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DarthCapa2
2884 posts Member
edited October 2018
Is essentially a bigger heroes vs villains. The hero limit must be 2 in all the 3 phases of the game. 2 are already enough.
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  • sounds boring 4 heroes stay.
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  • just wait till the new mode comes out maybe it will only be 1 or 2 heroes max.
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  • i saw 3 at-st on yavin ...
  • Danxoln
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    Sometimes 4 can feel excessive, I think 3 for the last phase would be perfect.
    unit900000 wrote: »
    just wait till the new mode comes out maybe it will only be 1 or 2 heroes max.

    I'm personally hoping for 3 the entire game on the new mode. I dont think it will feel like too much because they will likely be spread out over multiple points
  • mawr heroes.
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  • WodiQuix wrote: »
    Two Heroes max per side, like in the Beta, would be much better. Like OP said, the last phase of GA is essentially a chaotic round of HvV and can make anything infantry players do pretty much useless. Hero Spam in GA is very annoying.

    Thank you
  • "Always two there are, no more, no less..." - Yoda

    Even Yoda knew it before this game released. He is indeed the wisest.
  • Yep, 2 aside please - and increase the cost. It very normal these days to see two in phase one of GA.

    You should only be able to get them from phase two onwards.
  • I may try out one match to see how it is, but most likely sticking to Strike until the Heroes go down. How long is the event? I must've missed the post.
  • Omniscient wrote: »
    Can’t wait to see the responses after the upcoming Hero GA BP event.

    8 Heroes, per side, during all phases...

    The OP and supporters of the current complaint will either have a well-suited conniption...or just avoid GA during the event altogether.

    Others will start new threads begging for the event to become a permanent change to the mode.

    It is going to be an...interesting debate.

    Interesting is one way of putting it - it's gonna be madness!
  • WodiQuix
    4537 posts Member
    edited October 2018
    WodiQuix wrote: »
    I may try out one match to see how it is, but most likely sticking to Strike until the Heroes go down. How long is the event? I must've missed the post.

    Never mind, I just saw the roadmap. Ugh, that does not sound fun. Chaos unleashed for sure.
  • WodiQuix wrote: »
    I may try out one match to see how it is, but most likely sticking to Strike until the Heroes go down. How long is the event? I must've missed the post.

    The event is mentioned in the October calendar:

    https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/121250/community-calendar-october

    Battle Point Event: Heroes Unleashed
  • WodiQuix
    4537 posts Member
    edited October 2018
    Omniscient wrote: »
    WodiQuix wrote: »
    I may try out one match to see how it is, but most likely sticking to Strike until the Heroes go down. How long is the event? I must've missed the post.

    The event is mentioned in the October calendar:

    https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/121250/community-calendar-october

    Battle Point Event: Heroes Unleashed

    Yeah, I just saw it. Thanks, though! I agree with you, it'll be interesting, to say the least, to see the threads that pop up here during the event.
  • bfloo wrote: »
    Omniscient wrote: »
    Can’t wait to see the responses after the upcoming Hero GA BP event.

    8 Heroes, per side, during all phases...

    The OP and supporters of the current complaint will either have a well-suited conniption...or just avoid GA during the event altogether.

    Others will start new threads begging for the event to become a permanent change to the mode.

    It is going to be an...interesting debate.

    I think i'll chew on tin foil instead of suffering through that debacle

    Don’t do that, friend. We must maintain our tinfoil reserves for our hats.

    I’m going to exploit the heck out of it just for the poodoos and giggles. With the 75% further reduction on the Heroes already deeply discounted costs, I’ll absolutely be doing:

    Recharge Command > Recharge Command > Respawn as Hero/Villain.

    You think we see a lot of officers now...
  • bfloo
    15027 posts Member
    Omniscient wrote: »
    bfloo wrote: »
    Omniscient wrote: »
    Can’t wait to see the responses after the upcoming Hero GA BP event.

    8 Heroes, per side, during all phases...

    The OP and supporters of the current complaint will either have a well-suited conniption...or just avoid GA during the event altogether.

    Others will start new threads begging for the event to become a permanent change to the mode.

    It is going to be an...interesting debate.

    I think i'll chew on tin foil instead of suffering through that debacle

    Don’t do that, friend. We must maintain our tinfoil reserves for our hats.

    I’m going to exploit the heck out of it just for the poodoos and giggles. With the 75% further reduction on the Heroes already deeply discounted costs, I’ll absolutely be doing:

    Recharge Command > Recharge Command > Respawn as Hero/Villain.

    You think we see a lot of officers now...

    hero play in this game is just so noob toob. You really only need 4 buttons :|
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  • KresusFIN
    2716 posts Member
    edited October 2018
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  • WodiQuix
    4537 posts Member
    KresusFIN wrote: »
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    I'm sensing some subliminal messaging here. Something tells me its about the Stinger Pistol! :D
  • Devlin21 wrote: »
    4 is needed to push on most maps.

    Not really, especially as a lot of hero users dont play the objective and run around just killing people, if anything too many heroes mean objectives are easy to defend if the heroes are smart, kashyyyk, death star, kamino etc
  • DarthCapa2 wrote: »
    2 was perfect in the beta. I need to remember that the multiple heroes glitch on battlefront 2015 was one of the most hated glitch of the history of the fame, and was a great problem for the fame balance. Why here should be different? With 4 heroes the game is so unbalanced

    It's still not even fixed I've been in lobbies recently with 5 Heroes on one side before. It's only overpowered because the Heroes in that game had massively amped damage, HP, and movement speed. Here multiple Heroes isn't really an Issue, troopers can now take them on solo. I think it's balanced.
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  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    Omniscient wrote: »
    I’m going to exploit the heck out of it just for the poodoos and giggles.
    Sounds to me like a lot of poodoo and little to no giggles.

    Omniscient wrote: »
    With the 75% further reduction on the Heroes already deeply discounted costs, I’ll absolutely be doing:

    Recharge Command > Recharge Command > Respawn as Hero/Villain.

    You think we see a lot of officers now...
    This is the kind of cheap shallow play the hero obsession in this game encourages. The core of the game -- the troopers -- becomes an irritant you have to take up to get to what you really want -- the hero.

    This is why we need a clear delineation between Hero modes and Assault modes. People who want heroes should be able to jump into a Hero mode and go right to their hero. A good selection of Hero modes would help, so they don't get bored -- HvV, HS, Hero Blast, Hero Hunt, etc.

    Instead, they're just mudding the waters by pushing heroes in an Assault Mode, then promoting an 8v8 abomination on top of everything else.

    This is precisely why I made my reply. It showcases the ludicrousness of the event. My intent is to help tilt the scale to absurdity so that it fans the flames of the forthcoming rebuttal posts to the event.

    The opening of the Hero floodgates are going to flip the roles of players. All of the Heroes/Villains will be PTO while the Troopers will be relegated to skirting the edges of the maps, taking ranged shots at the Heroes/Villains.

    The Stinger will come out in droves.

    Basically, it’s going to be an extended HvV mode, with the addition of outside fire.
  • I barely go after the hero anymore. I'll stick playing the heavy or assault, officer. If I want to play a hero I'll do HvV instead.
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  • Zirius
    231 posts Member
    Omniscient wrote: »
    Can’t wait to see the responses after the upcoming Hero GA BP event.

    8 Heroes, per side, during all phases...

    The OP and supporters of the current complaint will either have a well-suited conniption...or just avoid GA during the event altogether.

    Others will start new threads begging for the event to become a permanent change to the mode.

    It is going to be an...interesting debate.

    I won't touch GA during that event.
  • Omniscient wrote: »
    JackTHorn wrote: »
    Omniscient wrote: »
    I’m going to exploit the heck out of it just for the poodoos and giggles.
    Sounds to me like a lot of poodoo and little to no giggles.

    Omniscient wrote: »
    With the 75% further reduction on the Heroes already deeply discounted costs, I’ll absolutely be doing:

    Recharge Command > Recharge Command > Respawn as Hero/Villain.

    You think we see a lot of officers now...
    This is the kind of cheap shallow play the hero obsession in this game encourages. The core of the game -- the troopers -- becomes an irritant you have to take up to get to what you really want -- the hero.

    This is why we need a clear delineation between Hero modes and Assault modes. People who want heroes should be able to jump into a Hero mode and go right to their hero. A good selection of Hero modes would help, so they don't get bored -- HvV, HS, Hero Blast, Hero Hunt, etc.

    Instead, they're just mudding the waters by pushing heroes in an Assault Mode, then promoting an 8v8 abomination on top of everything else.

    This is precisely why I made my reply. It showcases the ludicrousness of the event. My intent is to help tilt the scale to absurdity so that it fans the flames of the forthcoming rebuttal posts to the event.

    The opening of the Hero floodgates are going to flip the roles of players. All of the Heroes/Villains will be PTO while the Troopers will be relegated to skirting the edges of the maps, taking ranged shots at the Heroes/Villains.

    The Stinger will come out in droves.

    Basically, it’s going to be an extended HvV mode, with the addition of outside fire.
    Fair point. I haven't played GA more than a few times in the past few months, so this hero-spam-fest sure isn't going to bring me in. I'm hoping it will get record low GA numbers and they'll get the message, but being realistic, there are probably enough 9-year-olds and hero-obsessives playing that it'll boom instead.

    I barely go after the hero anymore. I'll stick playing the heavy or assault, officer. If I want to play a hero I'll do HvV instead.
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  • wow, the news just keeps getting better and better, 8 Heroes on both sides? Too bad it's before the Health cards come out.
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  • I have a better name for the event, “Return of Hero Hunt, bigger and better!”.
    #infantrylivesmatter
  • I 100% agree with the OP! I also suggested in the past that Hero limits should always be 2, including during the last phase. They're suppose to be very valuable units that can help their teams lead to victories on many situations, but should not always be far too central.
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  • WodiQuix
    4537 posts Member
    edited October 2018
    I 100% agree with the OP! I also suggested in the past that Hero limits should always be 2, including during the last phase. They're suppose to be very valuable units that can help their teams lead to victories on many situations, but should not always be far too central.

    Agreed. The Beta had the number perfect. Heroes are way too central right now in determining the outcome of a GA match, so much so that anything infantry players do is rendered near useless. They just can't compete in the tight corridors and small objective areas.
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    I miss the Beta

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  • Omniscient wrote: »
    Can’t wait to see the responses after the upcoming Hero GA BP event.

    8 Heroes, per side, during all phases...

    The OP and supporters of the current complaint will either have a well-suited conniption...or just avoid GA during the event altogether.

    Others will start new threads begging for the event to become a permanent change to the mode.

    It is going to be an...interesting debate.

    Don't worry I will evade that event. 8 heroes vs 8 heroes in Galactic Assault? Basically heroes vs villains...
    Seem that the word balance is utopy for some players. Some players just want a chaotic and no sense game. Cross era heroes, 8 heroes on 20 players, enforcer like wookiees able to 2 shots heroes, immortal troopers with 500/600 health, random explosions and blinds effects, yes some players want all this.....
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  • FriedPizza773
    1163 posts Member
    edited October 2018
    You guys got your panties all in a bunch, its just a weekend good god.

    The thread wasn't referring to the 8v8 weekend....just the fact that there is already too much Hero spam in GA.

    This^^. I suppose I don't mind that they decided to do the Hero Unleash event for crazy fun so long as it is only temporary (after all they did the same with the vehicles, and they are gonna do the same with Special Units). But I do hope that this event does not encourage players to ask for something more for the Heroes outside of the event, like raising limits to 4 in all phases. :confounded:
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  • OP, with respect I would like to suggest you change the thread's title by replacing the word "bug" with other word like "event" or "Hero Unleash". This is to make sure people won't get easily confused this topic with the event.
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  • DarthCapa2 wrote: »
    2 was perfect in the beta. I need to remember that the multiple heroes glitch on battlefront 2015 was one of the most hated glitch of the history of the fame, and was a great problem for the fame balance. Why here should be different? With 4 heroes the game is so unbalanced

    First off, the glitch in that game was bad because the heroes could go through dozens of troops and push control points by themselves. In this one you have to have at least two with synchronization. Comparing these heroes to those heroes is like Apples and Oranges.
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    DarthCapa2 wrote: »
    2 was perfect in the beta. I need to remember that the multiple heroes glitch on battlefront 2015 was one of the most hated glitch of the history of the fame, and was a great problem for the fame balance. Why here should be different? With 4 heroes the game is so unbalanced

    First off, the glitch in that game was bad because the heroes could go through dozens of troops and push control points by themselves. In this one you have to have at least two with synchronization. Comparing these heroes to those heroes is like Apples and Oranges.

    You can also push and take objectives without Heroes....the matches are usually very intense and fun till OP Hero tanks show up. Blows my mind how so many think they cant do anything without Heroes.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    DarthCapa2 wrote: »
    2 was perfect in the beta. I need to remember that the multiple heroes glitch on battlefront 2015 was one of the most hated glitch of the history of the fame, and was a great problem for the fame balance. Why here should be different? With 4 heroes the game is so unbalanced

    First off, the glitch in that game was bad because the heroes could go through dozens of troops and push control points by themselves. In this one you have to have at least two with synchronization. Comparing these heroes to those heroes is like Apples and Oranges.

    You can also push and take objectives without Heroes....the matches are usually very intense and fun till OP Hero tanks show up. Blows my mind how so many think they cant do anything without Heroes.

    No, you can definitely push and take objectives without heroes, but on maps like Kashyyyk phase 2, good luck trying to push in there with Wookies, Officers, and troops. Especially since they can just spawn in on their allies lol.
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    DarthCapa2 wrote: »
    2 was perfect in the beta. I need to remember that the multiple heroes glitch on battlefront 2015 was one of the most hated glitch of the history of the fame, and was a great problem for the fame balance. Why here should be different? With 4 heroes the game is so unbalanced

    First off, the glitch in that game was bad because the heroes could go through dozens of troops and push control points by themselves. In this one you have to have at least two with synchronization. Comparing these heroes to those heroes is like Apples and Oranges.

    You can also push and take objectives without Heroes....the matches are usually very intense and fun till OP Hero tanks show up. Blows my mind how so many think they cant do anything without Heroes.

    No, you can definitely push and take objectives without heroes, but on maps like Kashyyyk phase 2, good luck trying to push in there with Wookies, Officers, and troops. Especially since they can just spawn in on their allies lol.

    Is it better with Heroes spawning on their allies in there?
  • GenxDarchi
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    edited October 2018
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    DarthCapa2 wrote: »
    2 was perfect in the beta. I need to remember that the multiple heroes glitch on battlefront 2015 was one of the most hated glitch of the history of the fame, and was a great problem for the fame balance. Why here should be different? With 4 heroes the game is so unbalanced

    First off, the glitch in that game was bad because the heroes could go through dozens of troops and push control points by themselves. In this one you have to have at least two with synchronization. Comparing these heroes to those heroes is like Apples and Oranges.

    You can also push and take objectives without Heroes....the matches are usually very intense and fun till OP Hero tanks show up. Blows my mind how so many think they cant do anything without Heroes.

    No, you can definitely push and take objectives without heroes, but on maps like Kashyyyk phase 2, good luck trying to push in there with Wookies, Officers, and troops. Especially since they can just spawn in on their allies lol.

    Is it better with Heroes spawning on their allies in there?

    Probably not, but then again if you get any one droid in there you can spawn heroes in and they can actually help take out the guys in the tank, rather than getting oneshot by Overloads.

    And besides, a hotfix made it to where heroes can't spawn on allies.
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