EOR Matchmaking Test, Strike and Blast

Devlin21 · October 12, 2018 11:44PM

howardvw wrote: »

Stop now.
Sucks all around. Lag bigtime. Matching not good. Games not full and worse of all same repeating of only 4 maps.
Xbox.

The 4 maps is on purpose

H4YW1R3 · October 12, 2018 11:58PM

Blast is unplayable with this [removed] matchmaking system. Wait in a lobby forever til it finally fills and you get a game, only to be thrown into an empty lobby again after the round. Every [removed] time. Can't keep a single lobby going, let alone complete a map rotation. Tried for more than two hours and got to play two games of Blast. Wasn't about to wait for a third lobby to fill.

It's [removed] simple what we want. Each map played once in each rotation. Remain in same lobby/rotation with the same players, with teams shuffled at the end of round. No searching for the same game mode/different (empty) lobby after every [removed] round.

Keep saying you're listening when feedback is clear and the same every time you've turned this ***** matchmaking system on that it's not what we want or are asking for. But since EA's crate progression scam failed, they just want the game to fail without coming right out and saying it. Wouldn't want any bad PR harming their relations with their Disney cash cow. Why else pull all their resources from the game, leaving only contractors who don't know what the [removed]they're doing to oversee development, and push all these changes people are clearly against?

vivaladavidoff · October 13, 2018 12:01AM

In Blast: It's been putting me on weak teams or ridiculously OP teams all night, it's just been stomps. Not had one close game yet unfortunately.
I don't think you'll ever really manage to balance the teams, and the bigger flaw is that you've built the whole game around the concept of a race to get the most OP gimmicks. In Blast games will begin and even with a weaker team I can keep up a decent enough kill rate to make a game out of it so it's still fun, then the Enforcers arrive and the balance is completely distorted.
I know people like Enforcers but we have to make a choice. If you ever want close competitive games they have to go, or be greatly reduced in the number allowed into a game.

In Strike: Same again very unbalanced teams, but thanks to the spawn system I've been able to get back into the fight quick enough to PTO and kill despite my team being outgunned, so I've seen a few good games in this mode at least.

Teams still aren't being shuffled, we're just being sent to different half or completely empty servers which fill with the same imbalances as before and cycle begins again.

I know your trying, but so far it's still another fail.

UnknownGamer · October 13, 2018 12:42AM

Just so you know, got stuck on a Kamino only loop, had to leave to abort. Not much of an issue, just figured I would mention it.
Keep calm and code on!

KrewZi · October 13, 2018 12:59AM

Nothings changed. Still going from full server to new server needing players to start match in ga.

What exactly are you trying to achieve here with the eor matchmaking?
Is it to help players find matches?
Address balancing/stomping issues?

You'll notice a lot of the feedback is suggesting scramble teams which address balancing/stomping issues.
You should let us know what your achieve here with the eor matchmaking.

Also you should let us know what the matchmake button is for. Because the game searches for a new match regardless of whether you press the button or not.

By the way loving the no spawn timer weekend. Should be the norm imo.

YODA100 · October 13, 2018 1:02AM

It’s fast! Good.

New_Roosterman · October 13, 2018 1:28AM

So yet ANOTHER BLASTED TEST! Fairn dinkum do you guys like punishing us? This thing does not work. I don't care what changes you have made - it does not work. The results bear me out time after time, trial after trial, test after test (including this one)!!!!!

I just played star fighter assault and here are some screen shots of the results. End of first round, we stomped the opposition, this is how the scoreboard looked pre-matchmake -

So after the match make, and at the start of the next round this is what the scoreboard looks like -

We play the 2 rounds. We again stomp the opposition team. At the end of the second round, the scoreboard is as follows -

After the matchmaking this is what the scoreboard looked like -

So we play a 3rd round. Again the team I'm on stomps the opposition in the first round. We lose players so we cannot continue and then have to abandon the lobby as no one fills the gaps after 10 minutes of waiting.

I join a new lobby a friend was in on Fondor. His team had won the 1st round in a stomp. I form a group with him and two others. We stomp the opposition. So match making happens. End result, my team wind up in a lobby on our own, all 3 of us (1 guy had quit due to some tech issues with his PC).

So did this "matchmaking" result in even teams? No.

Did this "matchmaking" result in fast flowing games? Not really.

Did this "matchmaking" put you in empty lobbies? It did at least once.

Did this "matchmaking" keep the games going? No.

As I said this "trial" is yet another failure. Yet you people on the Dev team seem pig headed to make it work when all people really want is team scrambling after each map.

We, your user base, don't want to be shifted into new lobbies. We don't want our games broken up waiting for teams to fill due to half empty lobbies., We don't want to jump around so that we have no idea what the next map will be, especially if it means we play certain maps twice or more before we play other maps once.

Fact is WE DO NOT WANT THIS DAFT MATCHMAKING SYSTEM! It is not going to work, no matter what tweaks you make. You are trying to design a horse by committee. No wonder you keep coming up with a camel.

p.s.

I do not want to play anymore whilst this "test" happens. It seems DICE you just want to anger, annoy and harass your players as that is all you are doing with this dafter system. You are just embittering your player base and giving us reasons to ensure it dwindles even further for this game.

EightMile · October 13, 2018 1:45AM

DICE you really ruin this game every time you try to improve it. You fail. GA could not possibly be worse but some how you manage to even top that. Your matchmaking will always be a failure. Just stop. You have ruined gaming this entire weekend.

Salacious_Me_1138 · October 13, 2018 1:53AM

I don't mean to sound ill....but are the devs new to this whole thing?? I keep getting dumped into empty servers...or one other waiting with me. I'm better off "quitting" when the matchmaking starts and then I can be connected to a full game. So I'm having to do that over and over. I swear I think they're new to the whole idea of making a normal, balanced video game. Almost a year after release and they cant get it to behave like a normal game.

thelasteverjedi · October 13, 2018 2:54AM

NO GOOD getting sent to empty servers

thelasteverjedi · October 13, 2018 2:55AM

F8RGE wrote: »

Hey Everyone,

We wanted to give you a quick heads up with regards to some further tests, and tweaks, that we are going to be performing on the End of Round Matchmaking.

These tests will begin today, Friday 12th October at 12:00 UTC.

The test will continue through the weekend and will allow us to gather a lot more data on the matchmaking behaviour across all game modes.

As part of the tweaks we are making for this test, we are reducing the number of maps that are within the rotations.

This will ensure we get more data across all maps, and servers will be fuller. These changes to the map rotations will spread across multiple game modes, a breakdown of which you can find below.

Heroes vs Villains
Day One: Cloud City, Tatooine, Endor, Hoth, Death Star II

Day Two: Starkiller Base, Jakku, Takodana, Yavin 4

Day Three: Naboo, Kashyyyk, Kamino, Kessel, Jabba’s Palace

Galactic Assault
Day One: Kashyyyk, Naboo, Kamino, Tatooine

Day Two: Hoth, Endor, Yavin 4, Death Star II

Day Three: Crait, Jakku, Starkiller Base, Takodana

Starfighter Assault
Day One: Unknown Regions, Endor, Ryloth, Fondor

Day Two: D'qar, Kamino, Fondor, Ryloth

Day Three: Unknown Regions, Endor, Kamino, D'qar

Strike
Day One: Kamino, Naboo, Kashyyyk

Day Two: Endor, Hoth, Tatooine, Yavin 4

Day Three: Starkiller Base, Jakku, Takodana, Deathstar II

Blast
Day One: Kamino, Kashyyk, Naboo, Jabba’s Palace

Day Two: Deathstar II, Tatooine, Endor, Hoth, Cloud City

Day Three: Jakku, Takodana, Starkiller Base, Crait, Kessel

Hero Showdown
Day One: Endor, Jabba’s Palace, Deathstar II, Hoth

Day Two: Kashyyyk, Kamino, Naboo

Day Three: Jakku, Starkiller Base, Cloud City

We learned a lot from the recent test, and are already working on further backend improvements which we hope to deploy shortly.

As always, we really appreciate your feedback during these tests and thank you for your continued patience.

Strike and Blast
We will also be making some changes to both Strike and Blast. Both of these game modes will be operating on a one round basis, and not two.

no difference. getting sent to empty servers, and when not, the top 10 of one team were all in the same side. so effectively nothing happens other than you are wasting my time getting sent to empty servers.

Empire_TW · October 13, 2018 3:14AM

Turn it off and do not restrict maps.

Devlin21 · October 13, 2018 3:17AM

Haven't gotten empty lobbies yet. Just sent to new ones that are full.

YODA100 · October 13, 2018 3:31AM

Been on good teams. Thank you

rollind24 · October 13, 2018 3:52AM

I think you would be doing everyone a service if you let us know what variables you were looking at in the EOR matchmaking. We’re coming up on a year and we’re still beta testing matchmaking which I never particularly had a problem with beforehand.

Scout1998 · October 13, 2018 3:52AM

This ” EOR ” is trash, why do you have to change the matchmaking? It was just fine before.

SneakyXBasterd · October 13, 2018 3:56AM

Matchmaking should be a vote, not mandatory. I've had some great matchups ruined due to this.

SD0430 · October 13, 2018 4:25AM

So far today I have yet to play more than 1 round without being put into an empty lobby in Blast or GA. I live in a region with low player count. It already usually takes me 10+ minutes or so to even get into a match on a good day. Other days after 40 mins of trying I will typically just log off and try again tomorrow. Feel free to check the user logs to verify what I am saying.

This test this weekend has made it so I will not be playing at all. I already feel like I spend more time in lobbies and searching for matches than I do in game and this test has made it even worse for me as now I have to do so after EVERY SINGLE ROUND. I appreciate the effort and the work to make things better, unfortunately for me this is the worst experience I have had so far since launch.

I really want to support this title and this IP as it has had such an impact in my life. I still log into SFBF1 from time to time just to see if anyone is playing. But I am at my breaking point with this iteration of the franchise. In my 30+ years of playing games and 12 years working in the industry this has been one of the more disappointing titles but I still play because of the IP.

Please for the love of all us who live and breath Star Wars, fix this crap or shut it down.

Jimbeamjunior · October 13, 2018 4:33AM

Strike needs to be same map twice but different sides, some strike maps are way better as one faction instead of the other, only giving us one side then moving on sucks

avmav · October 13, 2018 6:05AM

Please don't use this matchmaking system, I was in a really well balanced lobby, both teams lost on phase 2, can't get more even, then was no to another match where one team steamrolled, why does it matchmake you out of a balanced lobby?
Just do a team shuffle end of matches, which is honestly what I thought would be the case and I'm baffled as to why it isn't.

cosworth99 · October 13, 2018 6:20AM

Killing it in Blast. Matchmaking comes up after the round. Bam. Empty lobby.

Quit. Find a round of Blast. Matchmaking comes up after the round. Bam. Empty lobby again.

Empty lobby = false

Surely this can be coded? Why dump me into an empty lobby all the time?

astrotrain101 · October 13, 2018 7:48AM

far out not again, same thing. My friends on BF2 has almost been reduced to zero. Surely these tests could be conducted through the week. Saturday night while there's an event on? come on

EV02AAA · October 13, 2018 8:21AM

Absolutely cobblers.

Had to play D'Qar six times in a row. First lobby was OK but matchmade to another with lag and which was more unbalanced. Matchmaking happened automatically after every other round. Of the five games after the first matchmaking the Rebels won on the first or second phase three times and the other two were steamroll wins for the Imps (though it's pretty impossible to win as Rebels on the final phase with instant respawns).

Why not just shuffle the darn teams like the last game? I can only presume that DICE are using us as guinea pigs for another game...

I'm off to do something else for the rest of the weekend.

Empire_TW · October 13, 2018 8:42AM

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GreenPB66 · October 13, 2018 8:42AM

F8RGE wrote: »

Hey Everyone,

We wanted to give you a quick heads up with regards to some further tests, and tweaks, that we are going to be performing on the End of Round Matchmaking.

These tests will begin today, Friday 12th October at 12:00 UTC.

The test will continue through the weekend and will allow us to gather a lot more data on the matchmaking behaviour across all game modes.

As part of the tweaks we are making for this test, we are reducing the number of maps that are within the rotations.

This will ensure we get more data across all maps, and servers will be fuller. These changes to the map rotations will spread across multiple game modes, a breakdown of which you can find below.

Heroes vs Villains
Day One: Cloud City, Tatooine, Endor, Hoth, Death Star II

Day Two: Starkiller Base, Jakku, Takodana, Yavin 4

Day Three: Naboo, Kashyyyk, Kamino, Kessel, Jabba’s Palace

Galactic Assault
Day One: Kashyyyk, Naboo, Kamino, Tatooine

Day Two: Hoth, Endor, Yavin 4, Death Star II

Day Three: Crait, Jakku, Starkiller Base, Takodana

Starfighter Assault
Day One: Unknown Regions, Endor, Ryloth, Fondor

Day Two: D'qar, Kamino, Fondor, Ryloth

Day Three: Unknown Regions, Endor, Kamino, D'qar

Strike
Day One: Kamino, Naboo, Kashyyyk

Day Two: Endor, Hoth, Tatooine, Yavin 4

Day Three: Starkiller Base, Jakku, Takodana, Deathstar II

Blast
Day One: Kamino, Kashyyk, Naboo, Jabba’s Palace

Day Two: Deathstar II, Tatooine, Endor, Hoth, Cloud City

Day Three: Jakku, Takodana, Starkiller Base, Crait, Kessel

Hero Showdown
Day One: Endor, Jabba’s Palace, Deathstar II, Hoth

Day Two: Kashyyyk, Kamino, Naboo

Day Three: Jakku, Starkiller Base, Cloud City

We learned a lot from the recent test, and are already working on further backend improvements which we hope to deploy shortly.

As always, we really appreciate your feedback during these tests and thank you for your continued patience.

Strike and Blast
We will also be making some changes to both Strike and Blast. Both of these game modes will be operating on a one round basis, and not two.

EA Must still be deaf nobody likes this match making [removed], Mickey can go shove this idea right back up his cheese loving [removed] along with Kathleen Kennedy and the rest of her yellow belly freak show.

greedo1980 · October 13, 2018 8:48AM

Whatever, man.

Still don't know what the point of it is

thelasteverjedi · October 13, 2018 9:49AM

can't get a continuous game. empty server

Salacious_Me_1138 · October 13, 2018 10:01AM

thelasteverjedi wrote: »

#$%^& can't get a continuous game. empty server

Just quit and rejoin another match.....only way to avoid the horrendous "matchmaking" experiment weekend.

chewielovesu · October 13, 2018 10:12AM

Rey has a weekend message to the Dev Team pursuing this EOR idea

astrotrain101 · October 13, 2018 10:17AM

and why are we getting booted to international servers?

IIPrest0nII · October 13, 2018 10:31AM

Hi all,

Please keep the discussion polite and constructive. Feel free to read the forum rules if you needed: https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/76222/star-wars-battlefront-forum-rules-guidelines#latest

Thank you for understanding!

Friendly reminder

thelasteverjedi · October 13, 2018 10:32AM

Salacious_Me_1138 wrote: »

thelasteverjedi wrote: »

#$%^& can't get a continuous game. empty server

Just quit and rejoin another match.....only way to avoid the horrendous "matchmaking" experiment weekend.

yes th'at s what i do but i join matches in progress so tha'ts not very satisfying

Rivershark56 · October 13, 2018 10:42AM

Played 3 rounds last night.

Rounds 1 & 2 were steamrolls, but round 3 was quite competitive. I believe this means it's sort of working as intended? Not really sure.

Here was the problem though. After me and my partner got auto-shuffled to another lobby, we were not paired into the same squad. He still showed a highlighted green icon over his trooper, so I know the game recognized him as my partner still, but I was in a squad with 3 randoms. I'm fairly certain that is not working as intended. Hope that helps!

@F8RGE

HKranger · October 13, 2018 10:48AM

When "Matchmaking " keeping to knock me out to empty server, I don't see any benefice on balancing the gaming experience.

Ravudha · October 13, 2018 11:06AM

"This will ensure we get more data across all maps, and servers will be fuller"

This has me quite worried. I hope this doesn't mean matchmaking aims to allow players to be thrown into lobbies that make them replay maps and not go through a reliable map rotation.

Draco_RSA · October 13, 2018 12:05PM

Please stop this EOR garbage, it's not working and you are killing GA for the second weekend in a row. Nobody likes playing the same 4 maps over and over and over, not to mention getting kicked out and having to join a different server that is usually empty. Just shuffle the teams!

Devlin21 · October 13, 2018 12:12PM

What is the matchmaking even doing?
All it's done for me is put me into a new lobby.

EightMile · October 13, 2018 1:26PM

nevermind....
I cant

MerovechI · October 13, 2018 2:09PM

This is an unmitigated disaster. At the EOM, every single time, I've been tossed into an empty or near empty server, often on the same map I just finished playing. What is the criteria for determining the server/lobby a player is placed in?

pawel01ivan · October 13, 2018 2:13PM

EoR in HvV should be turned off. This mode is about team play, but team changes every 2 rounds. Once you are have teamplayers, five minutes later you are stuck with noobs.

LeftTurnus · October 13, 2018 3:29PM

I played last night after giving the game a rest (PS4). Saw MM was turned back on.
GA I got put into the last phase of a Naboo match. Went to MM right away and ended up on Kashyyk. Played two rounds on Kashyyk on very balanced teams. So I guess because the teams were balanced we needed MM to kick in again? Yes, MM kicked in and took me to Kashyyk. And made sure the teams were not balanced. We were 3 players down until the last phase. So at the end of that game MM kicked in and I was being sent to ... Kashyyk ?

Sorry but being on the same map 4 times in a row is not my idea of fun. Turned the game off and went on to other things...

Knight_of_Onions · October 13, 2018 3:33PM

You know that feeling when you finally find a good team and you just want to play all night so the team sticks together?
Say goodbye to that feeling.
The fact that this is probably going to happen no matter how much we protest is a real bummer.

bfloo · October 13, 2018 3:33PM

Why does eor bring so much lag and so many ping issues to X1.

I haven't even lasted long enough in a lobby to see what happens with eor.

Tallround75 · October 13, 2018 3:47PM

You guys are ***** off more people than you’re helping with this bug, quit it.

UsernameTaken · October 13, 2018 3:48PM

Why is it still happening on Extraction?

avmav · October 13, 2018 4:02PM

MerovechI wrote: »

This is an unmitigated disaster. At the EOM, every single time, I've been tossed into an empty or near empty server, often on the same map I just finished playing. What is the criteria for determining the server/lobby a player is placed in?

Same here, worst thing is I was matchmaked out of a balanced game

Knight_of_Onions · October 13, 2018 4:03PM

bfloo wrote: »

Why does eor bring so much lag and so many ping issues to X1.

I haven't even lasted long enough in a lobby to see what happens with eor.

I'm on PC and get the same issues.
I believe it prioritizes your ideal ping site location, but with all the server shuffling it doesn't always put you in your ideal server.
I only get the slow internet connection warning when they test EOR MM. Which comes with the lag.

bfloo · October 13, 2018 4:18PM

Knight_of_Onions wrote: »

bfloo wrote: »

Why does eor bring so much lag and so many ping issues to X1.

I haven't even lasted long enough in a lobby to see what happens with eor.

I'm on PC and get the same issues.
I believe it prioritizes your ideal ping site location, but with all the server shuffling it doesn't always put you in your ideal server.
I only get the slow internet connection warning when they test EOR MM. Which comes with the lag.

The game was running fine for me after the x1 fix. Now its broken and unplayable again.

Ahdvd1 · October 13, 2018 4:20PM

Or how about instead of doing ANOTHER weekend whereby we get annoyed and stop playing (as well as some being left out because they aren,t free to play) how about this... ASK US?! I don,t mean actually ask us questions because lets face it, you'd get hundreds of weird suggestions, but why not create polls on here or even better, in the game! Ask us details such as preferred respawn timer (as if we want one, don't want one, wan5 5 seconds, 2 seconds, etc). That way you'll actually get an idea of what's 2nted rather than guessing it from statistics, because i'll tell you this - the statistics you're getting don't account for all those who got P'd off and left the game because of the spawn delay, or map rotations, or EOR matchmaking, or whatever else you're messing with!

Liz4rD · October 13, 2018 4:28PM

New_Roosterman wrote: »

So yet ANOTHER BLASTED TEST! Fairn dinkum do you guys like punishing us? This thing does not work. I don't care what changes you have made - it does not work. The results bear me out time after time, trial after trial, test after test (including this one)!!!!!

I just played star fighter assault and here are some screen shots of the results. End of first round, we stomped the opposition, this is how the scoreboard looked pre-matchmake -

So after the match make, and at the start of the next round this is what the scoreboard looks like -

We play the 2 rounds. We again stomp the opposition team. At the end of the second round, the scoreboard is as follows -

After the matchmaking this is what the scoreboard looked like -

So we play a 3rd round. Again the team I'm on stomps the opposition in the first round. We lose players so we cannot continue and then have to abandon the lobby as no one fills the gaps after 10 minutes of waiting.

I join a new lobby a friend was in on Fondor. His team had won the 1st round in a stomp. I form a group with him and two others. We stomp the opposition. So match making happens. End result, my team wind up in a lobby on our own, all 3 of us (1 guy had quit due to some tech issues with his PC).

So did this "matchmaking" result in even teams? No.

Did this "matchmaking" result in fast flowing games? Not really.

Did this "matchmaking" put you in empty lobbies? It did at least once.

Did this "matchmaking" keep the games going? No.

As I said this "trial" is yet another failure. Yet you people on the Dev team seem pig headed to make it work when all people really want is team scrambling after each map.

We, your user base, don't want to be shifted into new lobbies. We don't want our games broken up waiting for teams to fill due to half empty lobbies., We don't want to jump around so that we have no idea what the next map will be, especially if it means we play certain maps twice or more before we play other maps once.

Fact is WE DO NOT WANT THIS DAFT MATCHMAKING SYSTEM! It is not going to work, no matter what tweaks you make. You are trying to design a horse by committee. No wonder you keep coming up with a camel.

p.s.

I do not want to play anymore whilst this "test" happens. It seems DICE you just want to anger, annoy and harass your players as that is all you are doing with this dafter system. You are just embittering your player base and giving us reasons to ensure it dwindles even further for this game.

Erm... Im not quite sure that this matchmaking test is running on SA mode. I guess It isnt ¬¬'

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