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The Dark Side is so Overpowered it’s not even Fun Anymore

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    Don't worry he'll bring balance to the game

    Who is that?

    Darth Sidious son

    No it’s not.

    It actually was confirmed in the last vader comic. He used the force to create him. Vader went through a portal that showed the past & his future battle with ahsoka. That why he says it was foretold that you would be here.

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    Don't worry he'll bring balance to the game

    Who is that?

    Darth Sidious son

    No it’s not.

    It actually was confirmed in the last vader comic. He used the force to create him. Vader went through a portal that showed the past & his future battle with ahsoka. That why he says it was foretold that you would be here.

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    There ya go
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    Don't worry he'll bring balance to the game

    Who is that?

    Darth Sidious son

    No it’s not.

    It actually was confirmed in the last vader comic. He used the force to create him. Vader went through a portal that showed the past & his future battle with ahsoka. That why he says it was foretold that you would be here.

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    There ya go

    A FORCE BABY! That’s adorable.
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  • the problem is that your too good at the game. try to lose and die more often. it will become way more fun when there are people who are better than you at the game ;)

    Lemme guess? You use grevious and think you're good because you easily 3 hit people. I feel like your the type to leave a match just because your on the LS
  • u03akqvk6qze.jpg


    Don't worry he'll bring balance to the game

    Who is that?

    Darth Sidious son

    No it’s not.

    It actually was confirmed in the last vader comic. He used the force to create him. Vader went through a portal that showed the past & his future battle with ahsoka. That why he says it was foretold that you would be here.

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    There ya go

    A FORCE BABY! That’s adorable.

    Right lmao.
  • KnightActual
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    edited December 2018
    But.... I thought that's exactly what Palpatine is telling Anakin at the ballet. Why does it need confirmation?



    What I haven't seen yet, are theories and stories based off the following implication. "He could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life."

    Presumably, he did just that. Perhaps more than once. There could be MANY "Chosen Ones" out there. And if I were J.J., that'd be my answer to Rey's lineage, why she's drawn to the Dark Side, and why she's so dang powerful. She may not be a Skywalker, but she might be descended directly from one of the many "Chosen Ones". In fact, it could be the explanation you need for anyone you want. Snoke could be a "Chosen One" directly.

    Heck, maybe Anakin isn't the Chosen One at all. Just the first attempt by Sidious to copy what his Master Plagueis had taught him.
  • Raylol
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    edited December 2018
    Agree, I can easily play on Iphone with Darkside saber heroes when controls are hard, and with lightside I can't even get 5 kills in a match xd.



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  • Raylol wrote: »
    Agree, I can easily play on Iphone with Darkside saber heroes when controls are hard, and with lightside I can't even get 5 kills in a match xd.



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  • I generally find that, unless the DS is really bad or the LS really good, the DS steamrolls. Have I been on a team that was steamrolled by the LS? Yes. But this is a rare occurrence (for me). If the LS wins a match, the match is generally very close: 1-0.
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  • Raylol
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    Relmets wrote: »
    Raylol wrote: »
    Agree, I can easily play on Iphone with Darkside saber heroes when controls are hard, and with lightside I can't even get 5 kills in a match xd.



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    What? It's true is rlly hard xd, but im getting better. Maul is easy to control. As Blaster user is almost impossible to play.
    But for games like Red dead and gta and race games, and sports, rpg the controls are amazing.

    Just did a good match with him :3

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  • Raylol wrote: »
    Relmets wrote: »
    Raylol wrote: »
    Agree, I can easily play on Iphone with Darkside saber heroes when controls are hard, and with lightside I can't even get 5 kills in a match xd.



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    What? It's true is rlly hard xd, but im getting better. Maul is easy to control. As Blaster user is almost impossible to play.
    But for games like Red dead and gta and race games, and sports, rpg the controls are amazing.

    Just did a good match with him :3

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    You dominate on cellulor telephones as well? Is there anything you don’t do?
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  • Raylol
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    Raylol wrote: »
    Relmets wrote: »
    Raylol wrote: »
    Agree, I can easily play on Iphone with Darkside saber heroes when controls are hard, and with lightside I can't even get 5 kills in a match xd.



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    What? It's true is rlly hard xd, but im getting better. Maul is easy to control. As Blaster user is almost impossible to play.
    But for games like Red dead and gta and race games, and sports, rpg the controls are amazing.

    Just did a good match with him :3

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    You dominate on cellulor telephones as well? Is there anything you don’t do?

    With phone I suck at BT2 atm, I'm getting good xd.
  • You got two guys that are built like a tank that deal and can take tremendous damage (Darth Vader and Grievous), characters who can fly and have myriad abilities, all the immobilizing effects, and still #1 OP: Palpatine. If he couldn't float up and down (which besides being ridiculous is completely non-canon in both movie and animated series) then it would be more fair. Also Grievous should not be able to deflect laser fire, as he does not have the Jedi abilities/reflexes to do so (and please don't suggest his "cybernetic implants" could do that). The best character on the light side is Rey who has balanced abilities; everyone else is an average joe trying to make their way in the universe. Advantage: Dark Side (again).

    /shrug. You got three guys that are built with speed that can tap one button and send any number of villains over the ledge to their deaths regardless of how many hit points they have (Luke, Yoda, Kenobi, though Han and Chewie can do it too), characters who can auto-aim and have myriad abilities, just as many if not more immobilizing effects, and still #1 OP: Han. If he couldn't knock any character down by throwing Detonite behind them and nuking them from behind while they attempt to dodge or block his shots (which besides being ridiculous is completely non-canon in both movie and animated series, okay, he hit one guy with a satchel that he didn't detonate.) then it would be more fair. Also, Chewie should not be able to throw a stun grenade, as he has never been shown to do that either. The best character on the dark side is Kylo who has balanced abilities; everyone else is an average joe trying to make their way to galactic domination. Advantage: People who state their opinions like they were facts.

    These are all just opinions. I've gone 10-0 as Light Side. I've been rolled 0-10. Usually the score is somewhere in between. Han and Lando will straight murder you if you let them. Luke is a **** on ledges. Finn can highscore because people seem to ignore him even though he's killing them over and over, doesn't make him OP'd.

    To be fair, I totally agree with you on Grievous. He Shouldn't be able to block blaster fire. I agree that Force Trained can do it because they use precognition to know where the bolt is headed and put the saber there first. However, he's shown doing it multiple times in the show so..... /shrug again. I tell myself that the line "I have been trained in your Jedi Arts by Count Dooku" means more than we gave him credit for.

    Hmmm, not sure how to take some of your tone, but that's part of the many reasons I don't care for this forum too much. I wouldn't say Han is a great threat overall, It's just Chewie that can be agitating. The light side does have advantages with shooters and brief and lethal aim assist capabilities. All the characters in the right hands can be lethal. Yes, this is all opinion...based on our perspective. I don't think the advantage swings in any way to the light side because of the push abilities: knocking over ledges can certainly get a kill, but I think it's a cheap move. I prefer a stand-up fight to all the baiting around ledges then pushing your opponent off. I finally caved and watched the entire CW series and I never once saw Grievous directly deflect laser fire. A non-force user "trained in the Jedi arts" does not give the person the ability to accurately deflect laser fire, only using the force can do that.
  • I’m the first to point out an issue with the game or agree with one. However, this is where I will give the developers credit. They have built a game with 18 (soon to be 20) villians and heroes, with a bunch of unique abilities, making each one feel somewhat different from the next all while maintaining a reasonable balance. It’s not perfect, but it doesn’t have to be. I find it pretty neat I can play as all of these awesome characters from the movies I love.

    DS and LS win plenty and lose plenty from my perspective. I’ve been smoked and I’ve smoked others. I’ve had games go down to the wire from both sides. I think the balance has more to do with who is holding the controller than who programmed the game in this case.


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  • MC_XIX
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    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    Trust me when I say they are eye openers. Yeah I've won matches as the lightside a lot in public matches but going up against top tier players who don't run over the past 3 months I've seen it. Vader, kylo, iden, palps/boba & the darkside stomps every time. It's easier to win with them. A good boba player can win a game by himself.





  • 2 examples right here. Both games we lost horribly as the light side but we when changed over we beasted as darkside. A equally balanced light side team will not beat a equally balanced dark side team. Vader over everyone, Palpatine lol is Palpatine, kylo for freeze & iden/boba stomps lightside.
  • lerodemmy wrote: »
    I’m not gonna go into some essay-Long post on this like I’ve done before. I don’t need to justify my title. I’ve made my feelings clear for the last year. If you actually play the game, then you understand.

    When you really think about what most of the Dark Side abilities can do, and then compare that to what Jedi can do, it’s a joke.

    The fact that nothing has been done and the DS continues to get stronger with every update is disgraceful and an embarrassment.

    I had been away from the game for a few months and recently started playing again. Mostly HvV. In 6 matches last night, DS won them all. In every match Grievous was top 3. I got to play as Grievous for just the second time in one of the matches and finished 1st (with obviously no good cards). And I'm admittedly not a very good player compared to some of you. Didn't see Kenobi on the leaderboard at all. I guess my point is - in a mode where the DS was already well above the LS, the two new heroes they added made it even worse. But I did enjoy most of the matches regardless, and I guess that's what matters...
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    @MC_XIX

    Come play with us today. You are clearly not facing the same types we do, and id like you too see the matches we find ourselves in. Afterwards you can tell us again your opinion on balance.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    @MC_XIX

    Come play with us today. You are clearly not facing the same types we do, and id like you too see the matches we find ourselves in. Afterwards you can tell us again your opinion on balance.

    I try to tell people that.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Nah, they have better CC. While Lando and other 800 health heroes can get to 1000 with Yoda, Han and Finn cannot. Running Yoda, Finn, Lando, and Han isn't too bad, but if they have anybody with any kind of good CC and a good blaster, LS is prob gonna lose, unless the DS is uncoordinated.
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  • You got two guys that are built like a tank that deal and can take tremendous damage (Darth Vader and Grievous), characters who can fly and have myriad abilities, all the immobilizing effects, and still #1 OP: Palpatine. If he couldn't float up and down (which besides being ridiculous is completely non-canon in both movie and animated series) then it would be more fair. Also Grievous should not be able to deflect laser fire, as he does not have the Jedi abilities/reflexes to do so (and please don't suggest his "cybernetic implants" could do that). The best character on the light side is Rey who has balanced abilities; everyone else is an average joe trying to make their way in the universe. Advantage: Dark Side (again).

    /shrug. You got three guys that are built with speed that can tap one button and send any number of villains over the ledge to their deaths regardless of how many hit points they have (Luke, Yoda, Kenobi, though Han and Chewie can do it too), characters who can auto-aim and have myriad abilities, just as many if not more immobilizing effects, and still #1 OP: Han. If he couldn't knock any character down by throwing Detonite behind them and nuking them from behind while they attempt to dodge or block his shots (which besides being ridiculous is completely non-canon in both movie and animated series, okay, he hit one guy with a satchel that he didn't detonate.) then it would be more fair. Also, Chewie should not be able to throw a stun grenade, as he has never been shown to do that either. The best character on the dark side is Kylo who has balanced abilities; everyone else is an average joe trying to make their way to galactic domination. Advantage: People who state their opinions like they were facts.

    These are all just opinions. I've gone 10-0 as Light Side. I've been rolled 0-10. Usually the score is somewhere in between. Han and Lando will straight murder you if you let them. Luke is a **** on ledges. Finn can highscore because people seem to ignore him even though he's killing them over and over, doesn't make him OP'd.

    To be fair, I totally agree with you on Grievous. He Shouldn't be able to block blaster fire. I agree that Force Trained can do it because they use precognition to know where the bolt is headed and put the saber there first. However, he's shown doing it multiple times in the show so..... /shrug again. I tell myself that the line "I have been trained in your Jedi Arts by Count Dooku" means more than we gave him credit for.

    Hmmm, not sure how to take some of your tone, but that's part of the many reasons I don't care for this forum too much.

    Heh. You should take my tone as mostly in jest, a contrarian outlook fueled by too much sugar and whiskey. I didn't really mean any of it seriously. More just pointing out how easily it is to express opinions. To be fair, I actually agree that my friends appear to do better as the Dark Side. I appear to be better with the Light. (I play Luke/Lando typically, and then Vader for the DS.)
    I finally caved and watched the entire CW series and I never once saw Grievous directly deflect laser fire. A non-force user "trained in the Jedi arts" does not give the person the ability to accurately deflect laser fire, only using the force can do that.

    Hrm, I thought that as well but I could have Sworn someone posted a video here of him doing it because I recall being cross about that. I thought to myself I would have to consider the possibility that Grievous DID have some small ability with the Force. But yes, I agree, if he's not Force Sensitive, I don't think Grievous should be able to block blaster fire at all, canonically. However, if he can't in the game, he's absolute toast and might quickly become the very worst villain.

  • You got two guys that are built like a tank that deal and can take tremendous damage (Darth Vader and Grievous), characters who can fly and have myriad abilities, all the immobilizing effects, and still #1 OP: Palpatine. If he couldn't float up and down (which besides being ridiculous is completely non-canon in both movie and animated series) then it would be more fair. Also Grievous should not be able to deflect laser fire, as he does not have the Jedi abilities/reflexes to do so (and please don't suggest his "cybernetic implants" could do that). The best character on the light side is Rey who has balanced abilities; everyone else is an average joe trying to make their way in the universe. Advantage: Dark Side (again).

    /shrug. You got three guys that are built with speed that can tap one button and send any number of villains over the ledge to their deaths regardless of how many hit points they have (Luke, Yoda, Kenobi, though Han and Chewie can do it too), characters who can auto-aim and have myriad abilities, just as many if not more immobilizing effects, and still #1 OP: Han. If he couldn't knock any character down by throwing Detonite behind them and nuking them from behind while they attempt to dodge or block his shots (which besides being ridiculous is completely non-canon in both movie and animated series, okay, he hit one guy with a satchel that he didn't detonate.) then it would be more fair. Also, Chewie should not be able to throw a stun grenade, as he has never been shown to do that either. The best character on the dark side is Kylo who has balanced abilities; everyone else is an average joe trying to make their way to galactic domination. Advantage: People who state their opinions like they were facts.

    These are all just opinions. I've gone 10-0 as Light Side. I've been rolled 0-10. Usually the score is somewhere in between. Han and Lando will straight murder you if you let them. Luke is a **** on ledges. Finn can highscore because people seem to ignore him even though he's killing them over and over, doesn't make him OP'd.

    To be fair, I totally agree with you on Grievous. He Shouldn't be able to block blaster fire. I agree that Force Trained can do it because they use precognition to know where the bolt is headed and put the saber there first. However, he's shown doing it multiple times in the show so..... /shrug again. I tell myself that the line "I have been trained in your Jedi Arts by Count Dooku" means more than we gave him credit for.

    finally caved and watched the entire CW series and I never once saw Grievous directly deflect laser fire. A non-force user "trained in the Jedi arts" does not give the person the ability to accurately deflect laser fire, only using the force can do that.

    He doesn't. He deflects them away from him, but not back at him, and has very limited stamina.
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  • Chewie was the LS crutch, and they nerfed him. What did people expect to happen?
  • Chewie was the LS crutch, and they nerfed him. What did people expect to happen?

    They didn't nerf him they balanced him. He's fine in HvV now
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    well most public matches are full of trash tier players.
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  • unit900000 wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    well most public matches are full of trash tier players.

    This going against a whole team of pro's open eyes
  • The funny thing is that the DS being more powerful than the LS is only an issue about 5% of the time. Here are the problems the other 95% of the time:

    1. AFKers
    2. Map exploits
    3. Glitches and lag
    4. Broken abilities
    5. Players quitting
    6. Targets running away
    7. Players committing suicide by respawn to avoid you getting a kill
    8. Clans vs randoms
    9. Rambo teammates running into groups of enemies by themselves when they're the target
    10. Players quitting leading to landslide matches
    11. 8 characters facing off all equipped with stuns making it an unplayable stunfest.

    If you're lucky to not have any of that happening in your match, then yeah, DS is too powerful.
  • Careful OP, what you speak is heresy. There are people here who unironically think Freeze is fine and it's balanced for Vader to take on multiple heroes.

    Just work together as light side haha like really haha it's easy lmao
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  • Atreus213 wrote: »
    Careful OP, what you speak is heresy. There are people here who unironically think Freeze is fine and it's balanced for Vader to take on multiple heroes.

    Just work together as light side haha like really haha it's easy lmao

    This is actually one of the best posts I've ever seen here. Thank you.
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  • There is no biased maps for LS except naboo,bespin,and jabbas palace. DS are good any other map. Its a challenge to win as LS in a "competitive" pov.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.
  • It is fun to read these forums, it is like Star Wars story itself, Dark Side is growing larger in every update, Rebellion must rise to defend this injustice. I dont mind at all, it is more like Star Wars canon, Dark Side must be stronger. But I agree that lightside has been nerfed enough, buff it please, though dont nerf Dark Side it isnt right.
  • MC_XIX
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    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.

    On the contrary, I try to be equally proficient with every hero and villain. I wouldn't say I'm really better with blasters, but I get better scores with blasters because they are simply stronger than sabers.

    I agree that the DS has slightly better sabers overall, but only because Vader and Grievous are monsters. Kylo and Maul are a joke. The order of sabers in HvV for me as of last update is:

    1. Darth Vader
    2. General Grievous
    3. Rey
    4. Yoda
    5. Obi Wan
    6. Luke
    7. Kylo Ren
    8. Darth Maul

    The DS has the top 2 sabers, but also the bottom 2 IMO. So to me, it's fairly balanced in that respect. Now I'm all for a LS saber buff so that their heroes can match Vader, but Maul and Kylo should also be buffed so that they're not more useless than they already are. Maul in particular is awful in HvV. He has no defence whatsoever.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.

    On the contrary, I try to be equally proficient with every hero and villain. I wouldn't say I'm really better with blasters, but I get better scores with blasters because they are simply stronger than sabers.

    I agree that the DS has slightly better sabers overall, but only because Vader and Grievous are monsters. Kylo and Maul are a joke. The order of sabers in HvV for me as of last update is:

    1. Darth Vader
    2. General Grievous
    3. Rey
    4. Yoda
    5. Obi Wan
    6. Luke
    7. Kylo Ren
    8. Darth Maul

    The DS has the top 2 sabers, but also the bottom 2 IMO. So to me, it's fairly balanced in that respect. Now I'm all for a LS saber buff so that their heroes can match Vader, but Maul and Kylo should also be buffed so that they're not more useless than they already are. Maul in particular is awful in HvV. He has no defence whatsoever.

    Are you gonna take me up on the offer?? I still want you to see how your opinion changes of balance.
  • @MC_XIX

    Hmm, I think Obi is bottom trash in HvV far as saber goes.

    For Darth Maul, if you speak of saber vs saber, sure he isn't up to snuff in a 1v1, but he is amazing vs blaster heroes and amazing in group battle.

    Kylo is number 7ish if Vader, GG, and Maul are also on the field, but put 1 baster with Kylo, he quickly is number 2 behind Vader.
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  • MC_XIX
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    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.

    On the contrary, I try to be equally proficient with every hero and villain. I wouldn't say I'm really better with blasters, but I get better scores with blasters because they are simply stronger than sabers.

    I agree that the DS has slightly better sabers overall, but only because Vader and Grievous are monsters. Kylo and Maul are a joke. The order of sabers in HvV for me as of last update is:

    1. Darth Vader
    2. General Grievous
    3. Rey
    4. Yoda
    5. Obi Wan
    6. Luke
    7. Kylo Ren
    8. Darth Maul

    The DS has the top 2 sabers, but also the bottom 2 IMO. So to me, it's fairly balanced in that respect. Now I'm all for a LS saber buff so that their heroes can match Vader, but Maul and Kylo should also be buffed so that they're not more useless than they already are. Maul in particular is awful in HvV. He has no defence whatsoever.

    Are you gonna take me up on the offer?? I still want you to see how your opinion changes of balance.

    Private matches won't change my opinion. I judge the game based on every aspect. HvV, GA, even HS. Maybe you could convince me that the DS is slightly stronger in HvV, but the LS is better at winning GA matches because of Yoda, Finn and Rey, so nerfing the DS or buffing the LS will unbalance that mode. We can't change characters based solely on their strength in HvV because GA is the most popular mode and will always come first when any changes are made to characters.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.

    On the contrary, I try to be equally proficient with every hero and villain. I wouldn't say I'm really better with blasters, but I get better scores with blasters because they are simply stronger than sabers.

    I agree that the DS has slightly better sabers overall, but only because Vader and Grievous are monsters. Kylo and Maul are a joke. The order of sabers in HvV for me as of last update is:

    1. Darth Vader
    2. General Grievous
    3. Rey
    4. Yoda
    5. Obi Wan
    6. Luke
    7. Kylo Ren
    8. Darth Maul

    The DS has the top 2 sabers, but also the bottom 2 IMO. So to me, it's fairly balanced in that respect. Now I'm all for a LS saber buff so that their heroes can match Vader, but Maul and Kylo should also be buffed so that they're not more useless than they already are. Maul in particular is awful in HvV. He has no defence whatsoever.

    Are you gonna take me up on the offer?? I still want you to see how your opinion changes of balance.

    Private matches won't change my opinion. I judge the game based on every aspect. HvV, GA, even HS. Maybe you could convince me that the DS is slightly stronger in HvV, but the LS is better at winning GA matches because of Yoda, Finn and Rey, so nerfing the DS or buffing the LS will unbalance that mode. We can't change characters based solely on their strength in HvV because GA is the most popular mode and will always come first when any changes are made to characters.

    This game doesn’t have private matches. I’m saying play with us.
  • MC_XIX
    2030 posts Member
    @MC_XIX

    Hmm, I think Obi is bottom trash in HvV far as saber goes.

    For Darth Maul, if you speak of saber vs saber, sure he isn't up to snuff in a 1v1, but he is amazing vs blaster heroes and amazing in group battle.

    Kylo is number 7ish if Vader, GG, and Maul are also on the field, but put 1 baster with Kylo, he quickly is number 2 behind Vader.

    I agree Obi Wan isn't great, but his amazing regeneration and high damage give him the edge over Kylo and Maul, and his blocking stamina allows him to hold Vader off for quite a while.

    I've also found he deflects blaster bolts super accurately, which I've used against Phasma and Iden with great success :smile:

    I quite like Maul vs blasters, but again having no block hurts him. Sometimes a block is a life saver against Han and Lando, and Leia's E-11.

    Hopefully Kylo's Freeze will be fixed soon. It needs a 2 second duration and should release the hero after they take 200 damage.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.

    On the contrary, I try to be equally proficient with every hero and villain. I wouldn't say I'm really better with blasters, but I get better scores with blasters because they are simply stronger than sabers.

    I agree that the DS has slightly better sabers overall, but only because Vader and Grievous are monsters. Kylo and Maul are a joke. The order of sabers in HvV for me as of last update is:

    1. Darth Vader
    2. General Grievous
    3. Rey
    4. Yoda
    5. Obi Wan
    6. Luke
    7. Kylo Ren
    8. Darth Maul

    The DS has the top 2 sabers, but also the bottom 2 IMO. So to me, it's fairly balanced in that respect. Now I'm all for a LS saber buff so that their heroes can match Vader, but Maul and Kylo should also be buffed so that they're not more useless than they already are. Maul in particular is awful in HvV. He has no defence whatsoever.

    Maul would beat Yoda 1v1. Kylo would beat Obi Wan and Luke 1v1 as well.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.

    On the contrary, I try to be equally proficient with every hero and villain. I wouldn't say I'm really better with blasters, but I get better scores with blasters because they are simply stronger than sabers.

    I agree that the DS has slightly better sabers overall, but only because Vader and Grievous are monsters. Kylo and Maul are a joke. The order of sabers in HvV for me as of last update is:

    1. Darth Vader
    2. General Grievous
    3. Rey
    4. Yoda
    5. Obi Wan
    6. Luke
    7. Kylo Ren
    8. Darth Maul

    The DS has the top 2 sabers, but also the bottom 2 IMO. So to me, it's fairly balanced in that respect. Now I'm all for a LS saber buff so that their heroes can match Vader, but Maul and Kylo should also be buffed so that they're not more useless than they already are. Maul in particular is awful in HvV. He has no defence whatsoever.

    Maul would beat Yoda 1v1. Kylo would beat Obi Wan and Luke 1v1 as well.
    Gotta disagree with all three of those.
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  • @MyLittleGreenFriend Yoda is so much better than he’s given credit for. Kylo doesn’t beat Luke or Obi Wan in a 1v1.
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    edited December 2018
    Kylo only wins if Bloodlust is working. Or the Luke/Obi are a bit less skilled. OR a lucky stagger.
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  • Dash
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    Saber wise we’re definitely gonna have different opinions etc. Like we all know well that I Prefer Luke over all other LS choices. And now, IF I’m not on Luke, I actually use Obi in his current state. It comes down to preference.

    But as for group make up/meta, 100% would Not pick Obi over Luke or Yoda. Not in his current state that is. And I’m real good on Obi too. Still won’t if given the solid choice for an HVV match.

    Right now, I’m of the mind set that I will take breaks between hero releases, not only because I want to cool down a bit, not even for the fact I have to do a lot of school work/studying for some career changes I’m doing soon, but because of the saber combat change that’s coming in the future. I simply want to wait and see how it deploys, how it’s received a week after it’s deployment, then go from there.

    Just my two cents.

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    Don't worry he'll bring balance to the game

    More likely he’ll be just as useless as Obi Wan.

    Find myself carrying games as Obi Wan and I play this game too frequently
  • lerodemmy wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.

    On the contrary, I try to be equally proficient with every hero and villain. I wouldn't say I'm really better with blasters, but I get better scores with blasters because they are simply stronger than sabers.

    I agree that the DS has slightly better sabers overall, but only because Vader and Grievous are monsters. Kylo and Maul are a joke. The order of sabers in HvV for me as of last update is:

    1. Darth Vader
    2. General Grievous
    3. Rey
    4. Yoda
    5. Obi Wan
    6. Luke
    7. Kylo Ren
    8. Darth Maul

    The DS has the top 2 sabers, but also the bottom 2 IMO. So to me, it's fairly balanced in that respect. Now I'm all for a LS saber buff so that their heroes can match Vader, but Maul and Kylo should also be buffed so that they're not more useless than they already are. Maul in particular is awful in HvV. He has no defence whatsoever.

    Maul would beat Yoda 1v1. Kylo would beat Obi Wan and Luke 1v1 as well.
    Gotta disagree with all three of those.
    Landeaux2 wrote: »
    @MyLittleGreenFriend Yoda is so much better than he’s given credit for. Kylo doesn’t beat Luke or Obi Wan in a 1v1.
    Kylo only wins if Bloodlust is working. Or the Luke/Obi are a bit less skilled. OR a lucky stagger.

    If Bloodlust works, Kylo will take 70% of Luke/Obi's health. From there it's an easy win. Yoda is the only Jedi who can't counter a spamming Maul.
  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.

    On the contrary, I try to be equally proficient with every hero and villain. I wouldn't say I'm really better with blasters, but I get better scores with blasters because they are simply stronger than sabers.

    I agree that the DS has slightly better sabers overall, but only because Vader and Grievous are monsters. Kylo and Maul are a joke. The order of sabers in HvV for me as of last update is:

    1. Darth Vader
    2. General Grievous
    3. Rey
    4. Yoda
    5. Obi Wan
    6. Luke
    7. Kylo Ren
    8. Darth Maul

    The DS has the top 2 sabers, but also the bottom 2 IMO. So to me, it's fairly balanced in that respect. Now I'm all for a LS saber buff so that their heroes can match Vader, but Maul and Kylo should also be buffed so that they're not more useless than they already are. Maul in particular is awful in HvV. He has no defence whatsoever.

    Maul would beat Yoda 1v1. Kylo would beat Obi Wan and Luke 1v1 as well.

    Maul would get destroyed in a 1v1 with Yoda matter of fact most villains would hes one of the best 1v1 heroes in the game. Kylo can beat luke for sure but Obi has high health regen and high saber damage so im not sure.
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  • MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    MC_XIX wrote: »
    In my experience, a LS team buffed by Yoda and/or Finn is more than a match for the DS. Their health buffs give the LS a large advantage. Some of the DS characters have their own health buffs to counter this but it's often not enough when you have Han and Lando running around with 1000hp.

    The DS has better lightsaber characters (despite Maul and Kylo both being terrible in HvV, Vader and Grievous are incredible) and the LS has better blasters.

    Right now, the DS wins more often because its villains are better at running away as the target than the LS heroes. That's the sad truth.

    Spoken like someone who's never done a private match smh. The darkside wins because they're that much better not because they run. Better cc & damage out put,

    I've never done a private match because I'm not interested in those. I play public matches, mostly by myself, and I've found I win more matches as the LS. Mostly because I use Han and Lando quite a lot, or buff my teammates with Yoda.

    The main reason why I sometimes lose to the DS is because Boba and Maul run away and are very often tricky to hunt down with Han or Lando.

    That’s probably because you’re better with blaster heroes than saber heroes. For saber players such as me and @lerodemmy though, the DS has much better saber users.

    On the contrary, I try to be equally proficient with every hero and villain. I wouldn't say I'm really better with blasters, but I get better scores with blasters because they are simply stronger than sabers.

    I agree that the DS has slightly better sabers overall, but only because Vader and Grievous are monsters. Kylo and Maul are a joke. The order of sabers in HvV for me as of last update is:

    1. Darth Vader
    2. General Grievous
    3. Rey
    4. Yoda
    5. Obi Wan
    6. Luke
    7. Kylo Ren
    8. Darth Maul

    The DS has the top 2 sabers, but also the bottom 2 IMO. So to me, it's fairly balanced in that respect. Now I'm all for a LS saber buff so that their heroes can match Vader, but Maul and Kylo should also be buffed so that they're not more useless than they already are. Maul in particular is awful in HvV. He has no defence whatsoever.

    Lmao Maul and Kylo dont need buffs both are good in both GA and HvV.
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  • Landeaux2
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