Focused Feedback: General Grievous
With General Grievous releasing today I'm expecting a lot of threads and discussion to pop up with thoughts, feedback and ideas.
In an attempt to keep things orderly please use this thread for all your Grievous feedback. What do you like about him, what don't you like?
One thing to note. First impressions are great and you're welcome to share these, but please refrain from posting "buff Grievous" because you were defeated quickly. It's going to take time to get used to any new hero, and Grievous is no different.
In an attempt to keep things orderly please use this thread for all your Grievous feedback. What do you like about him, what don't you like?
One thing to note. First impressions are great and you're welcome to share these, but please refrain from posting "buff Grievous" because you were defeated quickly. It's going to take time to get used to any new hero, and Grievous is no different.
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As always thanks for the communication Ben.
Have fun everyone!!!
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"When you ask for trouble, you should not be surprised when it finds you". - Plo Koon
Why can he block blaster fire outside of Unrelenting Advance.
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Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
He can in the show.
@F8RGE very happy that you put this and that you all understand this - as usually get worried when a new hero appears and those getting beat by him think he is OP, or as you say the opposite and thinking he is underpowered. Good to see that you are all thinking ahead of the feedback, genuinely.
No, he can't.
Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
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No he can't
He actually can, and I'm not going to knock them for adding it in, it would've been incredibly unbalanced for HvV had he not. A saber Hero that can't block sabers.... broken.
No he can't bro at all
Sabers are fine. Blasterfire is not.
Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
Actually he can bro, in the clone wars cartoon he reflects and kills a clone even, and more than once so its not a fluke. Sorry to burst your bubble. We're not having more broken Heroes from here on. Well done Dice for taking a stand.
As I wrote before he should be able to move back with unrelenting advance and he should also trigger dmg more often because it's easy to go behind him. This ability should also give grievous stun imunnity because I was wrecked by lando or chewie everytime I tried to protect my teammates with this ability.
Claw rush is ok but it can sometimes stop on some walls and not deactivate and I died at least once because of it.
Thrust surge... I dont know why but I didnt saw that this ability dealt any dmg to opponents. And it's rush animation is bugged because I was trying to attack luke with this skill and grievous went through wall and as I mentioned before this ability dealt no dmg
Also I think he's loosing stamina too fast while attacks.
As for now grievous looks stunning and he has really cool animations (great work dice) but he needs more polishing.
great!
looking forward to developments.... squqd system is good..... 20 minutes more for finishing downloadi!
You do realize it's unrelenting advance not unrelenting backtrack right advance means forward not how that works and it's made for a hallway not in the middle of a room or in the open
In my opinion, he shouldn't be able to block shots, if Maul also isn't able to block shots.
This just doesn't make any sense to me, since Maul actually is force sensitive.
Also, I've seen some clips of multiplayer, when he uses Unrelenting Advance, he does not block blasters bolts.. But in single player he does. Bug or intentional?
Maul is fine. If maul wasn't abused by runners already can you imagine he with a block? God that would stink.
Yeah, then he'd actually fight back instead of hightailing it. lol, give me a break. You got Han, chewbacca, and Lando. If you can't get maul between those 3 then it wouldn't matter if he had a block or not. He and yoda are at major disadvantage when fighting other saber villains, and its only going to get worse as more release. It's not fine. With grevious having one theres no good excuse now.
I think claw rush needs a bit of tweaking regarding control during the rush and maybe faster disengage animation from the ability.
Other than that I find him a fine addition to our hero collection
Can we buff General Grievous? Just kidding. He looks amazing, but can Obi-Wan have a blaster ability, and whenever Grievous is killed by that ability, he blows up?
https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/123058/officer-nerf-and-buff/p1?new=1
Commander class
https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/comment/1235735#Comment_1235735
El-16HFE rof buff
Engineer class
OOM-9
Dual pistols
Commando class, ARC, commando droid, Inferno Squad, Insurgent, Shock Trooper(FO), assassin(Resistance).
Umbara
Utapau
Heavy/Light vehicle classes
Dwarf spider droid
Homing Spider Droid
Snail Tank
Saber tank
RO Jedha tank
Actual bombs coming out of the bomber.
RO season
The cursor for hero selection in HVV doesn't highlight which character when scrolling making it difficult to see which hero you're on. Don't know about other modes yet.
Love the 5 emotes for him, difficult to choose only 2. Will we ever be able to change emotes on the fly like appearances? His model looks great, can he get flames coming out of him when he dies like in ep3?
Looking forward to playing him more.
Edit- Now getting error 1066 and can't get into any games and when do it is empty and doesn't fill as of 8:35am EST
1. Unrelenting advance doesn’t always block
2. Claw rush doesn’t seem to knock bots over most of the time.
3. Claw rush against heavies with shield does nothing at all!
This was pc team battle custom arcade on Kamino.
Thanks
That’s how I tested him
In terms of skins:
Other than that he's amazing
First, his thrust surge. This move is basically a self stun even worse than Lukes dash attack, has about a 50% shot of actually landing, even if the targets standing completely still. Plus it's plagued by a permanent stun bug if the trooper your targeting runs towards you, resulting in Grievous running in a circle with his 4 sabers extended and eventually into the nearest wall until HP reaches zero. Never use when your around more than one opponent. Ever.
Unrelenting advance Needs to do one-shot damage with the card maxed out or increase the rate of the damage ticks, calling it now. In it's current state the damage doesn't trigger often enough meaning you can easily be circled or evaded by grunts. I'm going on a limb and assuming you can be meleed outta the animation by players as well... which makes the case even more for Hit-stun immunity while it's active. The Block cone should be a little more generous too, or you will be flanked and gunned down by even the Arcade Bots. You also need to be able to back up with it active, it's incredibly awkward with just a single-joystick response, at least on console. I'll classify this as a self stun/snare, but it has the best recovery time of all the abilities when manually cancelled.
Claw rush is by Far his best ability and should always be run with the 90% dmg reduction card. One thing I noticed though in Arcade is that the troopers hit by claw rush weren't actually knocked down, like with rey. I don't know if this translates directly into multiplayer, or if this is just a bot thing, but theres noticeable delay or what I call a self-stun when exiting the animation . If used offensively to rush targets, then you'll just end up taking massive damage as you exit the ability to attack.
More impressions to come as I play him in GA. First inclination is to say He needs a buff big time.
I have noticed those things too. Also
1. Line up, Weaklings - Does not seems to work. Tested it several times and only the first enemy got hit. The others did not take any damage and even blocked my way ( not being knocked down)
This is mostly an INCREDIBLE update but there are a lot of things that need changing as soon as possible. Firstly, Grevious' unrelenting advanced doesn't block blasters. Also on PS4 I'm struggling to find nay matches other than GA which is really annoying. Finally, some art for hero starfighter star cards have a glitched image which in really ugly!
Thanks a lot.
1. He gets stuck in a slow motion swing animation for no reason when fighting bots.
2. He will thrust straight through bots doing no damage sometimes, especially when they're close. It also won't activate all the time.
3. Claw rush doesn't seem to be working as intended. It doesn't seem to effect any troopers when you hit them with it.
4. Unrelenting Advance doesn't block properly and doesn't damage troopers consistently which leads to bots somehow getting around you and shooting you from behind.
1. Thrust surge occasionally does no damage
2. Unrelenting advance does not always block blaster fire
3. Unrelenting advance should do damage more often, as it very often doesn’t kill people meaning they end up behind him where he’s vulnerable
4. Claw rush does not always knock enemies over
5. Claw rushing into a wall sometimes does not cause the animation to finish, resulting in an easy kill for opponents
6. A slight general stamina buff would be good, especially since the Sith Trained star card causes attacks to drain 40% more stamina
To Grievous. I find his outlook and animations very authentic, just as all epic characters. After playing him for serveral time now, I made a lot of points but got killed a lot too. I hope he will not be that overpowered character that Lando, Han and Chewie are at the moment. Especially Lando's one stun kills and the lack of blocking Chewbacca's Bowcaster fire.
In my opinion you could only give an evaluation in several days after playing with him.
I have to add some thing. As I suspected, there are some players who are begging for getting Grievous. To be honest, I want to level Grievous up and if I cannot play him, I switch the servers until I can play him. Maybe there should more ways to level Grievous up. Perhaps playing Arcade with him? If I would have been asked, I would have give him no limitations, i.e. let Grievous be at level 40 from the beginning. Another possible scenario could be, give Grievous 12 points. You could share this 12 points on every star card you want to and that up to epic level. With this you would have had 3 specific star cards on epic level. Maybe this could ease the situation a little bit. But that's only my impressions.
Thx and greetings
Also, he gets absolutely melted by Lando and Chewie's stun combos much like everyone else unfortunately.
And I think the Unrelenting assaults lightsabers should spin a little faster
“Pessimism never won any battle.”
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
“Heroes may not be braver than anyone else. They’re just braver five minutes longer.”
-Ronald Reagan
2) The saber spins are a little too slow to make sense ever using it unless you are one and one and makes Grevious very vulnerable, the space is too far out for the additonal 2 lightsabers to do any sort of damage to any unit.
To fix: Make him advance a little further speed wise upon activating it, make his additional sabers do its spinning close to Grevious' body so its accurate and doesn't swing at air because there's no unit large enough for him to damage anyone even if the intent is AoE at unusual angles
He is very strong against heroes, I 3 swinged Han solo and cut down Luke that wasnt blocking like butter, even drains stamina quick which is good. The spider rush ability is very good but can get too hard to deactive upon use unless its a lag issue