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Improve it, but not remove. ;-)
If you expected to see more from me regarding EOR MM, well sorry, but I don't know anything more, I'm just a moderator of these forums and I know no more and no less than yours. You asked when there will be a response from the team, I also asked this question and here is the answer. I think in this case you should not consider this term as a joke.
Maybe I shouldn't have posted that comment here at all.
I'm sure you understand the context of "soon" dating as far back as BF1. No one likes to hear soon as a response. They can easily say it's being worked on we will get back to you .
I thought the use of soon was appropriate. To me it means never. They will never remove the EoRMM..
http://bit.ly/2smYu2B playa from day 1 when shift was real
The self awareness is so high that it’s on shirts, I expected no less and no more.
XBL- JsOnMyFett 13
Do not kill the messenger
At least it is some communication which for some will be enough to at least stay and see how it ends.
They are probably wondering the same thing, how to tell folks this stuff is here to stay. Which by no means is acceptable at least for me, but it will give me a clear picture, stay with SWBF2 or move along.
Dates or an actual timeframe go a long way.
Exactly Prest0n, if you have nothing to say, don't say it. 'Soon' is as empty as an answer can be. If you were more devoted to be the bridge between community members and EA Staff / Dev Team, you'd come with a more satisfying response, even if it also meant that they wanted to tell us: 'a response will come soon'. Because that would be caring for the community, something you didn't show when simply coming here with a 'Soon' as an answer expecting that to accomplish anything good.
And I love when you moderators get to remember everyone you're just players like us. If you're just like us, what's your opinion on MM? Do you even play this game? Can you have a differing opinion then that of EA? Or is this just an excuse to pass the responsibility on to the superiors?
Nice of you to organize this topic on behalf of EA and F8RGE, but you must act more like a player and less like an employee if you want those arguments of 'being like us' to make sense.
A player dedicated enough to become a moderator of the game's forum would DEFINETLY have an opinion on MM. So what is it? And please don't come with an answer as empty as your 'Soon' (e.g. I find MM is fine).
Well, they'll still exist.
But visit the Rogue Bros Channel, there we document many BUGs and possible workarounds for them. There's also gameplay and other videos related to EA's Star Wars Battlefront (I & II)
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XBL- JsOnMyFett 13
I've edited your post and removed discussion of moderation part. Let's follow the rules please: https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/76222/star-wars-battlefront-forum-rules-guidelines
No way, man. That’s an awesome response. I mean yeah, I understand his point and it’s credible, but that response was perfect. I smiled, then chuckled. Everyone should understand by now that updates and fixes are measured in weeks to months. Knowing that doesn’t help of course. Still, the occasional drop of the word “soon” by mods or devs it to me, valuable humor at this point. Nice.
Seriously? Take it easy man. It’s just a video game.
http://bit.ly/2smYu2B playa from day 1 when shift was real
So tried to play HvV yesterday, wait times was horrible and when games was made it was squash matches. So bad the rebel team had no kills what so ever.
Seriously? You paid for this. I paid for this. We all paid for this, and it wasn't cheap. It's a triple A game. Getting an "employee" free of charge for EA like Prest0n to poorly appease us while their "live service" continues to be a mess for over a year now is RIDICULOUS.
It could be a toy, it could be a trip, anything actually. We paid for this, and we were promised several things that didn't come to be true. Among lies, delays, and BUGs everywhere, we're striving to keep having fun with Star Wars. If it wasn't Star Wars, this game and its community would already be dead.
"Thanks" for doing the annoying part of a mod's job here, but where is your opinion on MM? You're a player as you love to remind us, so where is your opinion? You're quick to enforce the rules on me, but to answer a simple question it's difficult isn't it?
Well, they'll still exist.
But visit the Rogue Bros Channel, there we document many BUGs and possible workarounds for them. There's also gameplay and other videos related to EA's Star Wars Battlefront (I & II)
My opinion is that eor mm is not perfect system and based on your feedback it should be improved. Devs completely understand this. Tbh I don’t know why you’re asking my opinion. But if it’s important for you then okay.
could you please killswitch the EOR MM like you did with palpatine this spring ? fix it first and then bring it back (or not!)
if i wanted to change the mode, i will go back to the main menu, i don't need you to change the mode i am playing.
no offence but EOR MM is worst than ever ! fuller servers ? maybe or maybe not but for sure it is not working correctly.
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Or at least someone who can do it will say that this stays and ir is definite, and then i will never buy DICE product again.
Yes, we paid for it. And it could be better. Many things could be better. That being said, it’s still a great game, and I got my money’s worth by May/June. I bought it in February. Everything else is just a bonus.
@||Prest0n|| or any moderators job isn’t to appease us. They are simply here to regulate the rules of this forum. Anything else is also just a bonus. Beating up moderators on the forum will accomplish nothing. They know no more than we do. They aren’t responsible for any content, nor do they have direct lines to Stockholm.
His response was actually pretty humorous, in light of the whole soon vebage that we’ve received from those who actually are responsible for this game. I thought so at least.
I can feeeeel your anger, it gives you focus, makes you stronger
Never forget
right there with you
I dont even want to log on ingame and try to play
too many issues make the game miserable
EoR MM the worst. If it is not removed by the end of November then this game is lost. Any update will be unplayable and 1 year after release will be the end
http://bit.ly/2smYu2B playa from day 1 when shift was real
Well this is a game-crippling issue and you seem to have contact with the developers who seem to be outright ignoring our evidence that this is killing the game, at this point the "it looks good on our end" statement is coming across as a blatant lie.
Empty servers
Can't play in squads with friends
Changing game modes
Playing as the same faction many times in a row
Being forced onto laggy ping sites
This NEEDS to be addressed, I asked you because the moderators seem to have contact with the development team.
Playing HvV. Got put into a lobby with one other person.
Concepts for potential maps:
https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/126706/a-list-of-maps-they-could-add-to-this-game-spoiler-alert-its-a-long-list#latest
That alone is forgivable, in my opinion. At least the first couple of days.
It's the fact that that is the last thing we've heard about it.
Not a "We hear you, we're looking into it."
Not a "Our bad man, on second investigation, we have some problems to work out."
Not even a "This is being looked into"
F8RGE always has time to respond to compliments, and pat himself on the back for ending "the radio silence" that came before him, but never wants to touch the tough subjects.
So much time has past now that no amount of "We're looking into it" is going to fix this.
It's time for solutions. I'd like to play this game again someday.
And dont even try to defend their canned responses, it's a joke.
1. is it a test or is it real matchmaking?
2. If it is a test how long will it go on?
3. If the goal is to fill up matches as quick as possible, what about the reports of empty lobbies and splitting up friends?
are our systems just outliers?
4. is it intended to put you into a different mode entirely?
I was on the verge of giving into the new match making as it was doing well for a few days and then last few days things has been so one sided and the players so arrogant that it makes me more angry that i cant play and enjoy games.
also to add now its been one year since playing the game the current state of it really makes me sad.
It has been approx the same time for me, almost one year, i had so much fun with it... and now i got steamrolls, broken map rotation (constantly getting the same map), even if i get the map i like, how many times can you play it straight...
Also i was spending more time in lobby waiting for players, in menu waiting to find a lobby than actual gameplay
Sad, angry, disappointed, sometimes feels like i'm turning to the dark side...
As you know, the End of Round Matchmaking had been tested a multiple times over the last few months. Each time we saw good progress but it also had minor issues. We worked on these issues and recently we were in a position to test it again.
Those tests went well and while we thought we could still improve things, we were happy with how things were. We performed multiple back-end updates to improve the system even more, and again, we saw improvements across the board.
We have seen time to find a game drop drastically. We're not talking 1-2 seconds saved here and there, but a reduction of more than 50% in some cases. Unlike our previous tests, it is also working well across all game modes, large and small. We are seeing the time to matchmake be at its lowest level and games are more full.
Games being more full was also one of our goals, and it's something that we've achieved.
We've been analysing our server telemetry very carefully, after every tweak we make we ensure the needle is pointing in the right direction. We've also been looking at feedback from players and we can see that it has improved over time from the recent integration and then subsequent tweaks.
This is not to say that there won't be some people that are experiencing problems. In an online world, this is always likely to happen to some regard.
If you are encountering anything odd then I would kindly request that you provide the following, as this will assist in us pinpointing any potential issues.
Yes, I am aware that this system has been tested before, it was bad the first time and I made a thread about it then.
The second time it was implemented I didn't bother playing because of what happened the first time.
Well, the backend changes must not have been improvements considering this...
"Games being more full was also one of our goals, and it's something that we've achieved."
The video/screenshot evidence that has been stockpiled ins this thread says otherwise. Your "it looks good on our end" statements are carrying absolutely 0 weight.
People have been doing this info request, which again I will point out that listing the ping site is irrelevant because the EoR MM does change which ping site we are in. It is very frustrating when I play with people from different parts of the world and we can't stay in the ping site that works for us all, also we are rarely in the same squad for more than one game.
And this question still stands
Why can't we choose to stay in a server?
Getting kicked from a full game to empty servers,
The repeated playing of the same side
Incessant LAG is definitely our fault.
Moving from one mode to another without even trying
Being told one of us initiated matchmaking (which is a blatant lie)
Having to quit to search for a new game.
Unable to join friends.
Is our fault lol.
50% quicker ( due to server reduction numbers) well guess your test rig must be a ZX Spectrum and you have it down from 10 minutes to almost 5 now, well done.
I will now write to my ISP and ask them to switch off my super fast connection and blame them or i could just look at my gaming rig and blame the high end couple of grand set up i have, must be my 32gb ram or 4000mhz processor or my 1080ti doing it.
Gamertag: (not saying but it isn't what i use here in the forum but am UK based).
Platform: PC
Description of the issue: See above
Time and date it occurred: every day
Ping site you're connected to: Europe, 12 ms
Game mode you were playing: SA and HVV and Blast and GA and Strike. (no extraction or ewok or hero SA as no games available 1066 or other errors)
Were you in a group: only occasionally for HVV. Often it will not let us join each other.
Thank you for clarifying that 😉, at first when I saw that “soon” I was a little bit confused 🤭
@F8RGE Again no meaningful comment addressing switching game modes or broken map rotation !
So if your ultimate goal is to push ppl away from your products and from producer, you won guys, you can add me to that pool !
Well at least i had some fun before so i am not sorry to spend money on it in the first place, also the Singe Player campaign was quite good for me.
I don't even know if I should take this seriously or as a joke, because you ALWAYS say the same trash over and over. SHOW US THE DATA!!! because im sure the 19 p[ages of COMPLAINTS on this thread isn't enough for you to turn OFF EOR.
I’ve never had one issue on PS4
Hi, no hate, an legitimate question, so you never seen broken map rotation in for example GA (if you play this mode), you were never thrown into different game mode as EOR kicks in ?
Very happy for you
The only time I was rage was when we had the stupid Halloween “special” few days, the same 3-4 maps on rotation but that was deliberate, that really annoyed me
Gamertag
Platform- PS4
Description of the issue- Sent to foreign server
Time and date it occurred- Just now 14/11/18 22:30
Ping site you're connected to- Sydney Australia ~18ms
Game mode you were playing- GA
Were you in a group- Group of 4
This has been happening since EoR MM started along with being sent to the home screen, half full and empty lobbies. One of the above issues happens 9/10 attempts at playing GA. I have figured that the EoR MM algorithm determines larger groups as a lower priority to remain on that server so I have tried many combinations like, on my own, groups of two, three, four, many more but really I just see the same results. Actually like i said above we generally don't risk being in groups of more than 4 because its game over if we do and to be fair the most maps I've been able to play is 3-4 in a row playing by myself or in a group of no more than 4. And the starting numbers for each round are very poor and one sided. Its pretty obvious whats going on when I see 10-20 players disappear. They usually come back if they can but the games half over! Then it happens again when the next map comes around!!. I'm lucky enough to have a very good memory and be very observant. I do record most of this anyway and have gigabots of evidence but don't expect me to upload it as it cost me time and money. I am also being polite by only speaking for myself but i'm hearing the exact same from the most of my friends. This will be my last post on this issue and I truly hope it counts for something positive for the players because I've had a gutfull of EoR MM
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Thank you for the answer but it’s quite the same as the other ones we received so far😕
Do not confuse 'we' with 'I'.
Just because you have a problem with something does't mean everyone else does.
If this was as big a problem as you claim it to be, it wouldn't be the same people mentioning it over and over again. I'm not saying you don't have legitimate grounds to complain, everyone is entitled to their opinion but the negative impact is very confined right now.
For the vast majority of players, it has been an improvement.
I've given you a response, and while it may not be the response you wanted it was unlikely to ever satisfy you. Even if I came out and said "Just for you, Eshtazaki, we're turning it off". It likely wouldn't have been good enough.
As above, if you have specifics then I'll be more than happy to hear them and work with the team here at DICE to investigate your account to see what's happened, and if it identifies any issues that we can work towards.
It comes across as if you are blaming us for having problems with the system you implemented.
I actually have 5 friends that left the game due to EOR MM. The "few" of us here on the forums complaining are people that care about this game - we really do and feel very passionate about it. Enough so that we actually take the time to post here and even make suggestions.
I don't think the vast majority is actually happy with the system. When playing I am always seeing other people complaining in chat about the eor mm system.
We have legit problems and questions as well as a good suggestion that will solve most of the problems.
Issues:
- Map rotation is broken due to EOR MM
- Squad system is broken due to EOR MM
- There is still no real balance
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Fixes:
- Give us the choice of staying on a server (if we press the MM button then it will take those that press it to another server)
- Enable a team shuffle
- keep friends playing in a squad together - was that not one of the features of the squad system?
This is something we're investigating, as well as joining a game with a group and it not placing you together in a squad.