I shouldn't have came.

Empire_TW · October 20, 2018 7:02PM

Ok, now the first thing you are gonna notice is that I got the lag notification. The game prior to this I was in a good server, no lag or anything but staying in a server I like is forbidden now.

Keep lying about how it is improving the game on Twitter btw if the goal is to make people stop playing this game that is a good way to achieve it

But lag aside, HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?

Was it my fault for trying to kill the most balanced hero in the game?

Has the trap arming speed card been changed to "Kill a hero in one shot"?

Does Luke take 1000000x more damage while in the air?

Alex64 · October 20, 2018 7:12PM

Trying to play the game is like...

BoothStick · October 20, 2018 7:23PM

Honestly ... only rational "buggy" explanation I can think of... Bossk had mines down and the detonation didnt register visually and damage reg. The one shot finished you off.

That's not a defence , just the only thing that makes sense from what I saw. Something else caused your character to take damage all at once you didnt see it. Bossk's blaster fires too slow to register enough kill shots in one shot

Empire_TW · October 20, 2018 7:24PM

@Dash gave me some explanations.

Now he is most likely right (makes sense that this game is being held together by a piece of chicken wire) but here is a longer version of the video.

Some things I'd like to bring up:

I ran past his mines and took little damage.
The Bossk seemed to have been surprised that he killed me so fast
I don't think the relby can deal high damage at that range. (He also seemed to be hip firing)
My health did start to regen, I think even if my side was not showing him damaging me I don't think it would have started my health regen.

Empire_TW · October 20, 2018 7:32PM

BoothStick wrote: »

Honestly ... only rational "buggy" explanation I can think of... Bossk had mines down and the detonation didnt register visually and damage reg. The one shot finished you off.

That's not a defence , just the only thing that makes sense from what I saw. Something else caused your character to take damage all at once you didnt see it. Bossk's blaster fires too slow to register enough kill shots in one shot

I uploaded a longer version of the video, he did have mines down but i ran past them taking minimal damage.

BoothStick · October 20, 2018 7:38PM

@Empire_TW I Just watched it... and there it is. You hear the detonation... and as you said you took "Minimal Damage"... the mines would have taken way more than that slice of health off. You're health was way lower than your health bar indicated. It just all caught up to you when he hit you with that one shot.

It sucks I know... the netcode in this game is awful and feels like it's getting worse all the time. I have deaths now were it says "Defeated" but no one on the other end of the kill cam. Doesnt even show what killed me. I'm assuming its because the person that killed me is already in spawn screen

BoothStick · October 20, 2018 7:43PM

Here's one I have posted here before. I took all the SEC44C damage at one from a player at distance. Felt like a scatter gun and they were already dead. He or she was probably shooting at me for a long period of time... and it all registered on my end at once.

KresusFIN · October 20, 2018 8:20PM

One day, there will be an up-to-date, bug-free Battlefront game.

....Maybe when someone else takes over in 2023.

Dash · October 20, 2018 9:29PM

Empire_TW wrote: »

@Dash gave me some explanations.

Now he is most likely right (makes sense that this game is being held together by a piece of chicken wire) but here is a longer version of the video.

Some things I'd like to bring up:

I ran past his mines and took little damage.
The Bossk seemed to have been surprised that he killed me so fast
I don't think the relby can deal high damage at that range. (He also seemed to be hip firing)
My health did start to regen, I think even if my side was not showing him damaging me I don't think it would have started my health regen.

100% Positive it’s the netcode in that brief moment that gave us this video clip as a result. Rare especially for console, but it seems to be the culprit.

Will9113 · October 20, 2018 9:37PM

Samething happened to me tonight on PS4 when fighting bobba,my poor Luke got instakilled.

bfloo · October 20, 2018 11:04PM

Dash wrote: »

Empire_TW wrote: »

@Dash gave me some explanations.

Now he is most likely right (makes sense that this game is being held together by a piece of chicken wire) but here is a longer version of the video.

Some things I'd like to bring up:

I ran past his mines and took little damage.
The Bossk seemed to have been surprised that he killed me so fast
I don't think the relby can deal high damage at that range. (He also seemed to be hip firing)
My health did start to regen, I think even if my side was not showing him damaging me I don't think it would have started my health regen.

100% Positive it’s the netcode in that brief moment that gave us this video clip as a result. Rare especially for console, but it seems to be the culprit.

It isn't rare on console, it happens all the time with this game.

Dash · October 20, 2018 11:06PM

bfloo wrote: »

Dash wrote: »

Empire_TW wrote: »

@Dash gave me some explanations.

Now he is most likely right (makes sense that this game is being held together by a piece of chicken wire) but here is a longer version of the video.

Some things I'd like to bring up:

I ran past his mines and took little damage.
The Bossk seemed to have been surprised that he killed me so fast
I don't think the relby can deal high damage at that range. (He also seemed to be hip firing)
My health did start to regen, I think even if my side was not showing him damaging me I don't think it would have started my health regen.

100% Positive it’s the netcode in that brief moment that gave us this video clip as a result. Rare especially for console, but it seems to be the culprit.

It isn't rare on console, it happens all the time with this game.

Bad dodgy netcode, yes in frequency. Super bad 1 shot insta dead heroes, rare. I’ve only seen it once on PC. And never on console when with my little cousins.

If you see 1 shot heroes dead 24/7 on console, I’m sure we would have seen more post about it this past 11 months.

BoothStick · October 20, 2018 11:36PM

Dash wrote: »

bfloo wrote: »

Dash wrote: »

Empire_TW wrote: »

@Dash gave me some explanations.

Now he is most likely right (makes sense that this game is being held together by a piece of chicken wire) but here is a longer version of the video.

Some things I'd like to bring up:

I ran past his mines and took little damage.
The Bossk seemed to have been surprised that he killed me so fast
I don't think the relby can deal high damage at that range. (He also seemed to be hip firing)
My health did start to regen, I think even if my side was not showing him damaging me I don't think it would have started my health regen.

100% Positive it’s the netcode in that brief moment that gave us this video clip as a result. Rare especially for console, but it seems to be the culprit.

It isn't rare on console, it happens all the time with this game.

Bad dodgy netcode, yes in frequency. Super bad 1 shot insta dead heroes, rare. I’ve only seen it once on PC. And never on console when with my little cousins.

If you see 1 shot heroes dead 24/7 on console, I’m sure we would have seen more post about it this past 11 months.

It's very plausible on console @bfloo, but super rare. As @Dash said its definitely more prevalent on PC. For me on PS4 console I've experienced only 2 OHK's to a "Hero Unit" w/ full health like @Empire_TW had.

I was Boba Fett with elevation and an enemy Assault OHK'd me with A280. I had elevation, everything fine, and then *Thwap* dropped to the ground dead.

2nd Time I was a Flametrooper w/ Health Buff activated. Specialist w/ Infiltration OHK'd before I even had time to pull the trigger.

Luke w/ 700 Health and the length of time two damaging elements (Mines and 1...maybe 2 Bossk Blaster Shots) took to register all in one packet. That's some scary bad netcode. I'm hoping the netcode isnt degrading that badly.

bfloo · October 20, 2018 11:50PM

BoothStick wrote: »

Dash wrote: »

bfloo wrote: »

Dash wrote: »

Empire_TW wrote: »

@Dash gave me some explanations.

Now he is most likely right (makes sense that this game is being held together by a piece of chicken wire) but here is a longer version of the video.

Some things I'd like to bring up:

I ran past his mines and took little damage.
The Bossk seemed to have been surprised that he killed me so fast
I don't think the relby can deal high damage at that range. (He also seemed to be hip firing)
My health did start to regen, I think even if my side was not showing him damaging me I don't think it would have started my health regen.

100% Positive it’s the netcode in that brief moment that gave us this video clip as a result. Rare especially for console, but it seems to be the culprit.

It isn't rare on console, it happens all the time with this game.

Bad dodgy netcode, yes in frequency. Super bad 1 shot insta dead heroes, rare. I’ve only seen it once on PC. And never on console when with my little cousins.

If you see 1 shot heroes dead 24/7 on console, I’m sure we would have seen more post about it this past 11 months.

It's very plausible on console @bfloo, but super rare. As @Dash said its definitely more prevalent on PC. For me on PS4 console I've experienced only 2 OHK's to a "Hero Unit" w/ full health like @Empire_TW had.

I was Boba Fett with elevation and an enemy Assault OHK'd me with A280. I had elevation, everything fine, and then *Thwap* dropped to the ground dead.

2nd Time I was a Flametrooper w/ Health Buff activated. Specialist w/ Infiltration OHK'd before I even had time to pull the trigger.

Luke w/ 700 Health and the length of time two damaging elements (Mines and 1...maybe 2 Bossk Blaster Shots) took to register all in one packet. That's some scary bad netcode. I'm hoping the netcode isnt degrading that badly.

It happens to me a lot since the squad update, though mainly against Yoda, and only in GA. The sound is like he is driving a mack truck.

BoothStick · October 20, 2018 11:56PM

Wait you get OHK'd while you're using Yoda?

Or

You get OHK'd by Yoda?

univurshul · October 20, 2018 11:58PM

Alex64 wrote: »

Trying to play the game is like...

all in yer teckniq breh. Like, straws are outlawed in some states but not in others naw mean?

bfloo · October 20, 2018 11:58PM

BoothStick wrote: »

Wait you get OHK'd while you're using Yoda?

Or

You get OHK'd by Yoda?

I've gotten ohk'd by him, 4 times out of 5.

He just comes up *BOOM* no more Palps. Happened to me with Vader as well.

HvV it doesn't happen.

MyLittleGreenFriend · October 21, 2018 12:08AM

Empire_TW wrote: »

Ok, now the first thing you are gonna notice is that I got the lag notification. The game prior to this I was in a good server, no lag or anything but staying in a server I like is forbidden now.
Keep lying about how it is improving the game on Twitter btw if the goal is to make people stop playing this game that is a good way to achieve it

But lag aside, HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?

Was it my fault for trying to kill the most balanced hero in the game?

Has the trap arming speed card been changed to "Kill a hero in one shot"?

Does Luke take 1000000x more damage while in the air?

UNLIMITED BALANCE!!!

BoothStick · October 21, 2018 12:16AM

Aaahh... yeah @bfloo I've seen that on inverse. I was Yoda and melted a full Iden in Bubble Shield. Surprised me when I was chasing a Super BattleDroid. Took one swipe and she lost a 1/3 of her health. 2 or 3 swipes more and she was gone. Probably could of felt like Insta Death on their end.

I have a Theory there is an issue with Yoda's OPPOSING THE DARK SIDE Card. Feels like the bonus damage gets stacked more than once per hit. I've had times going toe to toe with Phasma &/or Vader that I'm getting more than "16 Bonus Damage"... feels like 50+ Damage per swipe sometimes... GA &HvsV

bfloo · October 21, 2018 12:22AM

BoothStick wrote: »

Aaahh... yeah @bfloo I've seen that on inverse. I was Yoda and melted a full Iden in Bubble Shield. Surprised me when I was chasing a Super BattleDroid. Took one swipe and she lost a 1/3 of her health. 2 or 3 swipes more and she was gone. Probably could of felt like Insta Death on their end.

I have a Theory there is an issue with Yoda's OPPOSING THE DARK SIDE Card. Feels like the bonus damage gets stacked more than once per hit. I've had times going toe to toe with Phasma &/or Vader that I'm getting more than "16 Bonus Damage"... feels like 50+ Damage per swipe sometimes... GA &HvsV

Could be that, the game was unplayable til the x1 fix, was good 2 days then they broke it again with eor and I haven't touched it since.

MyLittleGreenFriend · October 21, 2018 1:08AM

BoothStick wrote: »

Aaahh... yeah @bfloo I've seen that on inverse. I was Yoda and melted a full Iden in Bubble Shield. Surprised me when I was chasing a Super BattleDroid. Took one swipe and she lost a 1/3 of her health. 2 or 3 swipes more and she was gone. Probably could of felt like Insta Death on their end.

I have a Theory there is an issue with Yoda's OPPOSING THE DARK SIDE Card. Feels like the bonus damage gets stacked more than once per hit. I've had times going toe to toe with Phasma &/or Vader that I'm getting more than "16 Bonus Damage"... feels like 50+ Damage per swipe sometimes... GA &HvsV

I have noticed this. It has to do with Yoda's animation when he attacks a large character.

bfloo · October 21, 2018 1:40AM

MyLittleGreenFriend wrote: »

BoothStick wrote: »

Aaahh... yeah @bfloo I've seen that on inverse. I was Yoda and melted a full Iden in Bubble Shield. Surprised me when I was chasing a Super BattleDroid. Took one swipe and she lost a 1/3 of her health. 2 or 3 swipes more and she was gone. Probably could of felt like Insta Death on their end.

I have a Theory there is an issue with Yoda's OPPOSING THE DARK SIDE Card. Feels like the bonus damage gets stacked more than once per hit. I've had times going toe to toe with Phasma &/or Vader that I'm getting more than "16 Bonus Damage"... feels like 50+ Damage per swipe sometimes... GA &HvsV

I have noticed this. It has to do with Yoda's animation when he attacks a large character.

That's it, Palps is going to have to go on a diet!

Empire_TW · October 21, 2018 7:49AM

I really don't like that this game is held together by a piece of chicken wire and that I am forced to play on foreign servers.

SVEJ · October 21, 2018 8:37AM

The MM has gotten worse, the ping site issue fixed a bunch of stuff then they like do this EOR crap? like honestly DICE turn it off, it's not doing anything good to the game,

rollind24 · October 21, 2018 4:20PM

Am I the only one that was nervous what I’d find in this thread reading the title?

BoothStick · October 21, 2018 4:42PM

rollind24 wrote: »

Am I the only one that was nervous what I’d find in this thread reading the title?

Is it wierd that the title excited me to click on the thread?

Empire_TW · October 21, 2018 4:55PM

rollind24 wrote: »

Am I the only one that was nervous what I’d find in this thread reading the title?

That was a concern when I was posting this.

rollind24 · October 21, 2018 5:25PM

BoothStick wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Am I the only one that was nervous what I’d find in this thread reading the title?

Is it wierd that the title excited me to click on the thread?

I think it says a lot about us lol

Empire_TW · October 21, 2018 7:15PM

rollind24 wrote: »

BoothStick wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Am I the only one that was nervous what I’d find in this thread reading the title?

Is it wierd that the title excited me to click on the thread?

I think it says a lot about us lol

If only the game was working properly we would be actually playing instead of making assumptions like that.

MyLittleGreenFriend · October 22, 2018 2:02PM

Empire_TW wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

BoothStick wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Am I the only one that was nervous what I’d find in this thread reading the title?

Is it wierd that the title excited me to click on the thread?

I think it says a lot about us lol

If only the game was working properly we would be actually playing instead of making assumptions like that.

It was doing ok until matchmaking really.

Empire_TW · October 22, 2018 2:17PM

MyLittleGreenFriend wrote: »

Empire_TW wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

BoothStick wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Am I the only one that was nervous what I’d find in this thread reading the title?

Is it wierd that the title excited me to click on the thread?

I think it says a lot about us lol

If only the game was working properly we would be actually playing instead of making assumptions like that.

It was doing ok until matchmaking really.

If it isn't broke, break it I guess.

MyLittleGreenFriend · October 22, 2018 2:22PM

Empire_TW wrote: »

MyLittleGreenFriend wrote: »

Empire_TW wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

BoothStick wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Am I the only one that was nervous what I’d find in this thread reading the title?

Is it wierd that the title excited me to click on the thread?

I think it says a lot about us lol

If only the game was working properly we would be actually playing instead of making assumptions like that.

It was doing ok until matchmaking really.

If it isn't broke, break it I guess.

It still isn't over for this game though. I think if they remove matchmaking and Grievous is balanced and awesome from the start, this game could get back on track.

JMaster · October 22, 2018 2:51PM

You were talking about the laggy gameplay, nevermind...

Edited for content. - EA_Cian

Dash · October 22, 2018 3:04PM

JMaster wrote: »

You were talking about the laggy gameplay, nevermind...

Edited for content. - EA_Cian

I wanted to initially say this, but I had input to give!

Empire_TW · October 22, 2018 3:09PM

JMaster wrote: »

You were talking about the laggy gameplay, nevermind...

Edited for content. - EA_Cian

oh, wait, yeah it was a laggy server. I was forced onto a foreign server.

Edited for content. - EA_Cian

Rugbymaster1 · October 22, 2018 3:12PM

this happens on occasion but not enough to keep me from enjoying the game and at least you weren't the target.

Empire_TW · October 22, 2018 3:53PM

Rugbymaster1 wrote: »

this happens on occasion but not enough to keep me from enjoying the game and at least you weren't the target.

I really couldn't care less either, I'm more angry that I was forced onto a foreign server.

KresusFIN · October 22, 2018 4:09PM

Janina Gavankar really is a gorgeous woman....

Empire_TW · October 22, 2018 4:40PM

KresusFIN wrote: »

Janina Gavankar really is a gorgeous woman....

Yes she is

Admiral_Xen · October 22, 2018 6:40PM

Classic DICE/Frostbite netcode running on a coiled wire and potato.

BFV looks to be exactly same problem with zero feedback on incoming damage before it all being delivered in one packet if the Demo beta was anything to go by

very end

Omniscient · October 22, 2018 7:24PM

Dash wrote: »

JMaster wrote: »

You were talking about the laggy gameplay, nevermind...

Edited for content. - EA_Cian

I wanted to initially say this, but I had input to give!

I was expecting a bunch of...

“That’s what she said!”, Michael Scott posts.

Piscettios · October 22, 2018 10:14PM

.....

Empire_TW · October 22, 2018 11:35PM

Admiral_Xen wrote: »

Classic DICE/Frostbite netcode running on a coiled wire and potato.

BFV looks to be exactly same problem with zero feedback on incoming damage before it all being delivered in one packet if the Demo beta was anything to go by

very end

BFV ought to fail.

Empire_TW · October 22, 2018 11:35PM

Piscettios wrote: »

.....

RogueZeroRendar · October 23, 2018 3:16AM

@Empire_TW

That's very odd, but I have some ideas to bring into the discussion:

Your health regen starting may not mean anything, I'm unsure if health regen animation and display starts locally to then be corrected server side, I really don't know, but it's a possibility. If so it means health regen on screen may mean nothing.

Also, you said Bossk seemed surprised he killed you. But maybe his following actions were actually registered before that moment server side, but you only got it client side a lot later then your death state and animation.

Some actions may even have not reached your client side end.

With all of this I can believe 3 shots may have killed you. Bossk's zoomed headshot inflicts at most 296 HP, and it only depends on how charged it is, distance doesn't matter, while not headshot deals 156 HP. Bossk's hipfire shot deals at most 126HP (these values were inferred before Solo's Patch, they may be outdated, but I'm unaware to changes in Bossk's weapon damage since that time)

While I don't believe he could have time to hit you 3 times with fully charged zoomed shots, 1 of these, plus 2 normal shots, plus your health starting lower then full may explain this. It's still unbelievable through that footage, but it's a possibility.

If this was on PC I'd never blame lag, I'd certainly think it's a damage hack. Good to know lag may cause such strange situations.

Empire_TW · October 23, 2018 7:44AM

RogueZeroRendar wrote: »

@Empire_TW

That's very odd, but I have some ideas to bring into the discussion:

Your health regen starting may not mean anything, I'm unsure if health regen animation and display starts locally to then be corrected server side, I really don't know, but it's a possibility. If so it means health regen on screen may mean nothing.

Also, you said Bossk seemed surprised he killed you. But maybe his following actions were actually registered before that moment server side, but you only got it client side a lot later then your death state and animation.

Some actions may even have not reached your client side end.

With all of this I can believe 3 shots may have killed you. Bossk's zoomed headshot inflicts at most 296 HP, and it only depends on how charged it is, distance doesn't matter, while not headshot deals 156 HP. Bossk's hipfire shot deals at most 126HP (these values were inferred before Solo's Patch, they may be outdated, but I'm unaware to changes in Bossk's weapon damage since that time)

While I don't believe he could have time to hit you 3 times with fully charged zoomed shots, 1 of these, plus 2 normal shots, plus your health starting lower then full may explain this. It's still unbelievable through that footage, but it's a possibility.

If this was on PC I'd never blame lag, I'd certainly think it's a damage hack. Good to know lag may cause such strange situations.

idk, as far as the lag is concerned I'm sure If i wasn't playing on a foreign server (which again it made me join) this might not have happened.

OOM19 · October 23, 2018 9:33AM

Empire_TW wrote: »

Ok, now the first thing you are gonna notice is that I got the lag notification. The game prior to this I was in a good server, no lag or anything but staying in a server I like is forbidden now.
Keep lying about how it is improving the game on Twitter btw if the goal is to make people stop playing this game that is a good way to achieve it

But lag aside, HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?

Was it my fault for trying to kill the most balanced hero in the game?

Has the trap arming speed card been changed to "Kill a hero in one shot"?

Does Luke take 1000000x more damage while in the air?

Only through me shall you achieve a power greater then any Bossk player

EA_Cian · October 23, 2018 9:48AM

Let's please keep the not entirely family-friendly jokes off the forums, please.

I'll be editing some of the comments out in this thread relating to them but let's just leave those jokes for elsewhere.

Empire_TW · October 23, 2018 5:38PM

KrocketOnBoost wrote: »

Empire_TW wrote: »

@Dash gave me some explanations.

Now he is most likely right (makes sense that this game is being held together by a piece of chicken wire) but here is a longer version of the video.

Some things I'd like to bring up:

I ran past his mines and took little damage.
The Bossk seemed to have been surprised that he killed me so fast
I don't think the relby can deal high damage at that range. (He also seemed to be hip firing)
My health did start to regen, I think even if my side was not showing him damaging me I don't think it would have started my health regen.

"rare as heck on console" Lmao.. What planet does dash live on?

I'm aware of 2 times of this happening, the other time it happened it was to a friend who was playing as REY.

Empire_TW · October 24, 2018 12:12AM

Here is it happening to a friend

Jett_Fett_91166 · October 24, 2018 1:51AM

Empire_TW wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

BoothStick wrote: »

rollind24 wrote: »

Am I the only one that was nervous what I’d find in this thread reading the title?

Is it wierd that the title excited me to click on the thread?

I think it says a lot about us lol

If only the game was working properly we would be actually playing instead of making assumptions like that.

This game could be working flawlessly and I would still laugh at the title. Just my nature.

I shouldn't have came.

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