Iden stun
    Phasma stun
    Reys mind trick
    Vader choke
    Officers flash grenade
    Sidious stun
    Only nerf those stuns if the heroes get health recovery. So we know Kylo is getting an HP card of sorts, so once he gets it then you can nerf freeze. It can last just 2 seconds or release upon damage.

    I heard the hero dev was looking at this card for him, but never saw any confirmation about it. Did you saw any confirmation about this HOK card?
  • This game seems based on stun, flash, shock, and non skilled spam, shame.
  • SMTHook
    223 posts Member
    I like being stunned and frozen so much I'm going to try it in real life.
  • Han_Spinel
    1102 posts Member
    For me, This argument is all about the duration on heroes versus infantry.

    Keep the long durations on infantry, with much much shorter duration on heroes. They are heroes after all.
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  • Devlin21
    8325 posts Member
    Supino wrote: »
    Heres a list of abilities that need to be effected

    kylo freeze
    Chewie stun
    Lando stun
    Iden stun
    Phasma stun
    Reys mind trick
    Vader choke
    Officers flash grenade
    Sidious stun
    Only nerf those stuns if the heroes get health recovery. So we know Kylo is getting an HP card of sorts, so once he gets it then you can nerf freeze. It can last just 2 seconds or release upon damage.

    I heard the hero dev was looking at this card for him, but never saw any confirmation about it. Did you saw any confirmation about this HOK card?

    Confirmed for han,kylo and boba.
    Han_Spinel wrote: »
    For me, This argument is all about the duration on heroes versus infantry.

    Keep the long durations on infantry, with much much shorter duration on heroes. They are heroes after all.

    You would have to buff some heroes to compensate for this huge nerf. Specifically lando.
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  • Han_Spinel
    1102 posts Member
    Supino wrote: »
    Heres a list of abilities that need to be effected

    kylo freeze
    Chewie stun
    Lando stun
    Iden stun
    Phasma stun
    Reys mind trick
    Vader choke
    Officers flash grenade
    Sidious stun
    Only nerf those stuns if the heroes get health recovery. So we know Kylo is getting an HP card of sorts, so once he gets it then you can nerf freeze. It can last just 2 seconds or release upon damage.

    I heard the hero dev was looking at this card for him, but never saw any confirmation about it. Did you saw any confirmation about this HOK card?

    Confirmed for han,kylo and boba.
    Han_Spinel wrote: »
    For me, This argument is all about the duration on heroes versus infantry.

    Keep the long durations on infantry, with much much shorter duration on heroes. They are heroes after all.

    You would have to buff some heroes to compensate for this huge nerf. Specifically lando.

    I completely agree, particularly with Lando. His primary way of defeating heroes should not be stunning them and head-shotting them 17 times in a row.
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  • Devlin21
    8325 posts Member
    Han_Spinel wrote: »
    Supino wrote: »
    Heres a list of abilities that need to be effected

    kylo freeze
    Chewie stun
    Lando stun
    Iden stun
    Phasma stun
    Reys mind trick
    Vader choke
    Officers flash grenade
    Sidious stun
    Only nerf those stuns if the heroes get health recovery. So we know Kylo is getting an HP card of sorts, so once he gets it then you can nerf freeze. It can last just 2 seconds or release upon damage.

    I heard the hero dev was looking at this card for him, but never saw any confirmation about it. Did you saw any confirmation about this HOK card?

    Confirmed for han,kylo and boba.
    Han_Spinel wrote: »
    For me, This argument is all about the duration on heroes versus infantry.

    Keep the long durations on infantry, with much much shorter duration on heroes. They are heroes after all.

    You would have to buff some heroes to compensate for this huge nerf. Specifically lando.

    I completely agree, particularly with Lando. His primary way of defeating heroes should not be stunning them and head-shotting them 17 times in a row.

    Agreed, but not sure what they could do without making him a han copy. Buff blaster and lower fire rate, hes exactly like han with a stun. Give him some explosive, hes still a han copy.
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  • Ppong_Man12
    2446 posts Member
    edited July 2018
    One thing I’ll say, there’s been some funny Kylo freezes that’s for sure lol.
  • This is such a mess. I don't even know how to change all these things properly. Just like mentioned before you get rid of Lando's shock and he becomes useless. That's so poorly designed that you can't even work it out to get something interesting and useful.
  • lerodemmy
    3493 posts Member
    Yes, nerf MESMERIZING MIND TRICK!
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  • Defbored
    1434 posts Member
    I understand it's probably frustrating to be on receiving end over and over but everybody has access to the same tools. I haven't found it to be too much problem you just need to be less aggressive and more strategic, teamwork is the key.

    This is what I'm talking about. Everyone just wants thing to be easy and handed to them. If I see a Kylo hanging out, I keep my distance.
  • I say;

    Break on 200 damage.

    Freezing targets should allow Kylo to kill infantry. Not Run. 200 damage on troopers 160 damage for heroes is my honest opinion.

    Same goes for any hard CC. You should not be able to freeze someone with Kylo and let your infantry or Iden just melt them with head shots. 0 Skill gameplay.

    Lando's nightsniper would be fine with a slight buff. 2-4 damage per shot and 2 at distance.
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  • Michaeltuma21
    517 posts Member
    edited July 2018
    Freeze should be broken on first hit by anyone..but the "freezer" should get double damage for that hit..no one else should... Lando can get compensated by making his a 3 time ability (kinda like Luke's Rush)...Iden droid should shot out freezing bolts..along with lightning damage bolts at random
  • rollind24
    5675 posts Member
    I understand not like being frozen but calling for shorter freezes on hero’s while keeping the same for infantry i don’t agree with. Let’s not all pretend most people here can’t earn at a minimum of two hero’s a match. Lose one oh well get another one.
    #infantrylivesmatter
  • CarapaceonMenace
    2042 posts Member
    edited July 2018
    I killed a smartalec Luke who decided to stay behind the border change on Naboo, trying kill our replenished reinforcements. Froze him, then pulled him back and he timed out. Fun stuff.
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  • Supino
    155 posts Member
    Supino wrote: »
    Heres a list of abilities that need to be effected

    kylo freeze
    Chewie stun
    Lando stun
    Iden stun
    Phasma stun
    Reys mind trick
    Vader choke
    Officers flash grenade
    Sidious stun
    Only nerf those stuns if the heroes get health recovery. So we know Kylo is getting an HP card of sorts, so once he gets it then you can nerf freeze. It can last just 2 seconds or release upon damage.

    I heard the hero dev was looking at this card for him, but never saw any confirmation about it. Did you saw any confirmation about this HOK card?

    Confirmed for han,kylo and boba.
    Han_Spinel wrote: »
    For me, This argument is all about the duration on heroes versus infantry.

    Keep the long durations on infantry, with much much shorter duration on heroes. They are heroes after all.

    You would have to buff some heroes to compensate for this huge nerf. Specifically lando.

    Thats very good, he really need it. The only thing i saw about this until now was that Guilhermo guy talking he was looking at those HOK cards for Han, Boba and Kylo but with no confirmation whatsoever. When did they confirmed this?
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  • GiantSlayerBF2
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    edited July 2018
    nerfs everywhere!
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  • This is such a mess. I don't even know how to change all these things properly. Just like mentioned before you get rid of Lando's shock and he becomes useless. That's so poorly designed that you can't even work it out to get something interesting and useful.

    I don't understand where you all get that lando is useless with this purposes "nerf" to CC but "buff for Kylo"

    In a 1v1 engagement, sure he may become slightly weaker. Which is why I agreed that his weapon would need a slight buff. But by no means will he be useless. If all you can do with Lando is stun kill, you need to look inwards at your skill and branch out of the idea of, I can only kill while I have someone CC'ed.
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  • TheUltimateHope
    1008 posts Member
    edited July 2018
    This is such a mess. I don't even know how to change all these things properly. Just like mentioned before you get rid of Lando's shock and he becomes useless. That's so poorly designed that you can't even work it out to get something interesting and useful.

    I don't understand where you all get that lando is useless with this purposes "nerf" to CC but "buff for Kylo"

    In a 1v1 engagement, sure he may become slightly weaker. Which is why I agreed that his weapon would need a slight buff. But by no means will he be useless. If all you can do with Lando is stun kill, you need to look inwards at your skill and branch out of the idea of, I can only kill while I have someone CC'ed.

    He stands no chance against saber hero without it, simple. He is no Han, you'll need a total revamp of the character if you want to make him still relevant because thats how he is poorly designed, to be dependant on that.
    Just compare him to the likes of Han, Boba, Bossk, Chewie and come back.

    A console player talking about skill, don't make me laugh.
  • Adapt and overcome. If I'm playing lando I will use his stun if I see a lightsaber running straight for me it's his only defence. A smart opponent would take it into consideration before charging in hoping to wail on him with a lightsaber.
  • lerodemmy
    3493 posts Member
    To answer the question in the title... Yes, I very much enjoy being stunned.

    There's nothing like being frozen in place for five seconds and taking in a 360 degree view of the beautiful surroundings. Then there's getting choked by Lord Vader. Who wouldn't love a bird's eye view of the stunning scenery?

    All four of those players were met with so much beauty, they felt like they couldn't take it.
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  • razorus09 wrote: »
    Enough with nerfing everything

    This isn't targeting an individual character, it's bringing all
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    Working as intended.

    Froze a luke on starkiller last night and watched him die, did the same to chewbacca and yoda. Absolutely ridiculous
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  • Yup CC in this game is fine,
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  • TonyGoombah1
    1324 posts Member
    edited July 2018
    This is such a mess. I don't even know how to change all these things properly. Just like mentioned before you get rid of Lando's shock and he becomes useless. That's so poorly designed that you can't even work it out to get something interesting and useful.

    I don't understand where you all get that lando is useless with this purposes "nerf" to CC but "buff for Kylo"

    In a 1v1 engagement, sure he may become slightly weaker. Which is why I agreed that his weapon would need a slight buff. But by no means will he be useless. If all you can do with Lando is stun kill, you need to look inwards at your skill and branch out of the idea of, I can only kill while I have someone CC'ed.

    He stands no chance against saber hero without it, simple. He is no Han, you'll need a total revamp of the character if you want to make him still relevant because thats how he is poorly designed, to be dependant on that.
    Just compare him to the likes of Han, Boba, Bossk, Chewie and come back.

    A console player talking about skill, don't make me laugh.

    Starting off a fight with a 200+ damage headstart is a pretty big deal, why should someone be able to stunlock another player to death? And lando has 800hp you're not dead meat simply because your stun is on cooldown. Sounds like there may be a lack of skill on your end if anything if you stand "no chance" against saber wielders with lando when your stun is on cooldown.
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  • This is such a mess. I don't even know how to change all these things properly. Just like mentioned before you get rid of Lando's shock and he becomes useless. That's so poorly designed that you can't even work it out to get something interesting and useful.

    I don't understand where you all get that lando is useless with this purposes "nerf" to CC but "buff for Kylo"

    In a 1v1 engagement, sure he may become slightly weaker. Which is why I agreed that his weapon would need a slight buff. But by no means will he be useless. If all you can do with Lando is stun kill, you need to look inwards at your skill and branch out of the idea of, I can only kill while I have someone CC'ed.

    He stands no chance against saber hero without it, simple. He is no Han, you'll need a total revamp of the character if you want to make him still relevant because thats how he is poorly designed, to be dependant on that.
    Just compare him to the likes of Han, Boba, Bossk, Chewie and come back.

    A console player talking about skill, don't make me laugh.

    Starting off a fight with a 200+ damage headstart is a pretty big deal, why should someone be able to stunlock another player to death? And lando has 800hp you're not dead meat simply because your stun is on cooldown. Sounds like there may be a lack of skill on your end if anything if you stand "no chance" against saber wielders with lando when your stun is on cooldown.

    +1
  • Defbored
    1434 posts Member
    A console player talking about skill, don't make me laugh.

    LOL

    Really now?... What makes you more qualified to speak of skill? I don't see anything.

    Seriously. What kind of comment is that?
  • it's part of the game. just adapt to it
  • UhOhItsJus wrote: »
    it's part of the game. just adapt to it

    I guess the lightside in my video just needed to adapt.
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  • razorus09 wrote: »
    Enough with nerfing everything

    #notmynerf
  • This is a nerf to most CC, but a direct buff to Kylo, I am all down for it.
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  • GenxDarchi
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    edited July 2018
    I sure do. Getting stunned is one of my three favorite pastimes! Right behind getting frozen, and Dying!
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  • xjippyx
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    Get good
  • TheUltimateHope
    1008 posts Member
    edited July 2018
    This is such a mess. I don't even know how to change all these things properly. Just like mentioned before you get rid of Lando's shock and he becomes useless. That's so poorly designed that you can't even work it out to get something interesting and useful.

    I don't understand where you all get that lando is useless with this purposes "nerf" to CC but "buff for Kylo"

    In a 1v1 engagement, sure he may become slightly weaker. Which is why I agreed that his weapon would need a slight buff. But by no means will he be useless. If all you can do with Lando is stun kill, you need to look inwards at your skill and branch out of the idea of, I can only kill while I have someone CC'ed.

    He stands no chance against saber hero without it, simple. He is no Han, you'll need a total revamp of the character if you want to make him still relevant because thats how he is poorly designed, to be dependant on that.
    Just compare him to the likes of Han, Boba, Bossk, Chewie and come back.

    A console player talking about skill, don't make me laugh.


    So what you're really saying??

    Saber users stands no chance vs HIM because he can stun them and kill them before they get out of the stun.... Seems legit.

    And far as the second comment.

    If i were to come to computer, I would probably play better. No, I take that back, I WOULD play better. Key board and mouse = easy mode.


    What i'm really saying is that both situations (him having his shock vs him not having it) are bad and only showcase the poor design. To rely on one stupid ability to either be godlike vs be almost useless is terrible. Hence why i said that i don't know how to work these abilities properly at this point and why i cited the likes of Han, Boba, Bossk or Chewie (this one doesn't even need a stun, i don't know why they gave it to him) who can all perform at really high level without relying on cheap abilities.

    Total revamp needed, but we won't get it and we all know that very well.
  • saltydog
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  • Sniffy44
    393 posts Member
    kylo should not have 2 of these abilities
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    I sure do. Getting stunned is one of my three favorite pastimes! Right behind getting frozen, and Dying!

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  • This is such a mess. I don't even know how to change all these things properly. Just like mentioned before you get rid of Lando's shock and he becomes useless. That's so poorly designed that you can't even work it out to get something interesting and useful.

    I don't understand where you all get that lando is useless with this purposes "nerf" to CC but "buff for Kylo"

    In a 1v1 engagement, sure he may become slightly weaker. Which is why I agreed that his weapon would need a slight buff. But by no means will he be useless. If all you can do with Lando is stun kill, you need to look inwards at your skill and branch out of the idea of, I can only kill while I have someone CC'ed.

    He stands no chance against saber hero without it, simple. He is no Han, you'll need a total revamp of the character if you want to make him still relevant because thats how he is poorly designed, to be dependant on that.
    Just compare him to the likes of Han, Boba, Bossk, Chewie and come back.

    A console player talking about skill, don't make me laugh.


    So what you're really saying??

    Saber users stands no chance vs HIM because he can stun them and kill them before they get out of the stun.... Seems legit.

    And far as the second comment.

    If i were to come to computer, I would probably play better. No, I take that back, I WOULD play better. Key board and mouse = easy mode.


    What i'm really saying is that both situations (him having his shock vs him not having it) are bad and only showcase the poor design. To rely on one **** ability to either be godlike vs be almost useless is terrible. Hence why i said that i don't know how to work these abilities properly at this point and why i cited the likes of Han, Boba, Bossk or Chewie (this one doesn't even need a stun, i don't know why they gave it to him) who can all perform at really high level without relying on cheap abilities.

    Total revamp needed, but we won't get it and we all know that very well.

    Now that is a good, mature, and constructive comment. You should of said that, rather than insulting those who play on console.

    I agree, his ability to kill within a stun needs to change. That's what this whole post is about. Every CC breaks on 200 damage for troopers 160 or 200 depending on what they devs want, on heroes.

    This would cause a need for his nightsniper to be buffed. His smoke grenade needs a buff. Or changed (I really want his smoke to work, but to me it's meh) If it really worked as intended it would be an amazing ability.

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  • This is such a mess. I don't even know how to change all these things properly. Just like mentioned before you get rid of Lando's shock and he becomes useless. That's so poorly designed that you can't even work it out to get something interesting and useful.

    I don't understand where you all get that lando is useless with this purposes "nerf" to CC but "buff for Kylo"

    In a 1v1 engagement, sure he may become slightly weaker. Which is why I agreed that his weapon would need a slight buff. But by no means will he be useless. If all you can do with Lando is stun kill, you need to look inwards at your skill and branch out of the idea of, I can only kill while I have someone CC'ed.

    He stands no chance against saber hero without it, simple. He is no Han, you'll need a total revamp of the character if you want to make him still relevant because thats how he is poorly designed, to be dependant on that.
    Just compare him to the likes of Han, Boba, Bossk, Chewie and come back.

    A console player talking about skill, don't make me laugh.


    So what you're really saying??

    Saber users stands no chance vs HIM because he can stun them and kill them before they get out of the stun.... Seems legit.

    And far as the second comment.

    If i were to come to computer, I would probably play better. No, I take that back, I WOULD play better. Key board and mouse = easy mode.


    What i'm really saying is that both situations (him having his shock vs him not having it) are bad and only showcase the poor design. To rely on one **** ability to either be godlike vs be almost useless is terrible. Hence why i said that i don't know how to work these abilities properly at this point and why i cited the likes of Han, Boba, Bossk or Chewie (this one doesn't even need a stun, i don't know why they gave it to him) who can all perform at really high level without relying on cheap abilities.

    Total revamp needed, but we won't get it and we all know that very well.

    Honestly you should of said that from the beginning lol well said
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