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After Clone Wars, New Characters: Thrawn and Aphra?

FYI, this is a request and idea topic, not a news. The question is, would people want Thrawn and Dr. Aphra to make it into the Heroes/Villains categories, and how do you think they should function?

IMO, Thrawn is an officer, he is THE Imperial officer, and should buff the heck out of everyone around him. While other characters do this, his buffs could be more unique, more like an actual officer, and be made to stand apart from other characters and their biff abilities. His personal weapon would be a blaster pistol, of course, probably a better version of something already available to officers (I was thinking a variant of the Blurrg-1120, as Thrawn was seen with one of these often in the Star Wars Rebels cartoon series).

Dr. Aphra, on the other hand, I know nothing about (please feel free to suggest a different character if you like). The reason I put her here was because if adding a character to one side, the other side needs one too to balance things out. However, I also chose her because this character has been gaining in popularity in the comics side of the Star Wars franchise, and all of the older fans would like to see lesser know characters make a comeback. While Aphra may not be the one fans want, she would definitely be a start in the right direction, and give us hope for other characters like this in future content. Also, as Iden Versio is a character from the campaign in SWBF2 and only that, I figure a comic-only character would be a nice touch too.

Where Thrawn is a straight officer and would be a master of inspiration, fear, and "buffs", I know Aphra is a scientist and archeologist who gets into shenanigans. That makes me think she'd make a better saboteur, full of tricks to irk the enemy....much like a Specialist. If she has technical skills in her knowledge repertoire, then perhaps she could grant a buff of some kind to her allies too. (If I am wrong about her background, please feel free to drop some info in the comments).

Alternatives to Aphra on the good guys side could be from many options. We've god Mon Mothma, an inspirational presence as the leader of the Rebellion. There's General Dodonna, military strategist (and wasn't he a specialist in special forces and wet-works?). Perhaps bring back Dash Rendar, another blaster hero with some unique tricks up his sleeve. Personally, IMO, I wish they'd add someone from Star Wars Rebels like Hera or Sabine. Hera could be another inspirational buff character (and we'd all love to see Chopper show up with her!), and Sabine could have a jetpack and FINALLY give the heroes someone as mobile as Boba Fett.

Thoughts?

P.S. - As usual, I want more positive comments. Anyone who wants to be a downer, please, please.....go the heck somewhere else, that stuff is annoying.

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  • Yes to thrawn no to the Dr. If thrawn is added then kanan needs to be his counterpart for obvious reasons or hera since they're rivals.
  • Dash
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    edited October 2018
    Thrawn would be a great Villain to add. He would be the Dark sides answer for Leia. +1
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  • Dash wrote: »
    Thrawn would be a great Villain to add. He would be the Dark sides answer for Leia. +1

    I thought the darkside answer was iden
  • Dash
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    edited October 2018
    Dash wrote: »
    Thrawn would be a great Villain to add. He would be the Dark sides answer for Leia. +1

    I thought the darkside answer was iden

    I think of heroes as Heroes that are Superior versions of base classes. Leia is an Officer on Roids, Iden is a Specialist on Roids etc. Thrawn would also be an Officer archetype.

    For example, if Dengar and Baze were ever added, they’d be Heavy archetypes.
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  • Dash wrote: »
    Dash wrote: »
    Thrawn would be a great Villain to add. He would be the Dark sides answer for Leia. +1

    I thought the darkside answer was iden

    I think of heroes as Heroes that are Superior versions of base classes. Leia is an Officer on Roids, Iden is a Specialist on Roids etc. Thrawn would also be an Officer archetype.

    For example, if Dengar and Baze were ever added, they’d be Heavy archetypes.

    Nah the officer type would be Finn since he has every battle command. I get what you mean tho
  • Dash
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    edited October 2018
    Dash wrote: »
    Dash wrote: »
    Thrawn would be a great Villain to add. He would be the Dark sides answer for Leia. +1

    I thought the darkside answer was iden

    I think of heroes as Heroes that are Superior versions of base classes. Leia is an Officer on Roids, Iden is a Specialist on Roids etc. Thrawn would also be an Officer archetype.

    For example, if Dengar and Baze were ever added, they’d be Heavy archetypes.

    Nah the officer type would be Finn since he has every battle command. I get what you mean tho

    Leia and Finn are Officer archetypes yes. Which is exactly why Thrawn would be fantastic for DS (Dark Side is lacking in the Officer archetype Villains wise). Who knows what buffs/abilities he could bring to the table for Dark side group synergy.
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  • Dash, agreed on everything you said about Thrawn and officers. What are your thoughts on Aphra? How should she function? Or, if replaced, who with, why, and how would that character function?

    For that matter, as a side question, what trooper class do the Heroes/Villains function as?
  • Dash
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    edited October 2018
    Heroes & Villains are a mix of Assault/Officer/Specialist/Heavy.

    The abilities showcase what their mixes of. Han is an Officer/Heavy Hybrid for example. Pistol, High Dps, and a Det charge. Once you see the heroes weapons and abilities it becomes much easier to see what archetype/s they are stemmed from.

    Aphra might be too complicated for those who do not know of Aphra.
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  • But who could replace her then?
  • Don’t know if Aphra is known enough to get a shot, but I’d love to see the entire ghost crew!

    Hera - Thrawn
    Kanan - Grand Inquisitor
    Ezra - Seventh Sister (or any of em)
    Zeb - Rukh
    Sabine - Gar Saxon or of too obscure maybe a bounty hunter that doesn’t fit with anyone else?
    Chopper - not sure about him...
    Top favorite heroes and villains missing:
    Ahsoka, Rex, Padme, Cody, Mace
    Bane, Thrawn, Ventress, Jango, Savage
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  • Don’t know if Aphra is known enough to get a shot, but I’d love to see the entire ghost crew!

    Hera - Thrawn
    Kanan - Grand Inquisitor
    Ezra - Seventh Sister (or any of em)
    Zeb - Rukh
    Sabine - Gar Saxon or of too obscure maybe a bounty hunter that doesn’t fit with anyone else?
    Chopper - not sure about him...

    This!!!! Except chopper can't be serious
  • But who could replace her then?

    Hera
  • Dash
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    But who could replace her then?

    Hera

    Or Padme.
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  • Padme would be cool, if she can stand out from Leia. However, I am very partial to the Star Wars Rebels' Ghost crew. The problem with them is, we can't just get one, ya know? Thrawn would actually be a great addition to go along with the Ghost crew, but there'd need to be some more villains. GOOD villains, too.
  • Thrawn would be great, though I think Raddus or Akbar would be a good counterpart to him.
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  • +1 Thrawn

    Other DS mentions: Grand Moff Tarkin or Kallus
    Or I guess you could make Kallus LS

    Padme would be cool. Seen requests for her. Or Steela Gerrera also came to mind.


    I’m sorry but if Chopper were in game, I would be spamming his emote all match. That thing is hilarious.

    Emote 1: “Meh meh, meh meh”
    Emote 2: “Aaaaoooohhhhgggaaa!”
    Emote 3: (his tongue sticking out noice)
    Emote 4: (Chopper chuckle)
  • What do you mean by ''after Clone Wars''? From March after Dooku and Kenobi release? Well... There is many more PT characters who should come after this announced roster.
    I will be angry as many other fans if EA dont give as Jango Fett and Mace Windu.
  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    Thrawn would be great, though I think Raddus or Akbar would be a good counterpart to him.

    Ackbar, all the way, and his famous emote should come automatically......"IT'S A TRAP!".
  • +1 Thrawn

    Other DS mentions: Grand Moff Tarkin or Kallus
    Or I guess you could make Kallus LS

    Padme would be cool. Seen requests for her. Or Steela Gerrera also came to mind.


    I’m sorry but if Chopper were in game, I would be spamming his emote all match. That thing is hilarious.

    Emote 1: “Meh meh, meh meh”
    Emote 2: “Aaaaoooohhhhgggaaa!”
    Emote 3: (his tongue sticking out noice)
    Emote 4: (Chopper chuckle)

    We need this. WE NEED THIS NOW!!!!!!
  • DeepFriedPorg
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    edited October 2018
    GreenArrow wrote: »
    What do you mean by ''after Clone Wars''? From March after Dooku and Kenobi release? Well... There is many more PT characters who should come after this announced roster.
    I will be angry as many other fans if EA dont give as Jango Fett and Mace Windu.

    (1) This was never meant to state what actually coming after the Clone Wars content. As a matter of fact, I stated that very, very clearly in the first sentence of the first post. Maybe you should have paid attention.

    (2) Your comment, your desire, for Jango Fett and Mace Windu.........that's your opinion, that's what you want, just as the entire point of this thread was based on my personal desired characters.. You're free to have your opinion, but maybe you could have it somewhere else, or start your own thread, instead of trying to highjack mine for your own purposes.

    (3) If "you" and other fans get angry over not getting what you want from a game, and you wave that around like some kind of threat, well, I got news for ya......no one cares about your hurt feelings. Grow up. Deal with it.
  • DarthJ
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    Why no love for Aphra from anyone? She can be the DS version of Lando. Her first appearances in the comics were great, her own series is a bit meh but generally a cool character. Could have abilities revolving around:

    - OOO, although it would be hard to fit in an ability round him. Being a protocol droid who specializes in torture, what could you do? Some form of shock or gas that he has given Aphra that can temporarily stun or blind the opponents?
    - BT1 could be similar to BF15 and Krennic's droid - BT could come in and has great offensive capabilities (he has various weaponry concealed in him, including rockets). Could have a short timespan but a long cooldown.
    - Something relating to her tech whiz skills, such as her hacking. Maybe a disruptor in some form.

    Doubt it would happen anyway, but she would be cool to see.
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  • Thrawn and the Dr. would be perfect! Jyn and Kasian as counterparts.
  • DarthJ wrote: »
    Why no love for Aphra from anyone? She can be the DS version of Lando. Her first appearances in the comics were great, her own series is a bit meh but generally a cool character. Could have abilities revolving around:

    - OOO, although it would be hard to fit in an ability round him. Being a protocol droid who specializes in torture, what could you do? Some form of shock or gas that he has given Aphra that can temporarily stun or blind the opponents?
    - BT1 could be similar to BF15 and Krennic's droid - BT could come in and has great offensive capabilities (he has various weaponry concealed in him, including rockets). Could have a short timespan but a long cooldown.
    - Something relating to her tech whiz skills, such as her hacking. Maybe a disruptor in some form.

    Doubt it would happen anyway, but she would be cool to see.

    I was thinking Aphra would be on the Heroes side. However, she did start working for Vader, and now, wouldn't she be more neutral?
  • CeymalRen wrote: »
    Thrawn and the Dr. would be perfect! Jyn and Kasian as counterparts.

    Oh dang, I didn't think about Rogue One! Actually, YEAH, that would work! But wouldn't Jyn and Kasian both be variants of the Specialist? At least with Thrawn and Aphra, they'd be Officer and Specialist, respectively. Kasian, definitely specialist, he even has the sniper A280 a his main weapon! Jyn, though.......maybe Officer? She kinda winds up inspiring a bunch of people for the Battle of Scarif in the end....
  • DCDT
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    DarthJ wrote: »
    Why no love for Aphra from anyone? She can be the DS version of Lando. Her first appearances in the comics were great, her own series is a bit meh but generally a cool character. Could have abilities revolving around:

    - OOO, although it would be hard to fit in an ability round him. Being a protocol droid who specializes in torture, what could you do? Some form of shock or gas that he has given Aphra that can temporarily stun or blind the opponents?
    - BT1 could be similar to BF15 and Krennic's droid - BT could come in and has great offensive capabilities (he has various weaponry concealed in him, including rockets). Could have a short timespan but a long cooldown.
    - Something relating to her tech whiz skills, such as her hacking. Maybe a disruptor in some form.

    Doubt it would happen anyway, but she would be cool to see.

    BT-1 should be a DS hero on its own. Aphra is more neutral and that could make her inclusion interesting, but difficult.
  • DarthJ
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    DarthJ wrote: »
    Why no love for Aphra from anyone? She can be the DS version of Lando. Her first appearances in the comics were great, her own series is a bit meh but generally a cool character. Could have abilities revolving around:

    - OOO, although it would be hard to fit in an ability round him. Being a protocol droid who specializes in torture, what could you do? Some form of shock or gas that he has given Aphra that can temporarily stun or blind the opponents?
    - BT1 could be similar to BF15 and Krennic's droid - BT could come in and has great offensive capabilities (he has various weaponry concealed in him, including rockets). Could have a short timespan but a long cooldown.
    - Something relating to her tech whiz skills, such as her hacking. Maybe a disruptor in some form.

    Doubt it would happen anyway, but she would be cool to see.

    I was thinking Aphra would be on the Heroes side. However, she did start working for Vader, and now, wouldn't she be more neutral?

    I would still set her as a villain as at best she is neutral, but works for general villains. When meeting Leia and Luke she played them most of the time.
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  • DarthJ
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    DCDT wrote: »
    DarthJ wrote: »
    Why no love for Aphra from anyone? She can be the DS version of Lando. Her first appearances in the comics were great, her own series is a bit meh but generally a cool character. Could have abilities revolving around:

    - OOO, although it would be hard to fit in an ability round him. Being a protocol droid who specializes in torture, what could you do? Some form of shock or gas that he has given Aphra that can temporarily stun or blind the opponents?
    - BT1 could be similar to BF15 and Krennic's droid - BT could come in and has great offensive capabilities (he has various weaponry concealed in him, including rockets). Could have a short timespan but a long cooldown.
    - Something relating to her tech whiz skills, such as her hacking. Maybe a disruptor in some form.

    Doubt it would happen anyway, but she would be cool to see.

    BT-1 should be a DS hero on its own. Aphra is more neutral and that could make her inclusion interesting, but difficult.

    BT as a DS hero with R2 as a LS hero!
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  • I don't want any more PT-Characters or any guys from Rebels etc.

    What about Nien Nunb? He was great in BF1. Any droids won't make sense to me on the battlefield. Except IG-88 who would be great. a bounty hunter update would be nice.

    IG-88 and Dash Rendar
    Greedo and Nien Nunb
    4-Lom and Wedge Antilles
    Zuckuss and Lobot

    Thrawn would be nice, yes. A shame Talon Karrde is non-canon :(
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  • More bounty hunters in general would be cool, BUT, I just had a new idea.....

    .....NEUTRALS, a new category in HEROES VS VILLAINS!?!?!? Think about it. Don't know where a character fits in HvV? Stick them in Neutrals! Bounty hunters who work for whichever side pays them more? Stick them in Neutrals!

    Where certain characters would be strictly Hero or Villain, Neutrals would be available to select by both sides before the match begins. And just like any other character on your side, "first come, first serve".

    There are already complaints about the balancing of characters and sides in HvV, but personally I think it's less about that, and more about the team play and personal skills. As for team tactics and dynamics, having such a Neutral option as this, with characters with their own unique traits and abilities, would allow more flow and flexibility to those dynamics, allow more possibilities, options, versatility, and variety.

    I would almost say Boba Fett could/should fit in there as a bounty hunter, but I do like the idea of Heroes and Villains having even numbers of characters and staying balanced. That's why I am glad we're getting two per side with these updates coming out, (Oct 2018 - Feb 2019). Neutrals, on the other hand, could have any number of characters, and it wouldn't matter if they were an uneven number.
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