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So ? They have stun which can kill you because you can't do anything while your immobilized... Leia has a very powerful weapon as Han Solo (also I really hope the DL-44 will NEVER come back for troopers).
HERESY!!!
"It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
I just wanted to check the balance sheet and I don't care bc I'm a huge fan of Greivous (just don't like the OP of Palp in the mix)
R: The Team has done fabulous with the mechanics - but there are some major hitbox issues (which I'm not sure I want to see fixed bc the dude is deadly). I see complaints that don't make any sense - the General is a droid with Jedi reflexes (you nailed it DICE). Might need to bump Skywalker to keep balance in the game.
No. It's just pretty unbalanced when there is this gun. The heresy is to give it to a random trooper. It's a legendary weapon ONLY HAN SOLO should have.
Even if they don't stun him, his strike speed is very slow and easy for them to spam roll until his stamina is depleted.
But seriously, please do reduce the stun time on Grievous. He gets shocked for about 3 full seconds so it's instant death for him.
However he needs a serious HvV buff...
Cant tell if its this “tactician” playstyle that he has or if its fully still a work in progress but on HvV his health is insanely weak against one or even multiple targets. I could go many games and have an overall of 4 kills with Grevious whereas i could play Boba Fett and get up to 10-20 eliminations in one game of HvV.
In general he dies very quick, this isnt just a “takes a while to get used to him” moment. He straight up gets bullied by all heroes. Any time he is shocked by Lando or Chewbaccas shock grenades, his heath gets instantly melted whilst in shock.
Being force pushed was a funny thing to happen, now whenever Grevious get force pushed he has litterally 0.5 seconds to react and get up off the floor before he gets slashed to pieces by a lightsaber hero.
The Grievious i know is able to take on multiple Troopers AND Jedi with ease. But this Grevious in the game feels like if you threw a rock at him, he would get flattened...
If its the playstyle then it needs a HvV only change.
Its a place for unlimited fun using our favourite Heroes or Villains and i feel that having to think about a playstyle especially for Grevious, it kind of ruins the whole idea of legendary characters having an all out brawl. They should be all even in this playing space regardless of their stance/persona during the series’ or films.
I get the idea behind it to distinguish one character from another (otherwise it just the same character but reskinned) but id rather play the game how i want, not but how the character was designed to play.
If i want to play the agression i shouldnt have to be restricted because the playstyle doesnt fit the character. Thats not what games are for.
If its a bug or work in progress that may get changed in the future, then i hope he can compete in a fight with the same advantages and disadvantages as other Heroes and Villains. The more balance the more fun, the less restrictions to playstyle the more epic the fights can be.
Thats just my viewpoints, im sure that in the end regardless of the buffs and nerfs that may come, that he’ll be fine
The stun shouldn't immobilized anybody. In my opinion, it should just slow you down and prevent you to dodge.
Fix his left and middle abilities so they actually hit and damage, then he's fine just the way he is.
I also think that you should be able to turn swiftly at the end of claw rush. You end up facing a wall and having to get instantly killed while in two second animation.
Han Solo had a modified DL-44. It would be a beter gun than the S-5, that's for sure.
"It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
If the gun is less powerful and WAY MUCH MORE balanced than in the first Battlefront... Then maybe why not... But I still think it would totally break the importance of Han Solo.
Eh, while it was definitely a better gun than a good portion, it wasn't OP later on. It probalby was Han's DL-44 at launch and they didn't remember to make a seperate model, but it was balanced later on. And while I get that it may lessen its importance, we still have plenty of guns the rest of the iconic/more memorable cast use as their primary weapon. But I respect your opinion.
"It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
When GG does his claw rush, it continues to knock the same player back and deal damage 1-3 additional times after he's well past the player.
Also, is it intended for him to deal almost 500 damage in two strikes to the front? 3 times in separate matches I was Han and his thrust surge took me down from 650 to 490, then two strikes and I'm dead. If that's intended it needs nerfed. I don't know the numbers again other players but feel I can do the same thing as well.
Bossk is the poster child for DICE, i.e., they basically forged that character off a 3 sec pan in V...GG is George Lucas' go-to baddie for CW/Prequels.. he had def ups in "III: 'Sith"
3 i was able to play as grievous once today! ONE TIME! A SINGLE GAME! and every damn time the stuns wrecked me. once stunned grievous turns into a giant target unmissable because of his size!! its dumb
4 im really just sick of this crap game. ive never hated a star wars game before and this is it.
5 blah blah blah never buying another ea dice game ever they suck, this sucks, their marketing team is dumb as hell.
6 you dont deserve the rights to star wars give them up
Revisiting my original feedback - having levelled him to 17 and got a few blue cards I would retract the swing speed change I mentioned. He is fine as is, his power more than makes up for the slower speed.
His stamina is still poor but i can see why with his power.
The stun on him when hit with a force ability can be annoying.
Love his damage he can inflict when attacking behind an opponent. He destroys anyone in HvV that way. Just have to think tactically with him and not try to charge blaster heroes from the front.
Oh I agree, Lando's and Chewbacca's stun abilities are horribly overpowered in HvV against any villain. But I've noticed that Grievous gets stunned for longer than any other villain. Last night I was using Grievous and standing next to Vader and we both got shocked by Chewie at the same time. Vader recovered from the stun at least a full second quicker than I did.
There seems to be an additional animation where Grievous staggers at the end of the stun which leaves him immobilized for an extra second.
Either way, if it was up to me there would be no stun abilities in HvV. All are terribly overpowered and the characters who have stun abilities have a huge advantage over those who do not. When Lando is down to 25hp, he should not be able to thrown down a disabler and shock you for a guaranteed kill.
I do with the right bumper ability worked. I also wish it was faster. Using it is only viable when you're behind someone. Otherwise you're going to lose a ton of health.
The crawl ability is perfect as is.
I'm afraid to use the middle ability. Anytime I see someone use it they get melted.
No just add it in. We could always use my emotes and I personally enjoy cough
I only ever use it when a trooper is trapped and cant escape it, or if someone is low on health. Otherwise its basically a free kill for the opponent!
Was thinking on this ability - obviously controls need tweaked but it either needs to be higher damage, or the 2 arms not in use can be used to hit still, resulting in higher damage?
But I will abuse him this week as long as he‘s this OP xD it‘s too fun lol
NO do not nerf his lightsaber damage are you crazy!!!??? How slow he swings and how big of a target he is, he needs that big damage.
Without worrying ? Seriously ? He's killed as fast as he kill them, maybe even faster !
This, he gets melted if he takes a blaster hero head on, especially ones with stuns or the like. He needs the damage to compensate for his slower swings and poor stamina.
Nah man, Lando can literally turn him into a garbage heap before he can even get close
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
@GenxDarchi , Idk man, I eat Lando’s for Breakfast with him so far. Then again, I bait that stun every time too lol (see the radar start to trickle [means he threw it close] + the sound, crawl away, reengage) . So mad. They get SO mad lol.
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That's gotta be a bad Lando. Should keep that on him instead of just chucking it. At least stay near by.
Unless you got a Chewie near you. Then do whatever
"It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
I have been reliably informed that playing smart like this and baiting crucial moves that would slay you is the wrong way to do it.
We should stop thinking and press R2 instead.
Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
You have been misinformed sir lol. Baiting = God Tier countering/finishing. Nothing is better than that feeling you get when the enemy feels nothing anymore at all.
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"What do you mean my lightsaber doesn't solve an overcharged bowcaster with a shock grenade + extra vulnerability on its own!?!? Actually having to use my brain rather than think with my glow stick? The horror."
That aside, when is PS4 time? Me and Empire need competence in our GA matches. I can guarantee constantly recharged Thermal Detonators and what have you. Unless there are LAAT ships on the field. In which case, I'll be ensuring that no heroes leading the charge die to a green beam.
Also Bloodborne. No PS4 collection is ever complete without Bloodborne.
Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
Black Friday or cyber Monday is the day/days.
Gonna play the sales by ear etc.
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"When you ask for trouble, you should not be surprised when it finds you". - Plo Koon
If you pop that shock before he is in range, then Lando is getting turned into a shish kebab lol. I agree on that.
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
The good.
By far my favorite is the voice acting and lines. My favorite quote is definitely "Consider this a harvesting mission." Pretty brutal stuff for a brutal character. I love it! The visuals and art work for GG are amazing. The alternative Damage look is great and I often switch between the standard form and damaged version. Game play wise all of his star cards seem viable once his bugs are fixed. GG hits like a truck which is great and should be kept that way given his low stamina and slow swing speed. His stamina vs blaster fire is fine. I think a Dice employee said it best "When has GG ever seen blocking blaster fire?" As someone who watched the Clone Wars animated series he hardly if ever did that. While GG certainly has the damage output he is not a tank and will die quickly when outnumbered. Yes GG gets melted with Chewy and Lando but that's a different issue for another thread. I think his current health and damage he receives is fine. The character died from a blaster so its only natural blaster fire is effective against him. Secondly, people seem to forget that GG was a coward. He would never engage an enemy unless he had the advantage. Players that take GG and charge straight into battle forget this and wonder why they get mowed down.
The bad.
Obviously the glitches for two of three abilities. I find myself only using claw rush. Due to these current glitches I have not upgraded any of the star cards relating to Thrust Surge or Unrelenting Advance as I am sure his gameplay will change once these are fixed. Lastly and this is very very minor GG's name when spelled in Aurebesh (Galactic Alphabet) does not have a space between his name like other heros.
Final thoughts. Once the bugs are fixed in his abilities he will be a more deadly hero. Does not need a buff or nerf just polishing.
Exactly that’s why we need hero hunt
- He is less mobile than Vader! Turn arc is far too wide/slow
- Unrelenting Rush should be a little more fluid and mobile. Sometimes it roots to one spot.
- Should have been released with Obi Wan or some other character as it is very difficult to get him for a round. Everybody wants to play him and level up
- Striking and Thrust Surge seem a bit off. A lot of swiping misses.
Great force/mechanical jump!
Claw Rush is the best of his abilities beside the jump.... get's one out of trouble plus causes plenty!
Great work!!!!!
I seriously thought that was like a glitch or lag or something? Felt like I got stunned forever and couldn't move.. If it's intentional to have GG stunned for longer then everyone will just play Lando or Chewie and continuously melt him...
Thanks for clarifying, I realised that after I'd posted this when I had a go on others...for some reason I thought Luke's kick was his melee but you're totally right, so ignore my comment EA!
No his hit box is too big and make him a lot more vulnerable to blasters. Vs bad players is not a big problem but against good player is a sentence of death in GA. It need also a buff on his block vs blasters or is like if he don't have it at all.
Luckily Claw Rush comes into play, but I just think Grievous shouldn't have to rely on an ability to track a target that other saber users can just kill by spamming R2.