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So, the leaked hero BP change

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DarthJ
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So, leaks saying 6k BP heroes will now be 4.5k, and 8k heroes will be 6k. A couple of things to this.

1 - cross era in GA will get a whole lot worse for those who dont like it. 6k is easily affordable. So enjoy more Rey leading the Clones on Kamino!

2 - they have obviously listened to the minority who complain about never building enough points to get a hero. All this is going to do is ensure the top players, even the 6th-10th players, get heroes more often and quicker than those complaining about it. Thanks for giving me more hero play though! I only see more complaints about this, and I would bet the next focus of xomplaints around this will then be time limited heroes.

Overall, a terrible decision, and not one that was needed.
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  • I think I quite like this change, means I get to have a hero quicker & wreck some infantry with heroes more often.
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  • Congratulations, lightside. The earlier you get your Yoda+Rey combo out there, the earlier you can start trouncing your opposition!

    Earning BP was never that difficult. Getting that 2x modifier active was a chore by itself.

    Eh. We'll see. I can't really imagine how much impact it'll have just yet. The best guys will keep getting their mains out first, as per the norm, but atleast the slow guys "might" get a turn if somehow the good ones screw up.

    Then we can watch in awe as Lord Vader hides behind cover, too afraid to bear down upon the Rebellion, despite having full 950 health and all abilities ready to go. (Yes. You really, REALLY should be allowed to shoot your own teammates who do this.)(To this day, I suffer from flashbacks of all 3 saberwielders, hiding behind the throne room entrances while the clones set up chokepoints and what have you.)
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    The fact is that if you're running it's because you suck, and the game shouldn't pander to players who suck.

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  • DarthJ
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    edited August 2018
    I dont think its taken out of context. I worry that this will lead to an outcry for limited heroes (by time limit, or only use one once) as those who still cant get heroes on GA will complain
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  • DarthJ wrote: »
    I dont think its taken out of context. I worry that this will lead to an outcry for limited heroes (by time limit, or only use one once) as thosr eho still cant get heroes on GA will complain

    To be fair, I think that, should that indeed be the case, one would have a very strong case with an outright "Get good."

    8000 may have been a hassle in some maps, but I cannot see a scenario in which a player who actively takes part in battles cannot muster 4500 BP.

    Arguement null and void if the opposition is a 15+ premade, camping spawns and stuff, mind.
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    The fact is that if you're running it's because you suck, and the game shouldn't pander to players who suck.

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  • Lol things are going to get crazy.
  • when is this happening?
  • MC_XIX
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    Empire_TW wrote: »
    If true this is one of the poorest decisions that will have been made thus far.
    I really hope this is false and no changes to GA hero BP costs are made.

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    But yes, this is a bad move. Heroes should not be awarded this easily. With these changes, the Officers using Battle Command will earn enough BP for a hero within 2 mins of the match starting, and then they'll hold on to that hero for the rest of the match. Sigh.
  • This will definitely change the flow of the mode significantly. My biggest concern is that heroes will begin to dominate Phase 1, even more than they already sometimes do. But I reserve my full criticism until it actually changes and I have a couple weeks to try it out.
  • bfloo
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    They are fixing something that isn't broken with the cost reduction.
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  • The current amount for heroes are fine as they are and i really hope that they will revert it. Good players will get heroes no matter what, and that should also be the reward for being a good player.

    Most of the friends i play with always get 6-8k within the first phase (attacking). This will lead to a more massive stomp as the defenders, who might just get their heroes faster, will have a hero hiding somewhere.

    If you really want to play a hero, there is HvV. I don't know, this just goes to prove that the people who scream highest gets what they want.

    Like soccerparents saying "hey everyone deserves medals! even the kids who aren't winning".
    That doesn't give the same insentive to actually try, and people are already poor losers because they never learn how to lose. Let's see how this plays out.
  • Its turned in to the poor mans/womens game
    If the leaks are true they have lost control
    A quick release of the patch notes would of said finger on pulse and cut off rumors
    Heros should cost 10k bp or more
    Then they mean more and stop the same people hero spamming
    Me to
  • Skill gap widens, will be sub 1 minute heroes with these changes. All for it
  • DarthJ
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    Its turned in to the poor mans/womens game
    If the leaks are true they have lost control
    A quick release of the patch notes would of said finger on pulse and cut off rumors
    Heros should cost 10k bp or more
    Then they mean more and stop the same people hero spamming
    Me to

    Yup. Waiting for a days play into the patch and the first threads will be

    'lets talk about battlepoint changes'
    'I never get to be a hero even more now'
    'there needs to be time limit on heroes'
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  • bfloo
    14435 posts Member
    DarthJ wrote: »
    Its turned in to the poor mans/womens game
    If the leaks are true they have lost control
    A quick release of the patch notes would of said finger on pulse and cut off rumors
    Heros should cost 10k bp or more
    Then they mean more and stop the same people hero spamming
    Me to

    Yup. Waiting for a days play into the patch and the first threads will be

    'lets talk about battlepoint changes'
    'I never get to be a hero even more now'
    'there needs to be time limit on heroes'

    They are writing them already ;)
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  • Skill gap widens, will be sub 1 minute heroes with these changes. All for it

    Yep.
    I get Heros easy and can just charge in destroy and don't even care if I die and then.
    Grab another one.
    This just makes it easy.
    Spend even more time as a Heros or just stick with a enforcer.
  • DarthJ wrote: »
    Its turned in to the poor mans/womens game
    If the leaks are true they have lost control
    A quick release of the patch notes would of said finger on pulse and cut off rumors
    Heros should cost 10k bp or more
    Then they mean more and stop the same people hero spamming
    Me to

    Yup. Waiting for a days play into the patch and the first threads will be

    'lets talk about battlepoint changes'
    'I never get to be a hero even more now'
    'there needs to be time limit on heroes'

    Exactly.
    This is where they will mean nothing .
    People will hide because they don't want to lose them.
    Why.
    Because any Tom **** or Harry can get one.
    One of my kids can get them now and there in 1st year school.
  • Just take the heroes out. Or just have the heroes for that era. Imo which doesn't matter.
  • More variety of enforcers
  • I don't need to test it to know that this idea sucks and will bring nothing good.
  • Elusive_DJ wrote: »
    I think I quite like this change, means I get to have a hero quicker & wreck some infantry with heroes more often.

    should be around the same amount of time without the 2x bp squad bonus
  • bfloo
    14435 posts Member
    duvelsuper wrote: »
    Elusive_DJ wrote: »
    I think I quite like this change, means I get to have a hero quicker & wreck some infantry with heroes more often.

    should be around the same amount of time without the 2x bp squad bonus

    The 2x multiplier hasn't worked for a while.
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  • Like seriously, a normal change i'd expect over time is to make heroes harder to have access to as people get better and know more and more shortcuts to farm the points. After the little adaptation needed when the x2 was gone i and some others were back to getting enough points for heroes in the first 2-3 minutes (with Assault ! it is even simpler with Officer or Heavy on some maps).
    Game should be harder to maintain the same challenge, not get easier.
  • BAD decision

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  • bfloo wrote: »
    duvelsuper wrote: »
    Elusive_DJ wrote: »
    I think I quite like this change, means I get to have a hero quicker & wreck some infantry with heroes more often.

    should be around the same amount of time without the 2x bp squad bonus

    The 2x multiplier hasn't worked for a while.

    Yep
    Part of me can't wait to kill troops near the start or the game with a hero
    Then I also think it will ruin the troop battles
  • I just hope that the squad system will be good enough to rectify the cost going down.
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  • Carlossus wrote: »
    You've taken the changes out of context though, they said the bonus 2x multiplier will be (intentionally) removed with the upcoming squad system changes, and therefore BP earning rates will naturally be slower. They have lowered the requirements on BP unlocks to go alongside this change to the rate of earning BP.

    Yeah, except the x2 multiplier has been buggy and inconsistent since launch.
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  • GA just got a self destruct patch Lol
  • GA just got a self destruct patch Lol

    Practically. If you die within the first phase, Chances are you are not getting a hero.
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GA just got a self destruct patch Lol

    Practically. If you die within the first phase, Chances are you are not getting a hero.

    My thoughts were more that the Hero mess will occur sooner and less people play the mode...only hope are saviour troopers get the Hero and then hide so the Hero aspect gets negated
  • bfloo
    14435 posts Member
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GA just got a self destruct patch Lol

    Practically. If you die within the first phase, Chances are you are not getting a hero.

    My thoughts were more that the Hero mess will occur sooner and less people play the mode...only hope are saviour troopers get the Hero and then hide so the Hero aspect gets negated

    Heroes come out in the 1st 2 minutes sometimes anyway, this wont effect that part too much.
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  • t3hBar0n
    5000 posts Member
    DarthJ wrote: »
    So, leaks saying 6k BP heroes will now be 4.5k, and 8k heroes will be 6k. A couple of things to this.

    1 - cross era in GA will get a whole lot worse for those who dont like it. 6k is easily affordable. So enjoy more Rey leading the Clones on Kamino!

    2 - they have obviously listened to the minority who complain about never building enough points to get a hero. All this is going to do is ensure the top players, even the 6th-10th players, get heroes more often and quicker than those complaining about it. Thanks for giving me more hero play though! I only see more complaints about this, and I would bet the next focus of xomplaints around this will then be time limited heroes.

    Overall, a terrible decision, and not one that was needed.

    The noobs didn't know what they were asking for... by removing the 2x multi it just serves to widen the skill gap between those who can easily get heroes and those who had to depend on lick and the 2x multi to hope to get one... I'm fine with it lol, now on the rare occasions I die i the first rush my chances of getting a hero are still good.
  • Abuuru
    421 posts Member
    i kinda like this change.
  • Admiral_Xen
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    edited August 2018
    if the intent is to make it easier for noobs to play as a hero, this will have the opposite effect.

    Now top players will just get the heroes within a minute of the start of the game and build enough BP to chain them.
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  • Batman20
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    edited August 2018
    This is a silly decision nothing wrong with the bp charge for heroes. At least it requires a bit of work to earn them even if it's not that hard. But this cheap would just make it ridiculously easy to get a hero. And officers will be laughing as they will have one within a few minutes . Plus it will just increase the people sitting in the menu waiting for a hero
  • :D Heroes faster!!!
    Nerfing the Ion Torpedo!!!

    Thank you, this will add to my kill count greatly!! :D
  • Finally, a decent change for once
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  • StarWars0525
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    edited August 2018
    Your all dead then. Spawning palpatine on every map now.
  • Ill try it out, but I suspect I wont be playing GA for the foreseeable future. They need less heroes/reinforcements, not to make them easier to obtain...
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  • I think they are trying to get the player base to leave this game.
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  • I think they are trying to get the player base to leave this game.

    They are doing a great job that’s for sure
  • I think they are trying to get the player base to leave this game.

    They really are trying it seems.

    The thoughtlessness behind this decision is immeasurable.
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  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    I think they are trying to get the player base to leave this game.

    They really are trying it seems.

    The thoughtlessness behind this decision is immeasurable.

    Just catering to the most vocal who tend to be those at the left hand side of the skill bell curve. It only goes to widen the gap as this sort of malarkey only makes it harder for them, not those who already find this game fairly easymode
  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    I think they are trying to get the player base to leave this game.

    They really are trying it seems.

    The thoughtlessness behind this decision is immeasurable.

    Just catering to the most vocal who tend to be those at the left hand side of the skill bell curve. It only goes to widen the gap as this sort of malarkey only makes it harder for them, not those who already find this game fairly easymode

    Now I'll be able to suicide bomb my hero into the objective, clear a path for my team, and still spawn as a hero again by the time my team can complete the objective. I don't see any potential problem here. Just sounds like a lot of fun for me.
  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    I think they are trying to get the player base to leave this game.

    They really are trying it seems.

    The thoughtlessness behind this decision is immeasurable.

    the obvious next move is to make Wookiees 1000 BP in order to "balance" them against the new hero cost
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  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    I think they are trying to get the player base to leave this game.

    They really are trying it seems.

    The thoughtlessness behind this decision is immeasurable.

    the obvious next move is to make Wookiees 1000 BP in order to "balance" them against the new hero cost

    And then this will happen.

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  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    I think they are trying to get the player base to leave this game.

    They really are trying it seems.

    The thoughtlessness behind this decision is immeasurable.

    the obvious next move is to make Wookiees 1000 BP in order to "balance" them against the new hero cost

    And then this will happen.

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    you forgot Finn
  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    I think they are trying to get the player base to leave this game.

    They really are trying it seems.

    The thoughtlessness behind this decision is immeasurable.

    the obvious next move is to make Wookiees 1000 BP in order to "balance" them against the new hero cost

    Make em cost 666.
  • LaurenXIV wrote: »
    Ill try it out, but I suspect I wont be playing GA for the foreseeable future. They need less heroes/reinforcements, not to make them easier to obtain...

    I agree completely @LaurenXIV .
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