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Apparently you didn't watch the video very closely... the cuts are all in sequence from the same games lol... in fact, the first game set of cuts is an 18 killstreak if you pay attention...
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That is EXACTLY the problem I am talking about and why the Heavy needs to be nerfed... the moment you select the Heavy in the menu, you will get lucky 100% of the time! This is fundamentally unfair to the other classes... thankfully there are people like you and I who see the truth!
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So I watched the video and notice that the majority of the fights were 1v1. From those 1v1, you either flanked or started shooting 1-2 sec before they did (some just ignored you). You also wait for health to regen before fighting again so its not like you are doing all of that on one cycle of health. The hero kills, you had another hero helping you, one scene shows luke and the other shows kylo so you aint really 1v1 a hero 100-0. The one hero you did 100-0 was near the falcon and that hero just completely ignored you. The times you 1v2/1v3 you flanked behind/above them and again they ignored you. You either got the enemies from the side or the back. The times you did fighthead on were in close combat corridors where the enemy went in 1 at a time. All the video shows is that you have map awareness and not that the class is op. You fought other heavies and still won so if it was op those heavies shouldve killed you not the other way around.
As to your points for it being op, here are my counter arguments:
1. The heavy has the highest health pool because it is the least mobile.
2. Killing hundreds of heroes with a team is different from solo killing hundreds of heroes in a 1v1 head on fight.
3. While it does have multiple roles, it cant do them all at once. You can be anti infantry and anti vehicles but you cant be both at the same time. Blasters excel at close to mid range fights and in tight spaces. This countered by having open spaces and long range fights.
4. All class health pools can heal to full with no effort needed.
5. Shield also reduces movement even further.
6. To kill an entire spawn would require the yellow bar card, lots of skill, and getting the yellow bar reload at the right time.. not easily done
7. Still have more officers than heavies....
Every class has something good but to keep it balanced it must also have counters. Everything you stated has a counter... except wall climbing lol.
That Rey is just disturbing.
no you just encountered slower players to react. its suppose to be a tank that is what a tank is....
An ape?
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That's what I was leaning towards. Thanks.
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I did really enjoy the first three minutes of the video though, well done.
It is rare I encounter someone as perspicacious as yourself... well done my new friend!
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
He does have the high ground.
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It's like this all the time here
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I am ROMG4 or is ROMG4 me? If I am ROMG4 who am I? If ROMG4 is me who is he what is he? If I am him who or what am I?
If this is conscious does that mean I know I am ROMG4 or not, is ROMG4 me? or Is it not
Gone forgotten, out of board and into the pan of ghost fire and diatrabe of sadness no one AVENGED ME how could this be. 2 years I exist I help, I talk, I contribute, I speak, no one helped me no aide, no one all alone in the dark of the night where dark things lurk in the more of subconscious thought and that which lurks bellow and beyond the veil of madness and the unknown
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If this is conscious does that mean I know I am ROMG4 or not, is ROMG4 me? or Is it not
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Thank the maker it doesn't, can you imagine how craycray the TL50 would be with that... you could LITERALLY insta-kill enemy heroes across the map!!!
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I have actual footage of when the mod worked, Bossk never stood a chance!
Absolutely unacceptable a free infantry character is better then a 6,000BP Hero!
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If this is conscious does that mean I know I am ROMG4 or not, is ROMG4 me? or Is it not
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So.. You bored us because we wants nerf the Wookiees that are truly monsters and then you post a thread like this? Looool 😂
I completely understand... it is a frightening concept that you MAY be forced to play a class that actually takes skill like the Officer after the Heavy exploits are fixed.
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You made my day today with this post lol. Especially this reply!
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For the few doubters who have voiced concerns about how OP the Heavy actually is, I have done a bit more research just to make sure you can get on board without any doubts... without further ado!
Exhibit 1: Below you can see that the Heavy is superior to 3 different heroes/villains AND the aerial!
Exhibit 2: The Heavy is absurdly imbalanced... he nearly DOUBLED 2nd place on his team and QUADRUPLED 1st place on the other team!!!
Exhibit 3: The Heavy AGAIN shows he is stronger than MULTIPLE HEROES (Finn and Maul in this case...)!
In conclusion, the Heavy is superior to 5 Heroes/Villains (Finn, Maul, Han, Luke, and Palpatine) and is also superior to the aerial! Not only that, but the Heavy is easily capable of QUADRUPELING the eliminations of the opposing teams best player. If you don't believe this type of rampant imbalance is worthy of a nerf, then good day to you sir, because you wouldn't know balance if it fell directly on your head!
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just nerf TL50/ epic shild. THE REST of heavy is rather normal
Saw that Youtube video Dash. Love it! 👍
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Thanks dude!
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Do I want a massive nerf to a class that admittedly doesn't really need it at the moment for a multitude of frivolous reasons? No. This sarcastic thread is just going to fester and rot further from this, when we could be having better discussions about tweaking and balancing elsewhere. Oh well, have a good one.
He knew.
on a side note I absolutely hate the TL-50 must be nice to be good with it cause I cant hit a darn thing when I use it lmao.
You made an EXCELLENT point in one of the other threads when you stated
You are 100% correct that if there was a SCS using Heavy on the battlefield you might as well have not even picked a hero for multiple months of this game as it was just insta death!!! However, you forgot the most important part... it wasn't just SCS that could murder any blaster hero instantly and slaughter sabers, it was the Heavy itself! This thread is a chance for you to stand in solidarity against INJUSTICE... with the mountains of evidence which have been presented, I know you will make the right decision!
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Oh but you made a better argument against nerfing when you said:
"my argument is that 'If I can overcome something and win with a simple change to my gameplay, it is not OP'"
"and who also buffed Palpatine at launch due to the tears of the mob even though he was already OP"
"Did you see me repeatedly calling for nerfs of Palpatine even when he was at his most powerful? No, you didn't, because I dealt with him just fine."
Oh wait, no, that doesn't make any sense...
I should have said Palpatine was already powerful at launch (rather than using the term "OP")... hence the reason I argued against buffing him at the time. If you are going to make a case for something being OP in this game, Palpatine post 1st round of buffs would be the closest thing... and nothing since then has come close to that level.
So I take it you are on board with the nerf Heavy movement considering your repeated support for this thread? We appreciate your support in keeping this thread at the top!
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Please dice nerf the battle points gain for the officers too.
I killed many heavys (with assault, officer, specialist) you have to aim for their heads and if the heavy has the schield up you can aim for their legs.
Palps got buffed before anyone figured him out.
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Correction, he got buffed before MOST people figured him out. He was the 2nd character I maxed out at launch, and I and a few others were dominating with him before his first round of buffs even hit. Here is some footage from that time I filmed specifically for a thread by the uninformed on these forums in which I was arguing (to no avail) that he was fine as he was.
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Maybe I generalized a lil too much. I remember an early video of him dominating HvV with no cards.
I was starting to figure him out, but he got that 1st buff right away.
Can't have a learning curve for anything in games anymore
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Right... that is the problem with buffing/nerfing based on the feedback of the masses... the masses in general do not maximize the potential of whatever it is they are utilizing, so if you buff/nerf based upon popular opinion it is very likely to adversely impact game balance exponentially at the extreme ends of the skill curve... we saw this with Palpatine on the high end of the skill curve (he became very difficult to beat in good hands) and the low end (after the roll nerf for example many players just fell over as they had no clue how to survive without it).
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We agree as far as that goes.
Devs coddling players with buffs and nerfs for players who refuse to change around their play style has been flattening skill curves in games for years now.
Just make sure you don't touch their meta!
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Buff Officer + Buff Wookiee + nerf Heavy + buff Palps = balance.