Iden Versio is OP.
Title says it all. This needs to be fixed somehow. Probably make her gun heat faster.
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I don't find her weapon's machine gun fire to be much better than when a Heavy uses, if you're referring to that. The two models in comparison have the same damage, cooling power (with increased cooling and without cooled blaster for Iden), rate of fire, and damage drop, only difference / contrast being bolt spread differences. I wouldn't want to see that nerfed.
Only problems are stun droid and maybe SF spam + shield durability imo in HvV.
Now if you keep getting caught in the stun, then yeah, you’re dead and had that coming. That’s her “Thing”. Stun drop people. Like Chewie.... so yeah.
Try learning how to counter her, and practice baiting enemies into using their trump abilities. I Promise you’ll be SMOKING Idens Soon enough with time/experience.
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You know who is op. That big walking carpet.
He should visit bossk bakery and try a dioxis cake. Or a proximity pastry.
AND YOU shouldn't be able to spam Stun until a target is in rage.
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But I like the windshield wiper sound effects
She is too good against heroes.
Yeah, but a good Iden is not to be trifled with.
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Agreed 100%. But I've got my *** whooped too. But you said the magic words, "a good iden."
No need to punish good players.
They already nerfed it. Before the nerf, its was pretty nuts. It's fine now.
Killing saber users is very easy. Considering how hard she is to hit when she rolls, the stun droids range, how fast it recharges, how easy it is to use, how it gives health, how fast the time to kill her TL50 is, and the damage and the large area of effect her alternative fire has saber users are very easy to kill.
Except Yoda, but yes they're easy enough. Just don't get caught off guard.
I **** on iden player as a saber user. And vice versa. Doesnt make her op.
Her gun heats fast. That's why I use the card that lowers heat generation on her TL-50.
No, it’s not.
That card is bugged.
It wouldn't surprise me.
When you cool it in the yellow it doesn’t work right. It functions as if you just did a regular cool, if that makes sense.
It does. I guess I'll cool it In the blue one or do a regular cooling.
I just wouldn't use that card tbh, alternative methods is much better and once you time when to use it the results are much more deadly then the standard TL50 fire not building up as much heat.
I only use alternative methods for GA.
I wouldn't change that. It's her thing, like Lando's stun can be triggered "whenever you want", Chewie's is an AoE centered on the explosion and Kylo's/Palpatine's stuns are a cone in front of them that work like any force ability. It is also coherent with her Campaign character.
Her blaster is top tier, but has no fine aim. Her pulse cannon requires a lot of precision and is a high-risk, high-reward ability. I think that sums up Iden overall: she's powerful, but easily overwhelmed against numbers and you have to tread carefully against those who have more firepower such as Han and Chewie.
You also don't think Boba and BEYOND BALANCED BOSSK are overpowered.
Correct...? What's that got to do with this topic? 90% of the community doesn't think Bossk is overpowered too? And don't get me started on Boba particularly in GA.
I agree with everything here, particularly with fixing her droid batteries card and exhausting her stun ability like Force push/choke.
I still think I disagree that she is OP, however (I don’t think you’ve said that she is OP, but I’m quoting you since you’ve played her more thaN anyone else I know, and would be able to convince me if what I’m about to suggest is wrong). The reason being is that when I’m playing as Chewbacca for instance, I have the ability to almost 1v4 a team with a well-placed stun and FB, but cannot do the same with Iden.
I concede that she is just as effective as Chewbacca at going 1v1 with any Hero, however, but you have to be a v. Good Iden player to maneuver your way in a 1v1 against another good saber or blaster Hero; which is not so much the case with Chewie as he allows for a lesser skilled player to be just as effective IMO.
So while I agree that her abilities are not functioning properly, her shield should not be all-protective, and her alt fire could see a Damage reduction to Heroes (definitely NOT infantry), I feel that she is among the best of the Villains not OP.
For the record, I feel that Bossk is OP, and Boba Fett is not (Boba Fett requires more skill to dominate opposition than Bossk IMO, though I think Boba’s Rocket barrage could see a slight reduction in damage against Heroes, adding value to use his increased rocket damage card purpled out).
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Being easy-to-use with skill-less, virtual OHK abilities makes things OP. That makes Iden Versio OP.
What do you think about Iden relative to Chewie though? I agree that Iden is too powerful 1v1 with her stun and blaster, but Chewie seems to allow for less skill yet more deadly outcomes than Iden.
So, from my perspective I would put Chewie and FB into the OP category above Iden, no?
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Chewie is certainly stronger, but that doesn't make Iden not OP. At least his grenade requires a little bit of aim, whereas Iden's shock is 100% skill-less.
Chewie definitely needs a nerf, but so do about seven Dark Side characters.
Yes ok, I’m with you. I’m going to redefine my internal OP meter.
Chewie and FB is currently OP: FB needs a Heroes only damage reduction (stays the same against infantry)
Iden and her stun droid are STILL OP: needs to exhaust even if there are no targets, and the recharge rate should be fixed to align more with Chewie’s grenades perhaps?
Bossk is OP, and I shouldn’t even have to go into it.
Boba Fett is OP in the sense that his rocket barrage needs a bit of a nerf to heroes.
Won’t get into Vader or Kylo’s freeze here, but for those keeping track I’ve only mentioned one Lightside Hero as needing a nerf.
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Well technically the droid isn't really her thing,
She is too good atm, she was actually pretty good in HvV when the game first came out. Great considering how none of her abilities were really worth using. She was just roll around, shoot, and secondarying people and it worked quite well for her. Now she has all these buffs and it put her over the top in HvV.
She is bae and I love her but game balance comes first.
I'm seeing the light now. I agree that she is too much, and her stun droid requires no skill, and recharges way too fast (and also doesn't exhaust if there is no viable target).
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The shield can negate all LS blaster heroes but Chewbacca and Han from doing damage, which combined with the broken droid recharge card you can wait for a stun while building your opponents weapon heat. Chewbacca will do explosive damage through the shield, Han will do burst damage with possible knockdown. Leia/Finn/Lando/Han will just sit there building up weapon heat while the shield will protect Iden until the extremely quick stun cooldown is ready. The shield will not break under fire from a single Hero before overheating their weapon which is a bit strong.
Most people hate the stuns, correcting the droid recharge card will tone down the stun spam, and/or make it so pressing droid stun will exhaust the ability will probably sort her out for most people. Personally I would also tone down her shield hp a tad. I make many bad engagements favourable by simply using the shield and waiting for the cooldown or the enemy to go on cooldown flush.
Come on... You know what I mean. We both have played the campaign, and the droid is there for her on the ground missions (you even control it for the tutorial mission). Sure, it still doesn't work the same (insta-death for the enemies and it doesn't recharge with time), but the "auto-tracking" part is there in the Campaign. Also, by her thing I meant that it is what makes her stun different. I am sure we can agree that it is not a bad thing to make each of these abilities unique. I can agree with you about chasing people outside of its area of effect. If the other player manages to escape of its "radar" count it as a well timed dodge.
I didn't say anything about the recharge. I actually have agreed a few times on other topis about Droid Batteries being too good. I am ok with it having a longer cooldown.
This is reasonable. I think it's strange that I'll misclick any other hero/villian and I deal with the consequences but I can spam LB until someone is locked on without any consequences. Good call out!
At least Iden's doesn't stun me, then start shooting at me on top of it.
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Right. Whatever the thought was behind it, she’s clearly strong enough to not need this handicap(for lack of a better word).