


Sonic Forces (Spoilers)
I just beat the campaign and I must say, I love it! Though I wish I could add more outfits to my closet (because I already filled it up, more or less, halfway though the game), it was a fun experience, and I loved the final boss.
One problem I had was with Classic Sonic, and that he was always referred to as Sonic from another dimension, instead of Sonic from the past (and it is implied that Classic Sonic is the one from Sonic Generations, instead of open-ended enough to be a different Classic Sonic). Another problem is that I don't fully what the phantom ruby does (more on that when I think of a good way to explain that).
One problem I had was with Classic Sonic, and that he was always referred to as Sonic from another dimension, instead of Sonic from the past (and it is implied that Classic Sonic is the one from Sonic Generations, instead of open-ended enough to be a different Classic Sonic). Another problem is that I don't fully what the phantom ruby does (more on that when I think of a good way to explain that).
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I can't believe I forgot the word understand (added in quote, and italicized for emphasis).
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Congrats! I would buy it, but I am saving up for another game. What would you rate it?
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8/10 It's a really fun game, and I love the avatar creation, but some challenges are more difficult and annoying than most other things in the game (well in Episode Shadow at least, where in Stages 1 and 2 I got an S Rank by not dying {well when I replayed Stage 2 in hard mode, I didn't die but just got an A rank}, but in Stage 3 it requires hard mode, a no hit run, and every ring you can grab, or go as fast as possible), and there's section where it looks like you could boost, but doing so has consistently sent me careening into the abyss, also during the final boss the avatar would sometimes refuse to homing attack.
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So, no bugs except that one? That is pretty good.Either way it sounds pretty fun by how you described it.
Also, your welcome. I saw you didn't get any replies, so I might as well have.
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Well, that's one or two of the only ones I actually ran into, but I just remembered that some wispons give you a speed boost upon landing, which makes platforming really difficult.
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Dang. 50 retries? Was it worth it?
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I completed it so I'd say so.
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Yeah, I guess if you complete it, it is worth it. Any replay ability?
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(Second time posting this) Oh yeah. In every main level (except for most boss levels) there are 5 red star rings scattered throughout each level, after you collect those you unlock the ability to collect the five number rings which must be collected in order, counting down from 5 (not one, like I first thought), and getting those unlocks the ability to collect the silver moon rings which must be collected before they disappear, and though you could grab any ring in any order, it might not work since the timer (which starts as soon as you grab the first one) could be very strict (also the green number, and silver moon rings must be got in one life, and then you must hit a checkpoint to ensure that you keep them).
There's challenges which require you to complete certain tasks like defeating a certain number of enemies in a certain way, using each wispon, beating each level, getting an S rank in every (or almost every) stage, beating certain stages in a certain amount of time, and ranking up each species of avatar to each gold medal rank (up to three gold medals, or 30 ranks max). Each challenge (except for some, but I'll get to that later) unlocks parts and/or wispons for your avatar.
Then there are bonus levels, which you unlock by beating challenges that require getting a certain amount of red rings (and I'm not sure if the same applies to green or silver rings), and secret levels that unlock when you liberate each part of the world.
There's daily challenges (though you actually get 3 days worth of challenges posted at the same time, so you could get them done without logging in everyday) where completing them activates a score multiplier that kicks in as soon as you complete them (or as soon as you log in, if you completed it ahead of time) that lasts for 30 minutes (this unlocks alongside the challenges after you beat stage 3), and SOS missions where you have to save other people's avatars from the stages you already completed (this might not count boss, bonus, or secret levels) without dying (these unlock after, I believe, stage 5). SOS missions come in three varietys: red, where you play as someone else's avatar. Green, which function similar to rental avatars (where you can recruit someone else's avatar to accompany you, where you can change which avatar you play as with LT) but the game picks them for you, and you can't opt out. And blue, where you have to find a capsule hidden in the stage, and open it, thus freeing the avatar. SOS missions could potentially appear after beating a stage, or checking your avatar.
And finally there's hard mode (well the game is set to hard mode by default, but you could change it to normal mode in the options menu) where your best time is added to the rankings, to compare them with the best times with other players from around the world. Also the difference between normal and hard mode is that in normal, each hit you take makes you lose 20 rings, but it caps at 100, while in hard mode you can hold onto as many rings as you can grab, but getting hit once makes you lose all of them (this is what made the S rank in stage 3 of Episode Shadow a pain, since you have to treat your over 500 rings {unless you can pull off the speed run method, but I couldn't} as Gollum would treat his one ring, not letting anything take the "presious").
Also there's the dlc (but only one of them adds new levels to your game {each with their own red star, green number, and silver moon rings} "Episode Shadow" which adds a 3 level prequal of sorts that leads into the main game {with the last cutscene in this mode being one of the first ones in the main game}, while the others add some more parts for your avatar, or Super Sonic {though, I heard that there might be an Episode Silver at some point, but it's not out yet, and I don't know if plans changed and it was cancelled, or if it was just a rumor}), and the Xbox One and PS4 versions add achievements/trophies to the game (though most of them are just doing tasks already in the game, except for the ones that require destroying a lot of enemies, and the ones that require collecting a lot of rings, but I got the last "enemies" {not actual title, but it fits} one on my journey through the main game and episode shadow).
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I don't think so.
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1. In level 22 (during an SOS mission) I was Super Sonic, and when I went to the spring I did not press forward, so he fell to his doom (that's why I mentioned bottomless pits)
2. One section in level 29 is very familiar to another game franchise and
3. I actually thought of names for some of my avatars, of the five my first one (a hedgehog) I named Avalon (because I was thinking of words that start with av), my fifth on is meany to be Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, I haven't thought of names for two (bird), and three (cat) yet (well I might have for the bird, but I forgot, which is partly why I'm posting this part), but for the forth one, who is a bear, I just thought of a "no-prize" name for, Berry.
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I just thought I'll call the cat, Cherry. (And that I should have my ideas before posting, but eh, this is apparently my process).
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I just beat a red SOS mission, with an avatar that has that ability, and I realized that if you don't hold the control stick in any direction before hitting the ground, the avatar won't gain the speed boost, meaning you could preform precision jumps without bolting into a bottomless pit.
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1.If you complete daily challenges every day, eventually you will get a 3x score multiplier, and as long as you don't miss a day, you will keep the multiplier (I learned that the hard way, since I spent a long time trying to 3 star yesterday's daily siege on the Battlefront Companion App, and only had enough time left for the Battlefront Daily Challenge, since I knew what it was from the App).
2. At some point I made a new avatar who I named Commander Wolfie (after the clone general, though when I was first thinking of names I was thinking of Wolfie {in the same vein as Wing, not as a reference to something} using Sonic naming conventions, and decided against "Wolfie the Wolf").
3. Iron Fortress is "that one level" for me since it always gave me trouble, but today was even worse. So, I was getting the Red, Green, and Silver Rings in one of the Avatar stages, the jungle one to give more details, since one of the two daily challenges was "beat an avatar stage", while beating (or failing, but more on that later) whatever SOS missions popped up, and I still had some time left on today's 3x score multiplier (the last one for awhile, as detailed above) so, I decided to get an S rank on the stage and the last two Red Rings, but I died a few times which means that even though I had the 3x multiplier, I still got just an A (a marked improvement from the C I had originally, but still), at least I got the Red Star Rings though. Then a Extra Stage (and SOS Mission) unlocked so I went after those, and at this point the multiplier had run it's course (I wasn't that good at the bonus stage either), so after that I went back to Iron Fortress for the Green Number Rings, and I didn't even die once, but I guess since I didn't have enough rings, or took to long, or didn't have even the smallest of multipliers, I got an A rank... But the progress bar was completely filled in, which means I was less than a hair off, which stings. Finally I went for the Silver Moon Rings, and it was par for the course (maybe a bit better, maybe a bit worse).
4.I knew this awhile ago, so it's not that new but, a few of my deaths in SOS Missions (which you only have one life in) are from things I could easily do, or have done on my first try when I beat the stage regularly. Bummer.
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1. I searched using Bing, and Clone Commander's name is Wolffe, not Wolfie.
2. In that level where I said boosting will kill you. It doesn't, the problem was that there wasn't any railings during a curve, and you're supposed to turn with the curve, what I was doing wrong was expecting Sonic to automatically turn, which he didn't. Tried to, but couldn't.
3. Regarding the SOS missions, it popped up in stage 10, and I died from a beginner trap, because there was one enemy that shows up right before any rings, and I managed to walk into it, I believe I even had a shocked look on my face. I didn't think of this at first but it's like walking into a Goomba.
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Oh, that’s not bad. Is the avatar a custom character?
(Sorry, had school for a few.)
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1. Good to know lol.
2. You already addressed the mistake, so nvm.
3. Well, that sucks lol. You were close though.
4. It’s almost like DS, where after the fact you realize how easy it is.
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Yes.
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That's actually Really cool! So you can pick your skills and such as well?
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Each species has their own unique ability, and they can wield wispons, each type having unique abilities depending on which one you use (and a few variations each that could add a variety of different effects to your character, and a "default" version that doesn't have an effect {though it is possible to earn a variation before the "default" one}).
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Nice! Which one is the best in your opinion?
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I'm not sure, they all have their uses, though the burst ability isn't my favorite because my timing is off. Also I forgot to mention that every wispon has an attack, which can be used with RT, and a color power which can be used by finding the corresponding Wisp (which is found where you need to use then) and pressing (or holding) Y.
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Burst is the speed boost right? And what do the Wisps do? Do you need a specific wisp to complete some missions?
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Burst is a flame thrower wispon, it's color power launches you in the air, which starts draining it's color power, as long as it has juice you can keep pressing Y to go higher and higher into the air (some Red Star Rings require you to time your burst ability so you'll be propelled into another red wisp in mid-air, refilling your color power, and you have to continuously burst and hit the red wisp capsules along the way until you reach the objective {typically the collectible rings, but some of them might just lead to a shortcut... Which might also contain those rings}, but what usually happens is that I miss the next red wisp, and I fall to whatever's below me... even a bottomless pit).
The speed boost ability is an "effect" (as I can't think of another name for them). Each unique type of wispon has multiple "variants" which have effects added that will affect the avatar in different ways depending on the effect (some effects let you start with 5 rings, some give you a burst of speed when hitting the ground, some give you a shield, ect.).
Wispons are not needed to beat a stage, but some collectible rings (a Red Star, the 5 Green Number, or the 5 Silver Moon rings, depending on the level) require a certain wispon to get them, with some overlap (typically a puzzle that "requires" burst will also work with hover, but it might be set up to favor burst, which is why that one level took 50 lives).
Wisps are little aliens which are trapped in capsules, if you free the "color" ones, and have the corresponding wispon (red for burst, green for hover, purple for void, ect.) it will fill your color meter (the gauge around the wispon icon on the HUD) and if you use Y you can activate each wispon's unique color power (press Y to burst into the air, hold Y to hover, hold Y and tilt the control stick in the direction you want to go teleport, ect.), there are also Wisps in sonic stages, but they just fill the boost meter.
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I can't believe I missed that (again fixed in italics).
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Oh, so it's like a Jetpack almost? That's cool.
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1. I made a new avatar, named Genji.
2. The Silver Moon Medals in the classic casino level are really difficult.
3. I overcomplicated getting the Green Number Rings in Stage 15.
4. I played a blue SOS Mission (Stage 2), and I forgot to even look for the capsule.
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I forgot to mention that I couldn't find the Silver Rings (Moon Medals are something else, from Sonic Unleashed) the first time I looked for them, and reached the end of the casino stage, so I hit the sign post, and accidentally beat the time challenge. So that was a nice surprise.
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Accidentally beat the time challenge? GG
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Oddly there's no Achievement for getting all S Ranks, or challenges for getting them in the secret stages for that matter.
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Congrats Dude, but that is weird that it wouldn’t give an achievement for the S ranks. How many achievements have you gotten?
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Just a few left, all but two are secret achievements (one of them is "complete all challenges" which covers all but six S Ranks). I forgot the exact number though.
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What’s the other one?
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I don't remember, but there's a few secret achievements left (or maybe just the one), but all the secret achievements could be gotten during regular 100% completion. It's the regular achievements that require doing certain things you might not regularly do.
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There was a green SOS Mission in that level, last one for this play session, and the "rental" avatar had Burst, whereas my guy (Hanzo) had a newly unlocked Hover. So, I used Burst,in an attempt to see if it would be easier (I think I also tried before, but I overshot), and I got those Silver Moon Rings in one shot, no mistakes... of course it's when I didn't need them (the problem is that what I did differently was hold right, and continuously hit Y, with the occasional pause. So the simple solution, as opposed to what I've been doing).
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