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Is Boba Fett in a good place right now?

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adamjbamford
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edited December 2018
I think he needs some changes to make him handle better. I enjoyed playing him in bf1 but he feels a bit ‘off’ in this game. Do you think he’s fine where he is, or does he need tweaks. I’m not just talking about balancing, I’m talking about him being a well rounded hero in general.
Changes:

JETPACK
-Revert jetpack to how it worked originally, more focused on horizontal movement than vertical movement.
-As well as making it work how it used to reduce the speed of it to roughly 60% of what it usually would be.
-Make it take about 0.5 seconds longer for boba to properly start his ascent when holding the jetpack button.


These changes are to make the jetpack more of a strategic tool for getting to vantage points, rather than a way of escaping lightsaber spamming. For those who say this would make boba too weak against saber spammers, remember he has the arguably the best evade in the game.


EE-3 BLASTER
-Increase the start damage of each blaster bolt 35 to 45 and the end damage from 20 to 30.
-Increase the damage drop of from 20m to 30m
-Change the reticle to the one from battlefront 2015
-Move the melee to the y/triangle button on console and allow for toggle zoom when pressing the right stick (same as bf 2015)
This should make bobas gun feel more like a tactical rifle than a close range shotgun, and make it on par with the other hero guns (since it’s worse than the blurrg at the moment)


CONCUSSION ROCKET
-No delay between activating ability and firing the rocket (same should apply to rocket barrage)
-Rocket should actually blind enemies or at least increase the blur effect to make it harder to see what’s going on
-Enemies should be affected 2 seconds longer than they currently are
-Slightly bigger area of effect

FOR THE HUNT
-Enemies killed during for the hunt restore 20 base health without his hok card
-For the hunt has a 4 second longer cooldown

HEALTH
-Increase health to 600

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  • Best hero by a large margin in HvV, issue most have is his skill requirement to be extremely good is the highest of all heroes in that mode.
  • Ridiculous suggestions.
  • Best hero by a large margin in HvV, issue most have is his skill requirement to be extremely good is the highest of all heroes in that mode.

    I wouldn't say that. Han/vader/iden are just as good if not better. Also a all jedi lineup renders him useless & shows you he's just a 1 trick pony
  • Best hero by a large margin in HvV, issue most have is his skill requirement to be extremely good is the highest of all heroes in that mode.

    I wouldn't say that. Han/vader/iden are just as good if not better. Also a all jedi lineup renders him useless & shows you he's just a 1 trick pony

    We must be playing different games, none of those are at Boba level in HvV lol. Suggesting any saber user quite frankly is ridiculous, and even Han who I main as LS is not at Boba level. FYI 4 Jedi vs Boba, I would 1v4 that lineup no issues as would anyone who is decent with Boba.
  • Best hero by a large margin in HvV, issue most have is his skill requirement to be extremely good is the highest of all heroes in that mode.

    I wouldn't say that. Han/vader/iden are just as good if not better. Also a all jedi lineup renders him useless & shows you he's just a 1 trick pony

    We must be playing different games, none of those are at Boba level in HvV lol. Suggesting any saber user quite frankly is ridiculous, and even Han who I main as LS is not at Boba level. FYI 4 Jedi vs Boba, I would 1v4 that lineup no issues as would anyone who is decent with Boba.

    Nah bobas a beast in HvV but he's not the best character to be imo. Iden to me is the best blaster for the dark side atm. Secondary fire, high rate of fire, stun & if she has a dedicated kylo she's even more unstoppable. Idk about that all it takes is 1 push from luke a double mind trick & a repulse and he's melted
  • Ridiculous suggestions.

    If you’re going to say that at least point out why

    Boba is not in need of any kind of buffs (specially his rocket barrage, there is a huge reason this delay exist on such a deadly ability).
    He's in a good spot, he's made to be played dynamically, if people can't fly and fire at the same time there are other heroes to play, the days of the Boba sitting on a hill shooting at people with a zoom are over.
  • Lol the sarlaac pit is not a good place son
  • Iden is Stun, Shoot and Roll until the stun comes out of cooldown.
    At least Boba requires skill to kill heroes.
  • He’s bad in GA but very good in HvV, so these changes would completely break him in that mode. He needs a massive rocket barrage nerf and a jetpack speed nerf, then maybe these changes could work.
  • lerodemmy
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    edited December 2018
    If you took away all his weapons and abilities and left him with only the jet pack, Boba would still be the best character in HvV. Sounds BALANCED to me.
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  • hsf_
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    I'd be open for them to rework his jetpack. Personally I don't think it should be a sustainable ability, I think it should work like the rocket enforcer but tweaked to be better, you know?. It's far too easy to just "be out the way" when you're a target in HvV, you can get to places with Boba which are inaccessible to anyone else, etc... But that's just me, most will disagree with it.
  • hsf_
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    Iden is Stun, Shoot and Roll until the stun comes out of cooldown.
    At least Boba requires skill to kill heroes.

    You mean purple rocket cards instead of skill right? Boba is easy to kill people with, plus his melee is op as hell. I actually finished 2nd on the podium in HvV just using melee as Boba in one game on Yavin IV. Granted the enemy were not exactly brilliant and it finished 0-8, but the ridiculous speed at which Boba can melee makes it really strong.
  • lerodemmy wrote: »
    If you took away all his weapons and abilities and left him with only the jet pack, Boba would still be the best character in HvV. Sounds BALANCED to me.

    Lmao
  • Best hero by a large margin in HvV, issue most have is his skill requirement to be extremely good is the highest of all heroes in that mode.

    I wouldn't say that. Han/vader/iden are just as good if not better. Also a all jedi lineup renders him useless & shows you he's just a 1 trick pony

    We must be playing different games, none of those are at Boba level in HvV lol. Suggesting any saber user quite frankly is ridiculous, and even Han who I main as LS is not at Boba level. FYI 4 Jedi vs Boba, I would 1v4 that lineup no issues as would anyone who is decent with Boba.

    Nah bobas a beast in HvV but he's not the best character to be imo. Iden to me is the best blaster for the dark side atm. Secondary fire, high rate of fire, stun & if she has a dedicated kylo she's even more unstoppable. Idk about that all it takes is 1 push from luke a double mind trick & a repulse and he's melted

    Iden is too restricted by being ground only. Boba is the only character who can 1v4 with ease, mobility is what makes him unstoppable. Firing at max speed and with high accuracy is enough to wipe most teams. Iden simply doesn’t have the ability to routinely deal with multiple hero’s at the same time. Once her abilities are on cooldown her lack of mobility makes her an easy target. Boba rains fire from a fair distance, and is faster than any hero. He doesn’t need others to make him OP, just skill.

    Re Luke being an issue, if any saber is even coming close to using an ability on you as Boba then a strategy rework is needed. No melee user should stand a chance on Boba. Until LS gets a jet pack user Boba will always be the best.
  • I have always hated his actual button layout, I want him to aim down sights normally with the left trigger, so here are some of my suggestions.
    -To free up the bumper for the jetpack and trigger for the aim, I've been wanting to do something about Boba's hilariously bad Concussion Rocket. I originally thought about getting rid of the ability entirely or moving it or For the Hunt to Triangle/Y, but I have a different idea now. What about merging the Concussion Rocket with the Rocket Barrage? The first rocket fired is the Concussion Rocket, which will distort enemy vision for all characters and will slow down infantry and reinforcements, ala the old Officer Flash Bang. They could give that rocket a good base damage to start with (150-200 or so), and then the other rockets deal less damage, or it could function as it normally does. I wonder whether or not they should leave the Disruption effect off of it or if they could have the Concussion Rocket do that normally, I'm not sure.
    -Doing that will leave two open cards for the hunter as Concussion Rocket is no longer a separate ability, so I recommend making one a "Mandalorian Armor" card that increases his base health to 700-750 at max level, BUT it has the side-effect of progressively slowing him down until at max level his Jetpack is what it was pre-patch. The other card could either be a generic increase to his regen (something that should happen normally in my opinion) OR it could be a change to his flamethrower, like...
    -Sad to say I liked his Flamethrower better in the last game, but I think it'd be a cool fourth ability for him on the Triangle/Y/2 key. It could function more like the First Order flametrooper's awesome weapon but with less distance. I know the melee is one of the best in the game, so this could just be a Card to change it to acting like the
    2015/Flametrooper version. If it's changed, however, imagine another feature as his melee...
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    These are just my opinions of course, but I would at least love to see the guy with the burst-fire sniper rifle be able to aim normally.
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  • i would also love if he could aim down scope. but then the gun might be too good
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  • If his For The Hunt consistently revealed people to him and his team, then yes. Sadly, it's as inconsistent as Infiltration and Scan Dart.
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  • needs buffs in GA hes fine in HvV though.
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  • Also, his for the hunt should mark the enemy the same way rey’s does. That orange color is so hard to notice
    I think he needs some changes to make him handle better. I enjoyed playing him in bf1 but he feels a bit ‘off’ in this game. Do you think he’s fine where he is, or does he need tweaks. I’m not just talking about balancing, I’m talking about him being a well rounded hero in general.
    Changes:

    JETPACK
    -Revert jetpack to how it worked originally, more focused on horizontal movement than vertical movement.
    -As well as making it work how it used to reduce the speed of it to roughly 60% of what it usually would be.
    -Make it take about 0.5 seconds longer for boba to properly start his ascent when holding the jetpack button.


    These changes are to make the jetpack more of a strategic tool for getting to vantage points, rather than a way of escaping lightsaber spamming. For those who say this would make boba too weak against saber spammers, remember he has the arguably the best evade in the game.


    EE-3 BLASTER
    -Increase the start damage of each blaster bolt 35 to 45 and the end damage from 20 to 30.
    -Increase the damage drop of from 20m to 30m
    -Change the reticle to the one from battlefront 2015
    -Move the melee to the y/triangle button on console and allow for toggle zoom when pressing the right stick (same as bf 2015)
    This should make bobas gun feel more like a tactical rifle than a close range shotgun, and make it on par with the other hero guns (since it’s worse than the blurrg at the moment)


    CONCUSSION ROCKET
    -No delay between activating ability and firing the rocket (same should apply to rocket barrage)
    -Rocket should actually blind enemies or at least increase the blur effect to make it harder to see what’s going on
    -Enemies should be affected 2 seconds longer than they currently are
    -Slightly bigger area of effect

    FOR THE HUNT
    -Enemies killed during for the hunt restore 20 base health without his hok card
    -For the hunt has a 4 second longer cooldown

    HEALTH
    -Increase health to 600

  • Boba and chewbacca can be pretty hard to balance, since they are very good in HVV and really sucks in GA, so any drastic changes can balance them in one mode and break another one
  • The only change I would make to Boba Fett is to have his blaster use the correct SFX; right now they got him using the firing sounds for Jango's Westar 64 blasters, when in the movies his blaster uses the same firing sound as the Probe Droid.
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  • Give me JANGO Fett as a skin for Boba Fett with his duel pistols though!!!

    We don't need two jet backers playing at once!
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  • unit900000 wrote: »
    needs buffs in GA hes fine in HvV though.

    Whattttttttttttttt
  • Boba Fett is the cowards character to play. Too many times I see someone that plays this character and flies away when they become the Target, having the rest of the players chase after him.

    A cowards character to play.
  • Boba Fett is the cowards character to play. Too many times I see someone that plays this character and flies away when they become the Target, having the rest of the players chase after him.

    A cowards character to play.

    He poops on all characters
  • He's the only hero I can 4v1 easily.
  • The problem with boba In my opinion.
    • Highest skill cap between a bad boba and an amazing boba. You know the difference when you face amazing vs avg and bad.
    • Even a bad boba with the Target system is better than all other heroes due to how his jetpack works now. Launch he was a toad too, but much easier to track down.
    • With the respawn system, you can dive bomb with him and just win.
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  • KresusFIN wrote: »
    If his For The Hunt consistently revealed people to him and his team, then yes. Sadly, it's as inconsistent as Infiltration and Scan Dart.

    Yeah, they still haven’t fixed it. Infiltration and reveal skills are always spotty.
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  • The skill required to be a good boba is actually rough as currently. I agree with most of these. Other then the delay jet pack start,

    Being a player who uses boba a lot, he needs a way to parry light sabers. Boba always carried a vibroblade. That should be an option for malee to block saber spam,
  • DarthLuke wrote: »
    The skill required to be a good boba is actually rough as currently. I agree with most of these. Other then the delay jet pack start,

    Being a player who uses boba a lot, he needs a way to parry light sabers. Boba always carried a vibroblade. That should be an option for malee to block saber spam,

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  • I think he needs some changes to make him handle better. I enjoyed playing him in bf1 but he feels a bit ‘off’ in this game. Do you think he’s fine where he is, or does he need tweaks. I’m not just talking about balancing, I’m talking about him being a well rounded hero in general.
    Changes:

    JETPACK
    -Revert jetpack to how it worked originally, more focused on horizontal movement than vertical movement.
    -As well as making it work how it used to reduce the speed of it to roughly 60% of what it usually would be.
    -Make it take about 0.5 seconds longer for boba to properly start his ascent when holding the jetpack button.


    These changes are to make the jetpack more of a strategic tool for getting to vantage points, rather than a way of escaping lightsaber spamming. For those who say this would make boba too weak against saber spammers, remember he has the arguably the best evade in the game.


    EE-3 BLASTER
    -Increase the start damage of each blaster bolt 35 to 45 and the end damage from 20 to 30.
    -Increase the damage drop of from 20m to 30m
    -Change the reticle to the one from battlefront 2015
    -Move the melee to the y/triangle button on console and allow for toggle zoom when pressing the right stick (same as bf 2015)
    This should make bobas gun feel more like a tactical rifle than a close range shotgun, and make it on par with the other hero guns (since it’s worse than the blurrg at the moment)


    CONCUSSION ROCKET
    -No delay between activating ability and firing the rocket (same should apply to rocket barrage)
    -Rocket should actually blind enemies or at least increase the blur effect to make it harder to see what’s going on
    -Enemies should be affected 2 seconds longer than they currently are
    -Slightly bigger area of effect

    FOR THE HUNT
    -Enemies killed during for the hunt restore 20 base health without his hok card
    -For the hunt has a 4 second longer cooldown

    HEALTH
    -Increase health to 600

    Yes, Bob is in a good place right now and here's why. When people think about Bob what do they think? They think bountyhunter, they think jetpack, they think rockets. So for as long as Bob can stay in the air for a reasonable amount of time and he can use his rockets while he is up there then he is fine. That's all he really has going for him anyway, his jetpack and his rockets. But that's just my opinion my hypothesis.

    So yeah do not worry about bob.
  • I try to use his blaster more than the rockets and its been doing great for me by doing bee buzz tactics. I save rockets mainly for any blocking saber users.

    The key is to use his dodge more frequently and to fly very low over/past your targets, not flying to high ledges. It was laughable when a Han or a saber user couldnt land a single hit on me.
  • The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.
  • Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it
  • Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it

    Yeah, Boba will not be touched unless he wants to be.
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  • Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it

    Yea one saber boba will likely. But more than 2, boba is dead unlike the heroes dont know what theyre doing.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it

    Yeah, Boba will not be touched unless he wants to be.

    Yea he will if the hero is a good player.
  • Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it

    Yea one saber boba will likely. But more than 2, boba is dead unlike the heroes dont know what theyre doing.

    That statement is actually ridiculous. I’ll 1v4 as boba all saber Heros, if I lost I would literally uninstall the game. You would literally have to be beyond terrible as boba to lose to sabers, reasons are obvious
  • Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it

    Yeah, Boba will not be touched unless he wants to be.

    Yea he will if the hero is a good player.

    im an extremely good player but if the Boba player has mastered Boba then your not going to do anything vs him with a saber hero the Boba player will simply stay out of range and slowly whittle down your health.
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  • Boba is better in GA now that he can heal, yes, but by no means is he even remotely balanced against regular infantry. Fighting melee is a lot different than against people with guns who can easily shoot you back and out DPS you in gun fights. I agree with primarily your damage Values on the blaster, it should be like the launch bluurg in terms of TTK/Accuracy. Slightly nerfing Jetpack speed may be appropriate, but I'd honestly rather see a flat buff to boba. Revert the AOE on his rockets as well, or rework it into his Hero rockets card.
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  • Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it

    Yea one saber boba will likely. But more than 2, boba is dead unlike the heroes dont know what theyre doing.

    That statement is actually ridiculous. I’ll 1v4 as boba all saber Heros, if I lost I would literally uninstall the game. You would literally have to be beyond terrible as boba to lose to sabers, reasons are obvious

    Nope .
  • He’s fine right now. I have a lot of respect for people that play him and engage even when they get killer rather than the players that hide as target.
  • He’s fine right now. I have a lot of respect for people that play him and engage even when they get killer rather than the players that hide as target.
    I totally disagree. Firstly, players don’t deserve credit or respect for actually playing the game and not running.

    Secondly, Boba is so easy to play successfully in HvV. He’s untouchable by almost half the Light Side. Getting kills with him, as target or not, is no great accomplishment.
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  • lerodemmy wrote: »
    He’s fine right now. I have a lot of respect for people that play him and engage even when they get killer rather than the players that hide as target.
    I totally disagree. Firstly, players don’t deserve credit or respect for actually playing the game and not running.

    Secondly, Boba is so easy to play successfully in HvV. He’s untouchable by almost half the Light Side. Getting kills with him, as target or not, is no great accomplishment.

    Idk about that seen a lot of bad players use boba unsuccessfully in HvV. You could say getting kills with most of the darkside is no great accomplishment lol
  • Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it

    Yea one saber boba will likely. But more than 2, boba is dead unlike the heroes dont know what theyre doing.

    That statement is actually ridiculous. I’ll 1v4 as boba all saber Heros, if I lost I would literally uninstall the game. You would literally have to be beyond terrible as boba to lose to sabers, reasons are obvious

    I’d pay money to watch you 1v4 sabers with boba.
  • Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it

    Yea one saber boba will likely. But more than 2, boba is dead unlike the heroes dont know what theyre doing.

    That statement is actually ridiculous. I’ll 1v4 as boba all saber Heros, if I lost I would literally uninstall the game. You would literally have to be beyond terrible as boba to lose to sabers, reasons are obvious

    I’d pay money to watch you 1v4 sabers with boba.

    Your joking right? You would rate the chances of 4 saber users higher than Boba? I would even rate a moderately able Boba over 4x saber users. Add me on PC, I’ll gladly 1v4 saber users as Boba. Most Boba mains would since a flying character who has the highest movement speed and is ranged must be terrible to lose against people who can’t hit him
  • Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    Decrypt3_ wrote: »
    The only thing boba needs a nerf is how fast he can fly. They need to reduce it. His blaster is good atm. Lmao if u 4v1 with boba ur facing non good heroes. A mind trick n luke ur dead.

    Lol mindtrick against Boba, any Boba being hit by that junk needs to relinquish him to better players. Saber v Boba, 100% of the time will be Boba. It’s a joke even comparing it

    Yea one saber boba will likely. But more than 2, boba is dead unlike the heroes dont know what theyre doing.

    That statement is actually ridiculous. I’ll 1v4 as boba all saber Heros, if I lost I would literally uninstall the game. You would literally have to be beyond terrible as boba to lose to sabers, reasons are obvious

    I’d pay money to watch you 1v4 sabers with boba.

    Have you played against viciousxiv or Carlos they're amazing boba players & can definitely do that.
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