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I Want 3 Rolls or Faster Roll Regen

It’s a pretty simple request, let me know if you think rolling/maneuvering could be snappier too.

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  • Ever since they first nerfed roll it was good, cant remember if it was 3 but it definitely had a faster regen. Then they decided to nerf it again which made blaster heroes pretty much ineffective once saber heroes closed in. And its pretty much been set that way now.

    I mean if you dont saber spam you could hit someone after they've completed a roll back then and still now. But in no way can you escape saber heroes by running/rolling and damn sure cant run away from the emperor.
  • Trooper rolls need looking at not heroes.
  • Varying degrees of cooldown would be nice, or as a star card... but two is fine as is.
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  • I wish people would stop asking for more training wheels for infantry.

    Saber heroes need to be fixed first. They can't damage objectives anymore, their swings have the same strength as a trooper melee (only an infantry melee is so bugged it's a OHK), their AOE abilities are unreliable and nearly every attack they have can be avoided by spamming roll.

    My wishlist includes:

    -Fixing all of the bugs with saber heroes
    -Buff the HOK from reinforcements back up to what the HOK is for killing a hero
    -Properly balancing Yoda and Finn's health buffs
    -Separating saber damage output between heroes and non-heroes.
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  • Defbored
    1250 posts Member
    The rolls are fine.
  • How about the developers take away the invincibility frames from the troopers,

    then you can have all the rolls you want.

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    Once/if they get rid of melee stun locking then they really should consider reducing the invincibility frames on rolling. It's nuts that a force push or lightsaber is reliably and repeatably negated by rolling (but is somewhat necessary due to the annoying melee flinch.)
  • Idk about other characters but I feel Maul should have more rolls since he doesn't have a block.
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  • NomiSunstrider
    2345 posts Member
    edited January 3
    TastyNoob wrote: »
    Then they decided to nerf it again which made blaster heroes pretty much ineffective once saber heroes closed in. And its pretty much been set that way now.


    That's the idea
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  • Thanks for comments all. The invinciblity frames are bizarre and I think should only apply to gun heroes or those who cannot block maybe.

    The game was initially slated to be the battlefield of Star Wars in some ways, and it just feels like the sharpness and effectiveness of the movement and gunplay, have been totally wiped out due to nerfs. Much of the combat happens close up now which means more of these noobs running around with glow stick bats.

    2 roles is enough to beat one person only before being stamina drained if you’re an active player who is not camping. Getting shot or beat down by the person trying to team kill you is inevitable at the moment and makes for too many 1 for 1 trades as troopers IMO. All the effective weapons and fun stuff has been badly nerfed so I’m hoping they can add some cards around stamina management or adding one for another dodge/roll as they have for heroes.

    Also, if you’re a saber hero you should have to rely on skill to make your hits not just your target being unable to get out of the way so you can be the Negan to their Glenn. That’s just poor gameplay and causes people to do all the silly things they do now just to sabatoge a hero streak, which then causes them to trade at best. (Sorry for analogy Devs!!)

    In short, I think movement should be part of your defense against getting team killed and heroes, and could stand some improvement or new cards because it is lousy to be unable to do anything other than jump a little bc you juked the first guy so now his friend gets a free kill. Not good gameplay IMO.

    Thanks for sharing and reading all!
  • How about the developers take away the invincibility frames from the troopers,

    then you can have all the rolls you want.

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    Dude unlimited roles for no invincibility frames? Deal** haha

  • Defbored wrote: »
    The rolls are fine.

    Says the casual filth who supports DICE as they drive BF17 down a cliff.

    I agree with the OP. The combat roll needs improvements. The animation is slow and aim assist is too high against people who combat roll. It's too easy to kill someone when they're using the evasive maneuver. Something needs to change.

    Casual button-mashing saber users need to chill. Infantry play shouldn't suffer because you guys are trash and can't aim. If necessary, the devs can update infantry rolls and keep hero combat rolls the same.

    It's sad y'all spam stuns and still complain. Y'all must have potato aim. Countering blaster heroes is easy on console. Most of the complainers don't play on PC.

    A tear or joy just left my eye...
    Good sir, your post is exactly on point. Thanks for posting!

  • bfloo
    14992 posts Member
    Nicky2face wrote: »
    I want a girlfriend made of chocolate that lives in a castle made of money

    Me too!
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  • Defbored
    1250 posts Member
    Defbored wrote: »
    The rolls are fine.

    Says the casual filth who supports DICE as they drive BF17 down a cliff.

    I agree with the OP. The combat roll needs improvements. The animation is slow and aim assist is too high against people who combat roll. It's too easy to kill someone when they're using the evasive maneuver. Something needs to change.

    Casual button-mashing saber users need to chill. Infantry play shouldn't suffer because you guys are trash and can't aim. If necessary, the devs can update infantry rolls and keep hero combat rolls the same.

    It's sad y'all spam stuns and still complain. Y'all must have potato aim. Countering blaster heroes is easy on console. Most of the complainers don't play on PC.

    Casual filth? Man, tone it down some.
  • Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    The rolls are fine.

    Says the casual filth who supports DICE as they drive BF17 down a cliff.

    I agree with the OP. The combat roll needs improvements. The animation is slow and aim assist is too high against people who combat roll. It's too easy to kill someone when they're using the evasive maneuver. Something needs to change.

    Casual button-mashing saber users need to chill. Infantry play shouldn't suffer because you guys are trash and can't aim. If necessary, the devs can update infantry rolls and keep hero combat rolls the same.

    It's sad y'all spam stuns and still complain. Y'all must have potato aim. Countering blaster heroes is easy on console. Most of the complainers don't play on PC.

    Casual filth? Man, tone it down some.

    Nah fam. You spend your days insulting anyone who doesn't suck-up to the devs. Don't dish it if you can't take it. You're a scrub.

    I'm not your fam.
    I've never called anyone filth.
  • How about the developers take away the invincibility frames from the troopers,

    then you can have all the rolls you want.

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    Dude unlimited roles for no invincibility frames? Deal** haha

    Deal...here you go

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    These rolls don’t have I-frames. It would be troublesome to eat if they did.
  • Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    The rolls are fine.

    Says the casual filth who supports DICE as they drive BF17 down a cliff.

    I agree with the OP. The combat roll needs improvements. The animation is slow and aim assist is too high against people who combat roll. It's too easy to kill someone when they're using the evasive maneuver. Something needs to change.

    Casual button-mashing saber users need to chill. Infantry play shouldn't suffer because you guys are trash and can't aim. If necessary, the devs can update infantry rolls and keep hero combat rolls the same.

    It's sad y'all spam stuns and still complain. Y'all must have potato aim. Countering blaster heroes is easy on console. Most of the complainers don't play on PC.

    Casual filth? Man, tone it down some.

    Nah fam. You spend your days insulting anyone who doesn't suck-up to the devs. Don't dish it if you can't take it. You're a scrub.

    I'm not your fam.
    I've never called anyone filth.

    Aight, fam.
    My name is Bob

  • Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    The rolls are fine.

    Says the casual filth who supports DICE as they drive BF17 down a cliff.

    I agree with the OP. The combat roll needs improvements. The animation is slow and aim assist is too high against people who combat roll. It's too easy to kill someone when they're using the evasive maneuver. Something needs to change.

    Casual button-mashing saber users need to chill. Infantry play shouldn't suffer because you guys are trash and can't aim. If necessary, the devs can update infantry rolls and keep hero combat rolls the same.

    It's sad y'all spam stuns and still complain. Y'all must have potato aim. Countering blaster heroes is easy on console. Most of the complainers don't play on PC.

    Casual filth? Man, tone it down some.

    Nah fam. You spend your days insulting anyone who doesn't suck-up to the devs. Don't dish it if you can't take it. You're a scrub.

    I'm not your fam.
    I've never called anyone filth.

    Aight, fam.

    I just realized you're trolling me in two different threads. Obsessed much?
  • Group hug, @Defbored? We need to come together as a family. Mom and dad aren't happy with the strife. We are family after all
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  • Hmm there's a roll limit In HvV?
  • Finest_Banana
    1781 posts Member
    edited January 3
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    The rolls are fine.

    Says the casual filth who supports DICE as they drive BF17 down a cliff.

    I agree with the OP. The combat roll needs improvements. The animation is slow and aim assist is too high against people who combat roll. It's too easy to kill someone when they're using the evasive maneuver. Something needs to change.

    Casual button-mashing saber users need to chill. Infantry play shouldn't suffer because you guys are trash and can't aim. If necessary, the devs can update infantry rolls and keep hero combat rolls the same.

    It's sad y'all spam stuns and still complain. Y'all must have potato aim. Countering blaster heroes is easy on console. Most of the complainers don't play on PC.

    Casual filth? Man, tone it down some.

    Nah fam. You spend your days insulting anyone who doesn't suck-up to the devs. Don't dish it if you can't take it. You're a scrub.

    I'm not your fam.
    I've never called anyone filth.

    Aight, fam.

    I just realized you're trolling me in two different threads. Obsessed much?

    Family is forever, Def. Seeing my brother shill is difficult to handle. Watching you get thrashed was the last straw. I can't take being related to a shill and a scrub :disappointed:
    My name is Bob

  • Sure. Give em unlimited rolls with no regen time. But make them unable to evade force powers.


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  • Zyder
    374 posts Member
    Nope, rolls are fine. That is untouchable.
  • Zyder wrote: »
    Nope, rolls are fine. That is untouchable.

    Roles are not fine IMO because they make players too vulnerable to team killing from being unable to escape after fighting a single person and the weapons aren’t nearly lethal enough to counter this aspect. You kill one, then get killed immediately if you aren’t at mid to long range from them or spamming vanguard (seperate topic tho).

    And just gonna say it for everyone, I don’t think troopers should just be a free kill for glow stick swingers, simply because they are unable to evade. Saber characters should take skill and finesse IMO - I main Darth Maul even before health back regen and always do pretty well and have a blast using his agility.

    -end rant

    Thanks for posting all!
  • Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    The rolls are fine.

    Says the casual filth who supports DICE as they drive BF17 down a cliff.

    I agree with the OP. The combat roll needs improvements. The animation is slow and aim assist is too high against people who combat roll. It's too easy to kill someone when they're using the evasive maneuver. Something needs to change.

    Casual button-mashing saber users need to chill. Infantry play shouldn't suffer because you guys are trash and can't aim. If necessary, the devs can update infantry rolls and keep hero combat rolls the same.

    It's sad y'all spam stuns and still complain. Y'all must have potato aim. Countering blaster heroes is easy on console. Most of the complainers don't play on PC.

    Casual filth? Man, tone it down some.

    Nah fam. You spend your days insulting anyone who doesn't suck-up to the devs. Don't dish it if you can't take it. You're a scrub.

    I'm not your fam.
    I've never called anyone filth.

    Aight, fam.

    I just realized you're trolling me in two different threads. Obsessed much?

    Family is forever, Def. Seeing my brother shill is difficult to handle. Watching you get thrashed was the last straw. I can't take being related to a shill and a scrub :disappointed:

    Well, here at the mental asylum we realized that you must be our escaped inmate.
    You guys are gonna make me rich......
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  • I've said this since the very first dodge/roll nerf.

    It makes absolutely no sense that you need to time dodges as a blaster hero all the while saber users dont have to do anything but swing spam. They catered to bads and that's what we're stuck with.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    The rolls are fine.

    Says the casual filth who supports DICE as they drive BF17 down a cliff.

    I agree with the OP. The combat roll needs improvements. The animation is slow and aim assist is too high against people who combat roll. It's too easy to kill someone when they're using the evasive maneuver. Something needs to change.

    Casual button-mashing saber users need to chill. Infantry play shouldn't suffer because you guys are trash and can't aim. If necessary, the devs can update infantry rolls and keep hero combat rolls the same.

    It's sad y'all spam stuns and still complain. Y'all must have potato aim. Countering blaster heroes is easy on console. Most of the complainers don't play on PC.

    Casual filth? Man, tone it down some.

    Nah fam. You spend your days insulting anyone who doesn't suck-up to the devs. Don't dish it if you can't take it. You're a scrub.

    I'm not your fam.
    I've never called anyone filth.

    Aight, fam.

    I just realized you're trolling me in two different threads. Obsessed much?

    Family is forever, Def. Seeing my brother shill is difficult to handle. Watching you get thrashed was the last straw. I can't take being related to a shill and a scrub :disappointed:

    Well, here at the mental asylum we realized that you must be our escaped inmate.

    So The Alt Asylum isn’t just a myth? :o
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  • KresusFIN
    2716 posts Member
    edited January 4
    It was fine at launch. People Saber-mains under the delusion that a glowstick should solve all problems just sucked.
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    Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
    Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
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    The fact is that if you're running it's because you suck, and the game shouldn't pander to players who suck.

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  • KresusFIN wrote: »
    It was fine at launch. People Saber-mains under the delusion that a glowstick should solve all problems just sucked.

    This ^
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  • I've said this since the very first dodge/roll nerf.

    It makes absolutely no sense that you need to time dodges as a blaster hero all the while saber users dont have to do anything but swing spam. They catered to bads and that's what we're stuck with.

    100%. Saber button-mashing noobs threw a fit and the devs capitulated.
    My name is Bob

  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    The rolls are fine.

    Says the casual filth who supports DICE as they drive BF17 down a cliff.

    I agree with the OP. The combat roll needs improvements. The animation is slow and aim assist is too high against people who combat roll. It's too easy to kill someone when they're using the evasive maneuver. Something needs to change.

    Casual button-mashing saber users need to chill. Infantry play shouldn't suffer because you guys are trash and can't aim. If necessary, the devs can update infantry rolls and keep hero combat rolls the same.

    It's sad y'all spam stuns and still complain. Y'all must have potato aim. Countering blaster heroes is easy on console. Most of the complainers don't play on PC.

    Casual filth? Man, tone it down some.

    Nah fam. You spend your days insulting anyone who doesn't suck-up to the devs. Don't dish it if you can't take it. You're a scrub.

    I'm not your fam.
    I've never called anyone filth.

    Aight, fam.

    I just realized you're trolling me in two different threads. Obsessed much?

    Family is forever, Def. Seeing my brother shill is difficult to handle. Watching you get thrashed was the last straw. I can't take being related to a shill and a scrub :disappointed:

    Well, here at the mental asylum we realized that you must be our escaped inmate.

    I was messing around re: the fam thing.

    I stick by my point. Things were fine at launch. Casual button-mashers expect a freebie kill anytime they're using a lightsaber within 100m of the enemy. That's not how it should work.
    My name is Bob

  • I've said this since the very first dodge/roll nerf.

    It makes absolutely no sense that you need to time dodges as a blaster hero all the while saber users dont have to do anything but swing spam. They catered to bads and that's what we're stuck with.
    Couldn’t have said it better myself, friend.

  • Yeah, good idea, why just don't give them 10 rolls?
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